Members endlessdream Posted November 15, 2018 Members Share Posted November 15, 2018 A Taiwanese friend of mine was refused at checkin at Rio airport for his Rio - Panama - Havana flight, on the ground that he was not vaccinated against yellow fever and malaria. I was very concerned because I will be flying from Barranquilla to Havana via Bogota in two weeks. I actually called Avianca. After speaking to three different agents and a lot of holding time, I was told that it was specific to passengers on flights originating from Brazil. Anyone heard anything like that? Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 https://www.passporthealthusa.com/destination-advice/cuba/ Colombia would fall under one of the countries, as far as I know. In my MANY years traveling to Cuba and dealing with Latin American/ South American airlines.....better to be safe than sorry. You NEVER can predict what rule they'll be enforcing at the moment. axiom2001 and MsGuy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trzinko Posted November 15, 2018 Members Share Posted November 15, 2018 until now, i have heard or used pills for malaria, not vaccine. vaccine actually exists since 2015/16, but it is protecting small number of people. (according to internet) can someone comment on malaria vaccine? and travel to colombia or any other country from brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Namuzu was refused travel from Brasil to Colombia for lack of yellow fever papers...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numazu Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 That wasn’t me @floridarob that was your other gringo-Asian friend Tartegogo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 The Yellow-Fever-specific inoculation requirement is a more recent one, having shifted from the lower 'recommended' tier in Feb 2017, for arrivals from Brasil to Panama (even just flight transit at Tocumen!), so I will be bringing my certificate with me because I have returned to using Copa Airlines from South America to the north. I have no need to currently investigate malaria or Cuba aspects. I do not think that malaria is an issue landing in Panama as it is likely the Yellow Fever spike in Brasil that precipitated the change. The traveller mentioned above may be unique in landing in two countries following departure from Brasil. More complicated to tease out. The rules for Panama are variable, depending on length of time at Tocumen and final destination. Best to call the airline. My previous connections in Panama past 21 months were (and always are) extremely short and involved jogging, so perhaps I was lucky to board in Brasil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 6 hours ago, numazu1 said: That wasn’t me @floridarob that was your other gringo-Asian friend Oh, thank god! We might have missed a story about how Numazu did a programa with the agent, who then let him in, as long as he also fucked his boss! Or something like that, and YES, I am just kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pauleiro Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 There is currently an epidemy of yellow fever around Amazonia. It is serious since a few people already died. I was recently on an Air France flight going to French Guyana which is just north of Brasil. It was compulsoru to show proof of vaccination at check in or boarding. If you plan to visit other parts of Brasil than Rio or Sao Paulo, it is currently highly advised to be vaccinated against yellow fever. Re-vaccination used to be compulsory every 10 years. Now one vaccination in a lifetime is sufficient. flipao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walker Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 Any recommendation where I can get the vaccination in SP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted November 16, 2018 Members Share Posted November 16, 2018 Likely most public health clinics "posto de saúde" for a fractionated (eg, 1/5) dose, good for 12 months ... supply limitations account for lack of full lifetime doses. Bring your translate app. For bigger guns: Albert Einstein Hospital or private clinics, cost more. You can contact your consulate (USA?) there for recommendations. If new travel requirements are driving your interest, note that you may need to be 7-10 days post-vaccination in order to enter, for example Panama, for a period of time exceeding the airport connection threshold (6 hours, I believe). flipao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 8:35 AM, numazu1 said: That wasn’t me @floridarob that was your other gringo-Asian friend Easy mistake, as you pointed out, you are generic Asian, no?? paulsf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted November 17, 2018 Members Share Posted November 17, 2018 22 hours ago, Lucky said: Oh, thank god! We might have missed a story about how Numazu did a programa with the agent, who then let him in, as long as he also fucked his boss! Or something like that, and YES, I am just kidding! That story would not be stretched as wide horizontally as the mile-high club is vertically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alaskabear Posted November 18, 2018 Members Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 3:05 PM, pauleiro said: There is currently an epidemy of yellow fever around Amazonia. It is serious since a few people already died. I was recently on an Air France flight going to French Guyana which is just north of Brasil. It was compulsoru to show proof of vaccination at check in or boarding. If you plan to visit other parts of Brasil than Rio or Sao Paulo, it is currently highly advised to be vaccinated against yellow fever. Re-vaccination used to be compulsory every 10 years. Now one vaccination in a lifetime is sufficient. Guyana, French guyana and Suriname are such a mystery. I want to go. What is Fay life there? It feels untethered to Latin America. Almost like it doesn’t exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Alaskabear said: Guyana, French guyana and Suriname are such a mystery. I want to go. What is Fay life there? It feels untethered to Latin America. Almost like it doesn’t exist Someone once asked me, why go looking for the pot of gold when you already know where it is, lol Alaskabear and flipao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted November 18, 2018 Members Share Posted November 18, 2018 Swipe left to right for increasing freedom and safety ... Guyana is more Caribbean in values. Sodomy law technically remains on the books. Suriname more relaxed but do not expect Netherlands-level openness. No mixing of same-sex surnames. French Guiana law follows that of France. Gay marriage is legal. And imported champagne likely cheaper. flipao and Alaskabear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted November 18, 2018 Members Share Posted November 18, 2018 Who wouldn't happily get poked with YF vaccine for this FG fellow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members endlessdream Posted November 18, 2018 Author Members Share Posted November 18, 2018 All very interesting. But I still haven’t made my mind if I should get vaccinated before going to Colombia. Deepens how complicated it is in Puerto Vallarta I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pauleiro Posted November 18, 2018 Members Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 hours ago, endlessdream said: All very interesting. But I still haven’t made my mind if I should get vaccinated before going to Colombia. Deepens how complicated it is in Puerto Vallarta I guess. https://www.wfscorp.com/en/resources/alerts/general/yellow-fever-vaccination-requirement-colombia Yellow Fever Vaccination Requirement for Colombia This post will cover yellow fever vaccination requirements and the effects of the virus. Vaccination against yellow fever is now required at least 10 days prior to travelling into Colombia. Five countries in South America have reported yellow fever virus activity. Those countries include Brazil, Bolivia, Peru, Colombia and Ecuador. This multi-country yellow fever virus activity may reflect current, wide-spread ecological conditions that favor elevated yellow fever virus transmission among wildlife and possibly to humans. The analysis of current circulating strains in these countries should provide insight as to whether the human cases in these countries are epidemiologically linked or represent multiple, independent spill-over events without extensive ongoing community transmission. High Risk Areas of Transmission in Colombia The yellow fever vaccination certificate is required by travelers planning to visit the following areas at risk for transmission in Colombia: Amazonas, Caquetá, Casanare, Chocó, Guainía, Guaviare, Meta, Putumayo, Vaupés, Vichada, Santa Marta, Ciénaga y Aracataca Magdalena, Convención, El Carmen, El Tarra, Teorema, Sardinata, Tibú, El Zulia, Hacarí y San Calixto, Norte de Santander, Riosucio, Carmen del Darién, Juradó, Nuquí y Ungía, Chocó y Dabeiba, Mutatá, Turbo y Yondó y Antioquia. Once issued, the Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis is valid for the lifetime of the vaccine. Contraindications A single dose of the yellow fever vaccine is sufficient to provide sustained immunity and life-long protection against yellow fever, and a booster dose of the vaccine is not necessary. Travelers with contraindications for the yellow fever vaccine, or over 60 years of age, should consult with a health professional prior to getting vaccinated. A contraindication is a situation in which the vaccine should not be used in cases where it may be harmful to the patient. Travelers with contraindications can minimize their risk of yellow fever by avoiding mosquito bites. If a contraindication is noted by a health professional, a waiver will be issued. However, issuance of a waiver does not guarantee its acceptance by the destination country. Health professionals must discuss factors for risk benefit analysis, offer measures to avoid mosquito bites, and awareness of the symptoms and signs of yellow fever to patients with contraindications. Below is a list that covers some possible contraindications: Allergy to a vaccine component Age <9 months Pregnant/Breastfeeding Women People with hypersensitivity to egg antigens Symptomatic HIV infection or CD4+ T-lymphocytes <200/mm3 (<15% of total in children aged <6 years) Thymus disorder associated with abnormal immune function Severe immunodeficiency Malignant neoplasms Transplantation Immunosuppressive and immunomodulatory therapies Reactions to Yellow Fever Vaccine Possible reactions to the yellow fever vaccine are mild and may include headaches, muscle aches and a low-grade fever. Severe or life threatening reactions are rare but have been reported. Consult with your health care professional if you experience symptoms that are concerning after being vaccinated. Symptoms and Progression of Yellow Fever The onset of the illness presents itself with flu like symptoms and fever Fatigue Nausea Chills Headache Backache Muscle Pain Vomiting Those affected with yellow fever will improve after the initial onset of the illness. Unfortunately, after a brief remission (hours to a day) the severity of the disease may increase. Approximately 15% of patients progress to a more toxic form of the disease and may experience jaundice, hemorrhagic symptoms, shock and finally multisystem organ failure. The fatality ratio for severe cases that include renal failure is 20%–50%. Treatment There are currently no specific medications for the treatment of yellow fever. Treatment is focused on alleviating symptoms or providing life-saving intervention in severe cases of the disease. Care should be taken to avoid medications that increase the patient’s risk of bleeding. flipao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pauleiro Posted November 18, 2018 Members Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Riobard said: Swipe left to right for increasing freedom and safety ... Guyana is more Caribbean in values. Sodomy law technically remains on the books. Suriname more relaxed but do not expect Netherlands-level openness. No mixing of same-sex surnames. French Guiana law follows that of France. Gay marriage is legal. And imported champagne likely cheaper. I do not know Suriname nor Guyana even though I work with these contries and it is not that easy (bribes, delays, ...) Franch Guyana is part of France (it is a departement). But there are many safety concerns due to immigration from brazil and Suriname and people looking for gold in Amazonia Alaskabear, flipao and Riobard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walker Posted November 19, 2018 Members Share Posted November 19, 2018 Oh no...I am already booked on flight to Bogota in 10 days...OMG... panicking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members endlessdream Posted November 19, 2018 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2018 I just called Copa. They told me it depends on the cities. To city of high risk, it is required. But to cities such as Cartagena, Barranquilla, etc, it is recommended. It depends on the interpretation of the departure airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pauleiro Posted November 20, 2018 Members Share Posted November 20, 2018 I travelled today to French Guiana and it was compulsory to show proof of vaccination to board the plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted November 20, 2018 Members Share Posted November 20, 2018 The requirements for landing in Cayenne are now nothing to sneeze at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
