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    BL8gPt reacted to DivineMadman in Basics for BKK, please   
    I don't think they do.  The few (couple) of times that I have ended up with a Muslim guy was from Dreamboys, but hardly a statistically valid sample.  
     
    I haven't come across this.  
    There are several massage shops that send out Thai language Line blasts or updates and they use "gay" with the same sense as we do.  For example, VCK - will say who is "" เกย์" ("gay") and who is "ชายแท้" ("chaai-táe"="real man"=straight).  They will also say if someone is top only, does it all, or does absolutely everything. And these gay guys are not ladyboys or feminine. 
    There are other shops that will identify guys as G or M for "gay" or "man=straight" , so you will see GT or GT&B or MT or the rare elusive (but prized) MT&B.  Crowns Club is another that identifies guys as "" เกย์" ("gay") or  "ชายแท้" ("real man").  And the list goes on and on.  
    Also, in my experience just in conversations with local guys there is no direct link between "gay" and ladyboy.  We freely use "gay" in the "gay Thailand" sense.  To confirm my understanding, over breakfast I asked a young lad from Laos if "gay" would really make people think katoey, and he thought not, but, again, not a statistically valid sample.  (Over breakfast = another of those uninvited L/Ts.  )
    It is true that most of the gay gogo bars have a drag element in the show.  But you find that in gay bars in NYC and Atlanta and elsewhere.  Go figure.
    At bars, I always ask guys if they are "gay" ("เกย์"), and at massage shops if I'm selecting from a lineup or photos I always first just tell the manager it has to someone "gay."  Again, no hint of ladyboy.  Way back I used to say I didn't want straight/top only - because that's all I cared about - but this way of asking-by-exclusion doesn't work as well as just saying gay.  Actually I say I want someone "gay does everything" ("เกย์งานครบ ได้หมด").  Can't go wrong with that.
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    BL8gPt reacted to macaroni21 in Basics for BKK, please   
    Others have addressed Q1.
    Regarding Q2, the Patpong Soi 2 bars will have full exposure with engorged appendages at some or several points in their shows. Most of the time, the performers will come down from the stage and circulate amongst the audience for a few seconds' grope and a 100-baht tip. You can say "No, thank you" if you think 100-baht (3€) is ridiculous for a very brief handling of a sausage tied up in rubber. If you want something more aesthetic rather than crude (erotic is probably too much to ask for) Moonlight's and Jupiter's shows might fit the bill, but there will be some show items when drag lip-sync performers take centre-stage.
    Two bits more of explanation. Why do I say erotic is probably too much to ask for? Well, the performers are mostly straight. They may do nudity, even as a group, but touching another straight performer on stage in a truly erotic, sensual way is either beyond their instincts or inclination. They just don't do or maybe don't understand homo-erotic. How many of us would really know/want to do erotic with a woman even in a show act? Why can't they be trained? Bar owners can't really be bothered, especially since the boys move from bar to bar. Anyway, bar owners are policemen's wives (at least according to received wisdom), not show directors. Cold mechanic may be the best one can get.
    Second bit of explanation: I noticed you used the word "gay" in Q2 in a certain way. Avoid the use of this word (as you understand it) in Thailand. Thais tend to understand "gay" in a different way. They conflate it with katoey and cross-dressing. So if you use "gay" in your way, you will likely meet with cultural misunderstanding. E.g. if you ask to be shown to a "gay show", you will get drag.
    Regarding your Q3, ah, I see. You want homo sex 24/7  Unfortunately, not much to do in the day, in this respect. There are possibilities in the afternoon, say, after 3pm, in the saunas or massage parlours.
    But do give the ping-pong and shoot-darts show a try. I wasn't entirely joking. They're eye-openers and special Thai treats. 
    I'm not sure where your Q4 is coming from, but I somehow have the sense that you're thinking Thais are mainly Muslim and thus were concerned that you can't find uncut boys in Bangkok? Pardon me if I have misunderstood.
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    BL8gPt reacted to Moses in Gay Companions and Tour Guides in Thailand   
    Never been in Sahara. Is Sahara such green as background behind our new guide?
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    BL8gPt reacted to Moses in Gay Companions and Tour Guides in Thailand   
    A little bit more "eye-candy"  Tie  - guide from Siamroads.com Works on Phuket.

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    BL8gPt reacted to vinapu in Basics for BKK, please   
    In Bangkok off fee will be 400-500 depending on the bar
    drink 350-500 , boy drink the same range  although in some bars buy drink may  be slightly cheaper or more expensive  ( 20-40 baht difference either way )
    short time  from 1500 , some guys may accept less but they may be  from  apps or beer bars  in soi 4 and Hot male outside in Patpong 2 rather than go-go bars
    long time is subject to double inflation , it looks less guys are willing to do it and if they do, 2500 -3000 seems to be bottom and more popular or better  built guys may  not even  start that " low ". Again boys from apps may be less demanding. 
    Hunting for guy matching your specification is 80% of fun, other 20% you will have in your room
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    BL8gPt reacted to macaroni21 in Basics for BKK, please   
    Let me try to help with some of your questions.
    What/whom to avoid? Touts, touts and touts. They'll make a beeline for you once you look like a newbie. Mostly found in the Silom, Surawong and Patpong areas, they'll want to show you where the bars are, etc. Don't let them. Don't even answer their questions or make eye contact. Pretend that the only language you speak is Belorussian or Fulani and cannot understand a word of what they're saying. Keep walking on.The bars and massage places are not hard to find by yourself. Thailand is pretty open about sex and related businesses, and these establishments are not hidden in deep back alleys where tourists would never dream of entering alone and so might need someone to show them the way. They're on the main street! They have bright blinking neon signs.
    I would assume you have some sort of gaydar. Turn it on. Spot the gay guys and see where they're going. Follow.
    How much is an off? It'll vary from one place to another. Just ask the bar captain as to the bar fine and the desired boy about his own charges. They'll be upfront about it (especially the Vietnamese!)
    How much is a tip at the table? I assume you're indicating a situation where you've had a bar boy sit with you for more than 3 minutes but you really don't want him to continue sitting there, or he doesn't want to continue sitting there, so you part ways. 100 baht would be fine, that is in addition to the drink you've bought him (which he might have hardly touched, but that's not the point).
    A quick short visit like you have planned likely means you'll spend nearly all your time in touristy areas. The bars and massage parlours in these areas see mostly tourist patrons*. This means there is no working week to affect the pattern of traffic, so whether you go Saturday, Sunday or Monday won't make much difference.
    *On this note, I'll add that first-time farangs may make the mistake of thinking that the Asian-looking patrons of bars and massage parlours are Thais. While that may be true in some massage parlours, in general the Asians are tourists like you, from other neighbouring countries. Some will outspend the farang by a mile. They are now THAT rich!
    Best shows? It depends whether you're looking for Magicians pulling rabbits out of hats or nude girls spitting darts from their vaginas. Could you be more specific?
    By the way, my blog has a Massage explainer and a Bar explainer that throws a little light on the mysteries of the different kinds of gay bars and massage parlours, plus accounts of my experiences at some places. May give you an idea of how things work (or more often than not, how things fall apart  )
    Take it easy. Enjoy the experience, don't set your hopes on everything turning out perfect. They won't, but they'll be fun eye-openers.
    Anything to do in the day? Since you'll be there over a weekend, you could visit the Chatuchak bazaar (BTS skytrain, Morchit station) on Saturday and Sunday. Or you could marvel at the consumerism in any one of the countless shopping malls around BTS Siam station. Or even make your way, via BTS Saphan Taksin station, and a boat ride, to Icon Siam on the other side of the river. Well, of course, there's the Grand Palace, the Wat Keo, the Wat Arun.... google these up. They will need taxi or Grab. Along the way there you'll also get to experience another Bangkok attraction to write home about: horrendous traffic jams.
    Most of the bars on Patpong soi 2 (Hotmale, Lucky Boys,Dream Boys, Fresh, Screw Boys) and the Banana Boys on SIlom soi 4 will have some lean muscle chaps amongst their off-able crew. Ditto with the selection from Jupiter and Moonlight, though maybe a bit pricier -- these two bars think they are classier.
    Thais, Cambodians, Vietnamese, Lao and Burmese are almost all uncut. In fact, hey, most of the world are uncut 
    Speak English? Keep your hopes low, real low. Consider this, how many farm boys in your country, hustling in the cities, speak Thai?
    Good luck! You'll be fine.
     
     
     
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    BL8gPt reacted to hanan in Boys Yes agogo on Walking street   
    Having a stroll down Walking street on Halloween night I was very surprised to see a big billboard about where soi Diamond starts from Walking street, proclaiming "Boys Yes" and photos of half naked muscular men. If I understand the billboard correctly it is the lady agogobar "Yes" in soi Diamond, one of the small side sois to Walking street, that after 2 am now turns into a boy showbar. 
    One of the many barkers on Walking street with their laminated papers about ping pong shows etc, noticed me looking at the billboard and approached me claiming "Have boy show! 500 baht entry!". I have no idea if he really knew anything about it and I didn't want to talk with him, and the quoted price is most sure very inflated. But maybe I will visit Yes agogo some day to find out what's going on there.
    Or maybe someone here can provide more info?



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    BL8gPt reacted to Travellerdave in ToyBoys   
    I’m in Pattaya just now - arrived yesterday pm  I intend to check out Toyboys tonight. Last night I visited Winner Boys in Sunee, not intending to off due to being rather jaded and tired after 24 hours “on the road”. On my arrival early at 8.15 about 10 boys were on the stage, wearing a variety of underwear and some, with bare feet. Several wore speedos type briefs and I picked one boy with very fetching stripey ones revealing nice buttocks and an impressive bulge in front. He was a 19 year old twink, the type I like, but was not responsive to my attempts to initiate some basic conversation,. I left the Gogo after tipping him to have a walk around to acquaint myself with some Pattaya landscape having not been in town for 6 months and planning to return alone to the hotel for a good sleep.  There seems to be a lot of excavation of roads to install much needed higher capacity drains which no doubt causes even more horrible traffic congestion.
    however I changed my mind and went back to Winner to find only six boys in circulation and a couple sat with customers. On an impulse I offed the stripey boy, who had surprisingly not been taken, and went two-up on a motor bike to the hotel. His performance in bed was good so sex wise my trip has got off to a good start. But his quietness and lack of verbal responsiveness was a little unnerving as was his frequent consulting of his  phone. So I paid him the ST rate and had an excellent sleep, which was the sensible course of action in retrospect.
     
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    BL8gPt reacted to vinapu in Bangkok's suburb gay scene?   
    small fishing village called Pattaya, 1.5 hr by bus from Swampy airport , 
     
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    BL8gPt reacted to Boy69 in Get used to it   
    I guess I am getting older before I was in the room only for sleeping so there was not much purpose to book fancy hotels but now I do less outdoor activities so I do need propper hotels which provides swimming pool and dyning room with breakfast buffet the only options in Jomtien complex is the Zing or the Agate.
    Second thing I noticed in my last trip is that looking for boys become less important but relaxing and enjoying tourist attractions is on first priority so decided at my next trips I will spoil my self with better hotels , regarding to boys I became very picky (don't know why...) and will take one only if he's really stunning so I am taking into consideration that not every day will find one and have sex activity it's fine by me because my main purpose in my upcoming trips is to rest from my stressful work and not finding boys.
    I guess now when I am fifty years old I become more bourgeois tourist.lol.
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    BL8gPt reacted to GoldMember in Trip report Sep-Oct 2019 - Crazy Things At Night   
    Leg 7 - Bangkok - Last chance candy
    Arrived to the Thai capital on Friday for my last 3 nights of this trip. 
    Hotel review - Grande Centre Point Ratchadamri - 3BR Suite(350 USD per night): I booked this hotel for several reasons: it's walking distance from Siam malls which my family will like, it has 2 and 3 br suites which is rare and cheaper than interconnecting rooms, room was massive (180 sqm). This was all true and was perfect for our need. But, other than that, this hotel does not offer anything exceptional than others and for couples/solo I see no benefit on staying there. This place lacks a bit of character. Breakfast is of medium quality. 
    After sending all my family to nap, I visited Prince(#3) again. I have no recollection of that massage which means I enjoyed it but it was not exceptional. What I do remember is the price change. 1h Oil 1100 and minimum tip 1200. I'm almost sure 2 weeks before that both were cheaper. After my family woke up we all went up Mahanakhon building. Inspired by Vinapu, My daughter and I made a replica of his pic there and sent it to him. Very nice place. 
    That weekend was my final weekend and after being in Moonlight two weeks ago and being impressed by the guys there, I had a vision of going there every night and offing a guy. Well, that did not happen LOL. Went that night to Moonlight (#2) to discover that the place is PACKED. Too many people there, guys mainly interested in the girls sitting front row. I appreciated the models there but realized this place is probably more friendly mid-week. From there, went 23:30 to Tawan (#2) with a clear purpose of offing Tiger. Stepped inside, 2 minutes after getting my drink he passes by, sits next to me, and asks me "Are we going together?". I did not want him to think I am that easy to get. So I replied "Hell yeah!" and out we went LOL. I was in Tawan no more than 5 mins. Although I could get him back to my apartment, I prefered taking the room next to Tawan (500THB). Had a intoxicating 1H Muscle Worship session there. I am in love with him. Well, at least in love with his body. Haha. From there some recovery time and off to G.O.D for another night of alcohol and guys. That night I met a nice local guy that I played with in the club. When the club closed I was too tired to carry on with him but out of all the guys I met, this one will probably be the first I'll try to reconnect with next trip. 
    Next day was a typical BKK Saturday for me. Starting with a play space with my daughter at Central World. When napping time had come, I moved to my play space Babylon (#4). That was the visit that Babylon was the most generous to me in terms of guys. And it was an all Asian buffet that afternoon. Night time was dedicated to a guy I met in a previous trip that has become more than just a sex friend so before clubbing we met for drinks at Telephone. I like the atmosphere in that Soi very much. After the bill is paid, we say our goodbyes an I'm off to G.O.D and finish my night there. 
    Vclub7 VCK Cool Space - After a morning at Emporium mall and playspace, I put my daughter to sleep. It's dad's free massage time! Went to VCK Sunday afternoon. I think they have less guys in terms of amount than the Prince. But, every guy I saw there was a pearl in his own category. Reception guy had no idea about my free massage so I asked him to call the manager. After their chat he told me to just go and pick a guy and that I don't need to pay for the room, and that the guy gets his minimum tip from the management before we enter the room. I saw that actually happening. Massage was erotic and fun just as I expected it to be. I like VCK more than Prince in all parameters except location. Gave the guy some more tip for his effort and both of us went our way happily. 
    After some family quality time, they all went to sleep and it was a Sunday night so Maggie Choo was the place to be. Iv'e said that in the past: this is a nice, classy place that attracts high quality crowd every Sunday night. Music is pop shit and drag show is professional and funny. From there a visit to Dreamboys. Show was fun and entertaining. Non of the guys there were my type but I enjoyed the place. Babe from Moonlight was enjoying that show with 2 Japanese girls. 
    This was my last night in BKK so I was willing to be less uptight about curfew time. Entered G.O.D for what has become my favorite night routine in BKK. This time I did not mind going with someone to his room, but of course, the guy I wanted to have fun with did not have a room of his own. Karma is a bitch. After the club closes he suggests we have some fun in a toilet outside. I am hesitant since this is probably illegal in Thailand and I am not in the mood of going to the police station. But, alcohol was in my blood, and I was horny so just repressed that thought and 10 minutes later I left my dignity at a booth in a toilet behind Silom's KFC. Not my finest hour but I will lie if I say I did not enjoy that encounter. 
    Grindr Hookup (#9) - Last day in BKK I already decided that I will have my farewell party at the Prince. After morning time with my family, I took the motortaxi there. On the way a get a Grindr message from a guy that texted me the night before, but it did not work out yesterday. He suggests that I come to his hotel's pool to chill before I leave. I already know that he shares a room with his friend so not a lot can happen there, but I decide to go for it because this guy is hot and this is my last hours having fun in this city. Well the pool was nice but neither of us wanted to enter nor to chill so I find myself, again in a toilet booth. At least this time it was a fancy one, larger and quiet cause the hotel's pool was empty. Yet another great encounter and god bless Grindr. 
    Prince (#4) - from there off to prince for my farewell party. Upon entrance, I see a familiar face, not in the boys section but in the chooser's section. It was the guy I met at G.O.D and wanted to keep in touch with but decided to keep him for my next trip. He was there with another guy, Israeli, which actually used to live 2 buildings next to me and my husband. We had a 3some several years ago. What are the chances for that??  So instead of choosing a guy, the 3 of us have a conversation for about half an hour. I already saw the guy I'm gonna choose and hope that he stays there till we finish this weird and funny reunion. After we finish our chat they suggest we go to his place for some fun the 3 of us. I politely decline saying I'm tired but truth is I was really into the Asian guy and did not want to have what I call a "fake 3some". They left prince without choosing anyone, not sure why, maybe the whole situation embarrassed them. Before leaving, the Asian guy whispered me who I should choose which is exactly the guy I had in mind. Another note before carrying on - I recognized 2 guys behind the glass - Panu from Arena and X from VCK. The guy I chose was Vietnamese named Super. And he was SUPER. Super is both muscular and beautiful with a nice set of tatto's and sexiest one being on his stomach. He is straight but versatile and was able to be fucked well after some preparation. This was my best Prince this trip. It was a lovely farewell party.  
    Well, that is it. After 26 days in the far east it was my time to go back home. Although it may not seem that way, this trip's main attraction was quality time with my daughter. The combination of sex travel with family travel was unique and very intense. It was sometimes harder than might seem from this report and I think only upon returning I realized that I did not sleep, eat or workout well this entire vacation. @vinapu and @anddy were horrified to hear that all I eat is MCd's and room service but this trip, food was just fuel to keep me on going. Maybe next time I'll try to have a more balanced trip. Maybe not LOL. 
    Writing was fun as always and allowed me to relish on some of the memories of my vacation. Hope reading was enjoyable as well, and thanks for all your kind feedback! The clock is ticking on my next trip, and in exactly 2 months my husband and I will be headed to Bangkok as my queen returns to Bangkok's White Party. Will report   
     
    Cheers! 
     

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    BL8gPt reacted to Jasper in Lucky Boys   
    Yes but these boys don’t live in Pattaya.
     
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    BL8gPt reacted to vinapu in Jupiter 2018 is open!   
    it must be religious reason 
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    BL8gPt reacted to macaroni21 in Jupiter 2018 is open!   
    Interesting you said that. I've noticed that too and feel a similar way. There's a subtle difference in looks, which I cannot quite put my finger on. Sometimes it is because I think they have squarer jaws, squarer faces. Then other times, I tell myself I am just imagining it.
    When I was last in Cambodia some years ago thinking my beep ratio (meaning how many guys around me I'd have a second look) would be higher than if I was in Thailand, I found that it was no different. Still in the range of maybe 1 in 200 or 1 in 500!
    In fact, I am halfway through a draft of a ShamelessMack story about a massage boy in Bangkok Massage whom I guessed was Cambodian..... but was not, until.... (well, the story's still being worked on). 
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    BL8gPt reacted to GoldMember in Trip report Sep-Oct 2019 - Crazy Things At Night   
    Leg 6 - Pattaya - Full Love Inn
     
    Arrived again at the commercial sex capital of the world on a Tuesday for 3 nights, this time with my parents. Which on the bright side meant that I am not paying, but at the same time can't host. Stayed again at Centara Grand Mirage with similar experience regarding to that hotel as reviewed in leg 2. Since I'm with my parents, this Pattaya visit I'm less stressed regarding my own safety which means It's time for some questionable decisions!  
    Grindr questionable experience (#1) - We arrived to Centara late so in no time everyone went to sleep and I was out to meet a guy I texted with on Grindr. There were red lights in terms of photos. I could see that they are heavily edited but I gave it a shot as he was near my hotel at a coffee shop. What he failed to mention that he was with his sister. So that was a weird experience meeting a guy that did not look at all like his photos, with his sister. But, to their defense, I must say that the conversation was really nice and interesting and nobody was shocked that after an hour I said I'm tired and left.  
    Grindr Commercial sex (#1) - Arrived back at my room, probably at midnight, to receive a message from a massage guy. I could see that this guy was my type in terms of body but was unsure about the rest. But, it was questionable decisions time and I was horny. 15 minutes later I am in front of Tiffany's show as he suggested since he knows short time rooms near there. This was not my finest hour since this guy, as I suspected, had a nice body but that was it. Anyways, I will admit that it was a fun meet and 1000 THB later I'm back at my room to receive a text from my hotel staff night entertainment that knew I was returning tonight. I was not sure he could meet me that night that is why I didn't wait for him, but I was happy that he texted and could meet. 
    This time I could not host him in my room, and also didn't want to take a cheap short time room. We knew that this night was probably our last night since he was leaving the hotel the night after back to his country since he finished his contract at Centara. He told me his colleague once took a woman to a hotel close by for the night so that is where we went - Blue Boat Hotel. Checked in at 2AM 750 THB a night which we split (I offered to pay it, he insisted we split). Luckily he had his passport on him because they required one. Night was awesome, he had some poppers left from last time so he could be fucked well. I put a clock for 4AM to end our sex session and went back to sleep. He stayed till morning and checked out. This was the last of our 4 nights together. 
    Grindr Commercial sex (#2) - the next day after doing pool stuff all morning and letting my family to nap, I decided to meet another guy that offered his services on Grindr. This time there were no red lights and it was indeed a pleasurable experience. There was one part I was not sure if I was gentlemen enough. That guy wanted to cum while I fuck him. The whole concept of me paying for sex is usually accompanied by the fact that I don't care if the guy wants to cum or not. Tiger from Tawan asked me if I want him to cum which I replied "if you wanna cum, then cum, but don't do that for me since I don't care". Back to this guy. He really wanted to cum but could not do that in my favorite sexual position. So he wanted me to fuck him missionary. If he was just a Grindr hookup I would surly compromise on that. But he was not. So I told him that I want to keep fucking him while he lays down flat on his belly which is a position that is really hard for the bottom to cum in. But for me it's my favorite. After I cum he asked me to just stay inside him, which I had no problem doing and he cum quickly. If anyone thinks I should have acted differently, I would like to hear that. Anyways guy seemed happy with his tip and wanted to meet again so I think I was kind enough. 
    Grindr questionable experience (#2) - after an evening with my family, went to Boyztown again to BBB with same experience as leg 2. During the show I start chatting with a hot guy that seemed serious on meeting. Some red lights were there only to be totally ignored by yours truly. The guy suggested a short time place he knows called "Full Love Inn". I came there and texted him. He asked me to get the room and to send him the room number. It was at that point I got a hold of myself and started getting suspicious. I sent him a fake number just to see the reaction. First reaction was that he was on his way. I thought to myself, Ok cool, maybe I'm being too suspicious here. After a minute, another message "you can do whatever you want to me". That is a bit weird to send now. I don't reply. Another minute passes by and I get the message: "I'm a ladyboy". I Ask for real photos and got ladyboy's pics. Asked why lie, got text back "because I like you". Blocked that profile on Grindr and took a motortaxi to my first visit this trip in Jomtien. I do take into consideration that it could be just some prank and not really a ladyboy. I find this incident a little annoying but mostly amusing and I carry on with my night. 
    Grindr commercial sex (#3) - Jomtien complex is happening that night. Lots of guys and customers. While enjoying the show at m2m I get a Grindr message from a working guy. He says he works at @home bar, and I say I'll come and say hi after the show. Indeed, I go there, and this guy is kinda unique physically in that twink ville. And I'm quite attracted to him but do not intend to actually off him that night. He invites me to sit which I comply since I'm willing to have a drink and a chat with him but not more that night. And I was perfectly clear on that with him as well. So we chat, I get us both drinks, we chat some more and he is really sweet talking me into offing him, although I was perfectly clear with him and stated from the beginning it's not going to happen that night. I thought I had better options that night (only to discover later I was wrong). At a certain point he suggests that I fuck him in the back room of the bar, in which I decline. Then he says he'll do it for free and that I'll just need to pay for the room. I then explain him that it's not about the money, it's that I have other plans and that tomorrow I might come again. His English is perfect which is also a nice experience. Finally, he suggests he just sucks me for a little time before I go. It's hard to refuse a blowjob from a sexy guy. He succeeded on his mission of cracking me down. Paid the drinks, 300THB for the bar's questionable room and went up there. After the promised blowjob, and because he asked me so nicely, it was hard not fuck this guy. So I did. He cum fast and got really embarrassed about it. I told him that's cool and that maybe I'll come tomorrow to have more proper fun with him. I was really cool with that short interaction since I didn't want more. Although he said this one is for free, I don't believe in free gifts in the commercial scene so I tip him and we say our goodbyes. He will be very eager to meet the next day but I keep him on hold since I was not sure I'll come. The night ended there because the other options I thought might occur, did not so I went to bed 2AM which was relatively early for this trip. 
    The day after, my dad asks my mom to look after my daughter for a couple of hours while we go to see their condo. For some reason which is unclear to me, my parents, out of all the places in the world, own a condo in Pattaya and wanted to show it to me. I never asked about that place but I always knew it exists. It's a 1br apartment located very well in a nice building somewhere between boyztown and Jomtien. After talking to the woman in charge of the maintenance and long term rent tenants, it was easy to understand that as an investment, it's not a very good one. At least not now. Anyways my dad was really excited that I got to see it and appreciate it since he knew I'm the only one of my siblings that would appreciate that place and actually see it in person. If I need to guess, he wants me to have this apartment one day and that is why he wanted me to see it. But I'm not sure. Anyways I told him I prefer an apartment in BKK LOL. 
    After that, some pool, rest, Terminal 21 and I put all the gang to sleep and go out for my last night out in Pattaya. Some other options I thought might occur, did not, so I text the guy from last night I'm on my way to Jomtien. We were both happy to see each other. Upon arrival I stated exactly what I wanted: to have a couple of beers together and then go and have fun. And that is exactly what happened. After finished drinking and a very pleasant time together at the bar, I asked him to find us a short time hotel. He said he didn't know any, but he'll look around. I expected it to be very easy for him but it's probably a result of him being relatively newbie. After about 10 minutes of him trying to find a proper place for us, I decided I'll make some lemonade from yesterday's lemons. I tell him to let me find us a place. We go out, and I tell the motorcycle driver to take us to a place called "Full Love Inn". LOL. Short term room was nice and very cheap 250 THB. I put 2 sets of music which I know together are almost 3h. Sexually night was great and we were a great fit. We both cum close to the end of the second set just in time to return our room. We say our goodbyes, exchange LINEs, I tip him, and that ends this leg since morning time was my time to move on to the final leg. My beloved BKK. 
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    BL8gPt reacted to Boy69 in Jupiter 2018 is open!   
    Since the sharp drop of Western gays coming to Thailand the bars do not have choice but to adapt the Far East tourists preferences .
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    BL8gPt reacted to vinapu in Boyz Boyz Boyz Club, In Gay Pattaya, Thailand   
    .. and some can be persuaded to change their mind, speaking from experience.
    Not a great performance should be expected in such a case  but still very acceptable and worth of repeat, at least in  case of guy I offed.
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    BL8gPt reacted to williewillie in Boyz Boyz Boyz Club, In Gay Pattaya, Thailand   
    After many months of not going to Boyzboyzboyz because of the backless stools, I returned tonight after seeing
    chairs with backs.  Boyzboyzboyz has been completely redone.  The chairs were quite comfortable.  
    The audience was about 95% Asian, with more women than men, but plenty of Asian guys too. 
    The show now has one intermission, which is better than two on my last visit.  Show was mostly good but less
    graphic, which apparently is preferred by the Chinese.  
    Boyzboyzboyz is definitely a boy bar and definitely not a gay bar.  Some gogo boys will only go with women!
     
     
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    BL8gPt reacted to GoldMember in Trip report Sep-Oct 2019 - Crazy Things At Night   
    Leg 5 - Singapore - where are the shirtless gay men dancing?
    Arrived to Singapore Friday after noon for 4 nights. This was my first visit there. My dad joined my trip on this leg which had a positive and negative impact on my trip. On the one hand, I stopped paying for accommodations and generally everything except my own expenses when I was out at night. On the other hand, I shared the bedroom with my daughter and lost my privacy and ability to host. Although I did not feel comfortable hosting ever since my mom came even though we were in separate rooms. 
    Hotel review - Ascott Orchard - 2BR apartment (450 USD per night): Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore. Well the price speaks for itself. This is not Thailand and accommodation is expensive. Taking that into consideration, apartment was really well decorated and we enjoyed it a lot. We stayed in that apartment for 2 nights. 
    Cruise - I visited this gay sauna during my first and second night in town. This was actually a pleasant surprise. Place was not packed at all both times I was there. But, a fair amount of the crowd that did attend the place were very much to my taste and I enjoyed this place on both of my visits. 
    Taboo club (#1) - This is Singapore's current main gay club excluding some circuit rare events. I visited this place on Friday, my arrival day. I was very disappointed to find out that everyone is not only wearing their shirt, but also dressed really elegantly. I came wearing party wear and felt a bit misfit. I don't do elegant. Music was more pop than house so I left after an hour. 
    Tantric bar (#1) - located opposite to Taboo this place is where all the mingling happens. Gay mingling and socializing is not my cup of tea. I leave that for the Americans lol. But having no other options I came there, and the atmosphere is vibrant and friendly. I will say that although Singapore nightlife was a little boring compared to my expectations, Grindr was boiling. Maybe it is that way as a consequence of that fact. 
    Grindr hookup (#7) - At the bar, I get a text from a local couple. I try to avoid sex with couples but so many of my principals fade away when the guys are hot and I'm horny. Met them at their apartment for a surprisingly hot and fun interaction. Was there for a couple of hours, first hour was drinking and second hour was me and the Asian taking turns on the white guy which was awesome. Something about the big tall white guy being our bottom turned me on as my statistics on mixed couples was always opposite till then.
    Next night was Saturday night. After enjoying Singapore attractions such as Santosa Island, Orchard road, I went out. Some locals on Grindr promised me tonight will be better. Well, it was more crowded but not better. Taboo (#2) and Tantric (#2) were exactly the same nature. No one dancing shirtless which is my sign of my kind of fun gay vibe. 
    Grindr hookup (#8) - From Tantric, took a taxi to my hotel. A guy I started Grinding with upon my arrival suggested I come to his hotel. It was already 3AM. I told him that I'll come for a short visit. My parents knew I'm going out every night and we applied a don't ask don't tell policy so they can keep my image of a descent family man. So, returning to the room early morning was something I was hesitant about. In addition, There were some red lights: he was too young for me, he lived in Singapore but took a hotel room and I didn't understand why, Grindr photos were unclear. All red lights turned green upon meeting him. A exotically beautiful 24yo tall very lean guy with some muscle. An exact definition of twunk. He said he sometimes gets a room for one night to find some peace and quiet and to be able to have some private fun. He then realized he had left a very small amount of lube and was bummed he didn't tell me to buy some on the way. I then opened my fanny pack and assured him we have enough lube for the night. He was amazed by the fact that I was carrying lube with me on my night out. The truth is when I was out at night, I always took with me my fanny pack that contained lube, oil, condoms and measurement tape. Cause you never know LOL.  Anyways night with that guy was all about passionate sex and in terms of sexual chemistry this was my trip's peak. Came back to the hotel at 6AM. At 8AM my parents saw that I'm too tired to wake up and were kind enough to take care of my daughter till I finally woke up at 9. 
    Third day was moving day - new hotel Marina Bay Sands. In my original plan, this was supposed to be our only hotel in SG but @PeterRS advised me to reconsider that hotel. 
    Hotel review - Marina Bay Sands - 2 Interconnecting garden view rooms (390 USD per night per room): Well, this place is a factory. A very nice one, but still a massive holiday monster with a Vegas vibe. Pool is what I expected - beautiful. And it was nicer than I expected in terms of calmness. Rooms were huge, clean and a little outdated. It is an overwhelming experience to stay at this massive monster. It is definitely not worth 4 nights since it's massiveness is a bit tiring and charmless. As an experience I do recommend 1 or 2 nights.  
    Third day in Singapore was dedicated to enjoy our new pool and the hotel surroundings of mall and beautiful gardens. Hotel gym was impressive too with views from the 55th floor. 
    At night I was still very tired from the night before and decided to have a chill night at Tantric (#3) with a beer and go to sleep. Tantric was very calm that Sunday eve and I enjoyed nice conversions with some locals. After about an hour, 2 guys entered the bar. I recognized them both from Grindr since they texted me regarding a threesome and I ignored. Not because I didn't want it, but I was unsure and when I'm unsure I prefer not texting until something changes which is usually when I'm more horny and/or drunk and/or see the guy in person and know how he really looks. Upon entering both guys sat next to me and started flirting. One guy is local and is my age and shape, the other is a tourists in the muscle daddy category. They were good friends but not a couple. After an hour we left to his hotel (Sofitel) which seemed nicer than both hotels we stayed in Singapore but I'm not sure since I only had a glimpse of it at night. Sex was fun, had better chemistry with one over the other which is reasonable but is also a little tiring cause I try not to show it. returned to my room at about 3AM. All and all night turned out more than what I planned for but it was fun.   
    Last full day in Singapore consisted on more touristic stuff. At night I wanted to try a sauna that was unlisted in TravelGay but was recommended by the local guy from the couple I'v been with the day before. Keybox. 
    KeyBox - It was Monday night so I was unsure whether this place will be even slightly packed so I FAKEGPS'd there. By Grindr I could see that there are people inside. I started texting with the only guy that was eye candy for me, and he said the place is packed, and that I should come and that he will take good care of me. His profile stated oral edging which suited me perfect that night. I of course did not commit to him in any way since I wanted to see the crowd my self. I Grabbed a taxi and entered to discover the place was indeed quite full as it was nude night. Although the place had a fair amount of people the only guy that I wanted to pursue was the guy that I texted with. Located him quite quickly and entered a cabin. This guy was everything he promised to be. Full service, he did not even let me do any kind of pleasuring him, which suited me great. After about an hour of getting serviced and manhandled I left Keybox happily to sleep my last night in SG. 
    Singapore was great for sex, but not at all what I expected for party. 
    For our family, the touristic stuff was also great. This was my parents favorite destination. 
    Next day some more touristic shit and on to the next leg - Pattaya again!   
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    This is not a good sign it might be a step before permanently closure.
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    BL8gPt reacted to GoldMember in Trip report Sep-Oct 2019 - Crazy Things At Night   
    Leg 4 - Chiang Mai - The laid-back leg
    Arrived Chiang Mai Tuesday After noon for 3 nights. this is my first visit to this city. This leg was probably my least eventful. 
    Hotel review - Le Meridien- 2 interconnecting rooms (110 USD per room per night): The location of this hotel is great. Rooms are relatively large and comfortable. I can agree with @DivineMadman and @PeterRS impression of this hotel. This hotel has very little character and is more like a massive business hotel. But, service was great, rooms also and hotel Italian restaurant was high class. Breakfast was a bit too crowded and of fair quality but not what I expected from that brand. 
    Adam's Apple - After dinner and a visit to the night market, I went out to explore a place I had some expectations of: Adam's Apple. That bar is nice, professional and friendly. It was also rather empty that night and I was 1 of 3 customers. About 20 guys participating in a rather nice and professional show. That place was entertaining but guys on display were on the twinkish side so I enjoyed the show and went to an have an early night's sleep. Only in Chiang Mai I managed on getting more than 5 hours sleep at night. 
    Classic House Massage  (#1) - The next day after visiting an elephant sanctuary, I put my daughter to sleep and walked 7 minutes from Le Meridien to Classic House Massage. I was really pleasantly surprised by the variety of men that were there. About 20 guys on display with a fair amount of guys on the beefy / muscular side. Also liked the clarity of the place: on the menu it is written 600 for massage, 600 minimum tip and a recommendation of 1000 minimum tip if happy ending services were supplied. Massage was very erotic, and the end was indeed happy. The day after I came again to Classic (#2) and it was exactly as enjoyable with a different and attractive guy. 
    Ram Bar - Second night in Chiang mai went to the bar there and enjoyed the show which was also professional and entertaining. 
    Grindr Hookup (#6) - On my last night I set up a meet with a guy I started texting the first day I arrived. My daughter and mother just went to sleep so I insisted that we will wait another half an hour before we go up to my room. The guy suggested we go to his place. For me was a better option so I agreed. We go out and I expect to see a scooter but instead it was a fancy car. It didn't matter to me but the fact is that when I hookup with a Thai local, I always assume that money is not something he has plenty of. I was totally wrong here cause this guy was younger than me and had a really fancy car and living alone in an massive private house which was just surprising as I did not expect that. Sex was fun too. 
    Most of my Chiang Mai time was spent in attractions: Art in Paradise, Umbrella factory, markets, Zoo etc. I enjoyed the calmness of that place after the intense weekend in BKK. 
    After 3 nights there it was travel time again to our next leg - a new destination for me as well - Singapore! 
     
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    Day 5: Caught the BTS to Asok and had a wander around Terminal 21. Ended up buying some jeans, shorts, and shirts from H&M and had a cheap lunch at the food court, although the serving sizes were quite small. When I got bored, I went back on the BTS to Sala Daeng and went to Prime Massage. I've heard a lot of good reviews about this place so I decided to give it a try. When I got there, they were quite busy, but it was quite efficiently run. I wanted to get a 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai massage, but the lady at the counter said if I got a 30 min foot/1 hour Thai then I wouldn't have to wait, and could get started straight away. So I went with that. 450 baht. My guy was a cutie, and quite smiley as well. Foot massage was good, and the Thai massage was amazing - out of all the Thai massages I've had in my life, I don't think I've ever been contorted into so many positions. He was really strong and worked hard, so I tipped him 300 baht. Since I was quite impressed, I made an appointment for the following day with the same guy for a 1 hour foot/1 hour Thai. On the way back to the BTS station I took a detour and walked through the Patpong night market (it wasn't quite night yet so they were still setting up), and then back down the street that some of the bars are on (Screwboys, Dreamboy Paradiso etc). I also walked past so many massage places. I just want to try them all out!
    Day 6: Went to MBK to have a bit of a look, nothing too spectacular there, lots of stalls like a market. I had some lunch and bought a pencil case. Afterwards I went back to Prime for my appointment, got there a little earlier and was able to start straight away. My massage guy looked like he got a fresh haircut too. If I thought yesterday was good, today was even better and he was using some moves that he didn't use yesterday. Pretty legit massage, although he came in contact with my 'area' a few times, whether accidental or deliberate, I didn't mind. Tipped him 500 baht as he worked really hard over the 2 hours he was with me. Then I was thinking, if these guys work this hard all day for hours and hours, they must get really sore.. or maybe during their training they learn how to massage without hurting themselves? Later in the evening I went for a drink (and dinner) at heaven rooftop bar. It's in the same building as Arena and you have enter through a spa (like heaven spa or something) and take the elevator up to the top. It was quite a nice atmosphere with some live music. A nice place to take your guy. I ended up messaging J (from the beginning of my trip) because I wanted to give him another chance so I asked if he wanted to spend the night, and he said yes and would meet me later on, so after dinner I went back, had a shower etc, and he messaged me again saying that he forgot his mum was visiting and couldn't come. Never mind, I kinda knew that something like this would happen!

    Day 7: So today was my last day. I decided to move hotels as my flight was tomorrow and I didn't want to travel on the BTS during rush hour with my suitcase (plus I wasn't super into my current hotel). I ended up booking a room at Sukhon which is literally right outside the Phaya Thai BTS station. It's a relatively new hotel (opened last year I think), and it was clean and neat. I was on the 5th floor (top floor) and had views of the BTS station lol. Ganymede is quite close by so I decided to pay a visit. There were about 6 guys there on arrival and I chose a slightly muscular one (not sure why, as I'm more into the twinky types), but I did like his face. Showered alone down the corridor, went back to the room and the guy came in after a while. Massage was okay, was offered sex and asked him to f*ck me but he had trouble staying hard. Oh well, a handjob it was. Paid the 700 baht massage fee and minimum 1000 baht. Better luck next time I guess! Not that many options in terms of food around the Phaya Thai area but I found a relatively empty restaurant and had some curry chicken noodles.

    Day 8: The hotel provided a choice of American or Thai breakfast and I got the Thai option and it was quite delicious. Shortly afterwards, I walked to the airport link station (so close) and finished my time in Bangkok (I would then go to spend some time in Singapore then Bali).
    So all in all my trip was okay, I could have done a lot more (I just got really complacent and lazy), but I learn more every time I come here. I think for next time I'll stick to a bit of an itinerary so I can get stuff done, and in the meantime work on my health a little bit so that when I actually arrive, I'm not so tired all the time. I did get some offers from forum members to meet up, but I didn't end up arranging anything - so apologies and perhaps next time! I also didn't manage to go to any bars, to be honest I'm a little nervous, but I guess once I do it, it'll be easier and I won't be so scared! I have quite a bit of Thai baht left so I'm actually thinking about coming back in December and spending some time in Bangkok and Pattaya. I've already been looking at flights. I don't have much on during that time so I thought I may as well.. Thanks for reading, sorry it's not as steamy as other forum members reports, but it's what I can manage for now! xx
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    BL8gPt reacted to vinapu in Get used to it   
    thank God we humans are very adaptable to changing circumstances.
    Travel expenses can be reduced  by being more diligent looking for better deal, booking early , travelling  mid-week, gnashing teeth in economy class , going for less convenient connections etc.
    With abundance of rooms in BKK and Pattaya hotels there always will be good deal on accommodation although we may settle for less luxurious than our  usual options.
    When comes to food  as you noticed we have great scope for savings  by  dining in cheaper places and on the street. What we may reduce if necessary is social dining, in my case watching where I'm inviting my offs to have their meals .
    Even in entertainment we can  recuse out spending by resorting from time to time to cheaper places ( two massages at Senso or Prince = three of the same length at Bangkok Massage or Arena), replacing LT with ST from time to time or even giving ourselves whoring break every so often. Being loyal to particular guy may give  us scope to look for deal on tip from him.
    Keeping  cool head in bar helps too , one drink is enough, if we are offing guy known to us no need to buy him a drink and does mamasan really deserve that 100 baht tip just because she smiles  at us? 
    Shortening trip be few days may help and reducing number of annual trips may produce some savings and above everything setting realistic budget and sticking to it my help - worked for me on last trip , first in time  immemorial without trip to ATM.
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    BL8gPt reacted to GoldMember in Trip report Sep-Oct 2019 - Crazy Things At Night   
    Leg 2 - Pattaya - ALL inclusive hotel   Arrived Pattaya mid week Monday till Friday.   Hotel review - Centara Grand Mirage - 2 interconnected rooms (150 USD per room per night): This hotel is for families. I see no reason for a gay solo/couple coming here without children. It is far north and kinda isolated. For my needs it was great because this hotel has children activities, water park, children's pool etc. They also guaranteed me in advanced the interconnecting rooms which was the most important thing for me because I wanted privacy at night but also to be near my daughter and nanny. Breakfast is OK, but not more than that. Hotel Gym is one of the best I have seen for a hotel.    Grindr hookup #3 - same as in Bangkok, I fakedGPS to the hotel a week before arriving. I then realized that one of the staff members is hot and gay. We first met on my arrival day but just for drinks cause he had a day off and was headed to BKK for the night. So 3 out of 4 of my nights there, my night fun was also provided by the hotel. So, I had zero intrest in leaving to explore out Pattaya. Fun with that guy was awesome with great chemistry and sex so meeting him night after night was something I was anticipating. This hotel was really ALL INCLUSIVE for me.    Pattaya night out - I went out on my first night cause that was the only night my hotel entertainment was out of town. I started with BoyzBoyzBoyz that had a nice show but too twinkish guys for me. After that walked to Sunee which was dead so returned to Boyztown. Saw a really shredded guy outside Scandic offering me a massage. He stated the price of 1500 THB which seemed high for Pattaya but I was horny so didn't care. Later on I realized that 1500 included the tip but I guess that place enjoys the vagueness of that fact. Massage was fun so I didn't care that much. Place is horrible in terms of cleanliness and facility but for me it's not that important. It's always all about the guy.    Helios Massage - on my second afternoon in Pattaya, I decided to try their soap scrub that was previously reviewed here. I texted with the place using LINE. They were unwilling to send photos of the guys working and mentioned they have athletic guys but none of them big muscle. The words "athletic",  "muscular " are quite subjective so I had no other option but to try and see. Went there and was unsatisfied with the guys on display. Mamasan was hot but I didn't ask since he didn't offer. Upon exiting the shop he texts me "and what about me?" I then returned to the shop for my massage. That massage was awesome. It's in a special room and mattress with lots of foam being rubbed in sensitive places. I really loved it.    Poppers in Pattaya - my second night in Pattaya was my first night with my guy from the hotel. We had lots of fun together but he said he can't do anal with me unless he has poppers although he's ok with keeping sex without anal. I had lots of fun with him but really wanted to fuck with him on the next nights. Morning after our first night of fun, I texted mamasan of Helios. He connected me with another guy and 35 minutes and 850 THB later I had been delivered poppers to my hotel. I love Thailand. Anal sex with that guy was awsome. He had a handless prostate orgasm, which is something I haven't seen till then.    After 4 great nights in Pattaya, weekend came again just in time for me to do be Bangkoking again during the third leg of this trip. 
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    BL8gPt reacted to GoldMember in Trip report Sep-Oct 2019 - Crazy Things At Night   
    Shalom y'all!
      Just landed. Took some plane time to start writing.   Some Background. 35yo married + 1. Israeli. This was my 6th trip (and trip report!). My husband has a big exam soon so he asked me to take our 3 yo daughter and go somewhere for the entire Jewish Holidays period (almost a month). Without any hesitation I booked us both a ticket to BKK for 26 days.    The first 10 days of my trip was accompanied by a Thai nanny, and the rest was with my parents that decided to join some parts of my trip to spend quality time with their grand daughter.    The trip was devided to 7 legs and so will this trip report. I scheduled it so we'll be in fun to party places during weekends (Bangkok, Singapore) and the mid week we went to places where it doesn't matter that much if you come on weekends or not (Pattaya, Chiang Mai).    Since this trip was relatively long, and most of my time was spent at kids stuff with my daughter, this report will not be a detailed one. I'll try to stay focused on things that will be of interest to this forum. Take into consideration that my trip was about 70% child play and 30% dad's play haha. The report will focus on dad's play.   Leg 1 - BKK weekend - Engines on   TLV-BKK 11h flight went easy considering the fact that it was just me, 3yo girl and a fair amount of carry on luggage. The fact that I won the bid for upgrade to buisness class sure helped LOL.    Suvarnabhumi Fast Track - after getting recommendations from forum members, I ordered Fasttrack, golf car, porter and a car with a child seat. 14 minutes from airplane gate to the car!! It was not cheap (4800 THB) but very helpful for a dad in need.    Upon arrival, met the nanny which we already knew from our previous trip.    Hotel review - Somerset Park Suan Plu - 3BR apartment (220 USD per night): This place was conveniently located a 3 minute short walk from Prince. When traveling with family, the concept of serviced apartments is my preferred. Apartment was all I could ask for: big, clean and each room had a lock haha. Breakfast was medium. Will return.    I decided that first day of my trip will be dedicated to commercial sex and the days after will be dedicated to non commercial sex.    Prince #1 -  My goal with fasttrack was to arrive to the hotel at 4PM so my daughter will nap immediately upon arrival. I've become an expert in adjusting her naps to my needs haha. So it was no more then 15 minutes upon arrival that I was already at Prince after checking in, greeting the nanny and putting my daughter to sleep. Guys on display were nice as always. I saw the guy I was with last time, who is nicked Cha. For some reason, this guy seemed to be actively avoiding eye contact with me. At a certain point he actually stood behind someone and appeared hiding. He was of course the hottest guy there that afternoon. And by hot I mean shredded muscle. Retroactively thinking, I'm not sure why I chose him knowingly that he is avoiding me. But that is exactly what I did. I don't come to Prince to get massaged so can't comment on that. But his service was even better than our previous time. And by service I mean getting fucking him while he flexes. And also the prefuck teasing. All was so good I have really no idea why he was avoiding me. But I am sure he was. Left that place very happy and satisfied. I will see Cha a week later at XXO party. He looked at me and said "you look familiar". I told yes, I know. He then said "from the gym, right?". The whole situation was so weird I told him no and just smiled and went on. I then found his Grindr and IG. He states there specifically that he is not a MB. I contemplated the thought of sending him a massage and talk but that stayed only a thought. Anyways, Prince was a great start.    Tawan #1 - after my daughter woke up, we went to Asiatique market for a pleasant evening. Recommended. I Put her to sleep at 22 with the goal of making it on time to Tawan. Arrived at Tawan 22:30 and finally met this forums superstar massage reviewer, DivineMadame. We had a nice conversation and inspection of guys. We both appreciated the looks of one guy in particular over there. He definitely seemed like a superstar and got his share of attention and tips from the crowd. When the show ended, encouraged by DivineMadame, I went to say hi. I ask for his name, of which he replied Tiger. 15 minutes later we were at my room. I didn't expect much from that guy cause I thought he was more eye candy than bed candy but he was mind blowing at what I needed from him. Which was a intense and intimate muscleworship session.    The next day I took my daughter to the weekend market. An exhausting and nice place. When it was time for her nap, it was time to go to Babylon (#1). Until that point, Babylon never failed me. Nor it did this time. Had a taste of the local buffet of Asian crowd and some white guys too. I really like that place. After some more quality time with my daughter, it was bed time for her and play time for me. Had a sex night with someone I met on Grindr (#1) during my previous trip. This guy wanted to film our action. I only agreed to do that with my phone so we did that, then watched, then played more. It was a great night. Came back way to late considering the fact that at 8AM my daughter will wake me up.    Next day, after some more exploration of Bangkok's children's play spaces, it was dads play time at Babylon (#2). This was the first time Babylon failed me. Don't know why. Maybe I was too tired, maybe just bad karma, maybe after a while I got too picky. But after about 2 hours I decided that I need to face the fact that no fun will probably happen here. So I left Babylon unorgasemed for the first time and to date also the last time.    At the evening I took my daughter to the Cat Cafe. It was a nice experience although I think the cats were way too friendly and probably drugged. After putting her to sleep I had some time to kill before my Grindr hookup so I went to Banana boys and the show and guys has improved since the previous time I was there.    Grindr hookup #2 - I started working BKK Grindr a week before arriving with FAKEGPS. A week before arriving I just started talking to ALL the hot guys there. One guy, I actually talked to several times before but it didn't work out till this trip. He unsurprisingly works in the fitness industry. This time he was more eager to meet. We met for drinks at Silom. I then realized that this guy, as hot as he was, had serious issues of low self esteem. I usually find it tiring cause then I need to invest energy in making him feel desired and hot. So, I play along cause I have a goal of bringing him to my room. An hour later we are in my room. He still needs a lot of me ensuring him that he is good enough for me which is a little turn off for me. But I was really into fucking that guy so out of 3 hours meeting, one hour was probably dedicated on sweet talking him to bed. But it was worth it cause that guy did everything I wanted in bed. He also had a very clear OCD which made him very sensitive to his cleanliness. But he softened with time. All and all it was a great night. 3AM, 20 mins after he left, my daughter woke from a nightmare. I was very happy that it did not happen earlier. I did not want her exposed to the other side of this trip.    After about 4 hours of sleep my daughter woke me up, and we started packing and getting ready for our next leg - Pattaya!   
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