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    Patpong last night

    in Gay Thailand

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Patanawet said:

    I started this thread asking for information about how other areas than Soi 4 are operating in these days of 4 o/clock closing.

    These past few messages seem unrelated to my question -- not only that, I can't understand a word of them.

    Any chance of answers to my original question?

    You started this thread??

    Patpong last night

    in Gay Thailand

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Lucky said:

    Can anyone speak about #10 at Hotmale? Easily the hottest guy I have seen doing sex work this visit. He seems to know it too. Now, back to the master, @vinapu.

    Of course, good looking people always know they are good looking.  Can't say the same about ugly people though.

    Brazil - umpteenth trip, first report

    in Gay Brazil

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    1 hour ago, 12is12 said:

    Please excuse my ignorance; m not sure I undrstnd these interactive scenes. 

    OK

    1 hour ago, 12is12 said:

    Is it like a free for all orgy, payment covered by first drink or actually free? 

    Yes, you pay an entry fee to the club, no other fees to the dancers unless you want to voluntarily tip them, but most customers don't. 

    1 hour ago, 12is12 said:

    And the working guys just make out nonstop with any patron that grabs them?

    It's up to the dancer, he may skip you, play with you less, or play with you more.  Some dancers just stand there for anyone to touch them and/or suck their cocks. Actually, the play positions are quite limited, mostly standing up, sometime sitting down, because there is no mattress like in a sauna room. In any case, the dancers will not just play with you, they are there to be shared.  So, don't expect much one-on-one play.  And, these dancers are usually much lower quality than sauna GPs because they are not able to earn sauna price, that's why they are there.  This is geared towards the lower end of audience in the market as well.  The cost to the customer is less than 1/3 of one sauna programma, so you know why.

    Brazil - umpteenth trip, first report

    in Gay Brazil

    Posted

    1.  If all this is true, why not get on onlyfan to find Brazilian models and buy outcalls to your hotel in Brazil. This may be more expensive than sauna but worth it if we are talking about A-list quality. 

    2.  In my experience, the interactivo guys are usually lower quality than sauna GP's, because they get paid by the club and the pay is usually less than sauna (if they can get any customers at sauna at all)

    Sao Paulo/Recife...First Time

    in Gay Brazil

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    2 hours ago, davet said:

    I know the rule and I doubt that I'm an exception. But at least twice, a boy in a sauna has gotten me off without money changing hands. One time might have been a confusing negotiation (with lots of foreplay!). The other time, he was one of the scrawnier, gayer garotos, and I think he was just ready to get off himself. 

    Twinning? They used to call them "clones" and it's been going on forever, with outfit changes per decade.

    In a GP sauna? You should have paid him regardless.

    first time closeted guy, seeking advice on how/where to have muscle intimacy experience in US or abroad

    in Gay Thailand

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    6 hours ago, kris123ca said:

    Hi all, visitor here posting nervously, and hoping for your advice. 

    I'm a pretty closeted, 30 year old guy, have had very few / hesitant relations 1:1 with other guys, and I want to do something about this before I turn in to "who's that gross old guy trolling around here?"  (lots of personal issues, I know).   I live in California.  I am moderately attractive, go to gym, so I'm not lacking in physical appearance or hideous or something.  I'm not jacked, but tall, lightly muscular, and my friends note that "you're in good shape".  

    My problem: I'm continuing to be closeted (hard to fix this one), but I'm quite attracted to my straight guy friends, and if I don't do something about this, I'm gonna do something stupid and hit on one of them.  

    What I would like (almost need) as an experience to get me out of this problem, and here is where I'd like help to figure out what to do / where to find it: 

    • I want to meet a muscular guy for maybe 1-2 hours, not for sex, but for touching, feeling, intimacy without sex.  Shorts could stay on the whole time.  Looking for someone who is not roided up, hairy, etc. but looks good, goes to gym often, has relatively nice face.  
    • Have a bedroom kind of situation where I can playfully (and hopefully talking to the guy in a friendly warm way) touch his body, feel his muscles, have him flex for me
    • If things progress and he's open to it, I'd like to hug him closely, feel his body next to mine, have our cheeks touch, ears/necks/cheeks against each other (probably no kissing, I worry about STDs)
    • If things progress further and he's open to it, have him straddle me / act like he's going to top me for sex (but shorts on, no sex) and have me feel his body as he does the motions like he's having sex.  
    • possibly shower together, before or after.   Shorts stay on, or can come off is he's comfortable.   I'm not quite sure about this one myself (kind of embarrassed about being totally naked in front of a guy).   

    Help me tell what I'm looking for?  Where do you find this?  In a club, through an app?  Do you have to travel overseas to do this without embarrassment?  Can I find this in California or do I have to go to Thailand?   I'm worried about what that looks like reputation wise, but at this point I'm open to it.   I've travelled to Asia before, no problems, could easily go to any country there.   I don't want to stew in my own desires and have no way to experience this and get tempted to let it out on my friends inappropriately.   

    Thanks.

    I don't see why you need to be totally anonymous unless you are from a celebrity or politician family. I mean your social circle would have no overlap with any escort circle, so the chance of your friends and families finding out your "side hobbies" is zero.  But if you indeed are from a celebrity family and there are people who watch your life closely, your best bet is to go overseas (Brazil/Spain for western muscles, Thailand for Asian muscles). Otherwise,  there are male escorts in the U.S. at a higher price range to fulfill your needs(you live in California,  so check the offerings in Los Angeles), and you could save the cost of airplane tickets.

    Raw

    in Gay Brazil

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Xclay said:

    Several recent posts have commented at being shocked to see Brazilians going raw at orgies. Is this a trend? Are all these guys really taking PrEP? 

    At saunas around Brazil, I was surprised in 2023 on my two trip (16 weeks) to have so many hot bottom boys casually offering me unprotected sex, and seeming eager to take a load.

    I don't remember that from past decades. Well, actually I do remember from about 2005 a cute little blond in PA who really wanted it raw because that was such an exception back then.

    I always think of a straight comedian who says that he's never more eager to put on a condom than when a woman says "oh you don't need to wear a condom."

    The few times I've tried to ask I was told, if Google Translate got it all right, that they are indeed taking PrEP. ??? 

    In contrast, I've not noticed any change in ativos conscientious unprompted use of protection.

    Not only the parties in Brazil but also in Europe, I have seen most orgies are done bareback.  Of course some guys still use condoms but these are the minority these days. Let's face it, in a orgy party setting where multiple guys play simultaneously and switch often, it is just too cumbersome to change condoms, and impossible to keep track of who is doing what.  So if you don't do bareback, you should probably stay away, or just be an observer like @BlkSuperman at the orgy party.

    Fraud At Foodland?

    in Gay Thailand

    Posted

    1 hour ago, omega said:

    You've jumped from the ingredients are expired and rancid, to irrational fears about not knowing whats in the oil and sauces.

    Ingredients are cheap in Thailand, because it is an extremely fertile country with a constant growing season. Undoubtedly the street vendors are not buying A grade, Michelin star level ingredients.

    That doesn't mean the food isn't fresh, delicious or edible.

    The one respect in which you may have a point is the welfare standards of the animals they rear for food; but this point applies to any restaurant that uses locally sourced meat or poultry. 

    Let me correct my earlier statement to: You don't actually know if the ingredients are expired or rancid or edible quality. And you don't know what oil or sauce they use.  You don't know what animal source they use.  The only thing you do know is they are tasty, but perhaps with all the food additives, which you and I don't know this either because no information is disclosed.  In short, you just don't know anything about that cheap and tasty food.

    Fraud At Foodland?

    in Gay Thailand

    Posted

    2 hours ago, omega said:

    Absurd comparison.

    You're correlating poor quality processed food with freshly cooked food made with relatively basic, fresh ingredients.

    One indeed does have a choice. One can hold an irrational fear of bad ingredients and miss out on tasty, freshly cooked cheap food.

    Do you know what oil or sauce they use in the cashew chicken dish? You don't.  Do you or people who eat it care? Probably not.  You know the ingredients of TV dinners and McDonald's because by law this information has to be disclosed to you.  You don't know what's in the cashew chicken but you eat it under the assumption they are fresh and good quality.  A cheap food has to be made from even cheaper ingredients or there is no profit to be made.

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