Olddaddy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 What do you guys suggest for bottoms who like to take/receive it naturally ( without a condom) Obviously Prep is the most important. I have received 2 Hep B vaccination however the latest anti body test revealed anti bodies still under <10 so I had to receive another Hep B shot , hopefully that will bring it up. Hep C I believe is not caused by unsafe sex So that leaves ..... Marc in Calif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Londoner Posted April 12 Popular Post Share Posted April 12 Don't. And as for Hep C, the risk is apparently low but that would be enough for me to insist on a condom. As I always point out when this topic turns-up (annually?), when we engage in unsafe sex, we should be aware of the danger to our partner not just to ourselves. Decades after Hiv/Aids caused such devastation to our community, some still need convincing. TMax, a-447, Pantherz and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Daily prep, regular testing, doxy-pep after exposure if you feel that it was a risk, being smart about the men you engage in sexual activities with, using your eyes during activity to notice anything off putting. Regular bottom for years, no issues. jamiebee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olddaddy Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 Well the risk will be high as they will be sex workers. The doctor recently told me I can take Prep a day before I think he said , I should of wrote it down , but I think he said 2 a day before,then 2 on the day and 2 the day after . Marc in Calif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 32 minutes ago, Olddaddy said: Well the risk will be high as they will be sex workers. The doctor recently told me I can take Prep a day before I think he said , I should of wrote it down , but I think he said 2 a day before,then 2 on the day and 2 the day after . I'd recommend daily prep. If you want to take it on demand, you take 2 pills the first day, followed by 1 the next and 1 more the day after that. Get Doxy-pep then. Take 200mg after exposure. Reduces chance of some STIs. You can also self-medicate using a recommended cycle of antibiotics but your body will probably develop a resistance unless you know what you're doing. Recommended vaccinations include Hep A, Hep B, Monkeypox, HPV, and of course COVID/Flu if you have a weakened immune system and Shingles if you're older. Marc in Calif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinapu Posted April 12 Popular Post Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, roughjock said: I'd recommend daily prep. If you want to take it on demand, you take 2 pills the first day, followed by 1 the next and 1 more the day after that. Get Doxy-pep then. Take 200mg after exposure. Reduces chance of some STIs. You can also self-medicate using a recommended cycle of antibiotics but your body will probably develop a resistance unless you know what you're doing. Recommended vaccinations include Hep A, Hep B, Monkeypox, HPV, and of course COVID/Flu if you have a weakened immune system and Shingles if you're older. so much trouble and ton's of chemicals to avoid small piece of latex, Isn't it killing fun ? Dorothy of Golden Girls fame used to say " our beds are crowded, when we sleep with somebody we sleep with everybody he slept before" TMax, KeepItReal, Pantherz and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olddaddy Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 I wonder if I can get the HPV vaccine in Thailand? Zipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItReal Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 35 minutes ago, vinapu said: so much trouble and ton's of chemicals to avoid small piece of latex, Isn't it killing fun ? Dorothy of Golden Girls fame used to say " our beds are crowded, when we sleep with somebody we sleep with everybody he slept before" Bonus points awarded for citing the Golden Girls! 😉 As that great philosopher, Van Wilder said: "Don't be a fool...wrap your tool!" Daddy415, TMax and Marc in Calif 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Londoner Posted April 12 Popular Post Share Posted April 12 Years ago, I'd always end my encounters with a reminder to my Thai partners to wear a condom and I provided them if needed. Three years ago, a friend of my boyfriend, someone whom I've known for over a decade, forty years-old, a university graduate from a middle-class family and not on the scene, was found to be positive. He was quickly medicated. However, two years ago he was taken seriously ill with a series of ailments, one of which was life-threatening. He was in hospital for months. The doctor told him the symptoms were Hiv related. He's better now, but still suffers distressing after effects from his illness. I've never doubted the importance of safe sex but even I was surprised by what happened to him; after all, there is a belief in some quarters that new medication makes the condition manageable, like diabetes 2. I know now that it remains life-threatening, and probably will continue to be so for many years. Sorry for the homily , but I feel passionately about this. I could relate the story of another Thai friend who was diagnosed in 2007 but it is till too painful for me. For heaven's sake, everybody, take care and if you are enjoying the company of Thais on the commercial scene and be aware of their needs too, remembering that sometimes they are desperate for money. reader, TMax, Pantherz and 9 others 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted April 12 Members Share Posted April 12 26 minutes ago, Londoner said: … Three years ago, a friend of my boyfriend, someone whom I've known for over a decade, forty years-old, a university graduate from a middle-class family and not on the scene, was found to be positive. He was quickly medicated. However, two years ago he was taken seriously ill with a series of ailments, one of which was life-threatening. He was in hospital for months. The doctor told him the symptoms were Hiv related. He's better now, but still suffers distressing after effects from his illness. I've never doubted the importance of safe sex but even I was surprised by what happened to him; after all, there is a belief in some quarters that new medication makes the condition manageable, like diabetes 2. I know now that it remains life-threatening, and probably will continue to be so for many years. Could have been IRIS, the sobering, paradoxical, not uncommon sequelae of HIV drug treatment. Surprisingly not very much on the awareness radar of higher HIV risk-taking populations even though known about for decades. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK567803/#:~:text=Immune reconstitution inflammatory syndrome (IRIS,of IRIS is still unknown. Londoner and vinapu 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItReal Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 20 minutes ago, Londoner said: Years ago, I'd always end my encounters with a reminder to my Thai partners to wear a condom and I provided them if needed. Three years ago, a friend of my boyfriend, someone whom I've known for over a decade, forty years-old, a university graduate from a middle-class family and not on the scene, was found to be positive. He was quickly medicated. However, two years ago he was taken seriously ill with a series of ailments, one of which was life-threatening. He was in hospital for months. The doctor told him the symptoms were Hiv related. He's better now, but still suffers distressing after effects from his illness. I've never doubted the importance of safe sex but even I was surprised by what happened to him; after all, there is a belief in some quarters that new medication makes the condition manageable, like diabetes 2. I know now that it remains life-threatening, and probably will continue to be so for many years. Sorry for the homily , but I feel passionately about this. I could relate the story of another Thai friend who was diagnosed in 2007 but it is till too painful for me. For heaven's sake, everybody, take care and if you are enjoying the company of Thais on the commercial scene and be aware of their needs too, remembering that sometimes they are desperate for money. Like you, I came into adulthood when HIV was a death sentence. Today, there are all kinds of wonderful medications that can help manage the disease. But management isn't a cure - I agree that it is important to remember that and consider your responsibility to your partners. People have short memories - many here may disagree with us, but playing safe is everyone's responsibility - especially now that STD infection rates are rising, almost everywhere and drug resistant strains are showing up routinely. Londoner, Marc in Calif and TMax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, vinapu said: we sleep with everybody he slept before So chances are that we've slept together 😱 vinapu, TMax and reader 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 20 minutes ago, floridarob said: So chances are that we've slept together 😱 scary thought , isn't it ? floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, vinapu said: scary thought , isn't it ? But on that logic, I'm 100% that I've slept with @gayinpattaya before, that's practically incest sleeping with a sister 😫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 12 minutes ago, floridarob said: But on that logic, I'm 100% that I've slept with @gayinpattaya before, that's practically incest sleeping with a sister 😫 I did not know he is a gay ! TMax, reader and floridarob 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, vinapu said: I did not know he is a gay ! not sure if You've ever watched Little Britain, I think of him whenever I see it...here a funny compilation of this skit they do, where he says he's the only gay in the neighborhood..... Daddy415 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 5 hours ago, vinapu said: so much trouble and ton's of chemicals to avoid small piece of latex, Isn't it killing fun ? Not at all. For me, this is a non-issue. None of it is inconvenient and only helps to understand my health better- especially the regular testing. I also find sexual connection much stronger and intimate this way. It’s a night and day difference to me. vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, Olddaddy said: I wonder if I can get the HPV vaccine in Thailand? There are many vaccination clinics in Thailand, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughjock Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Check the app GoWabi, the vaccines aren’t cheap but this app offers discounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 It's a 3 shot series....2nd one 1-2 months after the first and the 3rd 6 months later.... Wonder if that price is all 3 or just one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olddaddy Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 3 hours ago, floridarob said: It's a 3 shot series....2nd one 1-2 months after the first and the 3rd 6 months later.... Wonder if that price is all 3 or just one? Yes it says all 3 doses roughjock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gayinpattaya Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 16 hours ago, floridarob said: not sure if You've ever watched Little Britain, I think of him whenever I see it...here a funny compilation of this skit they do, where he says he's the only gay in the neighborhood..... Actually, growing up I always thought I was the only gay in the village. Then my brother happened. floridarob and vinapu 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Joking apart, those of us who suffered adolescence in denial and fear can understand the poignancy of this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipper Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2024 at 9:58 AM, Olddaddy said: I wonder if I can get the HPV vaccine in Thailand? Here’s a list of vaccines you can get at the Thai Travel Clinic https://www.thaitravelclinic.com/cost.html Olddaddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2024 at 4:47 AM, Olddaddy said: What do you guys suggest for bottoms who like to take/receive it naturally ( without a condom) keeping will updated won't hurt reader, TMax and KeepItReal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
