I had my experience chasing a guy who know the scene but not into it. My first visit, i barely talk to him but visited the beach area where he work as chair attendance few times.
Second visits a year or so later, i managed to break the ice, with the help of a host bar boy, who also agree with me that the guy is hot lol. He volunteer to be my wingman, since the guy i have hots for are from the same country as he is. Long story short, we managed to bring him to dinner and gogo bar visits lol. After that, i also arrange a movie night, this time only two of us.
But it was still very innocent, and i really dont know how to move further hahaha. Im afraid if i want to do more, he refuse and subsequent meeting will be awkward.