paulsf

Sounds more like professional porn 😁

After massage, I took a nap. I had such a good sleep that I was surprised to wake up at 7pm! I had slept for 3 hours! I had a dinner appointment with fellow forum member at 8.30pm at Wine Connection at Silom Complex. I went there and we had dinner with our partners. 4 of us shared a bottle of wine and ordered individual salad dishes and a pizza. My Vietnamese con nuoi (godson) came along even though he was down with dengue fever a few days ago and is currently slowly recovering. Unable to work at his logistics packing and delivery job on doctor's orders, he had to forego his wages for these few days so I quietly slipped him some money to tide him by. I asked him why he only wanted to work at Dreamboys at night when he could easily work at Sol Bar and Screwboys (which I confirmed had Vietnamese guys. Report on Screwboys later). Con nuoi said those bars few customers compared to Dreamboys. We finished our dinner just before closing time at 10pm and parted ways. I was on my own for the rest of the night and of course I made my way to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs.

Day 3 - L, the massage guy from yesterday's massage came to my hotel at 2 plus. Yesterday, at the room in his massage shop on Soi 6, he had his clothes on until midway when he asked me if I would tip him for extra service. Only then did he get naked. This time, the moment he entered my hotel room, I started unbuttoning his shirt then lowered his jeans and black boxer briefs. (Same as yesterday? Or does he have several pairs of same type?) I also got naked and led him to my bed for massage to start. I believe it was easier for him to massage because the hotel bed is much bigger than massage bed. He was literally on me as he massaged me body on body, with his warm expanding cock rubbing against my a-hole. He didn't bring any massage oil or cream but the massage still worked because of his skilful strokes. It was one of the best sessions I had, erotic massage leading to sex. Yesterday, I asked him if he would cum with me. He had replied that he was working so he couldn't. But on hotel bed, HE got so horny that he begged me to jerk him off. He said he was man so he won't bottom but surprisingly, he allowed me to finger him deeply. I found his G spot and finger fuck him while he jerk his cock furiously. Finally he let out several cum shots which reached his chin. I kept him on hold and didn't let him wash up until I unloaded my cum on his sexy abs. After that we showered, I paid him his tip and he went back to his massage shop to work. Sorry this report sounds like amateur porn but I am just reporting what really happened. Hehe.

At 10pm, I left the merry folks of Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs to enter Sol Bar to watch the show. Mamasan led me to a seat on right side at second last row. The big pillar in the middle prevented a clear view of the stage but at least it had full mirror on it which allowed the back view of the guys to be reflected when the guys stood in front of the pillar as part of their rotation.
P, whom I got to know from last night, was waiting for me.  He was in white singlet and white shorts but no number. About 15 other guys were on stage and they had numbers embroidered on their singlets and shorts. I asked him why he had no number and he said something but I couldn't catch the explanation. No matter. I told him I wanted to watch the show. I definitely was taking him off so he could change to his own clothes. He took his leave and I surveyed the bar. There were low round sofa type of seats ideal for groups right below the stage.
Only about 10 customers including one Asian customer to my left seated with former Hotmale twink who had changed out of his waiter uniform. Asian customer (looks Taiwanese or HK) was taking him off but like me, wanted to watch the show. The bar started filling up quickly. Two separate groups of Thai customers came in and ordered bottle service. Each group called down some guys down from stage to drink with them for the night. Just before the show started at 10.22pm, (yes, I checked my watch), a group of 4 farang women tourists came in.  They took front row sofas below stage on the right side. Midway through the show, one of the Thai groups would move to front row sofas below stage on the left side.
Sol Bar has adopted the best practices of the other bars. Their show started in a similar fashion to Jupiter where the guys took turns to walk individually and present themselves to audience. Unlike Jupiter, they didn't have the cold lifeless model stare. The guys of Sol Bar were free to smile at audience. Most removed their singlets to showcase their upper bodies. Some seemed awkward with runway walk. They need more model training. Also unlike Jupiter, the numbers on their shorts were visible for all to see. Very accessible for any customer who wants to off a guy.
Regarding the show, there's only 2 ladyboy singing - the opening act (backed up by 2 dancers) and the fifth performance (a solo item). Total 8 performances and I don't count big cock show. The other performances are all performed by the Sol Bar guys themselves - mixture of dance numbers and slow erotic dancing. But overall what stood out was the last performance - a SM act between a master and a slave. The slave was stripped, pulled on a leash, thrown onto the floor, "whipped" and had candle wax poured on his body. Audience members were invited to pour wax - one lady from the all-girl farang tourists in the front row and the Asian customer sitting with ex-Hotmale guy. I suspect the latter arranged for him to go up on stage. Customer seemed sheepish but I could tell he enjoyed it! The twist at the end of the act was that the slave turned the tables on the master! I have watched similar shows at Freshboys and Tawan but this particular performance made it into an unforgettable viewing experience with a storyline. Kudos for best SM show in Bangkok, Sol Bar! Maybe Sol Bar should rename itself as Sol SM Bar!

After Z went back, I had time to myself in morning. I was at swimming pool for half an hour then back to hotel room for Netflix and Tiktok. At 1.30pm, I had lunch appointment with fellow forum member. He suggested we eat at new Foodland branch at Park Silom. Very clean and new but not as big as I expected. Prices are same as Foodland Patpong. However, atmosphere will never beat Foodland Patpong!
Fellow forum member and I then continued our conversations while we walked around Patpong and Silom. We did one full round from Park Silom to Silom Road to Soi 6 to Surawong Road to Soi Thaniya then along Silom Road to Soi 4 and back to Soi 6 where we accepted the invitation of two cute massage twinks. Massage for 60 minutes was 500 baht excluding tips. I was very satisfied with my guy, L and I got his Line after finding out he's willing to come to my hotel room before/after work. Finally, I have to share this sad photo of the place that used to be Coffee Grnder Silom.  

Was in Bangkok in early October and back again two months later. Link to October's trip report below.
https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40292-weekend-in-bangkok/
The reason why I decided to come again now instead of during Christmas (my usual timing) is because this week is the last week for two fellow forum members in Bangkok. They will be flying back after their months long stay. I am envious of them, being retired and all that. I can't get leave from work to go on holiday for months. The most I can ever get is 2 weeks at a stretch and unfortunately, I have used up my leave for this year and am left with only one week.
I arrived at Suvarnabhumi Airport yesterday evening from Singapore. After checking in and leaving my luggage in my room at Le Meridien, I was off to Hot Male Beer Bar downstairs. Both fellow forum members were already seated there. They were drinking and chatting with two guys from new Sol Bar just across the soi. One is an old timer from Twilight while the other is new. It was their off day hence they did not have to report to their bar and they could go to other bars.
Forum readers who read my previous trip report would know of my promise to buy authentic Calvin Klein briefs for Z, my current infatuation.

When I appeared at Hotmale Beer Bar, Z was elated to see me. I got him a three-pack with three colours - white, black and grey. Later in hotel room, he returned me the grey pair. Grey is not his colour. He likes white and doesn't mind black. He's both practical and sensible. "But it's size M. I can't wear it. I give to other boy?" I said. "Ok," he replied. We both know that even though we profess we are each other's boyfriend, we have (many) other boyfriends.
In fact, in the morning, just before we were to go for breakfast, he had to take a video call. I could hear from the accent that the guy is from Philippines. Z gestured to me to keep quiet while he spoke to his Filipino boyfriend, "I call you at 3pm and we chat ok? I need to sleep now." Lol!
Sorry I got ahead of myself. Back to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. Many customers. Festive mood. The guys from Sol Bar surprisingly didn't come out to the "balcony" as often as they did in October. Spotted a waiter who used to work at Hotmale and was one of the stars of the big cock show. If I ever go inside Sol Bar, I will ask him why he made the change.
I had a great time catching up with fellow forum members and the Hotmale Beer Bar waiters. I even exchanged Line account with P, one of the Sol Bar guys seated with us. I told him I could not off him tonight but I will off him another night. Z was the chosen one. After chatting for about an hour or so, our merry trio of forum members went our separate ways. I had a great time with Z and we were exhausted and slept by 1am. We continued with round 2 in morning then we washed up and went for breakfast. After breakfast, Z went home. "See you tonight!" we both said to each other.
 

Just as Gayinpattaya gets banned, another comes out of the woodwork..... posters like you two (if you're not 1 in the same) keep me looking like the normal one in the group.

Some  prefer going with older guys because they are less work and better tippers sometimes..... whenever I see an older guy out at the bars, I think "good for him" because I know of so many that either:

A: never made it to that age
B: sit at home, afraid to go out because of perspectives like yours.


We'll all be old, wrinkly with sagging asses, if we're lucky enough..... but I have a feeling I'll be satisfied with just a massage and a happy ending 😁

Did you see the new president of Argentina wants to make the country a US Dollar economy....he's a right wingnut like you, didn't you let him in on the news how the US dollar is a failing currency and he should go with a Russian or Chinese one....shame on you for keeping secrets.

If your Thai is anything  like your Spanish, knowing the Thai Alphabet won't be of much use to you  😲

You have no idea how many trips/cruises I've been on this year..... meanwhile you've been to.....Jomtien Super Complex??
I'm packing now for  a last minute trip to Rio..... just back 2 days ago from a Virgin Voyages cruise, I should post about it...lot's of gays onboard without being a gay cruise., also will be in Asia for 6 weeks Jan/Feb, so pizza business has been good 😛

You still owe me a hamburger, btw

Actually he came across street with other Viet guy to say hello to PaulSF.
Paul brought them drink and the newbie sat beside me. Nature took its course so I gave him 500 and he returned to Sol to change clothes.
Maybe I was also a bit influenced by his name (Nam). Lol.
it was also only his second night on job and first off.

This is simply an observation resulting from a few pleasant hours spent with two fellow board members—and some hot waiters and boys from Sol—last night from a table at HM.
Observed many visiting young and attractive Asian men alone or in small groups walking along Patpong 2. They were clearly enjoying the experience. 
Last Saturday while in the lobby of a favorite Saphan Kwai massage shop, two young Asians (not any older than the boys they were about to engage) entered and began scanning the tablet for candidates. 
I see them on the BTS all the time. Young Asian men doing some of the same stuff us older farangs are doing. They’re going to bars, getting massages and exploring the city. None of this is theoretically based; it’s simply anecdotal observations.

My spy (who is probably also ne of Vinapus spies) is reporting:
 
Customer drink 400 Baht
Boy drink 400 Baht
There were about 15 boys, probably many Vietnamese, most of them shirtless
During the show about 25 customers, mostly Thai/Asian, 4 women, on a Monday night
No smoking visible
Music volume ok (compared to Dreamboys)
 
Show announced for 22:20, started 22:20 (or 22:15, if you count the line-up as part of the show), all acts about 5 minutes long
0. 8 guys line-up on stage, but also come down to the audience, shirtless
1. 2 fck the chair simulation
2. 2 cuties dance around a pole
3. "sex bomb"
4. 3 guys dancing wrapped in a curtain to oriental music
5. 4 guys dancing with candles in their hands
6. 7 guys big cck show, also came to the audience
7. SM  show simulation, also came to the audience
8. 1 muscle guy dancing/showing his body
9. 8 guys line-up on stage, but also come down to the audience, shirtless
 
What I think:
25 customers is not bad, they will survive
Guys line-up coming to the audience sounds good to me, to have a better look (Screwboys does it too)
Show ok, nothing to special, no ladyboy acts

I had wanted to meet two guys from Moonlight and Tawan after reading positive reports about them from fellow forum members but I was kept occupied by the good company at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. In a first for me, on my last night, I bought a round of drinks for the staff and even included a small tip. Very friendly welcoming staff and excellent service.

This happened one month ago in 1st week of October. I was in Bangkok for a weekend. Took evening flight from Singapore. Once I checked into room at Le Meridien, off I went at 9.30pm to Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs to meet with forum member whom I haven't met for two years ever since Covid. New bar Sol directly opposite had some yummy shirtless guys hanging around once their rotation on stage ended. Was very tempted by blonde guy in photo but surprisingly, I didn't step into any gogo bar during my 3 nights. I shall explain why later. Sorry @vinapu for not being able to report on the show or the guys in Sol.
 

Before Covid Cathay sold the Jfk Vancouver leg as a separate ticket. So you could buy just that or thru to Hong Kong.    They stopped selling it during Covid.   

and we all know that business owners will do everything legal....

Glad to see you're still alive, Scott456 has been posting mostly helpful posts, Riobard is missing in action, I need someone to give shit to.....welcome back 🥰

The police decided Halloween would be a good night to roam thru Patpong checking for illegal workers.    Police came in from Surawong and workers ran out Silom side.    About 9 police gone and most workers returned. 
Also between about 7-8 there was a power failure.  Much of Patpong 2 in the dark.   And for those of you that don’t like loud music,  there was none for about an hour.    

The police decided Halloween would be a good night to roam thru Patpong checking for illegal workers.    Police came in from Surawong and workers ran out Silom side.    About 9 police gone and most workers returned. 
Also between about 7-8 there was a power failure.  Much of Patpong 2 in the dark.   And for those of you that don’t like loud music,  there was none for about an hour.    

The police decided Halloween would be a good night to roam thru Patpong checking for illegal workers.    Police came in from Surawong and workers ran out Silom side.    About 9 police gone and most workers returned. 
Also between about 7-8 there was a power failure.  Much of Patpong 2 in the dark.   And for those of you that don’t like loud music,  there was none for about an hour.    

The police decided Halloween would be a good night to roam thru Patpong checking for illegal workers.    Police came in from Surawong and workers ran out Silom side.    About 9 police gone and most workers returned. 
Also between about 7-8 there was a power failure.  Much of Patpong 2 in the dark.   And for those of you that don’t like loud music,  there was none for about an hour.    

The police decided Halloween would be a good night to roam thru Patpong checking for illegal workers.    Police came in from Surawong and workers ran out Silom side.    About 9 police gone and most workers returned. 
Also between about 7-8 there was a power failure.  Much of Patpong 2 in the dark.   And for those of you that don’t like loud music,  there was none for about an hour.    

I for one gladly pay whatever bars are trying to extort from me since i fund sitting in the room and combing apps much more boring then sipping me Chang in the bars. And if I find someone I know right away who shows at my door. But that's just me 

Post trip reflections.
Highlights
- S'sense is a big winner and a pleasant discovery for this trip. I always tend to go to a no hanky panky spa for a decent massage and then visit another place in search of the fun extras. I am delighted that from experience, both elements are present in S'sense. 
I always make it a point to avoid  recommending a specific guy as experiences and individual connection can vary. However, I would recommend Knott just for his massage skills alone.
 
- Hotmale is another surprise. I am pleased that I gave this place a second chance after a lack lustre experience from my first visit. 
- My meetups through apps have been consistently pleasant during this trip. While this mode takes heaps of time and effort to weed out time wasters and dodgy characters, it can be worth it. My meetups with non Thailand based MBs thru the app is a new Bangkok experience  for me.
- Tawan is always a highlight. The unpretentious ,relaxed and friendly atmosphere is something other boy bars are not able to duplicate.
- Kman Spa. Another notable discovery this trip. Worth the effort getting there. Looking forward to explore the other establishments in the Saphan Kwai area next time.
- LTs: maybe because of the lean season, securing LTs are not as difficult compared to previous experience pre pandemic. Most guys are also not in a hurry to go home the next morning. Maybe it's just my luck this time.

Lowlights 
- Banana bar just didn't tick any of my boxes this time. I'm not sure if its unusual but they only had four performers rotating the whole time I was there. People will take a peek by the door and will instantly walk off.
- Fresh boys is always a lowlight for me but I always end up visiting at least once every trip. The lack of subtlety on the part of waiters and Mamasans when asking for tips and drinks can be  irritating. I mean asking for tips/drinks within the first minute of conversation?
- AirBnB: given its legal status in Thailand, I always second guess and brace myself everytime I bring a boy back. The apartment I rented have posted notices and banners saying that the building is strictly for residential use and not for short rental like air bnb. The notices were written in a way that the renters can get into trouble if they don't report this to building management. But again, this is Thailand. While I didn't have any issues during my previous stay, I'll stick to the usual tried and tested Silom hotels next time.
- Jupiter: as advised,  I will try to ignore the ice cold standoffish behaviour of the guys next time. I might be in for a surprise.
- Dreamboys is a mixed bag for me. While their new place is a definite improvement, both my visits didn't result to an off. Not crossing this off my list and will give it a try next time.

Compared from my visit last year, things are really looking very positive. There seems to be no remnants of the pandemic and Silom / Surawong area is bustling with most establishments back to operating till late night / early morning. Overall, this 12 day experience have been pleasant with no major dramatics with any of my off. Fingers crossed it will be like this next time.
Thank you for reading my reports and hopefully this will be of help to you guys for your next trip. I am looking forward reading your future reports too!
 

There have been some changes in the local massage scene since my last trip in July. One new shop has entered the scene to become the lone mixed (male and female staffed) shop in either Patpong 1 or 2.
Chaichana has opened on Patpong 1, nearer the Surawong end on the same side the original Madrid was located. When I stopped by the other night, it had three guys—two of whom I found attractive—seated outside with four young women. They offer all the traditional services, including neck and shoulder massage. Some of the public services are offered on the first floor. Thai and oil massage facilities are located on the lower level accessed by wide and easily negotiable stairs. There are three large massage suites, all with massage tables and en suite shower. One hour oil 500. Hours 3pm until midnight. Attire is red polo shirts.  
Meanwhile on Surawong, there has been some consolidation and (if memory serves me correctly) some space swapping.
The shop at the corner of the driveway for Tarntawan Hotel is now known as Avarin and has also taken over the space which appears to have been the long-time home of Green Massage a few shop fronts away. Green is now situated in smaller quarters between the twin Avarin shops. Avarin staff in maroon polos while Green continues to wear the inexplicable orange. Avarin one oil 590. Further up Surawong you’ll find Olivia’s encamped in a large quarters adjacent to the still more expansive Urban Male shop. All of the shops mentioned have male and female staffs.
Toured the new and Foodland market in the recently opened Park Silom building at Silom and Convent roads. Located on the lower level, it’s L-shaped layout is expansive, featuring a salad bar and prepared (7-11 style) take away meals starting at 49 bht. It also offers an expanded beer, wine and liquor shop. The attached Took Lae Dee restaurant was going quite strong at 10pm on Monday night with about 25 customers. Like the flagship Patpong location, market and restaurant open 24/7. And for those in need, you’ll find an immaculately maintained restroom on same level.
There’s a Dairy Queen outlet also on lower level that I think closed at 9.

I made it to SOL gogo tonight.    Inside basicly same set up as it was with Dreamboys, except all new and modern.   And yes, the big pole is still in the middle of the stage.  Seating is black  vinyl bench type like used at FreshBoys.     Then in front of them row of single seats . Couch’s set up along the stage.    All seating seemed comfortable.    Group of 3 other customers and myself.    

About 10 guys on stage. Around 25 overall.  Rotating fairly quickly.   They were wearing white tennis type shorts and button up shirts that were colorful.  They looked nice, but if you want to see skin it will be below the knees.   1 guy was shirtless, 1 was unbuttoned.   
I think they have a ways to go in their talent hiring.  But that’s my opinion. We all have different likes and dislikes.   No twinks.   More mid to upper 20’s .  As Vinapu always says, you only need one.  There were 2 that got my attention , but a big drop off from there. 
 
Drinks 400.    I had a coke. Brought glass full but not the rest of can.  Half ice, half coke, steep price.  Waiter I had spoke no English.  Everything on phone.    Drink menu, Boy info.   Operating hours.   New place so really pushing boys and drinks.  No customers so lots of waiter hovering .          
I didn’t go to show. It starts at 10:20.   
They’re still doing a little work here and there.  Outside very generic, inside looks very nice.   
I guess time will tell.  

I think it's precise for the same reason   lovers of twinks, ladyboys and indeed girls are choosing Thailand.
Enough supply available in well organized system and at economic prices in safe environment. Guaranteed hot weather, good and varied food ,  lot of cultural attractions, well developed tourist infrastructure is a bonus. People with low self-esteem and meagre resources ( like me )  can boost their ego by lodging in great hotels for fraction of price  they'd be paying somewhere else.
Where you will go?
North America and Europe - too pricey
Latin America, discussed many times, guys cheaper and better built but food and lodging more expensive , airfares not competitively priced and safety concerns
Middle East - gay paradise but you will get there only after they behead or stone you first
Africa - where you want to start ? Uganda, Mali or South Africa, in short , expensive , unsafe and homophobic.
Russia - cold , expensive and always danger you may bump on the street into Moses
China - all dots may connect but not necessarily penetrable for foreigners.
in short , Thailand is only place where you guaranteed that in 3 hours from landing you will be in embraces of some  guy of your taste and survive to tell the tale, still holdin on to most of your cash.