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Ok so I’ve been asked to report back on the one if I visit, however I thought I would report on what I did so far, and since I’m now resting after a long day sight seeing i have some time. This will include tourist activities so I’m sorry if that doesn’t interest you but the reports that included those helped me a lot as well. background on me. I am very late 30’s from North America. I have really only travelled in North America (Canada/USA/Mexico) before with Mexico being one of my favourite destinations (maybe now to be superseded by Thailand ) I arrived last Monday, I got to my hotel, Furama Silom. I choose this hotel based on many, many reviews I have read on this forum. I originally booked a different hotel closer to the bars but I realized it didn’t have a pool so I cancelled and book Directly with Furama for a great deal. So far there has been no issues with bringing back guests. I have the lounge access and I was even able to bring my tour guide to refresh after our tour and get some more information about the city before our time was up. Monday night I decided to go for a walk, I walked by the nine boys massage place and they asked if I wanted massage I said sure, so far this was the best room as it had a bed with a head cradle. I prefer this to just a pillow. The massage was not very good though. After we turned over he asked if I wanted happy for 1000 baht, my first night so I agreed, then he asked another 500 to take his clothes off.. I said sure but nothing happened besides hj. I showered alone at the end.. likely won’t revisit. Tuesday early morning I was browsing Grindr and I chatted with a guy who later told me he was a MB this didn’t bother me, I asked for rates and we agreed to massage+fun. He arrived. I had a decent massage and the fun was great. We had a bit of conversation, showered together then he left. I had a tour booked with Mac from siamroads. There has been some controversy on this forum regarding the owner, however Mac has had rave reviews so I didn’t let that stop me booking him. He was a bit difficult to get a hold of because his phone had broke. However we messaged by email. On the morning it downpoured and Mac got stuck but he messaged me to let me know he was running late, which was fine for me as I was still a bit tired, he arrived and we set out on the tour we planned. He showed me how to use skytrain, the boat transit, we visited the reclining Buddha, he has great knowledge on Thai culture and history and of the Buddhist religion. We visited south Bangkok to tour some local markets. He showed me the flower market. We also went for lunch and I ordered a lot, he felt bad at the cost but I told him not to worry it’s my first time and I want to experience some new things. It seems like he wants to minimize cost for his clients which is great. The food was delicious btw. On return he showed me the area around my hotel, where I could eat, and some things to see, then we chatted about when Bangkok become the capital etc. I felt like I learned a lot and would definitely recommend him to anyone in the future. i was tired this day so I went to bed early. next day I decided I wanted to goto thong plaza, as well as platinum mall and the markets down there. However first I thought I would try one of the massage shops at Saphan Kwai. I decided on 15m I messaged them on line and asked for more information on three guys, I chose one and was on my way, I decided to use taxi as I was still only comfortable going short distances with skytrain. I arrived and the guy I chose was waiting, his picture on line was likely from when he was much younger, I paid the fee he showed me to the massage room. Massage was not that great, not sure if I should expert more, the fun after was not great as well. He had difficulty getting up. Then when he did, it was over just as fast, I definitely did not enjoy this experience and after showing left unhappy, I likely will not return. I did some shopping at the two malls I mentioned, it started to rain so I got myself a manicure to wait it out then I headed back to my hotel. Furama is very close to arena massage now I was a bit nervous going here as I didn’t know what to expect with all the guys lining up looking at you expecting you to choose one leaving everyone else disappointed. However I did pick one. I did get upsold for the vip room, I was worried if this place was so old what would I get with a regular room. I liked that the tip is laid out in advance and it seems like everyone knows what they are there for. VIP room had queen sized mattress, water, private shower stall. I only chose 60 minute massage, I felt like the guy did a great job he hit everywhere I was expecting. Had fun after massage, was not rushed and we showered together. Unfortunately I forgot his name. I returned to my hotel to rest. next day I did safari world, I’ve never did anything like this before and just wanted to experience it. I really enjoyed it. I doubt the shows would be approved by peta but I had fun, I also did some of the extras like feeding tigers, hippos and took some pictures with the animals. I got back late I really didn’t want to leave my hotel room. So I hopped on Grindr and hired a guy off there, massage was more mechanical nothing really to it. However he was an expert at the fun part. After we showered together I went to bed exhausted from a long day. next day I did some more sight seeing. I went to centralworld, I walked around the city a bit to see some of the shops and sights. I took the skytrain back and since it was on the way I stopped at arena massage again. This time I decided to go for longer time, 90 minutes, the boy I was with last time was there again and seemed excited to see me, I felt bad cause I wanted to try something new. This was what I was afraid of with these lineups. I choose a guy but then quickly the papasan said nonono he can’t he has booking. I think he should have had him sit out the lineup at the beginning. So once again I choose. A different guy.this guy was very good massage was excellent, since I did 90 minutes I believe he had more time to spend massaging, he was much better than the first guy, we had a lot of fun, his name was Chai and I would recommend him. We talked a little bit after we showered and he told me I should try four hands next time and gave some explicit gestures on what we could do. The thought crossed my mind but on the advise from here have having first guy you pick find the second guy who they can work with.. what if you don’t like second guy.. then have to turn down. next day I hung around the pool a bit. I took water taxi/shuttle to icon Siam. Was only 10 baht. When I got back I decided I would venture out to the patpong night market area and maybe goto one of the bars, I had an idea on what to expect based on this forum but was still nervous. I decided to walk down as google maps said it was only 15 minutes I walked through the night market then the alley with some of the bars, the promoters are trying to get you inside. I did not find them to be aggressive or overbearing a simple no thanks, and they where onto the next guy, I walked the entire alley discovering this alley contained both gay and straight bars, I walked back down not sure where to go however fresh boys show was going to start in 15 minutes at 10:30 so I decided on that, this was Saturday night. They tried to seat me front row in the middle. I asked to sit in the back which wasn’t a problem. I arrived 10;15 pm there was about 7-8 other guys when I got there, however before the show started the room started to fill up. Mostly Chinese, Indian tourists. Only one other white guy besides myself, 2-3 more joins later in the evening, on stage was 15-20 guys wearing no shirts and white fresh boys shorts. When the light hits right you can see their white briefs underneath, they stood on stage changing position every few seconds. They were mostly younger with a couple older guys. When the show started most of the boys left to go outside, some went to the back to get ready to perform, while some sat down on the couch by the stage busy on their cellphones. The show wasn’t bad, they had a couple drag queens perform. One drag queen performed oral on two of the guys. They had a shower show where they soaped up each other and simulated penetration with actual oral. Then they had the cock show where the guys came out and banged their cocks against a pole after this they came into the audience, the mamasan told everyone “you can touch, you can suck” the guy who I was eying came over with his cock out, I played with it a little and tipped him 100 baht, once the guys saw I tipped they all started to come to me. Then I had ended tipping four of them. After the show the guys got back on stage. i asked the mamasan if the guy I was interested spoke any English. She said his English was very bad, so I asked if I could buy him a drink. She called out his number and he came out, had had been smiling at me all night, when he sat down he asked me the basic questions mentioned on this forum, where are you from? How long you visit? Etc. I cuddled with him a bit and asked him some questions like his position, has it been busy. Etc his English was more than adequate translator app not needed, I asked him his rate he told him 2500 I probably could have haggled. However i didn’t want to bother. I agreed. I asked him if he had to wait until after last show, cause he was part of the cock show, he said yes, however he misunderstood me cause a minute later he asked if I wanted to go now and I said yes. He called mamasan over to collect fees, while he went to get changed, he was from Cambodia. I said I wanted to take taxi as I didn’t feel like walking back. We got back to my hotel room, not an eye batted that I was brining someone back, he took a shower. We had some fun, a lot of fun. He was well equipped and was actually engaged and seemed to be enjoying himself as well, which is a big turn on for me, after we took a shower together, this is when I asked him if he had any friends in the club that he did threesomes with. He said he did. I told him if I was at the bar tomorrow maybe I would be interested, I laid the fee, with a little extra, then he left for the night. the next day, Sunday I was very tired from the night before as I woke up very early, I did some more sight seeing, I got back to my hotel room around 5 pm and was tired I ended up napping until 8. When I woke up I was deciding whether or not I wanted to goto the bars, I decided I should. I had a shower then headed out. This time I walked the alley again, then back out, to another small dead end alley with banana room. I didn’t go in looked interesting. I walked bit further around the block and I found moonlight and then I noticed the other bars under fresh boys. Goodboys. The promoters of these bars seemed less interested in calling you in. When I was in the alley with moonlight no one called over to me, I was wearing black shorts and a black tshirt maybe I wasn’t dressed well enough? Same for dream boys not a single promoter asked me to come inside, I was getting warm and decided to go into a bar to cooldown from the heat. I thought I saw a bar where the show started at 9:45 but I couldn’t find that board tonight, maybe only Saturday? So I ended up going to hot male. This place felt smaller than fresh boys. Again there was mostly only Asian tourists and a few Indian tourists as well, the boys where all on stage however this time they just stood there, no movement to change position. They smiled at you, grabbed their crotches, they were wearing white tank tops with red long pants, some shirtless. A couple guys interested me,but they didn’t seem interested in me, so why bother? Another white guy came in. He bought a couple bottles they seemed to know him there. 5-8 of the guys went to join him and enjoy drinks. I felt like the room was too brightly lit. I preferred the dark seats of fresh boys. the show started, it consisted of some strip dancing, cock shows, then big cock show, one guy had a very large cock and he stayed hard without using their makeshift cock rings, they did come out with weird costumes for this, I wasn’t interested in anyone so when they came around for tips I just said no thanks, the show ended I paid my tab and left, then I decided to head over to fresh boys. at fresh boys they where just finishing the show with the cock parade where they use their cocks to hit the pole. I sat down. After the guy from the night before saw me he waved to me and smiled, then after he out his shirts back on for the lineup he came over to me to say hi, I tipped him 100 and he rejoined the lineup. His buddy was standing next to him in the lineup and pointing to the both of them trying to get me to pick both, I was unsure, his buddy was trying very hard, even playing with the guys cock through his shorts on stage. It was getting late and I didn’t really want to make the guy I was interested wait longer so I asked one of the waiters to have him come sit with me and I will buy drink, I asked is he your friend who does threesome he said yes but he told me another number who fucks better. I said ok let’s see. The other one came around on stage however I wasn’t interested in him even tho he definitely was trying to attract my attention, I told my guy I’m not really interested. He asked who I liked, I told him I liked him the best, he was happy and asked if I was gonna take him tonight, I said yes. I didn’t want to put the guys on stage through anymore torture so I asked to pay bill while he changed. we took Tuktuk back to hotel, I had great time he was even better second time, usually I find that’s not the case, he really worked hard to ensure I was satisfied. We later in bed after finishing and talked a bit, I asked him maybe you have verse guy I can watch first then we can all play. He said he did have friend even better he thinks I will like. I said maybe next time I go I can see. He told me about some sights I should visit. I know this is transactional but I felt like he actually was happy to be with me and this matters the most to me. i will definitely off him again.. maybe with a friend… who knows. Tonight I will try to find the one bar and see how that is. I may end up going to good boys tonight as well. Depending oh one thing I should mention at fresh boys and hotmale both give you back 50 baht in your change as coins, likely so you will leave that as a tip, which they got me and I did. I will add to this post tomorrow.

Day 1 He was losing the battle. Talking to him daily by video call on WhatsApp for last 3 weeks I could see him getting weaker and weaker and our talk was shorter and shorter. Even if he kept his mental faculties intact he was losing strength inch by inch. His last words I heard were ‘ thank you ‘ presumably unfinished ‘ thank you for a call “ . And then next morning message from wife “ he left us last night”. Even if I’m quarter of world away I knew that I need attend his funeral , simply because I felt I owe it to him and his family I was so close to for that last 44 years. Fact that we were the same age , to a month, was kind of warning signal ‘ you are somewhere in the line man”. Is not easy to get last minute decent prized flight but Guardian Angel was on my side I found one although requiring stay there over one week past funeral date, option I was not keen on for few reasons. Then moment of enlightenment came ‘ see if you can find something to Bangkok for that week”. After all I was to be half way there already. An hour later I had a ticket for some obscure airlines, Pegasus and Air Arabia, carry on up to 6 kg and food for purchase only but price was right. And since I travel light anyways it was not obstacle. That way instead of January of 2027 or perhaps even 2029 I found myself landing in Swampy mid Nov of 2024 via Istanbul and Sharjah. For those who are curious about those dates -my August trip was partially disappointing and I did not have any immediate plans to return any time soon as result. But lets be honest , if one is stressed and want to get away from it all while looking for calm and consolation there’s no better place than Bangkok urban jungle , at least not for me. Arrival at 4.30 pm was very convenient, immigration was a breeze, weather quite pleasant and rates in the exchange kiosks by the train station quite digestible. It was already darkening when I walked from Sala Daeng to Red Planet, my hotel for first 2 nights. Budget option but recent price raises of BKK hotels were substantial so I decided to look for cheaper options this time. Room was on smaller side but had all amenities one needs, AC and safety deposit box were working , everything was clean and bathroom was of proper size, one can say almost as big as room itself. Only thing in short supply is place to hang your stuff , only 3 hangers provided but since I travel light , I managed anyways. Best thing about Red Planet is discretion. Reception is on 2nd floor so it means when coming to the room alone or with somebody one bypasses it entirely, the same like in Raya. No breakfast provided but on ground floor facing street there’s 7/11 and walk to Foodland is not that long. At 9 to Foodland to eat something , soon reader showed up since I reported to him my arrival from the train . After sharing news we parted ways and I went to Hot Male but S was sitting with somebody who looked is serious about offing him but was nice enough to allow him to come and shake hands. Seeing that I don’t source any consolation there after finishing my beer I went to Jupiter , at mouth of soi enthusiastically greeted by Guido, owner of G’Bangkok restaurant and both barkers from Banana across the soi. At Jupiter I wanted to check one guy strongly recommended to me by one of our members and I spotted him immediately , impressive indeed and 127.48 % of my type. Soon there was walkabout so I gave him red note but during second walk he did not even look at my side so I abandoned an idea of approaching him tonight. I have my rules but it needs to be said , he impressed me indeed so no hard feelings. Modern technology helped as my phone buzzed. Hoping it was S I went to bathroom and indeed it was him saying he is free already. Soon we met in Foodland and after a meal we walked to Red Planet. On corner of soi 6 K from Tawan eyed me and asked for a tip so I gave red note to him resolving at the same time to skip that bar this trip entirely. S is rock sold quality and performance so indeed he was somebody I needed to be with after such sad last several days. He noticed I’m in different mood and tried to be as romantic and gentle as he could and it worked. This trip started well, very well I’d say.

What a delightful surprise when I wandered into the new club called Atlas in Patong Soi 2 last night. Big spacious bar, well lit stage right in the center, everything modern and comfortable. And there on the stage were all of the boys from The One / Tawan. They have all quit The One, and are now working at Atlas, which just opened a few days ago. The bar is owned by Arthur, who long time Tawan patrons will remember as the big mixed Black/Asian bodybuilder from Tawan days. As frequent visitors will know, The One never regained the atmosphere of Tawan; it became stale and less inviting, and the show was tame and uninteresting. By contrast, Atlas last night was fun, lively and uninhibited. At least 25 guys, all the top talent from Tawan plus a few new faces. All muscular and fit, if not necessarily lean. These are big muscular men. None of the older fat guys that had come to haunt Taiwan a few years ago were in sight. Fortunately, those days seem to be behind us. The show is back to being hard core and explicit, with lots of audience interaction. Sound and lighting are top notch. The show could have been a little longer, but they just opened a few days ago. I go there to have fun in the bar, not necessarily looking for an off. The guys were friendly, affectionate, and uninhibited. I don’t drink much but I opened a bottle to help them celebrate. I was soon surrounded by guys who, for a tip, were happy to take off their pants and sit with me and drink naked. I’m a bit of a voyeur, so after the show I convinced several of them to also do their rotations on stage stark naked. What a treat. Service was excellent. Arthur seems to be a very competent manager. No admission charge. Drinks were 500 baht, which is steep but worth it to me given the environment. All in all, highly recommended. I hope they can make it a success.

Last night, I sat in my favorite haunt with J., my regular boy, whom I have been taken off almost every day whenever I'm in Pattaya since last Dec (1-year anniversary coming up). As usual, I asked him to pick a friend to sit with us. J., from Laos, called T., another Laos boy, over. He said "Although we are not close, I want to help him. I hardly ever saw he had customers. " T. is slim, not bad looking but quiet and reserved in manner (kinda out of place in this kind of bar), and on the older side in terms of barboy age (28). We talked and he indeed had few customers. Been working here for nearly two months, only 4 off so far, not so many drinks either, so he barely made it. While we were chatting, a customer, who was sitting alone at the next table, looked on with interest. Then he asked me in English if T. is also working in the bar, probably because he was fully dressed while all other boys (including my own) were shirtless. Feeling an opportunity is presenting itself, I confirmed and asked if he wanted to sit with the boy, explaining that although T. was sitting with us, I'm more than glad to let him switch tables. The guy appeared he wasn't sure what to do, saying that he's pretty new to the scene and still trying to figure out how things work. So T. remained at our table but the customer joined in the conversation on a translation-chain basis, meaning he said something to me in English, I Google-translated into Laos then showed it to J. who in turns repeated to T. It went like that for a while, and all of a sudden, the customer said loudly, to no one in particular, "It would be better if he takes off his shirt". When that idea finally reached T. down the translation line, he still looked sort of uncertain about what to do. It was time something needs to be done to speed things up. So I stood up, marched over to T., who was sitting across the table, and took off his shirt with my hands. Then I chaperoned both him and his drink to the next table, and gently pushed him down next to the customer. Now T. can communicate directly with the customer using google translation. Things started going smoother and the customer ordered two more drinks for himself and T. The customer is Dutch but lives in Spain. He said he is quite reserved himself so has great affinity for a shy boy like T., who, in the customer's words, obviously was not self-aware of how handsome he is. The customer himself is not bad-looking either, and J. confirmed he checked off several things on a bar boy's list "neat-looking, polite, no body odor, not too old, not too fat." "I'm not gonna take advantage of the boy the first time we talk. I can't promise that the next time though." He said. Gentlemanly conduct, but me think "Please. He's ready to be taken advantage of. That's why he's working here". Then I noticed there was still some (physical) distance between T. and the customer, who sat ramrod straight. I told J., who told T. to get closer. Since T. still didn't look like he knows what to do, I gestured for him to follow my lead: I nudged closer to J., hugged him, rested my head lightly on his shoulder, and placed a peck on his cheek. T., albeit a bit haltingly, followed suit, down to the pecking part. The customer, obviously seeing the whole thing, looked both amused and happy. He declared "I've been here for only three days and I'm already in love!" Again, I told J., who reminded T. to ask for the customer's contact. They later parted ways with what looks like a big tip for T. and the promise by the customer that he will come back and talk to the boy again tomorrow. I believe, he, being such a gentleman, will keep his word. I also believe I would make a good Mamasan in case I need a side job. To end on a warm note: late into the night, after J. went back to his room, I came back to the bar to watch the soi winding down. I looked inside and saw T., now totally shirtless, dancing energetically with other boys, smiling broadly when he saw me. He seemed to get that confidence boost he needed. Then I sat at the bar outside, chatted with the bartender and watched people. Somehow I might look a bit lonely and sad, to the point that another gentleman, who'd obviously mistaken me for someone in need of a customer, came to give me a hug upon leaving the bar and whispered in my ear "Don't be too shy. Things will get better!"

hi guys.. i am ash.. from INDIA. This is my 4th visit to pattaya and 1st time i came alone here to explore more naughty things. I reached BKK airport at 9.30am on 25th october. as there is no visa policy for INDIANS just done direct immigration and came out. Grab taxi cost me 1500 thai baht to pattaya Sunshine hotel. Sunshine hotel is cheap( 750 babt per day for total 4 days) and best for solo travel. They given me room at 2pm afternoon even though check in time is at 3pm. 25-10-2024 Day 1 - I went to Helios men .. the best for me {[( 2017 i went once , 2019 i went once , then 2023 march i went once)]} helios never disappointed me. I always take foam massage because massage less fun part more. the boys here are very co-operative massage cost - 600 min tip to boy -- 1000 I met the guy name Tree. he is medium to gym build. I dont like six packs or heavy built guys.he is best he told me to take shower and left for 2-3min , after shower he came and given back rub and we did alot of fun.. kissing hugging i did massage to him as well ofcourse he did massage to me.. 69 we did.. i fucked him little because just fucking is not my cup of tea i like passionate romance alot. I am versa top ( sorry if someone felt bad that i explained little more about what happened at Helios. I paid him extra 1000baht to him because he did his best. I took his whatsapp number and asked him to come with me for Xboys night 10pm and 11pm show because i never went to any gogoboys bar. he came at 9.30pm and we went inside Xboyz. Xboyz show was mind blowing.. full of cocks. I thought to take back the same massage guy who i met helios thats the reason i told him to come with me. Xboys pattaya at 9.50pm show cost - 300baht including drink I like 1 guy age 25yrs and finally talked to someguy who is operating this show.. initially told 800 is off fee and boy told 2800 his fees. then i told no. but operating guy finally told to take the guy for total 2500 without off fees or 500 off fees and 2000 for Short time(ST) both are same haha. I offered 2 drinks for him.. he is very co-operative.. and operating guy took my hand from boys shoulder and told me to catch boys cock.. and i did that he is very comfortable and rest his head on my shoulder. The guy name tree who came with me since 9.45pm he is just laughing with me as i ditched him and taking back new guy in positive way. I told Mr. tree guy clearly .. if i dont like anyone then u come to my room i pay 1500 baht as u fixed the price if not i will take u to my room some day in 4 days visit here for sure. Mr.tree is co-operative and helped me to talk with boy and decrease the money by bargain as well. finally i given Mr-Tree 500 baht and 300 drink for him and he is happy too. Me and the new boy from Xboyz went to my hotel room and enjoyed under hot shower. he is very soft and medium tight body. I licked his entire body all parts almost did romance for 1hr 30min. i went to Indian restaurant and ate he left after the fun. He is top and i am too so except fuck we did everything. Xboys pattaya show is the best full of nudity and timepass. I loved it. at 3.30am i slept till next day 11am. If this content helpful and to give some suggestions plz do comment and will continue my rest of journey for 4 days.

This happened one month ago in May. My 3rd trip to Bangkok this year in fact. I normally spend 1 to 2 weeks on holiday in Bangkok at end of year but this year I started taking shorter trips in other months. The first trip was a weekend in February. I went to celebrate friend's birthday. As I could pack light, I didn't take taxi but instead took airport train to Silom on Friday evening. I stayed at new Hotel Nishitestsu Croom until Sunday. My regular guy was back in Vietnam to celebrate Tet so I met another guy for both nights. They know each other casually. Saturday night was dinner gathering with some favourite forum members at G's. We even took a nice group photo. After that was a trip together to Atlas before we split up to Freshboys and Hot Male. Eventually we met at Foodland again for supper before going back happily with our guys. Second trip was documented in this trip report. Now to 3rd trip. This was a special trip to celebrate 50th birthday. I took 4pm Singapore Airlines flight from Singapore and arrived 2 hours later. Like the first weekend trip in February, I packed light. I took airport train. Once I reached Sala Daeng BTS, I walked to Ibis Styles Hotel. First time staying at this hotel. Small room but clean and functional. I chose it for the rooftop pool. I had booked it for 3 nights late last year. After checking in, I crossed Silom Road to go to Adam Massage for booking at 8pm. Thoroughly refreshed, I went to Foodland Patpong supermarket to get a birthday cake. At 9.30pm, I entered Freshboys. Mamasan was happy to see me back. Lots of seats available as only about 5 other customers at that early time. I took front row seats facing the stage. Two waiters prepared the birthday cake on the table. 50 candles. My regular guy joined me and sat next to me. I also invited 4 other guys down from the stage. I bought drinks for all of them. Once candles were ready, my regular guy and I lighted them. The DJ played Happy Birthday song - the hilarous and fun Thai version. I cut the cake and we ate while catching up. I told mamasan I would pay off fees for my regular guy for 3 nights. Once we finished eating the cake, I settled my bill. I tucked 200 baht each into the front of the shorts of the guys seated with me. One of them cheekily pulled his shorts wide open for me to tuck the notes in! I also tipped mamasan and waiters. I said goodbye to them and I will see them again. It was not even 10pm but I was out of Freshboys, happy with the person I had come to Bangkok to celebrate my birthday with.

Left Bangkok last week for my twenty second year (have long forgotten how many individual trips but they must be closing in on 60). There we’re two things that stand out. First, was the opening of the first new gay bar in quite a while with the Dragon and Koi on Patpong 2. I believe it’s destined to do well, judging by the reception it’s energetic dancers have been receiving. Second, it’s the evolution of the massage business in Saphan Kwai. Although most of the shops are continuing to do wel due to the Continued arrival of newcomers, it’s the opening of Phoenix on Soi Inthamara 25 that stablished itself as unique. It’s all in, full service approach is superior to the competition because it eliminates the haggling. Eventually, I think, other shops will have to adopt the same policy or see their trade stagnate. One of my favorite moments each evening was opening the balcony doors and at about 1a.m. and listening to the muffled sounds of the workers collapsing the vendors stands on Patpong. My favorite view at sunset looking toward the river. Departure next morning from BKK wss nearly effortless, using the new immigration gate system. First one checks passport and second gate your photo .

I took a 3-month trip this year across 11 countries and 23 cities in Australia, India and South-east Asia. My first time in all of them. And while the focus of my trip was scuba diving, attending religious festivals, seeing friends, hiking, sightseeing, food, etc., I was very eager to experience the boys in Thailand. Especially after reading this forum for the past couple of years. Admittedly, I met a lot of boys in all of the countries. But they were typical Grindr/Sniffies/HeeSay hookups. Thailand’s massage boys and go-go boys were something new. I typically don’t pay for sex, but am occasionally fine with it if it adds novelty and variety to my sex life. BANGKOK HOTEL - I stayed at the Grande Centre Point Surawong Bangkok. A highly-rated 5-star hotel near Silom 6 (a hub of gay massage boys and go-go boys). It’s a beautiful property and I’d recommend it to anyone. DAY 1 - I arrived around 10:00 p.m. It was a long travel day and so I decided to get some sleep and get an early start in the morning. But my brain didn’t cooperate. Even after taking one, then two, CBD sleeping gummies (which typically knock me out in 20 minutes), I laid wide awake in bed for hours. I got out of bed at 2 AM and decided maybe cumming would help. I considered jacking off. But thought, “Hey…I’m here for the boys…let’s see who’s on Grindr”. I quickly found a hot guy who was close by. A money boy. He asked for 2000 baht ($60) and I accepted. I was excited for my first Thai boy. When he came over I asked him where he was from. He said Loas. The in-person chemistry wasn’t fantastic for me, but I just wanted to cum and sleep. So I fucked him and passed out. DAY 2 - After meeting a friend from India for lunch and doing some sightseeing, I was excited for my first massage boy experience. I decided to go to Silom 6 after reading all of your posts. It seemed to have the highest concentration of massage boys. I sat in a lot of traffic getting to lunch, so I decided to try the metro. It was fast and easy. Highly recommend. Much better than the roads. Just as described in other posts, I searched for 9-teen Massage Silom-6 on Google Maps and it didn’t take long to find. There is a black and white 9-teen Massage sign you can see from Si Lom Road. I got there around 4 PM and there were multiple massage parlors on Silom 6 alley-street. Each with about a dozen boys dressed in black sitting in front of the door. I slowly walked passed each cluster of boys, deciding which boy I was most attracted to. In the end, it was a cute, fit twink from a place called Paradise Spa. The 60-minute oil massage was 895 baht ($28). We went up a few flights of stairs and he invited me to take a shower in the shower next to the massage table. The place was nice. When he came back, he wanted to start the massage but I asked if he could get naked first. He said, “you help me, I help you, $1500 baht ($45).” I agreed. He got naked. Gorgeous guy. Average-sized cock. I asked him where he was from. He said Laos. I wondered if I would ever meet a Thai boy in Thailand. Haha. The massage was fantastic. While he was working on my back, he poured massage oil directly on my asshole again and again and again and again. My ass was drowning in it. Hahaha. I’m sure he was just lubing up the runway, but, unfortunately, I’m a top. When it got to the fun part, I asked him if he is gay. He is not and is only a top. So we just kissed a little, sucked a little, and jacked off. I was happy with the experience…but learned (as many of you have suggested) that if I want to fuck a boy, ask if they are gay or agree to it before selecting them. I walked back to the hotel to rest for a bit and shower before coming back to Silom for a night of go-go boys. Because my time in Bangkok was limited, I spent an hour re-readingd many of your posts to see how to make the most of one night and went early to check the places out. I started with Moonlight. I was the first customer of the night. All of the boys quickly stood at attention when I walked in. Haha. The entry fee was 500 baht ($15). I sat down, ordered a drink (all drinks 400 baht whether water, beer, or cocktail) and looked at the 20-or-so boys rotating on stage, all wearing white shirts. After 10 minutes, I told the mamasan which one I liked. He came over. We started talking. I asked him where he was from and he said…Laos! LOLOL. I couldn’t break my streak. I ordered him a drink and we talked for a bit. No real chemistry for me. I went to pay for the drinks and told them this was my first night out in Thailand and I was going to see some of the other bars and I’d be back. They said the show would start and 10:45. I said I’d come back for that. I then went to Good Boys and was also the first customer of the night. A much smaller place, smaller stage. Not as nice, but I was attracted to more of the 20-or-so boys. All shirtless. I pointed to my favorite. He came over. He said his name was Lucas and he was from Myanmar. Gorgeous guy. Huge smile. Super skinny. Kind of giggly. It was fun to put my arm around his tight, shirtless torso as we talked. I got a little hard. I definitely liked this guy. I bought us each a couple of drinks and then told the mamasan I was bar hopping and would be back. He told me the show time. I told her I would return. Next, Fresh Boys, just above Good Boys. I went through the same motions…picking a boy, buying us drinks. This time I bought one for the mamasan. And at this point I was feeling a little drunk. I found out the show times and definitely wanted to be back for this show since their show was cocks-out. For the next four hours I bounced between Hotmale, DreamBoy, Moonlight, Good Boys and Fresh Boys meeting as many boys and seeing as many shows as I could. Here is the summary: I didn’t meet one Thai boy the whole night. Haha. All the boys were from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Malaysia and Vietnam. At least the ones I picked. The Moonlight show was boring as fuck. I left early. The Good Boys show was regular drag show. You can see that anywhere. The Fresh Boys show was my favorite in Bangkok. Cocks out and somewhat playful. Most of them wore condoms, both during the show and when they walked around to get touched and tipped by customers. I only touched one cock without a condom. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and look forward to trying some new places next time. At the end of the night, I went back to Good Boys and paid the 500 baht ($15) off fee for Lucas. He was with another customer when arrived at 1:30 AM and I waited for 15 minutes for him to break away. He said he thought I wasn’t coming back. I told him he was my favorite boy of the night, by far. We agreed on a 2500 baht ($75) tip. He got dressed and we took a 4 minute tuk tuk ride to the hotel. He didn’t bottom, but I was fine with it. He was gorgeous. Fun to talk to. Playful. Open minded. Cute hard cock. We both showered and then got into a rhythm of playing for a while then talking for a while. I asked him if he liked the work. He said 5/10. Depends on the night. He told me he usually gets offed by 10 guys a month. Between that and tips at the bar, he earns $1500-$1800 per month. Alternative jobs would pay $300-$400 per month. His friend and former roommate is only offed by 4 guys per month. We finished by cumming in each other’s mouths, exchanging numbers and then Lucas told me his real name. I went to sleep happy. DAY 3 - My plan was to do a day trip to Pattaya and come back to Bangkok late evening. But I decided to read a bit on this forum just to refresh myself on how to approach everything and I realized it was a bad plan. All the fun in Pattaya happens between 10 PM and 3 AM, and it’s a 2 hour ride back. So I booked a hotel in Pattaya for the night. PATTAYA HOTEL - I decided to stay near Jomtien complex and chose the Poseidon Boutique Hotel. It was a great stay. Super sweet staff. Cheap. Nice room. Very affordable mini bar. My only suggestion would be to add a foam topper to the beds…but I could say that about 70% of the hotels I stay in. I walked around the Jomtien complex multiple times…looking for a massage boy I liked. Sadly, I didn’t like any. So I directed my focus to the evening. Like Bangkok, I wanted to get an early start to get a lay of the land. I hopped in a GrabCar and walked around the Boy Town area for a while. I saw all the straight bars and clubs along Beach Road and Walking Street. And then I walked to Nice Boys. As has been mentioned here, nice Boys no longer exists. It has been replaced by “Boys Nighclub”. I’m sure they meant Boys Nightclub, but that is how it is spelled on both of the signs. As of this posting, you can still find the location by searching for Nice Boys on Google maps. Most importantly, the format has changed. This was my experience… When I walked in at 8:00 PM the mamasan welcomed me and I ordered a drink. There were 5 guys on stage. I would describe all of them as rough looking. She explained the format and from what I understood I could pick the guy I wanted to cum and pay 500 baht ($15) each. I picked 3 out of the 5. I was confused when all three started to masturbate…but only one was jacking off in earnest. Eventually the two others stopped. Finally the first one came and then I understood it was a cum contest…only the winner got the 500 baht. Because the place was a bit seedy and the guys were rough, I was ready to pay for my drinks and leave. The mamasan assured me many more boys would be there at 9:00. I told her I’d be back. I then went to some of the other go-go spots in Boy Town. Toy Boy had the most boys I was attracted to. And I decided I would come back to make my final selections there. I bounced back to the Nice Boys / “Boys Nighclub” for one last look. The mamasan was right. There were now about a dozen boys now and two of them were smoking hot. Sadly, they were occupied by other guests. The hottest one by far, model material, sat to my left. He was jacking off behind a pillow, he didn’t want the other go-go boys to see (but I could), and he had a huge asian cock. Gorgeous cock. The guest would fondle his cock and balls behind the pillow…then the boy would get back to masturbating. The guest to my right had two boys jacking off and this is how his night went. The boy on the left would cum and he’d slurp it up and order a new boy. Then the boy on the right would cum and he’d slurp it up and order a new boy. For him, at 500 baht ($15) per cum shot, he could suck cum off their cocks all night like it was an all-you-can-swallow buffet. He didn’t stop the whole time I was there. I ordered my own boy. He was cute enough and had a nick dick. He quickly opened some straight porn and went to work. I was a touch drunk and lost some inhibitions at this point. Haha. I sucked him 3 times and when he came I thought “what the hell”, and slurped up his cum like the guest on my right. The more the merrier. I decided to wait to see if the hot boy to my left would eventually get free. I saw him cum earlier and thought he’d go back on stage. But the guest had his hand on his leg and wasn’t letting him go. I don’t know what arrangement they had. I waited and waited. Eventually the boy looked my way and we locked eyes. The dead look in his eyes was as if his soul left his body months or years earlier. And I decided to leave. X-BOYS - When I first walked in, about 9:45, there was a skinny, 75-year old American wearing a long-sleeved, khaki, Boy Scout shirt being lifted at the waist and twirled around by a muscled go-go boy. The man was in heaven. His eyes closed behind his glasses. Smiling. Ever so lightly caressing the boy’s back as he was spun round and round. After a while the boy set him down, he tipped him, and then he chose another willing muscle boy to give him another ride. We all have our thing. And then it was time for the show. OMGGGG! X-Boys was of the highlights of my trip, for sure. THANK YOU to everyone on this site who recommended it. I was there for both shows, the 10:00 and 11:00. And it was everything you said it would be. Rape scene, two shower scenes, orgy scene, mini-golf contest, fuck scene, eyes-wide-shut scene, hard cock scene, breakdancing, so many more…it was so well conceived and performed. It was Erotic. Beautiful. Fascinating. I didn’t want it to end. I was worried that if I pulled a boy down from the stage to sit with me it would mean he wasn’t in the show, and I was right. So I tipped, tipped, tipped the performers the whole night. Two of the drink-boys sat with me through the shows. A younger one by invitation and one in his mid-30s by self-invite. Haha. I bought both of them drinks, the mamasan drinks, a couple of the performers drinks and myself a few drinks. I was in heaven. I was kissing both drink-boys. Making out with the younger one whenever I could. Fantastic kisser. Both of them played with my hard cock (through my shorts) during the show. I regretted wearing underwear. I’m sure they would have put their hands down my pants if I invited them to. I should have. My drink tab was 3200 baht ($100) and it was money well spent. I felt so bad…the place was only 1/3 full for both shows and I wanted to do whatever I could to support them. During the fuck show the boys walked into the audience…while fucking…soliciting tips. I had already tipped both of them. When they came to me, I pulled down the jock strap of the bottom and felt his dick and then I felt the hard wrapped cock in his ass as they were fucking, basically on top of me. Wow! I tipped again. I wish more visitors would support these shows and the guys that perform in them. I’d be sad if we lost it…as it seems the world has lost so much from Bangkok/Pattaya over the years. I will absolutely go back anytime I’m in Thailand. My only suggestion for the show is for them to mix up the acts. I think that might be one reason for the low attendance. I think it might be the same show every night. But again, BRAVO boys for an amazing performance!! I think I could’ve stayed and had more fun with the guys at X-Boys post-show, but wanted to go back to Toy Boy to see who was on stage. TOY BOY - Also nearly empty of guests on a Sunday night, Toy Boy still had about 20 boys on stage just after midnight. I talked to the mamasan and asked which ones were tops and bottoms. I wanted a 3some and wanted at least one bottom and one top/vers. He had told me that they “had a room upstairs” where we could play. I thought that would be easier than going back to my hotel, logistics-wise, so I picked the two boys and we went. I paid 2000 baht each, plus a tip for the mamasan, I think. Haha. I was still a little drunk at this point. It turns out that the “room upstairs” is a hotel next door…they must have a by-the-hour arrangement with them. The three of us showered and jumped into bed. Both of them were giggling a bit. They’d never been naked together. It was clear very quickly that one was gay-for-pay straight and the bottom was gay. The three of us fucked around for about 30 minutes…but I was connecting with the gay bottom, “Tree”, in part because he could speak English, and in part because he was enjoying it, so I eventually excused the straight who was only going through the motions. Tree was Thai and a real sweetheart. We fucked and talked and talked and fucked. I know this was a paid exchange, but it felt like love making. He said he was finishing university in Bangkok and got into some sort of an accident. He’s the youngest in the family and his older brother and sister said he needed to do something for money. The accident exposed how vulnerable he was financially. His brother said, “I’m working at a bar in Pattaya…you should come work with me.” He didn’t tell him what kind of bar. Haha. So Tree showed up to work the first day and was like, “What the fuck?”, but he eventually decided he liked the work and is still doing it. I asked Tree if his gay-for-pay brother still worked at the bar. He said yes. I asked, “what would you have done if I had randomly picked you and your brother for a 3some tonight? Would you do it? Enjoy it?” Initially, with a mischievous, horny smirk, he said yes. But then later when I asked again he said no. He didn’t want sex to ruin anything between them and, of course, I respected his answer. Eventually we both came and exchanged numbers. We’re still talking. I got a ride back to the Poseidon Boutique Hotel from a friend I’d made that night. An owner of a restaurant. It was 2:30 AM. I decided to walk around the Jomtien complex to see what was happening. All of the bars were wrapping up for the night. I popped into three bars and talked to a few guys. Then decided to call it a night. I was walking back to the Poseidon hotel and there was a group of guys sitting at a table on the street, close to the hotel. I said hi to all of them as I passed. I locked eyes with one. A hot 20-something wearing a yellow, L.A. Lakers jersey. I walked another few steps and turned around to look. He was standing up…staring in my direction. I thought, “If a guy stands up for you, you should go talk to him.” So I did. All of his friends were like, “OOoooooo-ooooooo”. After saying, “hey”, I asked, “Do you want to go up with me?” And he said yes. As we walked away, all of his friends went “OOoooooo-ooooooo” again. Haha. We immediately went up and both got in the shower. OMG. This guy was drop dead gorgeous. A 27 year old from Myanmar, he works at a bar in Jomtien. He was bright, funny, spoke great English, was brimming with muscles. And his cock! The biggest I’ve seen on any asian. Hard as a rock. I asked about his position…he said vers. I asked if we wanted to bottom and he said yes. We kissed hard for a while, talked for a bit, started fucking…and in missionary position I asked if he was HIV positive (normally something I ask earlier on). He said he was. I am on prep and he said he was undetectable, so we kept going. He said he used to be a money boy and used to do meth. He didn’t know if he got it from the sex or a needle. But he’s absolutely focused on his health right now. And it was clear that he was. We kept having fun and he came while I was fucking him. What a night! I’m so glad I stayed the night in Pattaya. DAY 4 - Just a few things of note: The floating market in Pattaya is a waste of time. I’m sure there are others in Thailand that are authentic and amazing. This one is a tourist trap. Nothing is real. IMO, the beaches weren’t that great in Pattaya and there are a lot of posts online about how dirty the water is. If beaches are a driver to visit here, head out to an island for a day. Better beaches and cleaner water. I got screwed by “The Limo Pattaya” service recommended on this site. We set up a time. I confirmed the day before. The time came. I reached out 20 minutes before to confirm the driver was coming. Nothing. I called and he said, “Give me a minute. Let me look to find a car in your area”. What?? Why did you confirm the day before? WHAT are you confirming the day before? That you will look for a car in my area 20 minutes before my pick up time? Then he wrote and said he couldn’t find a car. Anyway, super frustrating. Grab was the same price. I’ll just use Grab in the future. On the way back from Pattaya, I decided to stop by Zoo Spa and Onsen. BREAKING NEWS - they’ve moved! Next door. I’ll post a photo of the new place. The guys are gorgeous, but the massage and the tip is 2x to 3x as much as you’ll find in Silom 6. Between the premium price and the 45 minute wait for the boy to arrive (in-call only) and not knowing if there would be in-person chemistry, I decided it wasn’t worth it and left. I went back to Silom 6 to see if there were any massage boys I liked. There were four, but they were all straight. So I said “no thank you” and went back to the hotel and had a hot (free) Grindr hook up with a sexy 30 year old Thai bottom. DAYS 5-10 I went to Phuket for 3 days. Had an incredible time on the islands. Only Grindr hookups here. I then went to Chiang Mai for the Loy Krathong “Festival of Light” / lantern festival. FYI - the sanctioned, out-of-town lantern event was chaos x Chaos x CHAOS. I’ve never experienced a clusterfuck of that magnitute in any country. Sexwise, for me, Chiang Mai was a mix of Grindr and HeeSay hookups. And one go-go bar named Adam’s Apple Club. I was there for two hours during prime time. I’d give it a 3/10. Mostly because the guys are average looking, the go-go scenes are cliche and uninspired, and, according to the mamasan, all straight. (I like gay bottoms who are into being bottoms). I spoke with a guest who moved to Chiang Mai 20 years ago. He’s being going to Adam’s Apple for-e-ver and has known most of the models for 7-10 years. To me, that explained why the performers were just going through the motions. They’d done the same thing every night 1000s of times. I don’t blame them, but I didn’t find it enjoyable. He also said he gets massages for 250 baht ($8). I always paid more…but I’m not a local. And that mot of the straight go-go boys at Apple will do anything you want…you just have to agree in advance. I felt a number of hard cocks (no condoms here) and tipped the boys as they walked around. But I wouldn’t go back. And that was my time in Thailand. I hope you found some of trip report informative and entertaining. My advice to first-timers in Thailand: Read this forum and get familiar with everything before you go. There is a lot to learn and things are changing all the time. Download the Grab app for car transport. It works just like Uber. Download Line for texting. It works like WhatsApp. Take the metro as often as you can in Bangkok. Big time saver. Get familiar with how each massage place works. Many have boys on demand. Some are in-call, reservation only. Contact those places on Line in advance. Because Bangkok is so big, I’d combine sightseeing with checking out massage places. For example, the Chatuchak weekend market is somewhat close to BT House Men Massage and Gbeat Massage. Would I ride the metro for 30 minutes just to go and check out a few massage boys? Probably not. Would I walk a few blocks after the weekend market to see which boys might be available? Yes. I suggest creating a physical or digital map with all of the sightseeing spots, restaurants and massage places you might want to visit, and leverage the proximity. In Pattaya, for your hotel, I would decide, “would I rather take a boy to my hotel from a bar in Jomtien complex or a go-go boy from Boy Town?”, and pick a hotel near that spot. They are both relatively close, but I’d rather not have to deal with finding a taxi late at night for a hookup. Don’t miss the X-Boys show in Pattaya. It’s totally worth going to both shows. You may consider wearing no underwear and some loose shorts if you want to get a little drunk and handsy while you enjoy the erotic performances. I loved my first trip to Thailand. I may be back next year. : )

Hello Everyone, I am back from my 2-Week Bangkok Trip. This was my first time ever in Thailand. Below I will share a brief summary of my trip. Firstly because this was my first time, my trip was divided into 3 sections. Gay stuff 😂 (thats what I call it) Sightseeing/Touristy things Personal beauty stuff (like waxing, facials etc) Let me begin by saying that two weeks are not enough for a first timer, I was definitely overwhelmed and tired. Juggling between all the above stuff. Now the Gay stuff. Massages: I only went to Prince & Arena. Prince I went 3 times and Arena only once. The reason I did not bother going to any other massage place because Prince and Arena are guaranteed places that offer good extras. Arena is a little run down while Prince is well-maintained. Please don’t ask me the name of the massuers because I do not remember but they were all great! Minimium tip for Prince is 1500 Baht and I chose basic 1 hour that was 1100 baht. Bars: Atlas Nice show. Among the bars I went only here I saw a masturbation act. I offed a really good looking boy. Again can’t remember name 😭 but he had hair kinda like Guile from Street fighter. From his appearance, it looked like that he might be uptight and rude, but he was the complete opposite, literally the sweetest person. Freshboys The best show I would say. Boys were mostly twink and some twunks. I am not into twinks but there one really cute twunk. However I did not off anyone. Dreamboys: Did not off anyone here too. The selection here is decent actually. From muscular to twink. Show was ok. Jupiter: I feel like Jupiter has something for everyone. Show was enjoyable. Offed a sweet Cambodian boy. I also went to this foot massage place, cant remember which one but it was in the same strip as relax massage. All boys wore yellow polos. I only did a foot massage there but the guy did press my penis a couple of time. Maybe because I was there last customer and I went really late. I did pass by The One but did not go in, however this really cute bouncer they have outside was like I’ll go to hotel with you. I didn’t take him though. Now the things I did not like: Before I say this, I do want to clarify that this is not a complaint or rant. I know there are many Thailand fans in this forum and I do not want to offend anyone. This is just something I did not like. [In all below senarios I DID give tips] When I went to Altas, they kept pushing tip bucket in my face, which was still fine considering the boy was performing on the stage. However when I chose the guy to off, the person who helped me get the boy asked for a tip, then the waiter asked for the tip. I went to Freshboys, the waiter just brought my drink and pushed me for a tip. Then later when I was done with the drink, some other waiter took the bill and he asked me for the tip. The host/announcer working there asked for tip. When I went to Jupiter (I went twice) first time i did not off anyone, so it was not much of a hassle, good thing they take money at the entrance instead of inside. However, when I went the second time to off, the guy who brought the boy asked for the tip then another waiter standing nearby asked for tip just because he kept asking me if i need boy earlier. When I was finally leaving with my guy. The person at the door shook his tip box and asked for the tip. My GOODNESS, by this point I was annoyed by going to the bars. This was really off putting for me. It is one thing to tip, but it’s a whole another thing when everybody is just literally asking it on your face. So much money was already spent even before I got the boy. Final Verdict: As a city Bangkok is amazing and so much fun!!! I am still sad leaving it. Will I come back? Of course!! But if I just want sex without any b.s, I will rather go to Barcelona thermas. It is much cheaper in all ways for me even when it comes to flights (from Texas). But Bangkok in general offers a lot for tourists I spent hours strolling through markets buying so much stuff, going to 7-Eleven and eating all the toasties every single day. But judging purely based on sex, Barcelona and Brazil are still winners for me. However there is a thrill when you go to the bar and select a guy to off. I was so nervous but felt so brave afterwards 😂. This is my mini report and I know I have only just scratched the surface of gay stuff in bangkok that is why I need another trip.

Don’t believe that dramatic tittle of the report. Yes, it was not one of best and memorable trips but still , when comes to boys, it brought plenty of fine moments. Still it did not work as planned and envisioned, partially because life intervened, partially because I made hasty decision so my sentiment reflected in the tittle about that trip is accurate. Original plane was 4 nights in Bangkok , followed by three in Pattaya, carefully chosen to coincide with show at The Best Bar in Jomtien as part of Maxhunt ( more about that in relevant part ) and then 6 days in Bangkok again. Then life happened, owing to family matters I was forced, or to be more accurate, I had chosen to be forced to cancel my original ticket. Since it was low cost non-refundable one and I never buy trip cancellation insurance, it meant I threw 700 USD it originally cost to the dust bin. They were other related costs amounting to roughly the same , before I stepped out of plane in Bangkok, three day later than planned, I lost about 1400 $. No wonder I’m glad it’s over. Still , mind you I opted for that misery and I’m glad I did. Life, sigh. Then before I even left home I noticed that one of my boys, lets call him Cambodian Boy (CB), changed his Line avatar to something teary. So out of curiosity I asked him if all is ok. It was not as he explained. Due to border dispute between Thailand and Cambodia he was forced to leave his bar job , returned home but told me he will come on 14 to utilize his 7 day visa, all currently available. I did not spill the beans that I should be in Bangkok for part of his time there but I knew that first bar I visit will be Moonlight hoping for that big smile of surprise. Anyways after all those tribulation , instead of Sunday I landed in Bangkok on Wednesday after having extremely pleasant last leg from Doha with all three seats in my row at my disposal. Day1 Landed early afternoon which is the best time as removes all problems with early check in in hotel and allows to change money at best places. Immigration was a breeze this time , 5 minutes and I was out. Speaking about changing money, in the basement by railway station I got 37.10 for euro, and assumption that it was the best rate lasted only until arrival at Phaya Thai station. Immediately after one leaves paid area there are two booths and one offered 37.28 and next one even 37.30. That rate , by the way was matched by XOne hour or two later. My original plan was to stay in Baan Silom but since my 4 night shrunk to one I went for Raya. Owing to low season that had very friendly rates. Settling there I went to post office as had something to mail , then to XOne to change more money and finally to Foodland for my first chicken with cashews – sadly , this time very average. I love that first day there when I’m settling for promising trip buying necessities and checking what is new. Building rising out of soi Twilight ashes is almost completed , that was big and tall new thing. At 8 p.m. I parked myself in front of Banana Club , soon joined for a beer by one of their guys but since he is diminutive guy I was plain social occasion. Still gave him 2 reds for his company by way of patented ‘vinapu tuck”. Then he went inside and I strolled through both Patpongs , in Patpong 2 enthusiastically welcomed buy some guys knowing me from better times. I was tempted to enter Atlas as boys on the stage were in pure and tempting view but one of them spotted me , went down from the stage and immediately lowered his briefs asking for a tip ”for food”. That was bit too fast so I politely explained I just arrived and did not have a chance to change money and declined invitation by boss himself to step inside. At that moment I was not even sure I will go inside that trip at all. I don’t mind spreading money but such antics were too fast moving for my taste. At 10pm. I went to Moonlight and this is what I reported in “Patpong” thread on that day : “I was customer #6 . When show started at 10.30 grand total 12 customers. 10 models, Mean returned but Babe not present. New guy Joey with broad smile quite impressive. About 8 floor boys but regretfully none of two I was hoping to see. At least 3 boys offed including both Lao brothers and guy taken by one who took over Vinapu's account.” . I was disappointed I did not see neither CB nor Y but at least M I offed twice in winter was on the stage and just before I was about to leave bar I motioned him to dress bypassing mamasan who use to leech to me from minute on I show in. It must be dearth of clients because even one of their models I had pleasure with before come to shake hands and exclaim ‘ long time no see you “. Light dinner in Happy Beer Garden and soon M and I were in my room . M is not long time material and I did not expect him to stay past normal short time but low season kicked in and it was already 5 am when he suggested he will go home. Nice surprise for start of trip earning him extra 1000 in the process.

Set out for 9p.m. appointment at the most recent massage shop to open in the area: Phoenix. It was a pleasant and dry evening, perfect for the leisurely 25-minute walk. When I arrived on Inthamara 25, quickly located shop but it was closed. Puzzled because I’d made appointment, I texted shop on LINE and they sent me map link. It was all in Thai and nothing at all looked familiar. I followed with another text saying I’m on Inthamara 25 and shop answers, “sorry, we move to Lat Phrao 110.” Result: one disappointed customer and one disappointed masseur. Now in need of a sure-thing fix, I backtracked and headed for Phetboy and booked same guy from last Saturday who didn’t disappoint. I was a bit slow in cleaning up after and told guy to go to shower and I’d soon follow after checking phone. When I got to shower room, I opened door and placed towel on rack and ran a hand down boy’s back. Suddenly realized his tattoo had changed design and he seemed to be taller. He turned around with a surprised but amused look. Yes, it was a different masseur. Embarrassed, all I could think to say was “sorry. He was just finishing up and toweling off. Couldn’t help but noticing that he was very well equipped so I asked for his name. He told me, turned and disappeared. I was sort of hoping that find him downstairs but he had vanished along with what remained of my pride.

Bangkok - part 3 I am back home already so this is the last part of my trip. Stayed in some hotels I haven't stayed at before, met some new boys as well as rekindled with some old ones, and I was fortunate enough to hang out with Vinapu 3 times! We started our nights having a drink at the front of Banana bar before heading off to a gogo bar. Hotels Ibis Styles Silom - I had a decent stay here. It is fairly new and quite clean, however the rooms are a little on the smaller side. The room layout is also quite interesting with an absolutely massive shower, and then the bathroom sink on the outside. It seemed to work though. I was on the highest floor of the rooms and had a nice view of a carpark. At least I had an outside view as the rooms on the other side of the floor faced towards the 'atrium' so they would have received no natural light. They are guest friendly with no-one batting an eyelid when bringing your gentleman of the evening. Would I stay again? Probably not, but it was worth giving it a try. Le Meridien - It was a highlight to stay at this hotel. From the get-go, the level of service and hospitality was unmatched compared to everywhere else that I stayed. I booked direct and had the Marriott Bonvoy app installed on my phone and they sent a notification when my room was ready - which happened to be at around 11:30am which meant I could just pop over from Ibis Styles without having to wait around. The app also allowed me to unlock my room without using the card. The room was huge and well-appointed and this hotel also is guest friendly. I had a 'beef brisket burger' from the restaurant downstairs, which is something I wouldn't normally get, but it was actually really delicious. Normally I would say that Crowne Plaza is my favourite in the area, but I think Le Meridien might just take the cake. The only reason I would choose Crowne over Meridien is the proximity to the BTS/MRT and also it is on the 'correct' side of Surawong Road. Bars Dreamboys - I've been here countless times so nothing much more needs to be said, and I ended up taking back my regular from here who I've known for a few years. I like him and we are comfortable with each other, but I get the feeling sometimes that he is becoming a little complacent in his efforts. The show was pretty standard, and there was another boy that I liked but as soon as I mentioned it, another customer took him off straight away. Have to be quick! Hotmale - It was a quiet night when I visited, but the show went on. Since there weren't many customers (and at one stage I was the only one), when the big cock show came around, I tipped them all (there were only 4 guys). Most of the guys I could have gone with and whilst choosing, I asked the papasan who can top AND bottom, and he pointed out only 2 guys who I then decided to call both down and have a drink. Turns out they are both Cambodian. Whilst trying to make up my mind as to who to take, it was suggested that I go with both but I didn't really want to risk an awkward encounter in case things didn't quite work out. I ended up choosing the guy that sat on my right as he was a little more playful, had more tattoos and kissed better, and the guy on my left was just very slightly fem, which isn't a bad thing but just not my thing right then. Turns out that I had made a good choice as the chemistry back in the bedroom was definitely there. Absolutely will repeat for next time. Moonlight - It was a quiet night at this bar with a few customers, but the show went on anyway, which as you probably already know, is pretty tame. The floor boys I probably could have gone with any of them, they were all pretty attractive, but I didn't that night. The models - a little too big for my personal taste, but attractive anyway. There was a guy that I had been with in the past, and Vinapu had also been with, and I had a selfie of him and me which I showed Vinapu and he told me to show the guy, so I did and he was pretty bewildered, I don't think he remembered me at all lol. There were also a couple of guys sitting near us that I think had bottle service and later on in the night one of the guys I think had passed out and his friend had to carry him out. Atlas - This was great fun. All the staff knew Vinapu as he is quite famous in these parts. The night started with one of the guys giving me a massage (I remember him from Tawan), and then the show which featured many appendages but no fuck show this time. The lady boy show at the end was absolutely hilarious though - made me laugh out loud. There was one guy that looked vaguely familiar so I invited him for a drink and turns out that I had offed him a year ago when he worked at what was then called Screwboys. He was really angling for an off, and gave me a boner right there in the bar, but I wasn't looking for company that night. I also bought another guy a drink who had a Muay Thai body and abs of steel, however he was very oily lol. He was pretty friendly and told me not to forget him next time I come. Earlier in the night there was a cute (masked) asian guy (customer) that sat quite close next to me even though there were many vacant seats in the bar. Overall, it was a really fun night with a nice relaxed atmosphere. Yes the boys are mostly huge, but there is a variety that would cater to all tastes. Other Massage - the only massage I had was an outcall. Earlier in my trip I had gone to Senso hoping to see a particular masseur that I had in the past, but he wasn't working there anymore. Luckily I had his Line contact so I contacted him and turns out that he works freelance at Prince and Jey Spa but would be happy to come to my hotel room. So I booked him to come visit me and we had an excellent and versatile time. Pattaya boy - this guy that I had met in Jomtien who gave me a bit of a boyfriend experience was trying to get me to come visit his hometown (about an hour outside of Bangkok) but since I had already paid for my hotels in Bangkok, I wasn't keen. He then wanted to visit me in Bangkok so I agreed for only 1 night, which he was happy with (I really am not a fan of long-time). We ended up having some drinks at Valour in Silom soi 4 (I had a huge gin and tonic that was served in a red wine glass) and we went to Silom soi 2 later in the evening, to DJ station, or at least to a bar in that general vicinity, not sure if it is all DJ Station. He seemed to know many of the staff there, and my body was already saying no, so I left him there to have fun (which he was completely fine with) and I went back to the hotel to sleep and he rang me later on when he was ready to come back. This guy is getting a little too attached to me, and I do like him too, but I have been trying to cool it a little because I cannot return the feelings back that he seems to have for me. He's a good guy though, really sweet. In the morning we went to foodland, and funnily enough he got the farang breakfast whilst I had a rice soup. Sexual health clinic - if you are looking to get tested, I would recommend Pribta Tangerine Clinic, which is in the Chamchuri building, close to Sam Yan MRT. I think it is cheaper than the more popular Pulse clinic. It is really well-run and pretty efficient. The clinic is very clean and neat and all the staff speak English. It was pretty busy when I went though. The results were emailed to me a few hours after I had left. Here in my home country, it takes a few days at least. So that marks the end of my 2 month trip. I have never taken a holiday this long before, but I am glad that I gave it a try. There were times where I was done and felt like coming home, but towards the end I needed more time! I got lazy often and was always saying 'I'll do it tomorrow' but then there were no more tomorrows left! But all in all I had a great time, and even got to meet with a few lovely forum members. This trip I also noticed more and more people thought I was Thai, which has happened in the past, but not to this extent. I take it as a compliment though. I'm planning my next trip for maybe a year's time, but who knows, the temptation may become too great and I will find myself back sooner rather than later. Thanks for reading!

Day 8 , last After my guy left I had good sleep till late morning , them went for breakfast and returned to the room to pack up. Earlier I asked about the option of late check out as my plane leaves at 7.pm but I was told by lady who seemed to be in charge that there are no rooms available. Considering that other guy , manning laptop in the lobby seemed sympathetic to my query and I notice strange grimaces sent his way by said lady I think they simply did not want to bother. No problem although it would be nice to have room till , say 4 pm. I found solution, left my bag on reception and went to soi 6 to have massage at Maha with diminutive hunk there , Nut. Great , no rush session. At 3 pm my last chicken and rice soup at Foodland, minutes later reader joined me for latest gossip and he walked me to mouth of Convent Road here we had our good bye hugs hoping to see each other very soon. Train to the airport was very crowded but no surprise there considering it was peak hours. At 7 something pm my Gulf Air A321 took off on its way to Bahrain with me inside waving good bye to Thailand for 36th time. In sharp contrast with September this time I was leaving with bleeding heart. Considering what brought me there I was in need of something uplifting and this time guys delivered , one after another. Even bump mid trip with underdelivering Banana guy, mostly on time , was not that painful. Who would think that my best guy will be from Jupiter ? Even now , week later I’m kind of amazed . And I still have my sights on another hunk from there, one who mildly pissed me by not confirming his tips with smile but I’m not giving up on him for two reasons, first he was recommended to me by forum friend I absolutely trust judgment of, second because he looked much better in flesh than on pics and clips I saw of him before .So it looks for my next trip whenever it will be I have my homework already assigned , I’m not giving up that easy. I’m glad that Handsome Cambodian with whom I have long history of offs , not all of the happy – once he dumped me after I complained about his constant surfing on his phone , looked happy and somewhat settled. I have soft spot for him because of his troubled , early orphaned life. Chai, new discovery in Arena was joyful and I cherish sense of achievement of finally being engaged with #10 from Moonlight and #31 from Banana I pursued for some time. Very uplifting fact that all bar one of boys I known previously bar that I engaged this trip performed , I must say even better than previously. No games , no stupid excuses ( I overlook last night because I have feeling it was not malicious ). Only think I feel sense of missing was another meeting with Y from Moonlight but simply our schedules did not align. Those familiar with my report perhaps notice one , so far always present , thing missing - absence of visit to Tawan. Yes it was on design. I still love bar and it’s boys dearly but this time I was in no mood to partake in their constant ‘ tip, tip, tip “ requests. Even when I had chance meeting with K on that famous corner , he immediately raised his shirt and asked for ‘ tip for eating “. I wish them well and hope to visit in the future but this time I gave them a miss and I ‘m glad I did. How far I went from days when my trips were on Tawan monodiet ? But not my fault. Life is strange thing. One week you attend your best , lifelong, friend’s funeral, next you have week of your life and one of best of my many trips to LOS. I love you life !

Second visit to Bangkok 15/11/25 So this is my second only visit to Bangkok and my first trip report. I will try to do an update every three days or so as I am taking my time and won’t have much to add on a daily basis. Staying at the Hilton Millenium a little out but only 15 minutes to Sala Daeng and 100 bhat in the taxi back from Soi 4 so not too bad and I like the full service hotels and have points so that’s another reason I use the hotel, also no issues taking people to room. First night I did not realise was Loi Krathong so the hotel was full with youngsters in traditional dress taking there Lantern’s down to the pier to put in the river, very nice to see. To take away the stress of the first night I had a boy from Dreamboys who I offed twice on my fist visit come for the night, we have stayed in touch since February so was nice to see him, go to Icon Siam for a meal, the place was very busy and then have first night fun, he headed home after a large breakfast. Hilton dose serve a very large and good spread. Saturday was a lazy day about 8pm went across to Soi 2 and 4 and had a walk around the area to familiarise myself with the various locations, I have to say I find shamelessmack maps very useful in this. Was early about 8.45pm but decided to have a quick look inside The One, funny thing I went to Tawan in February but it was the night the police had closed the place so just found a locked shop. It was probably because I was too early, but I was the only person in the place, three models on the stage and everyone else on their phones completely ignoring me, all older 30 plus nothing toned more solid / some weight. I finished my 500 baht coke and left within 5 minutes. The guy outside who had taken me in then offered massage and sex but he was not my type, same as the guys in the shop so declined and headed off to I think Soi 2. I called in to Dragon and Koi, again this is about 9.20pm so still early, couple of people in the bar had a cocktail (395 baht) and a beer (130 baht) and was joined by one of the servers from Myanmar who spoke quite good English. Let me know he would be one of the dancers that night but I would miss him as by 10pm I was heading to Freshboys for the remainder of the night. Freshboys (10pm show started at 10.30pm) the boys where on stage in their white shorts doing the normal parade, all twink / twunk most nicely toned and my type. Did not think I was going to off anyone but decided to buy number 16 a drink and he stayed with me for the rest of the night, apart from going back on stage on three occasions. Very affectionate and with a fantastic hard body all muscle from Vietnam. The place got busy as the show started and was full of people, having to squeeze in by about 10.50pm. There were only three Diva songs (same person) which where quite good as well as the big dick show, shower show and at least two sets where oral sex was performed so I thought a good show. By the last parade at about 12.30am my boy had not been offed so after enjoying him for the best part of two and a half hours I changed plans and offed him for the night. Quick bite to eat at Foodland. Walking past Dragon and Koi it was definitely more busy with a dance show going on two boys on the floor and three on the bar, but you would think at that time on a Saturday night it should be. Lots of fun with my Vietnamese boy for the night he left after having breakfast. This has gone on far too long so will stop at day two. Hope my writing style is ok, having read a lot of trip reports I find it difficult to know if this is any good or waffle. Feedback and suggestions welcome.

I typed this out and accidentally clicked the back button losing it all, then I typed this out in notepad to paste here. When I came back it said “previous comment restored” it was all back! Great feature. But I had already restored the below Monday I woke up bit later which was nice, I was on Grindr and talked to another tourist who was staying in my hotel, we hooked up for a quick session. After I took some of my shirts to get laundered. I did not bring enough shirts. It is very hot so I end up sweating and changing a couple times per day. So I recommend bring extra! I then decided to do the Hop on and off tourist boat, it was only 150 baht, Mac did show me how to use the regular boats but I liked the convenience of this predetermined route, I visited icon Siam again, where I went to the atm at a bank on the five floor to get some more cash. I then took the cash inside to have the 1000 baht notes broken down into smaller bills, I did this before and is much easier than breaking these large bills at places like 7-11. I visited wang lang market which I thought was a great inexpensive market. I bought a few clothing items. They also have second hand items if someone is truly looking for a bargain. I visited Chinatown, the amount of shops can be overwhelming but it was a fun walk. I also visited khaoson road, the amount of tailors approaching you for custom suites, shirts is astounding. I was asked more for a suit than a massage :p. I returned to my hotel around 6:30, tourist from Grindr messaged me asking if I wanted another quick session, I said sure and had some quick fun. I showered and relaxed in my room, it started to rain and I was debating wether or not I wanted to even go out in this, around 9:30 the rain died down to a drizzle and I decided I would venture out. I did not want to walk in this rain so I decided to get a grab car. While riding I was thinking about buying umbrella, I thought during the rainy season it might be wise for the drivers to carry some to sell to tourists they could make some extra money as I’m sure we would pay a premium. I walked through patpong market looking to see if anyone selling umbrella but wasn’t bothered if they didn’t. I made my way to the one bar, with the help from my previous post. I arrived just before 10. The promoter asked me to come in I said sure. It was a very small bar. They sat me in the middle directly in front of the stage. If I reached out with my arm I could touch the guys on stage. That’s how close it is. I thought there was 10-12 customers when I entered with two guys posing on stage. I realized after short time there was actually only 5 of us customers the rest were bar boys. The guys asked next to me, who worked there, was very pushy. Kept asking who I liked, this one younger, you like him, I kept stating I’m just looking for now, two different guys now went on stage and posed, they did not seem interested. This place was brightly lit, very small. I was not comfortable so I decided to leave around 10:15. The guys are more muscular and a bit older than the other bars I’ve attended. There was definitely a couple guys I was attracted to, but as I said the atmosphere ruined it for me. The entry fee was 500 baht, which you pay before entering, and includes one drink. Next I thought about going back to fresh boys but I wanted to try something new, so I went downstairs to good boys. This time the promoter outside asked me if I wanted to come inside, show is on. I said sure. He opened door and mamasan greeted me and took me to a table one row from the back. This place is bigger. Not as brightly lit and was packed with customers when I got there, two tables even had guys with bottles and multiple bar boys. The show was you going on and there was a drag performance. After a couple of the boys did a strip tease, followed by a light bdsm performance where two boys danced in their underwear with their hard cocks showing, after which they removed. One boy was hitting the other with a pool noodle. Another drag queen performance. I myself enjoy drag performances and these ladies definitely lip synced well. One of the mamasans came around to me, there was three of them, she asked if I liked anybody I said I am still looking she said okay let me know if you like anybody, after show they will be on stage and you can see, she told me they had boys from multiple countries not just Thai. I felt like she wanted me to:have good time and wasn’t just pressuring me to off one. Next up was big cock show, they showed off on stage then after came into audience to show off their goods. One cute boy approached me and I tipped 100 then another, and another, I wasn’t really interested in any others I saw one of the mamasans saw me tipping and told a couple of the other boys to come see me, I tipped one more then I politely said no thanks when others came to me. They didn’t seem offended and simply moved onto other customers. A simple no thanks has worked at all the bars I’ve attended so far. After the boys went on stage. They all are wearing tight white briefs. I liked a few, the boys here feel a bit more slender and slot appear to be more feminine in their mannerisms. I was looking for a top and was a bit worried. Mamasan came around again and said which boy you like, I asked her for some info on number 16. She told me he do everything, top, bottom, you will like. I wasn’t confident in her answers and said thank you and decided to watch some more. Here it felt like the boys were not interested in me, only one or two guys looked back at me and smiled. The rest seemed disinterested overall. This is a turn off for me. If they are not interested in stage when trying to present themselves, how will they react back in my hotel room? I decided to leave for the night, I called mamasan over asked for bill. She said oh no you don’t like anyone, I explained there was one boy I liked but he was busy with another customer who bought a bottle. She said oh you show me. I showed her she said oh yea. She said I see what you like. I told her I might come back tomorrow, she asked me to stay for the next show but I declined, she told me to come and see her again tomorrow, I paid, tipped her and left. I liked good boys. Staff was friendly, atmosphere was nice, seats are dimly lit. Just wish the boys seemed a bit more interested, I will definitely return, maybe the boy I like will be available next time. I was thinking on heading back to my hotel as it was just about midnight. I walked a little further and fresh boys promoter saw me and said come inside show is on, o thought for a second but said sure. I went inside and it was about 3/4 full of people. Drink is 400. The boy I had offed previously was on stage in the show and he greeted me. I sat down and ordered drink and watched the end of the show. After the show he came over and greeted me. I tipped him 100 we chatted for moment, I asked him if anyone new was here who was verse that he could work with. He gave me two numbers. Then the papasan told him to rejoin a couple male/female who I guess bought him a drink before the show. So he left to join them. I was disappointed maybe they were gonna take him tonight. I looked on stage and a few of the guys where thrusting their hips at me, I guess he told some of these guys what I like, they didn’t really interest me. One guy was older and he kept trying to get me to buy him drink,I’m just was not interested. The couple who had my guy was paying their bill. I did not see him get dressed so after they left he came back to rejoin me. Papasan asked if I wanted to buy him drink, I said sure. So I talked to him about the guy he mentioned. We watched for him to come to the side of our stage. He was a little Twinkier than I like but I asked papasan for him to buy drink so we could talk. I picked him between the two numbers my guy gave because my guy told me his English was better. He joined me and asked me usually questions “where you from” “ how long you here” My guy said he was in next show he had to get ready I said sure, I talked to the new guy, I asked him position he said everything, he seemed nervous, he wasn’t here the night before. I told him I wanted to see my guy fuck him, then him do me, he said he was fine with that, I asked rate. He asked me how much I paid my guy I told him as I was fine with it and he said ok. So I decided to off them both. He went to go get changed I paid the bill. Then when he came back we cuddled while we watched the show, my guy was in show with the drag queen with simulated sex acts, I haven’t seen this before since both nights previously I left the bar with him before he performed this act. We got back to my hotel room, all showered. Nice thing about this room is the shower is big enough for all of us with a rainfall shower head, new guy was finishing up in shower while my guy and I discussed my days activities where I went. We had slot of fun with the three of us. Unfortunately my guy was too big for the new guy to take, he tried but I didn’t want to ruin the mood by having him continue, I was a bit disappointed but we all still had fun. In the future Im not sure how I would overcome this to ensure new guy would be able to fully perform. We all showered again I tipped them both and thanked them. Ordered some food and off to bed I went. At fresh boys after I picked two other guys trying to get us to do three, even one of the waiters showed me his number. I definitely could not do three haha. Are the waiters off able? I thought they just wore numbers to make it easier to know who helped you. Fresh boys definitely has some cute waiters. Should I try any other bars tonight? I’m thinking of heading to skywalk this afternoon then maybe to arena after.

Back a few years ago, I said I met the love of my life at Tawan. Well, there were many naysayers. But, here is the thread: So, skip forward a few years, we are still together and doing great. He has been an amazing addition to this old man's later life. He keeps me busy, on my toes, and entertained. Not easy to do, but sometimes, you just know on the first meet. The BF of over 20 years, I knew that day. And, we are still together (kinda) as he has a farm now and lives with his family but talk daily. When I call, he comes that day. When I need him, he is there. When he needs me, I'm there. As for the love of my life, he has been a true joy. Don't let the people tell you that romance dies at a certain age or that every bar boy is the same. They are not. They are often diamonds in the rough and it takes patience, love, attention, and money.

It may be because I've just returned from Thailand and am, bluntly, fed-up....that I can sympathise with visitors who have disappointments there; we all do, whether it be an unsuccessful "off" or, in my case, a poor meal. Very few of those, by the way! However, for someone contemplating a grey, chilly day in London, thousands of miles away from his loved-one I must encourage adopting the Buddhist principle of (as P tells me, ad nauseam) "thinking good." It is true that, the older I get, the harder it is to look on the bright side but, for heaven's sake, the vast majority of guys on the scene whom we meet are friendly, reasonable in their demands. And fun. That was my experience, anyway. For me, just to wander through the JC before bedtime (embarrassingly early in my case) enjoying the cheerful smiles, the enticing offers- cheerful and not persistent when refused- and the sheer joyfulness (at their best) of the guys is something I treasure. And even more so in retrospect. I just like being smiled at! Is there anywhere else in the world where such pleasures are available so cheaply and so safely? and when the assignation isn't so good, it is so easy to say, "Mai pen rai; tomorrow's will be better". And it will be.

Arrival This time is was quite a long trek since I had 12 hours layover in Munich. After overnight flight my plan was to do some sightseeing of the city, few people I know consider most interesting in Germany. But even best plans are derailed and sometimes replaced by even better ones. Upon arrival at main train station, itself a long train ride from the airport , count at least 45 minutes, I noticed train to Garmish Patenkirchen departing in 7 minutes. Enough time to place my carry-on in locker, ticket was no issue as I got 1 day Bavaria Ticket purchased at the airport already. 90 minutes later alighted from the train at Garmish but instead of admiring Alpine vistas I noticed poster about train trips to Germany’s highest peak Zugspitze. Round trip to the peak by separate train plus cable car up and down was 72 euros. I said silent prayer that it will work and soon I was on my way . at certain point we changed train to different one, cog wheeled which took us through the tunnel to the glacier, quite high up there. From last station it was cable car to viewing platform just below the actual peak. Day was beautiful so you can imagine views from the top. Going down was direct cable car from the top to train station. From there to Garmish and then another train to Munich. Getting there just in time to catch train to the airport and board my Bangkok bound overnighter. Little I knew at that time that this transit day was perhaps best day of entire trip, bonus being completely unplanned and not even expected to be spent that way. Day 1 Arrived in Bangkok at 14.30. First step was to buy SIM card as I was supposed to meet another ,member who was about to finish his Thai trip with 3 days in Pattaya and this way my first were his last 3. Immigration was a breeze and soon we meet at Gate 8 from where Bus to Pattaya departs but we decided to call Bolt or Grab, whatever my friend was using and for 1000 baht plus 100 tip , 80 minutes after we were alighting in front of Classroom hotel. Since it was my friend’s first visit in the city we did walk about Boyztown’s sois an Beach Rd, I showed him famous Lewinsky hotel, we sat for a dinner at bay watch restaurant and at 21.00 parked ourselves, beer in hand on Copa’s verandah to see Boyztown coming to life. An hour later we decided to check show at XBoys so went there . It was almost full and show was very progressive with a lot of flesh visible and not one but two special shows. It was surprising to see one of their guys I know for years to be actually smilingly bottoming in one of them. And no, it was not just a simulation. Then was decided , at my insistence to check Dreamboys across the soi. I was hoping #36 I saw twice in January will be there . There were no customers but about dozen boys assembled on the stage for us , 36 was not one of them but fast my friend pointed at another guy and I wasted no time to call him over. Tall, muscular and handsome. Drink and whisper “ do you go with me ? “ answered “ yes” smilingly. What about long time ? “I will tell you later” was the answer. Soon we were walking to hotel. On top of physical attractiveness his English proved very conversational and we had good time indeed. What about that long time ? “ I can not tonight as I need to wake up early to help my friend to move, but tomorrow for sure” . What about daytime visit ?, “I will let you know tomorrow”. At 2 session was over , he wanted to go home to sleep so collected his tip, 2000, high for Pattaya but worth every penny an went his way. I , after two nights on the plane and day in between spent sightseeing Alpes , collapsed on the bed for well deserved , although lonely sleep. While in Thailand I like to wake up in the morning next to a fine gentleman, not necessarily dressed and to complete a deal , to have breakfast with him. But not tonight as we can see.

For my 63rd birthday, I decided to join @vinapu in Bangkok. We had already met up in Pattaya the previous week with another forum member. For my birthday, we celebrated in Moonlight, piggy-backing off of the party that was already underway for Jessica. Earlier in the day on the 29th, I treated myself to a Vinapu recommendation, Alex, a wonderful muscle Burmese guy in my Raya room with the "in the middle of the suite" transparent glass shower. ohh lala... On the following day, the 30th of August, I decided to pamper myself at the new GLAM's Massage & Spa, that was getting a lot of gossip, reviews, etcetra in the Twitter (X) Massage Insider forum. --> reference to what is the Massage Insider forum from 26 January 2024 https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/40375-is-the-gay-scene-dying-off/page/5/#comment-372916 It is located at: 380/2 Ratchadaphisek Rd, Samsen Nok, Huai Khwang, Bangkok 10310 and can be easily reached via the MRT Blue line at the Sutthisan station and then just a 5 minute walk to the shop. From our BKK gay ghetto, it is only 8 stops away from the Lumphini blue line MRT station to Sutthisan. - around 40 baht. Here is the front of the GLAM shop. I took my sneakers off and left them outside of the entrance door. Here is the reception - you will see that it is huge and beautiful. You will be greeted by the manager and told what is on offer for that day and shown a menu of various programs. From here, I was taken up 1 flight via a large beautiful staircase where you are made to feel like you are in a museum or art exhibition. I was not allowed to take a photo on this first floor because the manager was sensitive about what could be misinterpreted (as I told him that I was going to write an article for a gay farang newsletter) --> as the shop was only open 2 weeks - and they wanted a chance to survive (any wrongly prying eyes) this initial opening this soft opening period. If you were lucky to visit the former Hero (Sukhumvit soi 11) or the current Prince - there is the famous glass wall with the hot guys pumping iron and showing off so that you can select your guy(s) for your visit. https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/10299-hero-massage/#comment-89772 internet photo of Prince glass wall for illustration purposes Well, GLAM has a similar concept, but instead of workout equipment behind the glass wall there are several leather sofas where the guys sit and with the manager you select your guy from outside of the glass. Unfortunately, on the day that I showed up - it was 1pm and all of the guys were in a training class for their new Hot Stone massage offering. So, the manager was able to only get 3 guys to exit the training class so that I could chose 2 from them - as I was interested in = surprise --> hahahaha --> a 4 hands massage. The manager told me that they have 30 guys working for them. So, my 2 masseurs walked me up another 3 flights to the top floor 4, to the VIP room. The massage VIP room was huge with a big comfortable bed and an amazing shower where we truly had a lot of "warm up" fun. All was good - the 4 hands massage, the "afters", and the "cool down shower" get ready to go back outside onto the streets of Bangkok. My program was expensive - as I selected the VIP room and 2 guys for 90 minutes. I paid 1.750 to the massage shop and each guy's minimum tip was 1.800 each - so the total for my birthday extravaganza was: 5.350 baht. For me it was well worth it. They have much cheaper prices for standard rooms and with just 1 masseur for 60 minutes instead of 90 minutes. Would I go again? YES, as it was nice to see another Bangkok neighborhood and to experience a decadent type of new massage shop like GLAM. I wish them the best of luck. Enjoy.

So I have been on the forum for sometime to collect tips / lessons learned from the different posts here, as well as refering to external resources. I thought it would be great just to share my observation on best practices in the forum. Hoping that this could be helpful for first timer gay visit to Bangkok. If you have anything else - feel free to add. A mandatory read it of course the Shameless Mack travel log - https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/category/bangkok/. God bless his soul for being a faithful field reporter of his escapades in Bangkok with lots of charm and character. The forum here also contains many trip report which are written by forum veterans … (Vinapu and others) Massage Parlor Understand that there are different type of massage parlors. Not all massage parlors are created equal: Booking or not: Parlors along Silom area tend to operate on walk-ins (VCK Club, Arena massage) while Saphan Khwai operate on booking basis (KMAN, Phetboy, One, etc). You must have LINE on your phone and add individual massage parlors on LINE to make prior booking. From what I gather, the booking need not to be made too far in advance - a day or two before is probably sufficient Tipping: It is important to understand what is the minimum tips required for each shop. Whereas the massage parlor state a minimum tip of 1000 baht+ - this signals that some sex is included - if you are not sure and want to have an exact activity in mind, be sure to ask in advance. The common courtesy here is to tip above minimum (up to 50%+) if service received is good. General thai massage parlor: Some stores along Silom are just a general massage place (like Green Massage by way of example). Here there will be a negotiation with the masseur if you want additional service and what that entails Not all massage parlors have “happy ending”. For instance, Prime Massage is known for their quality massage and unlikely you’ll have happy ending here. Some men-oriented massage is targeted at high end of the market and will not have sex involved (e.g. Prestige massage, MSense Massage) comes to mind There are tons of massage shops out there - some are geared toward tourist with tried and true business model (VCK, Prince, Ssense, Gannymede, Arena) while some are geared toward local (KMan, Aura, One, etc). There are stores further out too that are just not in tourist area (Taywa, Master Gallery, etc). VCK club is likely the most famous shop among foreigners - I’ve heard that the service in this store has gone down with it being too mechanical. You’ll likely be in and out well below the time purchased If receiving masseur photos in advance, be cautioned that the photo has been enhanced in post-edit - just to keep expectations realistic. The profile of the masseur will often indicate HEIGHT/WEIGHT/ Orientation (Gay/Straight/Bisexual) / Tool size. Generally have cash ready for tips and to purchase the massage. Do not bring valuables or too much cash. Gogo Bar (The One, Dreamboy, Moonlight, etc) GoGo bar is another way (beside Massage parlor) that enable you to have an ‘encounter’. Each bar has its own forte and the reports by various forum members here describe the type of performers are there. Sometimes you can also check out their TikTok to see the lineup of guys there. There is typically en entrance fee (500 Baht+) that includes a drink The shows typically start late 10p+ During the show, you will have an opportunity to interact with ‘mamasan’ or ‘papasan’ to see which boy you are interested to take with you at the end of the night The best practice here it seems is to have a quick chat with the boy first (with mamasan/papasan help, or just wave at him). If you have a chat with the performer, then you need to buy him a drink and maybe a small tip like 100 baht (if you dont end up taking him) During the negotiation, the best practice is to ask how much is his service be depending on your preference (Short time - couple of hours, or Long time - until next day). This is to avoid surprise of tip amount at the end. If you absolutely need certain activity to be carried out, it also does not hurt to ask now I believe the rate for ST here is about 1500baht-2000baht whereas long term can be as much as 3000-3500baht. You will also need to pay a bar fine 500baht typically when you take the boy away If the boy end up leaving earlier than anticipated, you adjust the tip accordingly (advice per forum member here) Based on my guestimation, the time you will be able to take the boy off with you is likely well past midnight - therefore this method is less than ideal to those who tend to like to sleep earlier Apps (Grindr/Hornet/JackD/etc) App is a very common way to find ‘encounter’. Of course, this is probably one of the more uncharted territory that comes with its own risk and reward. It is important to state your boundary if you have any (Such as no drugs, no alcohol, etc). Pay attention to emoji / description of the profile If you encounter money boy, looks like the rate is similar to the rate quoted above for Gogo Boy I heard some hotels as safety measures are more strict with guests and that you may have to register him. I think that’s totally cool and add layer of protection Sauna / Baththouse Some famous sauna in Bangkok comes to mind like Krubb, Sauna Mania, R3, etc. These saunas involve an entry fee (500baht?) and has the typical feature of a gay baththouse: change room, dark room, shower, onsen, sauna, movie room, lounge area, etc You can see in advance which day the sauna may have a ‘special peformance’ that night which may involve some group activity which you may participate / just see As with any visit to any gay bathhouse, it is 100% YMMV (Your Mileage may vary). However, if you go in with the expectation just to experience it - especially during night of performance - that on its own can be rewarding to some extent Safety / STD: This need not to be said that you need to pay attention to it. Best practice for STD prevention should be top of mind. At the end of the day, just as with any trip, you may have good experience on certain days and encounter hiccup on another - so don’t worry. We are just learning from each experience and most importantly to have fun Feel free to add any other tips that I may be missing

Day 5 It didn’t start well. It was dawning when I woke up and noticed swollen lip- allergy , which is tormenting me this trip and also at home after return. Good thing I had a pill and took it, returned to bed but sensibly set alarm for 10 am. Zyrtec works as sleeping pill as well and I dd not want to miss breakfast , not to mention bus. Message on Line from CB, he already arrived in Bangkok this morning so I instructed him to wait fort me at 3 pm in the lobby of new Nishitetsu hotel by soi 4 as I decided to check it for one night. Indeed everything worked, 12 noon bus arrived at Swampy at 1.30and it was exactly 2.55 pm when I entered lobby. No CB in sight but I checked in, left them his name and asked them to hive him his own card and went up to the room. All fine, room new and shiny . I already posted some pictures of it in Hotels thread. https://www.gayguides.com/topic/68180-bkk-hotels-pros-cons/page/3/#comment-465959 Particularly impressive was safe fitting one of desk drawers. There’s no window in the room but there’ one in bathroom so there is way of seeing day from night. All in , I liked it and stay there two times- first and last. Reason is economical – for half price I have twice as big room in Raya with the same conveniences. But if you like new and shiny places – go for it by every mean. When in shower I heard door opening – CB arrived and promptly joined me in the shower. Some reunion gymnastics and we went to Foodland to eat something. While strolling around we met one of Moonlight boys and masseur from one of soi 6 shops who also works as go-go at Good Boys after hours. He was surprised to see me and promptly complained I did not tell him I’m coming. I told him “ I like that surprise smile on your face “ which is actually true.. We returned to hotel with me hoping for another round of reunion gymnastics but it seemed CB had other ideas like glue himself to his phone. We met many times and even travelled together but that was side of him I did not know. I guess whole 7 day only visa situation and resulting loss of earnings is stressing him immensely but while I understand it, not necessarily I must to like it. I told him frankly that if he wants to utilize fact that he has free accommodation with me this week he can go to work in bar to get some cash – it’s why, among other things I asked for his own kye card to the room so he can come and go freely. Some how he did not like that idea, asked instead if I will be hitting bars tonight and expressed desire to accompany me there, wherever I will be going. Today’s goal was clear – grand opening of Than Tawan in former The One and earlier Tawan location. Those are my impressions from Grand Opening I posted on the forum already in Patpong thread : “Yesterday I went to new Than Tawan to see their great opening in former The One and earlier , Tawan site. When we entered ( I went with boy at his urging ) only 2 other customers already but by time show started crowd swelled to respectable 12 including young Indian straight couple. To summarize new venue , it's just more of the same we knew from Tawan and The One. When we entered on stage two guys presented themselves, both not bad looking but first time I saw them was in Arena Bank in 2013. I'm kidding you not. So much about fresh blood on the market. Show itself usual blend of lip syncing and muscle flexing, nothing risky or compromising other than simulated BJ and big cock parade. And of course, performers solicit tip after circulating among audience. In short, it's still renamed Tawan or The One. No fresh blood and no fresh ideas. For this who liked all format it's sucessful resurrection. For those hoping for new kind of thrills, we'll look somewhere else. Final note - best looking was one of waiters, unfortunately uniformed all the time” After show, at 11 pm. Or so we went to Jupiter. And those are my impressions already posted : “we went to Jupiter where upon entry at 11.05p.m. We were treated to coveted seats right under the speaker which was blasting at 1. 5 capacity plus something. Noting new there either but show, was well attended and, what I hate there, most of prime seats were reserved for better customers which I understand but still hate. Noting new includes fortunately fact that all guys were very good looking and they managed to add quite a few new bodies I did not see before. Common wisdom in bars is that if guy doesn't wear the number, he is already booked or not available for an off. We'll it is not necessary correct as after show it was, at least for me, quite clear that some non numbered guys are still looking expectantly at customers of both genders. No idea how it works but my advice will be if one has hots for them boy it's better not to trust bar liturgy but get that "no" or even better "yes" from either mamasan or as I would prefer, from boy himself. “ After those bar forays we went to Patpong night market fort banana pancakes and then final to the room for steamy gymnastics. It looks that at night CB has less desire to clutch his phone and can’t say a bad word about his performance but it clearly looks I will need to entertain him in day time and it’s not exactly what I was hoping for . But since I invited him I need to carry on hoping for the best.

Woke up still wrapped in the warmth of last night. Min was sound asleep beside me, one arm across the pillow, hair a little messy, looking like someone who had zero interest in the Songkran chaos outside. I didn’t move for a while. Just lay there, feeling that rare kind of peace and quiet . When we finally stirred and made our way downstairs for breakfast, he was back to his usual self—quiet, polite, and flashing those soft smiles that somehow made the air around us feel calmer. There was something deeply relaxing about his presence. No demands. Just chill. After breakfast, he headed off, and I started getting ready to meet his older brother, T, over at the Starbucks in Surawong. Just as I was stepping out of the room, I got a message from him saying he was up and getting ready too. Down in the hotel parking, the staff were clearly in Songkran mode. Buckets tucked behind the counter, people already a little wet, music playing faintly from someone’s speaker. The housekeeping auntie—who I’ve grown fond of—walked over holding a small container of something grey and smeared it across my cheeks with expert confidence. It smelled earthy, fresh, a little sweet. Later Raposa would tell me it was sandalwood paste, part tradition, part cooling agent, part “let’s make tourists look like locals.” I stayed for a bit, chatting, laughing, letting their playful energy rub off on me. Over at Starbucks, I grabbed my second coffee and settled in. T arrived looking like he hadn’t yet been claimed by the water war. I got him a drink, and he gave my outfit a once-over—shorts, waterproof pouch, sandals. He seemed satisfied, though he noted I wasn’t packing coins for water refills. He said don't worry he'll be taking care of it. He just quietly handled things and I like that vibe from him. That’s kind of his thing. We headed through Patpong, which in broad daylight felt surreal. The whole place looked like it was taking a nap—shuttered bars, neon signs turned off, a few shopkeepers hosing down their sidewalks. It felt more like a movie set after wrap than the fever-dream it usually becomes at night. At Silom, we stopped to get proper soakers. The stall had everything from tiny pistols to full-blown backpack cannons. I picked a decent mid-range one, something that said "I came to play" but not "I have unresolved rage issues." Before I could even reach for my wallet, T had already paid for both of us. He shrugged it off saying I can pay him later, no fuss. And then came the surprise: we wouldn’t just be a duo. Min was joining us again, along with their younger sister and her Vietnamese friend, who’d flown in specifically for Songkran. The dynamic shifted quickly. I suddenly felt like I was part of a family outing I hadn’t been officially invited to. Two brothers, a sister, a guest. And me—the wildcard. It hit me for a moment. How do I fit here? Do I introduce myself as the guy who just woke up next to your brother? The one who’s now tagging along with the other one? It was absurd and vaguely hilarious being the mystery guest among siblings. And not just any guest—the guy who's slept with at least two of them. Internally, I panicked. What’s the etiquette here? "Hi, I’m the guy from your brothers’ shared folder?" But the feeling didn’t last long. The girls were chatty and disarming. They pulled me in effortlessly. Min, maybe because he was with family, was more playful than I’d seen him—joking around, tossing water like he had a score to settle. T kept checking on me in his quiet way. Making sure I wasn’t lagging, that I had enough water, that I was having fun. He didn’t hover, but he was always near. Silom was already packed. Buckets being flung from everywhere, hoses spraying down strangers, foam cannons blasting into the air. It was overcast, with a bit of drizzle, which made everything feel cool and almost cinematic. No one was spared. Old women. Kids. Tourists. Everyone got drenched and no one cared. Music pounded from storefronts, the kind of repetitive EDM that makes you forget what time it is. We walked the full length of the road and back. My shirt clung to my skin. Water pooled in my sandals. I was freezing and grinning like a fool. The crowd was just right—not yet overwhelming, but still electric. Eventually, back near Saladaeng, the group decided they’d had enough. The girls looked happy, Min seemed ready to hibernate, and the energy had mellowed. One by one, they started to head off. T said he was heading home too—to his own place, which I learned wasn’t the same one Min stays in. We stood there a bit, just the two of us now. He didn’t seem in a hurry, but he wasn’t lingering either. I felt a pull—not dramatic, just a quiet nudge that said I wasn’t quite ready to be alone yet. Maybe it was how he'd looked after me all day. Maybe I just wanted to end the day on my own terms. So I asked if he wanted to come back to my place instead. It wasn’t rehearsed. I didn’t dress it up. I just asked. And I meant it in that very specific way where you're not asking for more, but you're hoping the moment lasts a little longer. He looked at me, calm as ever, and nodded. That was enough. Back at the hotel, we peeled off our soaked clothes and we showered off the grime, the chalky paste, and whatever questionable liquid had landed on us earlier. The hot water felt like a full-body reset. No rush, no expectations. When we finally collapsed into bed, it wasn’t about anything but rest. No deep talk. No big moment. Just two people wiped out from the same strange, happy kind of day.

The day started the best way any Bangkok day can start: with Nine. Yes, that Nine. Those of you who've followed my trip reports for a while will know exactly who I mean—my long-standing, tried-and-true favourite. Even back in the days when I wasn’t fully sold on Banana Bar, I still showed up for him. Because Nine? He’s worth it. And of course, he delivered. As always. Same great vibe, same easy charm, same experience that leaves you wondering how he can be effortlessly Delightful.” At this point, we’ve built up a familiarity that just makes everything click. No awkward warm-ups or polite small talk—it’s like catching up with an old friend, if that friend also happens to be very good at massages and even better at everything that comes after. After our usual post-fun breakfast, Nine gave his customary gentle nudge—reminding me I can always text him if I want to meet outside the bar. Just include the off fee if it’s during work hours, and he’s there. I made a mental note. Having a reliable option like Nine on standby? A luxury worth treasuring—especially for those times when you need to recover from a less-than-great massage session or bar off. Feeling recharged and smugly content, I decided to get a jump on my shopping list before the impending Songkran madness turned my plan into a splash zone. Off to Platinum Mall I went, armed with a list, a vague sense of direction, and a wildly optimistic belief that my feet would hold out. Several hours and several bags later, my legs were sending out distress signals. I surrendered, paused for a quick food court lunch, and added in a foot massage for good measure. It helped. Sort of. But my inner hedonist wasn’t quite satisfied. Enter: Prince Spa. But first, coffee. Suan Phlu’s midday heat had me on the verge of dozing off on the sidewalk. That’s when I stumbled across a little gem—Nola Café. Cute, cool, and most importantly: they serve fresh beignets. Now, I don’t know about you, but finding hot, fluffy beignets in Bangkok is like finding a unicorn at the mall. For 245 baht, I was treated to six pillowy beignets, each dusted with just the right amount of powdered sugar, paired with a strong Americano that was basically rocket fuel for the soul. It was the kind of sweet, delicious moment that made me forget about the heat and get a little too comfortable in my food coma. Buzzed and sugar-fueled, I made my way to Prince Spa. You know the ritual—take a seat, sip your drink, stop yourself from choking from your drink and attempt the impossible: picking just one guy from a sea of gorgeous. It’s like being on the judging panel of Thailand’s Next Top Something. Then I spotted him—stocky, toned, with a broad build that reminded me of the Saboten Escorts in Tokyo. I pointed him out, and a moment later, he was striding toward me. “Hi, I’m Maxie,” he said, flashing a smile that could charge your phone. Maxie was, in a word, EXTRA. He’s just full of positivity and cheer, and his vibe? Think overly affectionate golden retriever meets flirty cartoon sidekick. He practically bounced into the shower with me, where he proceeded to turn a simple rinse into an aquatic comedy sketch—splashing, laughing, cheeky little nudges. Then came the massage. And look, “massage” might be generous. It was less “targeted muscle relief” and more “theatre of affection.” Every few minutes, Maxie would pause to nibble, cuddle, tickle, or whisper, “Are you happy?” with the earnestness of someone handing you a newborn puppy. His hands wandered as often as his thoughts, and the whole thing felt like I’d accidentally booked a spa day with an excitable boyfriend. To his credit, he did dial it up during the extras—suddenly shifting gears into something more sensual. But just as quickly, he bounced back to full Maxie-mode: affectionate, giggly, and absolutely incapable of sitting still. It was chaotic. It was oddly wholesome. And honestly? I kind of low key loved it. He’s not someone I’d book when I’m in the mood for quiet, slow-burning intensity. But for a day when you want a bit of light-hearted fun and nonstop serotonin? Maxie’s your guy. He made me laugh, feel doted on, and left me in that weirdly specific post-session state of both relaxed and slightly confused. Back at the hotel, I crashed for a nap—still smiling, slightly ticklish, and with powdered sugar memories lingering in my mind. Next stop: Atlas Bar.

About week after I retuned from Aug 2024 trip I spotted extremely good airfare to Bangkok for mid January and decided to buy it even if I had my doubts I will be able to utilize it for many of reasons. Main one being my Mother’s mantra I already mentioned few times before “if you don’t have money for vacation , don’t go” . One thing she did not know was line of credit though. Even brief , weeklong November foray , which turned very pleasant did not convince me to break that unspoken rule. I gave myself till New Year Eve to make decision. And of course, what else , I decided to utilize that ticket. So new Year Day I spent on my computer booking hotels and airfares. Then disaster struck – I learned that my friend is landing in Bangkok at the same time. He may be friend but not kind of one I would like to accompany me in my Silom affairs for simple reason – he is babbler known for saying first and thinking distant second. As travel companion he is also bit imperial and selfish when comes to programs. In short , better to be met in social setting , not on the road. Since not much I could do I left it to be solved when in Swampy. Ticket was cheap but there was price for it – very early departure at 6 am, three legs so involving two connections on the way and late arrival I Bangkok, just before midnight. It worked, all three fights arrived 30-60 minutes before scheduled time and only complain I have was that cabin in United flight to Narita was cold. I had sweater but could use winter jacket which was tucked in check-in luggage as I did not expect I will need it until I return home. Of course while standing in long but fast moving immigration line I was spotted by my friend so my cover was blown right there. My luggage was already waiting for me , his came quite fast and we shared taxi to our hotels , first his in Sukhumvit and than mine in soi 3. I was in my room just before 1 am and decided to take shower and do survey of the area. As it was past bar closing time I spotted few known faces dining here and there , with friends or alone. On Suriwong there was guy I offed last trip who immediately offered his companionship but I declined and it was his fault. He cut our session short under some pretext which in my book is criminal and results in blacklisting. Hot Male beer bar still had few customers and P was free so I offered him a drink which led to his suggestion that since bar is closing soon he may walk me to my hotels. He is not a person I would reject such an offer so I agreed immediately shyly suggesting we may even have coffee together in the room. Not sure I used word ‘ coffee ‘ but whatever it was he got it and added ‘ till morning ‘. Now we are talking ! Soon I paid 600 off fee and world saw us walking briskly to soi 3. We met before few times but this session was by mile the best. I like straight boys who are clingy and not faking it. He left me at 7.30 declining breakfast invitation , no doubt wanted to catch some sleep. Day 1 For breakfast I went to Foodland, where else ? in meantime message Raposa I’m heading there and soon after he joined me for a meal and news exchange. After we parted ways I went to XOne to exchange money and around noonish I went to meet me friend thinking about excuses to create free evening. It was easier than I thought. After taking boat along Saen Sap canal and doing some sightseeing in Khao San area we returned by the boat to Saphan Taksin , had a meal in the area and decided to part ways even if it was still daylight for simple reason – jet lag decided to intervene. In hotel I collapsed on the bed but not before I set my alarm clock for 9.pm. I’m not one to waste vacation time. As for first bar visit this trip there was no doubt where I will go , Atlas of course . I was greeted enthusiastically by barker outside who remembered I helped him when he had period of sleeping in the rough and by cabal of boys knowing me from Tawan and even Arena. Can’t say I was very impressed with selection but certain I’d pick up one of 4-5 guys there. There were few twinks I’d consider too. Face of one waiter was familiar and it turned out few years ago he was one of stars at Jupiter I had hots for but of course those days he did not even look my way. He lost some muscles but face is still handsome. Perhaps I should give him consideration in future for old times sake. 8 red notes distributed, to that guy, one of singers , James and Ken sitting with me , J/O contestant, f***k show performers and two big c***k showmen. I liked the show as it included full set of numbers. Just before midnight I crossed the soi to climb stairs to Hot Male where S was waiting for me forewarned about my intentions earlier. Show was on and I entered exactly at big c**k show moment so another 200 went for the needy but well endowed. We went to Foodland for a meal and then home .S never disappoints and never rushes to go home, so it looks this trip so far I’m doing well.

Hello fellow connoisseurs of sexy guys. I've had the pleasure of posting and getting feedback while on the first part of my trip in Bangkok. Now that I've made it to Tokyo it makes sense to share my experiences here. Since I'm starting this thread anew I hope you'll indulge a bit of content about my points/miles redemptions. Now let's get to brass tax. I arrived at Tokyo Narita airport at around 6am and my hotel check in at the Hyatt Regency was not until 2pm so I decided to be leisurely and methodical in my movements as not to rush or make mistakes in this place that is new to me. Ate some sashimi at the airport for breakfast and made my way to the train station on the lower level of the airport. Used the 7/11 branded ATM and took out 10k yen in 1k notes. The Tokyo public transit system has a reputation in my mind of being efficient yet potentially complex for newbies. So I went to the ticket counter and was sold two tickets that got me a train to Nippori station and then on a subway ride to Shinjuku. Made it there with no errors. I arrived at the hotel at noon and was told that my room would not be ready until 2pm but that I could upgrade to a similar room with a Mt.Fuji view for only $47 more and that would allow me immediate check in. I took the offer seeing as the hotel was already free for the night because I used my annual Hyatt category 1-4 free night cert. The card has a $100 annual fee so this hotel is worth way more than that. It's soon to become a category 5 hotel so will no longer be in range of my free night cert once the hotel renovations are complete. Alright I'll stop with the points stuff for now. My original plan was to go to King of College and get a better understanding of how their system works. I walked to it from my hotel about 30 minutes away. Once I'd got to the right location I still hadn't got a response from KOC account on the Line app. I sent them a message but there was also an error I was getting when trying to add them on Line. I'll have my Line issues fixed by the next time I come to Asia for sure. The way I think King of College works is that you walk in and if it's your first time then a bartender should tell you how the system works. I think this might cost you 1700 yen. I'm interested if this is kind of like a host bar concept where if you really like one of the guys you can pay to take it further. It seems like you'd be buying them drinks and such also while they entertain you. I'll save this for later because I ended up walking about 7 minutes further to Danshi Gakuen. I could not add them on the Line app so I used their English language website's 'contact us' function. I asked if they were open for walk-ins and that I was outside. They said yes and to press the intercom when you get to the third floor. I preferenced DG over KoC because of the ultra quick response time. I'd say less than 5 minutes passed before getting a response when I messaged them. The response was sent to my email. I went up and talked to the manager and he brought me inside. We heavily relied on Google Translate. He said there were three guys on property and that I could look through an album. I assume this meant that they could try to get a boy from elsewhere to rush over if they were available. I was able to narrow down who was available on their website using the narrowing functions of 1)Workday(who was available today) 2)Age(from youngest descending to oldest) 3) Straight. So going in I had my eye on a couple of guys and it just so happened that one of my picks was already here. The manager had him walk in and smile at me so I could confirm he was accurately portrayed in the pictures. I agreed and said that I would like to book him for 12 hours for 34k yen(about $230) The manager asked if I was looking for anything anal related and I said no which was good because they guy I selected is straight and not up for that. I said I would like kissing and 'boyfriend experience' and he knew exactly what I meant. Once the manager confirmed with the boy I paid in cash at 7pm and they said the 12 hours begins at 9pm and ends at 9am and comes with a room in the building and use of a shower/toilet. I rushed back to my hotel and packed some essentials and rushed back and made it there with 15 minutes to spare as the frozen rain was hitting me. I went up the stairs and my boy was there to greet me. I changed my shoes for slippers at the entrance. He took me to the room and the night began. We got acquainted and he was so wonderful to me. His English was better than my Japanese and he seemed to delight in communicating with me. We soon stripped off and he used the phone in the room to request the use of the shower. I think they do this system as to protect the privacy of the clients because some people do not want to be seen here by others. Also obviously to make sure the shower is not currently being used. After a shower and teeth brushing we hopped into bed. It was freezing outside so cuddling with him was just what this Florida guy needed. We fooled around for maybe 80 minutes. Once we both got off we started talking about getting a meal somewhere since the night was young. This was exactly what I was hoping for. I love getting a local guide to take me around and show me what they enjoy. He ended up taking me to his favorite local ramen spot. He loved telling me about the differences in the tenderness of the noodles and such. I ended up eating a bowl and one portion of extra noodles and he actually had two extra noodle portions. Such a sexy 121 lb guy. He does Aikido and soccer so his body was delightful. A nice touch was that he paid the 100 yen for my extra noodles even though it's stipulated that I must pay all expenses. We talked earlier and he surmised that we had a mutual enjoyment of bowling so we went bowling for two games. I won't divulge our scores because they were lackluster. We were competitive the first game and I crushed him the second. When it was over I insisted on paying but he pulled out two cards and handed it to the cashier. Not sure if they were free certificates but it was a kind gesture of him to do that even though I was supposed to cover all expenses. We then had another enjoyable walk through Kabukicho and Golden Gai passed all the tourists, intoxicated people, and scammers. I loved his commentary and questions. The whole way he held an umbrella over us which I found so sweet of him. We got back to the room at about 1am where we shared another shower and jumped back in bed. I could tell he was ready for sleep so I would not be persistent in nagging him to get sexual if I sensed he wasn't into it. We cuddled and kissed some more and eventually fell asleep. I told him I'll try not to wake him up or touch him overnight and he said he didn't mind. So I was able to caress him and kiss him at various points throughout the night. At about 8:30am his alarms started to go off every 5 minutes which I found comical. By 9am I was dressed and saying goodbye to him at the door. We hugged and I left. I thoroughly enjoyed that experience. I imagine many of you might be more into the sex parts versus my preference for a boyfriend experience and local guide and cuddle partner. That's okay we all have preferences. Now the question is, should I check out of my hotel and book another night with the same guy at DG before someone else does? This option also saves me money that I would have to spend on a hotel for the night so if you factor that into the price of 12 hours for the boy/room it's phenomenal in my mind. I did say that I would go to King of College to scope it out for Vinapu so I need to figure out a plan for that. King of College has an Instagram account and the last two nights around 8:30pm they posted a story that says who is available at the bar. One guy looks tempting but his face is blurred so that's a potential red flag for me. I guess I can always just walk away and pay only 1700 yen. The price at DG for 90 minutes was something like 15k yen so I just ran the numbers in my mind and 34k yen for 12 hours just seemed the most bang for the buck. Well, that's all for now I need to see some cultural sights before choosing my next boy wherever that may be. I don't have hotels yet for my last few nights in Japan so I could stay in Tokyo longer or jump to Osaka anytime.

I spent a week in PP catching up with a Canadian friend and we visited a lot of the specified places together. I have tried to be as factual as possible and I’d like to thank FloridaRob, vinapu and Harrystiilees for the info they gave me before my trip. A few general observations: Since my last visit 10 years ago, the traffic seems to have increased dramatically and certainly the car is king here. Be very careful crossing roads as some traffic do not adhere to traffic lights and pavements in many parts of the city are non existent. I felt safe wandering around the city but do ensure that you have enough lower denomination dollar notes as higher denominations can be difficult to spend. Tuk tuks plentiful and $2-3 dollars seemed to be the standard fare. Bars I visited Space Bar which was next to my hotel (Sun and Moon) twice. I met the owners, one of whom is from Spain and their adorable dogs that are friendly and in the bar. The waiters/hosts are incredibly fit and hot and tend to be more muscular and they will sit with you if you buy them a drink. Some guys spoke reasonable English and got very playful as the evening progressed. Some guys took their shirts off after midnight and were quite touchy feely. Very flirtatious but it ended there. The drinks were of a very good quality and it was. Fun place to visit with an interesting mix of local boys and visiting tourists and expat locals. I visited again and the same host guys I talked to on the first visit tended to monopolise my table despite the fact I was interested in talking to some of the other guys. It is the luck of the draw if you choose guys to sit with you who can’t really communicate except by translation apps. Around 12 host guys there when I visited. I would certainly recommend this friendly and laid back bar as a fun start or end to your evening. Fantastic eye candy. We spent a great evening at Toolbox bar. Doug the owner is a lovely, approachable guy and was happy to chat and give advice about PP. We went around 9pm on a Fri and there are about 20 host guys and 6 customers but the bar got busier with visitors from 10pm onwards. It was a great atmosphere especially as the boys did a number of interesting dance routines on the pool table! Very much a party atmosphere and the music was varied and fun. The boys are certainly of the twink variety and they were friendly, good looking and tactile. Drinks of a great quality and the bar also serves a selection of hot food. This was the bar that we enjoyed ourselves the most in PP and we stayed around 4 hours. Well worth a visit if only to see the beautiful boys there. We visited Blue Chili which seemed to be a large venue but didn’t stay as we were the only customers there. When passing again on a Friday evening, the place seemed completely packed and people were queuing to get in. It seemed to have a mixed crowd and we were told the busiest nights are Friday and Saturday. Massage I had some variable experiences during my time in PP. I visited Paradise Massage which is above the POC bar. Only one guy available to give massage and he was a young twinky type. Massage ($15 for an hour oil massage) was quite poor with little technique and expertise. I ended the massage early as it was not enjoyable. The premises look quite run down and general cleanliness was an issue. I would not recommend this place. I visited Hatha Khmer twice and I was delighted by the massages there. There were around 15 guys to choose from when I visited and you choose your guy from behind a window where they assemble, a bit like arena in BKK. A good range of guys that would satisfy most tastes. The first massage was an hour’s oil massage ($10) and the guy certainly was experienced and knew what he was doing. An excellent, firm massage and the $30 dollar tip was well deserved for the many extras he provided. The second massage was an hour and a half oil massage for $15 and the different masseur was good but not as firm or experienced as the first guy and this showed in his massage technique. The invariable fun that followed was prolonged and unrushed and a $30 tip was well earned. He even offered to bring another masseur into the massage room for fun if I wanted that. I was very happy with the venue which was clean and well decorated, the choice of hot guys as well as the quality of the massage and the extras. Well recommended. Saunas I visited 2 saunas during my stay. Love Spa is just around the corner from Hatha Khmer massage. It was $3 entry and it was quite busy at 5pm mid week. As far as I could gather I was the only Western guy there and the guys were primarily Cambodian. When changing, it was a bit disconcerting to have around 5 massage guys watching me and asking constantly if I needed a massage. Certainly the most aggressive approach I came across in Cambodia. The thing about this spa is that the spa areas and corridors are completely dark and it is like walking in a darkroom. For me, this was quite dangerous as I tripped over as I couldn’t see where I was going. I decided to leave as for me, it was an accident waiting to happen. My friend was staying at Arthur and Paul hotel. I visited on a Saturday night to go to the spa and it started to get busy after 9pm. $10 entry fee. The bar area is spacious and lovely and the pool area is a good place to relax, swim and talk to other guys. There seemed to be a lot of younger Cambodian guys in attendance. Again, the issue for me was the lack of light and the spa area and showers were too dark for me to walk around safely. Guys are friendly around the bar, pool area and changing room and this is a great place to link up with cute Cambodian guys. My friend, who was staying at the hotel enquired about the darkness level and one of the Cambodian guys stated that Cambodian guys are quite shy and don’t want to be seen having sex in a spa! As an addendum, my friend loved staying at A and P and raved about the breakfast, staff and massages which he deemed to be excellent ($20 for an hour plus tip). The staff here are good looking guys who will look after you if you decide to stay at the hotel. Apps I got lots of messages from guys on the usual apps (Grindr, Hornet and Heesay) but did not manage to hook up with anyone due to time constraints. I hope you find this info useful. I’m back to Thailand now for a Christmas and a break! Happy Christmas!

Day 2 In the morning breakfast in Foodland together, greeted by knowing smiles of staff there but those were nice , not contemptuous knowing smiles. In the early afternoon jet lag made me collapsing on the bed for few hours and when I woke up I decided to check GLAM, new shiny and upscale massage place near Suthisan MRT station. Bkkmfj visited that place and started thread about it in August . Guy on reception recognized me from my visits to Jey Spa where he worked and told me those two are closely related , sharing most boys because one of co-owners co-owns Jey as well. He lead me upstairs where they have glass behind which there were only two boys One of them Mek would be my choice but was waiting for his appointment already and another guy, likely seeing unsightly, grey haired troll i.e. me claimed is not feeling well. Mamasan helpfully suggested he nearby has on call guy named Maii which was perfect solution as I already met him few times at Jey. I was ushered to room , very sizable with equally sizable shower so fee of 1290 for 90 mins reflects quality of the place. Waiting for Maii I took shower and soon we had surprised reunion. I was happy to notice that guy’s smile was rather not fake. Another case of known quality so I left happy , upping his minimum tip by 400. Dinner at G’Bangkok , then meeting with Keithambrose in his hotel and we went to new bar Dragon and Koi across from Foodland. Keith made already relation from our time there in bar’s thread. We were surprised that there boys started dancing on the bar bare chested. Since we both liked the same guy we invited him for a drink later on but there was not much of conversation since his English was of Google Translate variety. We did not stay long there as Keith was to leave next morning. On top of Patpong two we parted ways with me going to my most favorite bar – Moonlight. Cabal of barkers outside greeted me enthusiastically and so did few mamasans not to mention several smiles from boys on the stage. Some veterans of previous offs , others remembering me from previous visits , they were few who should recognize me but pretended not to. Fine with me. My favorite Y was there and I wasted no time to call him over for drink. Soon we settled on short time as he is not doing long times ever since he got a girl. Few trips ago A, muscular semi god from there noticed that I look at Y admirably suggested I off both of them. Tonight story repeated as this time Y recalled I told him last time I like a lot his compatriot #10 as asked me why I don’t take them both. Music to my ears. Dinner at Happy Beer garden , Joy there repeated her mantra that we are the same ‘ you like boys and I like boys” and then stroll to the hotel. As much as it was enjoyable there were some awkwardness tonight as they are close friends and even if none of them was shy I sensed that they are not hat comfortable so I threaded carefully and it worked. It can be said I did not enjoy them together but enjoyed to a greatest degree each of them separately. Fact that Y is very familiar around me cured other guy initial apprehensiveness. Another great night. At 2 they left and I slept exhausted and jet lagged till 11.20 am of day 3 without any interruption.

Yes I do - already since 2 years and 2 months I get up at the crack of dawn and go to the gym - my training starts at 7:50am - I finish the gym between 9:55am and 10:10am. Then I go eat breakfast at Tinnies (the Australian place with the BEST bacon in all of Pattaya - in my opinion). Then depending on the day, I grab a Bolt from Jomtien into almost North Pattaya where I go for my ED Shockwave treatment at 11:30am and that lasts for around 35 to 40 minutes - then I take a motorbike taxi to the TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) clinic - near Boyztown. That lasts for about 10 to 15 minutes if it is not a day when they need to draw blood for the monthly stats. Then the baht bus back to Jomtien, run local errands - like to FoodMart and/or 7-Eleven or to go see my viagra/cialis lady to stock up the supply. Then home for a 2 hour nap. Then around 5pm or 6pm one of my 4 hands massage coordinators brings himself and another guy to massage me and have some fun. Then clean up, myself, the bed, shower area and if one of them wants to go eat we usually go outside of the Jomtien Complex to grab a bite - it is usually Thai food. Then head into the Jomtien Complex for a drink and by 9pm or 10pm I am craving my bed to catch up on some internet and/or watch some YouTube and then fall asleep. Rinse and repeat and before you know it the week has finished. On non gym days (there are 3) then my schedule is more free and I walk on the beach, or go to Koh Larn, or go into Central Pattaya to one of the malls, go see a movie - catch up with friends, etcetra You don't need to cross that busy road (Thappraya) - you can live in one of the many beach condos that are all within walking distance of the Jomtien Supertown Complex and the gay Dongtan beach. They are: View Talay 7 Jomtien Complex Condotel Grand Condotel View Talay 5 (there are 2) Jomtien Plaza Condotel Of course you will pay more because the above condos are on or very near to the beach. On the other side of the busy Thappraya road - there is View Talay 2 (2 buildings) and also View Talay 1 (2 buildings) that are much cheaper than the above listed on-the-beach condo list. Yes - easily. Just realize to put into your budget 2 important factors: Boy tax - everytime you bring one to your room or do them in a massage and/or short time room there is a fee - these can become very expensive - so make sure that you have a way to finance all of this or you might need to join the PFC, NEW Thai government taxation (effective from 01-Jan-2024) on money that you bring into Thailand (i.e., remittances) as Assessable Income --> my Boy tax is already too high so when the government decided to get greedy - as I am already spending a considerable amount of my discretionary income in the local Thai economy - I decided that from 2025 forward I will only live in Thailand for less than 180 days for each alternating year - thus giving the money that I would have spent in Thailand to other nearby countries (The Philippines and Vietnam). I do not agree with this statement. It is easier to make expat friends with these 2 types of expats: those here on vacation, those who live here seasonally. I found that the expats that live here full time are not easy to make friends with and in fact I have given up on this endeavor - and I instead concentrate making Thai friends. Even my 1 local expat friend, JD100, is leaving Thailand due to this difficulty to make friends with the full time expats that live here. There seems to be some kind of acid in the local water - as I cannot explain it but better to leave the hornets nest alone. Yes I agree for 2 primary reasons: 1.) it can become too expensive, 2.) if you go into the Jomtien Complex too often the excitement wears off when the emphasis of 98% of the bar owners is that you as the farang = "farang sit and farang drink" - as I do not like to sit in a chair all night and I do not like to drink it becomes VERY lethargic and boring and unhealthy. There is no excitement and there is no decent place where you can stand up and expend some energy - like a great place to dance with good music. So, one of the nighttime alternatives can be to walk over to the gay volleyball on Dongtan beach near the Pattaya waterpark and Sea Rescue. When I do it is a fun night because although I cannot play (I am not good enough) I can jump up and down and cheerlead the guys on and run after the stray balls to avoid that they get wet in the shoreline waves. It is a social event where you walk around and not only sit on your ass all night - so it is not lethargic as a night out in the Jomtien Complex can be. This is incorrect. All of the View Talays were built before this current fad to copy HongKong style small cramped dwellings - so I find the View Talays to be rather large. Mine is 98 sqm with 2 sea facing balconies - more than enough for 1 person. I have looked at many of the newer constructed beach condos and they are mostly all very small and VERY expensive. My goal is to be in walking distance of the Jomtien Complex - so most of the newer constructed cramped buildings are too far away and would require that you either buy a motorbike and have to worry about having an accident or create a BIG dependency on BOLT for transportation purposes.

Unfortunately on Thursday night I wasn’t feeling well so I stayed in bed all night which continued onto all of Friday. It was mostly my allergies and unfortunately i didn’t bring any allergy meds, first gen antihistamines make me drowsy but rarely work so I tried some tiffy which made me sleep. I looked up online if they had mine prescription antihistamine and they did under a different name so on Saturday morning I went off to retrieve which has helped me recover. on Saturday I went down to the bars again, I was early so I walked around a bit. I remembered banana room started their show early so I headed over, when I entered it was packed, nearly every seat filled, I sat in the back last row to the left of the stage, I watched the show a few of the drag queens did quite well and I tipped, some of them tried to lip sync to English songs but it was obvious they didn’t know the words and only trying to voice the syllables, I think it would look more impressive if they lip synced to a thai song as some of the other performers did. Once again we had the nude shower show and the cock parade. I like this bar as overall seems to be less pressure, you are allowed to take a look in first to decide if you want to go in, mamasan comes around and asked if anyone you like but if you simply say “I’m still looking” they don’t push further. The show was over and unfortunately the boy I had my eye on went to join someone who had bought a bottle, another boy I had my eye on joined a couple who was preparing to off two boys, what a fun night for them, on stage only 8 boys remained, compared to other clubs it seems like banana room has the least guys on stage. Now I didn’t want to pick someone who wasn’t interested in me, atleast faking interest. On stage only one boy waved at me and showed interest, the papasan came around and I asked to buy this boy a drink, he called him down and he joined me, where he cuddled up with me very fast, he asked me all the standard questions and then I asked his position and he said “anything you like” however for me I want someone who can preform so I asked what you like more, and he told me, his English wasn’t the greatest so I asked where he was from to ensure I was translating to the correct language and we discussed fees. I agreed and since the show was over asked if he wanted to go now or stay and watch next show, he said he would get dressed, I called papasan over to pay fees. I discussed with papasan, papasan who is very friendly, why I choose boy, I told him he smiled at me and waved. I told him I look got a boy who shows interest if I take back I don’t want a dead fish. He understood and hopefully he can give some advice to the other boys. boy was dress and off we went, everything went well, he really did do “anything you like” I was tired from the previous two days and didn’t want to complete however he said Noo, I’m happy if you finish too. Which was nice made everything seem less transactional. We showered discussed bangkok a little bit and off he went. on Sunday I wanted to visit the chatuchak market, this is a huge market. I specifically went to buy some souvenirs and take in the experience, I was pleasantly surprised to find a lot of the prices cheaper than malls such as platinum. I took the mrt back through to lumphini park and walked through as this was something I had not done yet. After I took a grab back to my hotel. I relaxed for a bit and then decided I was just gonna pack tonight and stay in and relax. Even tho it’s my last night in bangkok I did need a rest I had a great time and I will definitely be back, likely the same time as this year. Most thunderstorms were overnight with only a couple in the venting early morning, it did not last long. I will likely visit some other areas such as pattaya next time. Hiring Mac at the beginning of the trip was great as he showed me how transit works, showed me the area around my hotel to eat, get laundry done, and explained things to look out for. I would definitely recommend hiring guide for first timers to learn the ins and outs, if not atleast learn how to use transit. Bangkok traffic is no joke, 3km turns into an hour long trek and the skytrain can save you so much time. my hotel furama was great. I stayed in an executive suite so I cannot speak to the other floors. I only ate breakfast once but it had everything you can expect from a western breakfast plus other cultures as well. The executive club is nice to unwind and have a drink. They provide snacks all day and some lights meals in the evening, the pool area has fake grass around the area now, pool water appeared to be tested everyday and was comfortable temperature, the city looks great at night from the rooftop pool area. maid service was amazing. She did not speak English but she didn’t get bothered when I fumbled a bit with google translate to request extra towels. She always ensured I had plenty of bottled water (sometimes I had 4 in the fridge and 6 on the counter) even when I got up late or left and came back she still did the room as late as 5 pm! Amazing service, I’m sure it helped I tipped everyday but it’s not much by western standards and the service she provided made my experience a lot more comfortable, the front desk staff and door men were friendly, never judging when bringing people back, even when I brought two. the only downside is the keys, they reuse hotel key cards so over time they wear out, so simply placing them in contact with your cellphone can erase the data causing the key not to work in the door, they did give me three keys, one for the electricity. And two for me. So I kept extra key in my wallet just in case. tomorrow I leave in the afternoon, it was suggested I simply use grab. So hopefully they won’t be mad that I have 1 large suitcase 1 carryon and my backpack. special thanks to everyone on this forum who posted. I read a lot over the few months before my trip to prepare myself and I feel like without these tips I would not have ventured out to the bars or even gotten as far as I did, so a big thank you! 🙏

CEBU Trip Report – Part Ia (28 & 29 December 2024) This is my active ongoing trip report for Cebu City in the Philippines. I am in the Philippines for 62 days as part of my tax minimization plan, as discussed in this previous post: https://www.gayguides.com/topic/61065-bangkok-trip-report-august-2024/page/5/#comment-419422 The other objective is to see if I can find a retiree place that is similar to what I have back in Jomtien Thailand, in the Philippines. Consequently, I will search for hirise condos that are on or near the beach with balconies with sea views – as is commonly found in Jomtien. This will prove to be a difficult task as discussed further on in this trip report. 28 December 2024, in the afternoon, I leave Jomtien in the late afternoon for the Amari hotel via a new car service that Youtube blogger “Pete on Retreat”, my friend’s Thai girlfriend started, Koi Taxi, who drove me to the Amari hotel at Don Muang airport. My Thai boyfriend was with me to say goodbye and many tears were shed as the car service pulled away. Fee was 1,800 baht. My flight on 29 December was at 6:30 am, so I wanted to already be at the airport when I woke up at 3:30am the following day. I chose this Amari hotel because it is physically connected with a pedestrian bridge that crosses the busy Don Muang Toll Way and puts you directly into the international departure area. I did a test run (walk) before going to sleep – which allowed me to get a good night’s sleep for the journey to an unknown country for me. The Amari is not cheap but convenient, I paid 4,237.20 baht for 1 night. I chose the Cebu Pacific 6:35am flight, as it is a non-stop direct flight from Bangkok into Cebu (Mactan airport). This is the only direct flight that I could find and only occurs 1 time per day at this very inconvenient departure hour. The flight is only 4 hours with a 1 hour time zone change – with the Philippines being 1 hour earlier than Thailand. Cost was around € 500 euro, as I wanted a flexible ticket with enough luggage allowance for a 62 day trip. Flight was great and non-eventful arriving slightly ahead of schedule. I collected my luggage and then headed towards the immigration control. As I had already registered for my eTravel QR code (and printed it) back in Jomtien I was able to bypass the chaos that those passengers who had not yet done so had to do on their mobile phones. I presented myself at the immigration desk and the lady was somewhat annoyed with me. She said, Sir, you cannot stay for 62 days without a proper advance reserved visa. I apologized and I explained to her that I was not aware of this requirement. She then wanted to know my purpose for my visit and then agreed to give me the non-Visa maximum of 30 days, which she then stamped into my passport. She told me that around day 29, I should go to the immigration office in Cebu City and ask for another 29 days ( this will give me 59 days in total – so I am not sure what I will need to do for the final 3 days ? ). Then I went to collect my luggage and went to eat, as I needed to kill time, as my arrival time was way too early – as my AirBnB check-in time was for 2pm. So, I ate slowly in some random Filipino restaurant and had my first Filipino meal – lots of rice, some weird pork things with some vegetables. It was so-so and I was not impressed. Important notation: Back in Jomtien, I had already purchased an eSim with my preferred provider = , for which I paid $32 USD for 20GB of data for a 30 day validity. I have used them previously in Vietnam and I was happy with the service. I activated my pre-purchased eSim while I was waiting for my luggage to arrive. This allowed me to reserve a car and/or taxi via the app. You need to remember that the eSim offered by Airolo does not include a local phone number, so you should preload the apps that you might want to use in the Philippines, PRIOR to arriving into the country, as they often require that you have a local phone number for SIM verification. I found this out the hard way on 20 Jan 2025, when I tried to order a motorbike taxi via the Grab app – when Grab told me that I instead needed to install the Move It app , which allows you to order motorbike taxis. Unfortunately, the local Philippine version of Grab does not include the Move It capabilities yet – even though Grab has bought Move It back in August 2022. The only way that I can install the Move It app is if I agree to buy a physical local SIM card that would assign me a Philippine phone number. Note that to find your pre-ordered Grab car/taxi it is not very clear where to go. You should exit the Mactan airport international arrivals section and walk to the Domestic arrivals section and then walk past that building following the walkway towards the parking lots Arrival Bay C-1-C4 and then wait there for your car there. Here is a guide with pictures prepared by Grab: https://www.grab.com/global/airport-rides/mactan-cebu-international-airport/#:~:text=Arrivals&text=1.,at%20the%20pick%2Dup%20point. My Grab fee was 572 pesos (~$9.78 USD), not bad for the 45 minute ride from Mactan island into Cebu City. Below map displays the Airport and then my first AirBnB. It is important to note that I have strategically decided to live in 3 different neighborhoods in the Cebu City metro area as follows: 2 are within Cebu City: first in what is known as the CBP = Cebu Business Park, second in what is known as the Cebu IT Park. I am considering the above 2 places as my comparator to living within the city limits of Pattaya city from the point of view as an elderly retiree. 1 in Newtown on Mactan island – as my comparator to living in Jomtien from the point of view as an elderly retiree. As of the writing of this report, I have completed the first condo living in CBP, and now I am in day 5 of my second AirBnB condo living in the CEBU IT Park. I arrived at the Cityscape Grand Tower and easily checked in with the ground floor security team into my “TINY” AirBnB on the 32nd floor (there are 34 floors in total). The AirBnB owner gave me a digital entry on-the-condo-door keypad code. After opening the door digitally, I was able to then fetch a physical electronic key from the table. The condo was truly very small (it looked bigger on the AirBnB site – pics are below) but nicely done and had the prerequisite mini-balcony that overlooked the parts of Cebu city that are towards the sea waterway that separates Cebu City from Mactan island. From the 32nd floor balcony it is possible to see the sea that is even beyond Mactan island as well as the planes landing and taking off at the Mactan airport. The views were stunning. Photo of my Cityscape condo room. Some photos of the stunning views from the mini balcony: Note that they built many hirise condominium buildings but without balconies – a true tragedy. Consequently, to get a condo room with an external balcony was a true challenge. I paid € 700 euros for 20 nights, at a rate of € 35 euros per night – not bad in my opinion to be located just 2 blocks outside of the CBP – Ayala mall + Avida condo residences complex. My neighborhood was quite safe, where the only annoyance was the poverty that is on the edges of CBP – as my condo was 2 blocks outside, so I had to often encounter the poor begging families who send their children to play the sympathy card day after day. Security is a serious activity both at the Cityscape Grand Tower as well as in the entire multiple block enclave of CBP – as it is well patrolled by private security details who are armed – which scares any potential trouble away. I walked over to the nearby CBP Ayala mall, which is gigantic with 250,000 m2, whereas, Central Festival back in Pattaya has 200,000 m2. I ate an early dinner and I went over to the giant 7 floor Metro store to buy towels to put down on my AirBnB condo mattress – to avoid getting in trouble with the owner (I am referring to a previous incident when massage oil contaminated the AirBnB mattress). Exhausted from waking up at the crack of dawn, flying, checking in, buying sundries for the fridge it was time for a well deserved in-room massage. I fired up the apps, as follows: Grindr – has the most number of users, Heesay – second highest, Planet Romeo – third highest, Blowers – fourth highest, Hornet – in last place – very little activity – unlike back in Pattaya where it is often the number one app with the most available number of users. After chatting with many of the locals on Twitter (X) and in the above apps, I was told that there are also other modalities to meet the local guys, which are: X – just announce your availability and people will DM you. You need to be cognizant of the hash tags; #altercebu, #cebualter, #saunacebu, hire, masahista, #hilot. Or, you can use the above tags / search words and search for your type of desired situation. Tinder – I have no experience with Tinder. Bumble – again, I have no experience with Bumble. Facebook groups – I performed a search for CEBU Gay FB messenger and Google returned many query hits. As I don’t have FB, I could not utilize any of these. As soon as I entered into PlanetRomeo, a sexy manly masseur with a profile name like, “MasseurJerome” wrote to me and I invited him to my condo. This being the Philippines, all visitors need to be registered with the downstairs condo security team. I employed his services for 90 minutes for a fee of 3.000 pesos (~ $51 USD). I found out later that this was on the high side for Cebu – but I was happy with his massage and the fun afters – as he was able to edge me very well. Here in the Philippines the concepts of SIDE and EDGING are very well diffused within the various apps and English being one of their primary local languages (Tagalog, Visayan (Cebuano), and English). I found that when they speak Cebuano, there are many common words with Spanish. Day 1 (29 December 2024) concluded.

I'm now travelling outside of Bangkok, so here are some notes from recent times. It's been a little quiet on the guy-front whilst I've been in recovery, so not too much excitement to report on as of yet. I tried out a couple of hotels (that I haven't tried before) in the general area - BnB98 - I found this whilst perusing google maps. It's in the same small alley as Pula Silom and G.O.D nightclub, and I thought I would give it a try since it didn't look too bad and is well-located. This is a strange one though - you can book via the usual channels (booking.com/agoda) however there is no reception (there is a cafe downstairs that is run by the same people as the hotel - I think). Basically they will send you a one-time-code to open the room and inside is a door card to use for the remainder of the trip. Since there is no reception, my passport details were not taken so I am not sure how they get away with not reporting your stay to immigration (as hotels usually do). Anyhow, the prices are reasonable and there are also some cheap rooms with shared bathrooms. I was booked in for 4 nights, but I lasted 1. My issues - the door did not have any secondary lock from the inside. Since there was no reception, the front door is always open so anyone could just go up into the building. It is so noisy - I could deal with it being so close to the BTS, I could deal with the noise of the nightclub nearby, but I couldn't deal with the man singing karaoke at 6am. The bathroom blinds also didn't fully cover the windows so it's possible someone in the building opposite may have gotten an eyeful if they were looking close enough, and there was no room safe. Some of these things I already knew from reading the reviews, but I just couldn't do it! I thought it would be good to be right up in the action, but I think I would prefer to be slightly a distance away. Or a better hotel with more amenities. Silom Convent Garden Hotel - I actually read about this hotel in a report from Vinapu so decided to try. I ended up getting a very good deal on one of their bigger rooms whilst booking direct online, which the receptionist told me was an error on their side and I should not have gotten it for that price, but he had to honour it since I already paid for it. This place is closer to Chong Nonsi but still in walking distance to all the fun places. The place is quite dated and falling apart slightly but is still fine, and what I especially liked about my particular room type is that it had a washing machine, which was very handy. I probably wouldn't stay there again, but it was good to try somewhere on the other side. It is also right next door to Sauna Mania, and a short distance to Arena for those who are interested. Massage - Senso - I visited here hoping to see the guy that I met in January who I had an excellent time with, but he was not to be found and the manager hadn't heard from him either (I ended up messaging him later on Line and he confirmed he wasn't working there anymore and told me where he was now working). Anyhow, as I entered, another guy entered at the same time as me, however he left shortly afterwards. Perhaps he wasn't keen on the lineup? or the price? The pricing structure is new, compared to how it was previously - a 90 minute massage will cost 3300 THB and is an all-in price that includes both the massage and the tip. I forget how much the 60 minute option cost. I asked the manager to tell me who can do both top and bottom (as I like to flip-flop) and he pointed out who was able. The line up was mostly hunks, but there was this one twink guy that I had my eye on so I ended up choosing him. I had only been to Senso twice before, once in January as already mentioned, and once last year, and I briefly wondered if the guy I chose was the same guy as last year but I couldn't quite remember, and for some reason I remember him being taller. Anyhow, we went upstairs where I firstly had a shower and he then had a shower, and started with the massage which tbh wasn't super sensual but it was okay, and then the afters started which was pretty satisfying. We flip-flopped a few times which was lots of fun and afterwards we had a shower together where he helped me wash the massage oil off. It was at this point that I saw his tattoo of his name that I put 2 and 2 together and it was the guy that I had last year. I didn't recognise him, but in all fairness, he didn't recognise me either lol. We later confirmed when I tried to add him as a friend on Line, he was already my friend. I had a satisfying time, but the guy I had in January, I felt I 'connected' with him more. And the sex was way hotter. So that's me updated for now, will write again when I have more to write about!

Day 5 In the morning unpleasant surprise – no water in the room. Luckily by time I finished breakfast and strolled around the area water returned so I managed to spruce myself up , pack little I had , left luggage on reception and at noon reported at Arena for massage session with Nuk . Muscular veteran there, it’s probably 7 or 8 years since I had my first session with him although he is not that old- started his career there early. Great massage, again with full coverage, he is professional in what he does , that’s sure thing. Than walk to Silom Convent Garden, place I discovered in August located right beside Sauna Mania in soi Phipat. Room a was available , lots of storage space and at least 20 hangers in the closed, microwave , even kitchen utensils but one substantial item absent – safety deposit box. I guess cheap rates mean something. Did some shopping at 7/11 at end of the soi and at 4 pm welcomed N, freelance masseur. Since I was just massaged we resolved to survey stamp collection instead. Great session , it was not our first meeting but today he seemed more active and more clingy than before. Absolute gem so my lucky streak continues. Rest of afternoon and early evening I spent in the room catching with forum , Line and e-mails. E-miel returned from his China trip so we agreed to meet in soi 4 at 9.15 pm . We never meet before. Waiting for him in mouth of soi 4 I was accosted by Vietnamese looking freelancer, handsome face but very skinny. Fortunately as soon as I told him I’m waiting for my boyfriend gentleman beaming smile in my direction showed up and it was emiel indeed. Nice conversation over beer in Banana outside. I was shocked to discover that he never went to Moonlight but somehow we decided to check Jupiter instead. It was Wednesday and at 10 pm Jupiter was surprisingly empty . We got front row seats , usually reserved for visiting big tippers with pussies but for lack of those we got invited to seat there. Moment of arrival was great as first walkabout started soon. I tipped again very hunky performer recommended to me by one of our member and again , the same like few days ago, no acknowledging smile when he was across the scene on other side. I know I should pursue him because of his looks but other half of me says , give yourself a break and save your money. Issue to be solved next trip I guess. Then one of performers looked familiar. I was pretty sure I saw him among crew at Sabaidee Spa in Dec 2021, then one of my friends engaged him and got his Line which he shared with me and we even talk about meeting but couldn’t find agreeable time. Luckily for all those years I kept his Line. Not sure he is the guy , lets call him T , I slipped red note into his hand when he was passing by and few seconds later , when he was on another side of the scene I was rewarded with broad smile , rarity in Jupiter. Then we watched show and when at midnight was time to make moves I decide to invite my guy for a drink. Good sign was , he was clearly happy and reason was explained by mamas an- it was his 1st day in the bar today. Then I pulled my phone , showed him profile in question and yes, he confirmed it’s his. Finally , after 4 years I had chance to hug such dreamed about hunk. Emile in meantime did not waste time and invited one of boys for a drink as well. It needs to be said that at that time, post show , mood in the bar improved , sober , disinterested looks are gone and boys are behaving normally, friendly smiles , clicking glasses etc. Neither emiel nor myself did not waste time, I asked my guy about going with me , he sounded enthusiastic , no wonder , first day and off already, I’d be too. Soon two sets of us left bar. Since I have habit of feeding my overnighters I asked him if he is hungry. He was and modestly suggested Foodland – good sign and there , another good sign , he settled for ordinary rice with vegetables, nothing fancy so bill for two of us was not even 200. It's a bit of walk along Convent to hotel and only there I asked about Long Time , to which he agreed , I’d say matter of-factly. Quoted me hair rising price but still much less than I expected to hear so I agreed as it would be stupid to let such a chance to pass by over 1 or 2 thousands. Great body, great personality, good English, active and patient, I’d even say caring , whatever good can be said about ones off – he ticked all boxes. Even when we waked up and it was 11 am he did not make any move indicating he is in rush to leave like he knew what is my pet peeve. I expected many things in life – to win lottery big , to become famous politician, scientist , movie star, pope and even best street cleaner in whole Bangkok but I never thought I will live long enough to say that my best off of the whole trip will be from Jupiter. It was never even close possibility but here I am !

After a successful venture at Arena, I spent the rest of the afternoon and early evening recharging with a good snooze and a glass of wine. However, when the temptation to get out and about became unbearable, I marched towards Surawong for a foot massage and to indulge in my favorite sport—people-watching. Around half past nine, I made my way to Good Boy. Perfect timing, as a few customers were already inside, sparing me the awkwardness of having everyone on stage vying for my attention. Scanning the room, I noticed that both 7 and 42 were present tonight. Now, it was just a matter of making the right choice between the two. As soon as the Papasan saw me, he promptly sat next to me, and we engaged in our usual chitchat. Interestingly, this is the only bar where I’ve ever been asked if I’ve had dinner! While still wavering between 7 and 42, 7 caught my eye and grinned mischievously, making my heart flutter just enough to summon him to sit beside me. 7 is from Laos, and his English isn’t the best, considering he only started working in bars this past April. But there's something so engaging about his persona that the language barrier hardly mattered. Either that, or he’s so good-looking that I was just giddy having him next to me. As the show began, we continued our conversation using a translator app. Oddly, the app kept translating "Top" as "complainer," which we both found amusing. I shrugged it off, and we agreed to let him “complain” on me tonight—and maybe tomorrow morning too. After 7 went to get dressed, I watched the show, eagerly awaiting Mai's performance. He’s such a handsome lad, and I would’ve "offed" him if given the chance. Unfortunately, I was told he’s not offable, as his partner works at the bar manning the counter. After Mai's performance, 7 and I headed out to the street. I asked where he wanted to eat, and he gave the standard "up to you." We took a taxi back to the hotel, and once in the room, I handed him my phone and asked him to order food for both of us. We showered together, and just as we finished, our food arrived—perfect timing. After dinner, I handed him the TV remote, offering him the chance to watch something. We cuddled up for a good half-hour before he shyly suggested going to bed—a suggestion I didn’t resist. In bed, he turned out to be a surprisingly passionate kisser. He took his time before "complaining" on me, which I thoroughly enjoyed. After we cleaned up, we stayed up chatting, watching silly videos on his phone, laughing together, and looking at photos of his family. We fell asleep cuddling, with me wearing a huge grin. Lucky 7, indeed!

No , absolutely you were not cheapskate. While those days quite a few boys may ask 4000 or 5000 for overnight, certainly that should not be a case when boy is staying with you for several days for two reasons : a/ you are fully entitled to substantial volume discount as boy secures income for that same period b/if boy stay with you , not only you will pay off fee but for his meals and entertainment. You both go to the bar - you pay yours and his drink so 500 becomes 1000 etc. while 2500 / day may be on lower side is still very reasonable and I'd say 3000 is absolute maximum. fact that you paid him 5000 to avoid scene is OK but after that you made two serious mistakes - buying his meal and paying for his barber. Nothing wrong with that in general but not after you have feeling you already overpaid him for your overnight session. Good to hear you regained your sense and refused taxi money, I would be using plain language " I already gave you enough ( or plenty ) " - this is what I say when they ask for taxi money. That part of your report "He then wants to rest back my hotel because he was tired and upon arriving to my room, he flops on the couch fully dressed facing away from me and starts to watch tik tok videos on his phone and then falls asleep." should be warning signal for you. If you , God Almighty forbids , go with your plan , expect more of that day after day to a point that you will wonder who really is in charge of your space and time. It's different story to take boy for a trip when both of you are travelling which is different dynamics than host and overstaying welcome guest Do you really want to play host to somebody who treats you that way and gets paid for that ? four advices from me since you asked although I have my doubts you had me in mind when you said 'learned forum members" : A/ if sex is great engage him for overnights or short times as often as you wish, pay him and send him home after each session but forget about having him as permanent resident as fast it will become taking toll on you and your vacation time due to need to entertain him and bar with his antics B/ invite him ( or any other boy you meet) for a meal and pay for his taxi but ONLY if you feel like , not because he asks. Otherwise taxi money of 100 today will become 300 by next Wednesday etc. C/ do not be concerned about him losing face with his friends. You are on vacations , not on boys therapeutic session. It's for him to navigate that with his friends D/ you may want to read my last trip report as I put myself in the same situation for a week month ago. Difference was that my boy was well rehearsed before and did not put any direct financial requests. Still it was tiring to have somebody in the room constantly or asking him to leave when I wanted to have some time for myself (and perhaps other guest) . And of course all those expenses added up

Day 8 Good night sleep proved priceless. At 8.20 I woke up , refreshed and went to Unesco acclaimed Foodland for breakfast and chat with reader, our former poster. I needed shoulder to cry figuratively speaking as while I have fun this trip is not as much as I both expected and hoped for. Upon returning to the room some news from CB, guy who was supposed to carry him over border declined a job , but CB’s his friend in similar situation is flying to Phnom Penh on Friday morning and he asked if I can buy him a ticket for the same flight. As Obama would say ‘ yes I can” , fired up my smartphone and in few minutes we had ticket, slightly under 80$ one way. He was not very happy with such arrangement as he still needs to travel about 5 hrs to his home town but at least that is solution to closed land borders. I was happy because it was cheaper option that one previously tabled. Still it seems it’s hard to get him to be bit more intimate today so seeing that I decided to go for a walk which handily brought me to Arena, what a coincidence I’m telling you ! Art , the mamas an welcomed me heartily , invited to ogle his staff on duty . There were 6 boys-it was early afternoon , all super manly so I picked up one I had massage with last year. I even remembered where he is from but this time famous boys memory did not serve him well and he did not remember me at all and was surprised when I showed him I have him on my Line. Session went well to very well although was bit rushed , we were done in 65 minutes out of 90 mins session but I decided not to create any fuss. I guess I was not in my normal mood as well plus he was shaved “there” which is something I don’t really dream about. Upon returning to the room what I saw ? of course CB on his smartphone. I suggested farang food today and decided to give him a taste of Bangkok public transit so we took bus to Charoen Krung hoping Madrid Tavern or , how it’s called now Madrid Café , will be opened but it was not. On corner of Silom and Charoen Krung we spotted Arab restaurant and CB , clearly hungry suggested we go there. It was well patronized at the moment but they found us a table, he was happier with his meal selection than me but at least I did no leave hungry. They had nice tasting Australian root beer. Then in moment of enlightenment I suggested Asiatique . Hard to believe neither one of us was never there. It was easy to get to as most Charoen Krung buses are going there. Nice setting on the banks of Chao Praya with lots of shops and restaurants and crowded with tourists. I liked Ferris Wheel so we went there, not particularly cheap at 800 baht a ride but it was worth it for a view from above and even better, since we were alone in the cabin we did some ‘ adults only stuff, nothing drastic but it was sneaky fun , stolen kiss here, , misplaced hand there, you get the picture. Best part it looks that gloom finally left CB and from then on things were more like in good old days. Returned home by bus / BTS combination ( there’s direct bus to and from Silom to Asiatique but after 10 mins of waiting I decided to jump on first going toward station ). Around 10 we , at CB suggestion , went to Dreamboys . Far from crowded , certainly more boys than customers. Novelty was quite big, 7 or 8 strong, pack of Indian tourists of mixed gender Not long ago almost impossible to see them I bars, now they are almost everywhere. Funny part was they couldn’t figure out what the best spot is and changed seats at least 3 times. Plan was to go to Atlas afterwards but when I confessed to CB that I like certain boy he said ‘buy him a drink “ so I called him over. It turned they hey know each other AND , later one in the room I discovered that he has profile on Grindr I’m following and even exchanged few messages with. Of course his profile picture showed him much taller and bit more muscular than original but no to a degree it was misleading. We hit it on from minute one so when he suggested we go to Jupiter because he never saw show there I was happy to oblige. At 11 p.m., few customers in Jupiter, again less than boys on the stage but it was blessing as we got prime seats by the side of the stage, not in some obscure corner. Even better, shortage of clients made , normally sober looking boys , smiling at customers including me , even if there I’m almost unknown nobody and tonight I was winged by two boys already. I noticed another boy I’m watching on Grindr and treated him to no less than 3 red notes during three walkabouts when we were there – investment for a future. I informed CB that our buy from Dreamboys is going with us and he was quite OK with it although disclaimed that he will not participate in activities because he is his friend. At midnight we left or first tried to leave, shockingly mamas an demanded I pay 500 off fee for taking a boy from bar. WTF ? I brought both boys with me , one of them used to work there for short period shortly after covid , another one was never inside ! But it seemed no to register, only when both boys were involved it turned out he took Dreamboy for somebody else – one of his own staff !. And we are talking about mamas an I saw there few times before. Anyways boys sorted it out before it escalated to ruckus but that is warning to everybody- stand your ground. I was more amazed than upset. We went to Foodland to east something where we joined reader already there and them went to the room where CB finally could stick to his phone uninterrupted – for prolonged time he tactfully retired to the bathroom . Every trip we meet the precious boy about existence of we never had idea before and this was this trip case. Sure I saw him on Grindr but did not even connect that boy to one I had in my room until he already pointed hat we exchanged some messages few days ago . Certainly it was best meeting of this trip, active , endowed , master kisser, you name it. Too bad he was booked tomorrow and is also leaving Thailand on Friday. Whenever I return, I know for whom I will be looking for. I gave him 1000 more than we agreed for and it was certainly well deserved and even better , worked for.

Day 3 Breakfast at Zing is in my opinion very good value at 189 baht for quite extensive selection. At the moment they have even promotion, if you buy 3 times , 4th is free. Track is kept on card they gave me when I bought 1st one. One of massage guys from Jomtien Complex I engaged few times in the past probably spied me on Grindr or passing by with my friend through the Complex yesterday because out of blue he sent me a message this morning so I invited him for 1 pm to come and check how he likes my room. We did not bother with massage and it was kind of kissy-huggy reunion. For dinner I decided to try recommended by few Sophia’s Kitchen opposite Dick’s in the Complex and indeed their chicken with cashews is one of best I had ever. Complex is busy preparing for Pride Night tonight with 2 stages set up so my hope is that famous Max will grace that night with his presence at The Best Bar. Early evening as arranged yesterday my guy from Dreamboys showed up and today’s session was even better and hotter than last night to a degree that I forced additional 1000 baht on him upon learning that tomorrow he is going home for a few days. Hope to see him again whenever I will be in Pattaya. I need to find a way of hosting him overnight, good sign was that today he did not say no when I revealed my plans about future. I liked he did not promise anything but said he feel more comfortable with me now and will think about that. Okey, okey Well after dark I went to Supertown filled with expectation that my Maxhunt will materialize. Lots of people everywhere and truly festive atmosphere. I parked myself at The Beast Bar but no, there was no Max in sight. I was watching shows produced by every bat on the stage in front of The Venue but Max was missing when his bar was presenting their part. Oh well, there’s always tomorrow, also day when he normally performs there. My beer was brought to my table by very manly faced Lao twink so after few sips I offered him a drink. By time I decided to call night off I consumed two and he 4 bottles of Chang. Not sure who first suggested we go home together but certainly we had the same in mind so of we went. While I was disappointed with Max absence , at least I satiated another curiosity. In @Home bar I noticed muscular guy I stalk on Grindr who advertises he likes kissing. Had I noticed him earlier I’d try to engage hi but now it was too late and may be it was good after all. While passing by I gave him red note to signal my interest and reaction was somewhat strange, instead of expected smile, wai and thank you I got kind of grimace one sees when somebody almost steps on dead rat or dog’s poo on the pavement. But no, he did not give me note back so not being sure what I’m supposed to think I just kept walking with my guy in tow. On our way we met aussie_ from forum celebrating night with his friends. To hotel we went in style – both of us on the same motorsai, clearly twinks have advantages of not taking so much space. By his own admission he started his work in the bar only few weeks before so lack of experience was visible but was offset by clear willingness to do the best o earn his tip. Me and twink and happy with him ! End must be near. It was already dawning when he asked for permission to go home which was granted . after he left I slept quite well till quarter to 11 am. I barely made to the breakfast but I did it !!

Single M20+, this is my first time in Bangkok and I'm still closet status. Due to reasons, timelines will be blurred. Disclaimer: Bangkok is still a family friendly locations, you will only see the Rated items in special locations. Due to my closet status, I did not visit any bars/sauna's. However I did visit 2 massage parlour with 'that' intention, plus an extra. Phetboy Spa The first massage location I went to is Phetboy Spa. This place is good as they are open 24 hours. From my short enquiry on their line, you do have to book an appointment if you want to select a specific masseur. Due to time constrain I initially though this would be the only location I am able to visit as afternoon to night time is touristing time. When I arrive at the location, there was 2-3 masseur sleeping inside with no customers due to early wee hours. I also came 35 mins earlier than my supposed appointment so I had to wait a while. The reception was great and they showed me the menu on massage available and I picked aroma massage (not that it mattered since the first thing the masseur did was slap oil onto my back). After waiting inside the room for a while, the masseur came in and told me to undress. Simple and clear instructions and then lay face down on the mattress. The masseur did some basic up down massage starting from the leg and upwards and that's the end of the massage. He removed his underwear and pulled me towards his boner. But after a while he went soft and the session ends by me asking him to watch some porn on his phone. After some miscommunication, he self-pumped for less than 5 mins and released. I did enjoy his release but was kinda sad it ended so fast. He pointed to mine but after some tugging left with only his release. The guy was good looking, young and my type but my fault too as I could not speak Thai. Overall I tipped him the slightly above the mentioned brochure price but he was the lowest among the 3 massage parlours. The Prince Spa The second massage location. I did not book an appointment as it was more of an impromptu situation and the rain had ruined my tourist plans. It was raining but as soon as I pass gate, the grey prince logo, the reception was fantastic as they greeted me at the door and invited inside. Upon entering the door the various masseur line up for selection giving suggestive looks. I initially saw my pick from the online website but he seems occupied with his phone and I picked someone else. I ended up picking someone that was tugging away their equipment and showing a suggestive look. A quick payment to the reception and they had me guided by my selection towards the room. Took a shower and wrapped in bathrobe. This being my second rodeo, I was a little bit more suggestive on my intentions. The best part was that my masseur could speak English. Though we only had a little bit of conversation it did play a part in sharing my intention and positions. Regarding the massage itself, I was in shock that the masseur was good at massage, he gave a full massage from bottom to top and even did my neck area. It was a long wanted massage area. Though slower than at Phetboy Spa, the situation quickly escalated. There was already something poking me from behind and after he wore the protection, all went loose. The good of this location is that the masseur went hard and fast, though the session ended as fast. I asked the masseur if he could do mouth to mouth but he declined. I was slowly leaning towards a non-release but the masseur suddenly went to give short kisses on the neck and upwards and gave mouth to mouth. Though it was a simple underlip mouth to mouth it did encourage me. With the first mouth to mouth I went in for a second mouth to mouth. On the third mouth to mouth, it was an extremely long mouth to mouth as I attacked and went inside his mouth, a slimy attack later I collapse exhausted. The entire experience is as described by other reviews of this location, the masseur will join you in the shower. I gave the tip to the masseur and that's the end. Note: the tip paid was not the lowest of the 3 locations. Extra: Prestige Massage After a long tiring day, I wanted a good massage and went for the well known location to get a great massage. This place is truly the best for my tired body. The masseur attacked all my knotted locations and I feel refreshed. This location is a location to go to as their masseur is well trained. I truly like this place and really like their reputation. I won't bore you with what went on inside since I prefer their current reputation. To understand what I mean please review https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/massage-shops/ Final Review As a forever single, I find it a bit shocking on the sizes provided and the durability of the equipment. I like to take my time and edge a little but being forced to end with a deadline did discourage me. To talk more on the sizes, I though I was a small but turns out I was bigger than the average and it showed that none of the masseur was bigger than mine. The toys/tools I played with is bigger than mine and comparing to the equipment did make me wonder if the equipment was good enough. Well the only masseur that did enter me made me understand what skills were. I was practically encouraged the whole duration and they know how to entertain you. Might have been better to talk about size with the reception if I wanted a larger equipment but I was too shy to ask. Apologies As a newbie, I am not used to the whole terminology and I tried to censor my words but it might be too much.

Planning to be in Bangkok for Songkran, last minute plans had me on a road trip through Chon Buri and Rayong instead. I was glad to have escaped the insane crowds of perfectly sculpted Chinese muscle gods glistening in sweat and targeted sprays from water guns, aimed at their tight white shorts with nothing underneath. I returned to our beloved city of sin, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayutthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit, only to see the crowds dramatically reduced. And hotel rates cut in half. Ah, bliss. i quickly decided to check out Atlas since there is one particular performer from The One and even formerly from Tawan I believe, who I quite like. He’s older, shorter, Thai but gives a mixed vibe almost as if Latino- confirmed, he’s not. Unfortunately he’s not there. The bar is actually quite slow. It’s me and one other table for a while until a few more tables trickle in. Not a great vibe, but the show goes on, and is somewhat enjoyable. None of the guys are my type, even though the mamasan (a very femme, short lil’ dolled up queen) is pushing me towards a young looking boy from Myanmar who she guarantees has a massive tool, wrist thick. Having never been with a boy from Myanmar, and his face being somewhat cute in a ferret type of way, and his pecs quite juicy but soft and undefined. Not an awful prospect, but no. There’s one guy who looks Polynesian who has an amazing body, but he sits apart from the rest of the guys and doesn’t engage in eye contact. I was hoping to feel his bicep in exchange for a tip, but he seems disinterested. A guy on stage is very eager, and making motions toward me and trying to act comedic. He’s older, lean, muscular, okay bulge. He’s always nice to me and I never tip or buy him a drink, and today I reflected on that as he’s one of the few performers who tries to increase the vibe. I pay for my drink (vodka coke) which is 500 THB, leave a 100 THB tip and offered 100 THB during the show to feel someone’s erection. I leave, feeling mixed but not disappointed. Atlas has been better before, a mere month prior. It must be a bad day. I get pulled across the street which I always find to be a confusing mess of bars. I end up in what I assume is Fresh Boys. It’s up some stairs, above what I believe is Good Boys formerly Screw Boys? Please correct me. The entire layout is confusing to my poor stupid little brain. And more to that- what shows on this soi are the best? As of posting, I have one day left- please, share the best! Honestly I’m STUNNED at the lineup here. Immediately I see 17 and 23- both have big ears, lean and entirely ripped bodies with bulging pecs, biceps and impossible thin waists and torsos. The porportions on both are exactly my type. The mamasan here is a a bit pushy, but in a light and funny way. She’s got a bit of a charm. She invites 17 over: I don’t buy him a drink, but I give him a tip, and she nods for him to sit with me. I ask him some questions and find out he’s straight and from Vietnam and I immediately remember my last bar boy experience with a Vietnamese guy which was just blatant ripping off at every corner. I go cold. Ah- okay, not this one. He sits with me for a moment and then leaves. There is a big cock show and 23 is the first on stage. I need him. I motion to him to come for a drink afterward. During the parade where the boys allow you to touch (and the announcer says suck!) I tip him 100 THB and confirm I’m buying him a drink. He sits with me. English is not the best but not bad. He’s from Vietnam. Oh no. Are you straight? Yes. I’m fine with that. I get a sense he’s more honest than the last, but I’m so skeptical. In the end, the prospect of being next to this guy in bed is too much to resist as he’s almost flawlessly my type. And lo and behold; nearly every guy on stage is acceptable to a degree. They hit my specific audience I guess. The best bar lineup yet? After some back and forth, asking about the pricing, and ensuring there’s no ridiculous restrictions or extra charges for simple things, I agree to off him. 400 THB for my drink (vodka coke), 400 THB for his drink, and 500 THB for the off fee. 1300 THB to the bar. As discussed, 2500 THB to the boy at the hotel. I was honestly surprised it wasn’t 3000 THB! He changes and we walk to my hotel. It’s The Quarter Silom which is a great rate during this downtime, at 40 USD. I watch him shower through the frosted glass and then he lays on the bed and turns on straight porn on his phone. I softly lick his nipples which are perky on his bouncy pecs, impressively so for his small frame. He moans whether fake or not, and I work my tongue down his tongue, sucking gently on the crevice where his legs meets his crotch. I place each testicle in my mouth and dance my tongue around them, then lick up the shaft and swallow his cock whole. It’s impressive in its size at around 17cm and slides down a throat with ease. I pull him into my throat again and again by sucking gently, and swirl my tongue while doing so. He pulls my head deeper until he’s fully inside my throat, and I create suction and wiggle my tongue in place. I love sucking him, watching his chiseled abs clench while my hand is behind on his back, above his arched ass. This boys body is absolutely perfect. I’m allowing myself every desire that arises in savouring it. I ask him to fuck me, he places a condom on his rock hard cock, and directs me to the edge of the bed. He slams his cock into my with professional ease, and immediately starts at a rhythm that has my prostate pulsing. Wow. This guy can’t be more than 22 and has a skill like this? I can’t hold it for long and I cum hands free, blowing a load all over my chest after just a few minutes of him slamming my hole. He immediately gets off, removes the condom and showers. So straight, I think to myself. I give him the 2500 thb as agreed and I look for a 500 to tip him with and only have 1000’s. I take a handful of small bills and think to give it to him, but feel it may be insulting, so hesitate. He sees this in my hand and looks down and seems sad to not receive it, and leaves. I vow to return to the bar and tip him properly, as not only did he not rip me off, he provided a good service and that would be rewarded in this type of industry as it’s sorely missing.

Many times we see in these forums that our fellow posters are making repeated trips to Thailand. Some posters live on this site when they are not there! I first went to Thailand in 1987 as part of larger travels. I think I stayed 4 nights. Baht was 22 to the dollar and I paid about 300 baht per guy. I wished I could stay longer, but I started coming back twice a year as I was just in love with Thailand. I very much liked the Coffee Boy cabins/bar in Chiang Mai. I stayed there many times. A private cabin was $28 a night, and the cutest boys worked the bar, including my all-time favorite guy. It was not right in town but tuk-tuks were always available. Coffee Boy was run by a man called Lulu. I liked him but I understand that not everyone did. Eventually, the place closed. Long after that I got a tuk-tuk ride through the ruins. How sad. Anyway, I like to go to Thailand in January when it is coolest. (My first visit was in July.) I know that I have been the last two Januarys and guess that I have made about 17 visits to Thailand. I just booked another one for next winter as the business class airfare is so much lower than before. So, I guess I will be right here with you, trying to keep track of what's happening in the Land of Smiles...and looking at @PeterRS' pictures to remind me of what these guys look like! Someday I might post a clothed photo of my all-time favorites...all clothed as I didn't take nude pix. I didn't get permission to post them either, but they have to be in their fifties now. Sad to say that I once ran into my Chiang Mai favorite in Bangkok years later. He called out to me, we went to the Suriwong to catch up. But all of the magic of the relationship was gone. He just went through the motions. I thought he was high, which I had never seen with him. Sigh. I'm not so interested in the bars anymore, but I love being in Thailand. And thanks to @TotallyOz for keeping this site going.

Decided to sleep in today to re energise and prepare for the days ahead. Wanting to take it a bit slow but by mid day my feet are itching and the temptation of going out proved to be too compelling.Bangkok isn’t the kind of place that lets you chill for too long anyway—the city calls and you answer. Made my way to Siam Paragon and immediately noticed the festive buzz and Songkran is definitely in the air. The decorations, the crowd, even the music had that extra spark. I wandered around a bit, letting the escalators and connecting walkways carry me from one mall to another. There's something comforting about these mega-malls: cool air, clean spaces, and a constant stream of people doing their own thing. I took my time, soaking in the vibes, enjoying the rhythm of people-watching like it was a low-key sport. Eventually made my way to the food court, where I refueled with something satisfying. After that, I plopped myself down at a Starbucks, cold drink in hand, continuing my quiet observation of the world moving around me. When I had my fill, I decided to try out Nine Spa in Sukhumvit. Messaged via Line and I was provided with their menu of services. One positive I picked up from their pricing is the difference between 1 hour and 1.5 hours massage is only 100 baht. And the minimum tip for 1 and 1.5 hours is the same which is 1000 baht. Unlike other shops that you will end up paying 500 baht or more (as both massage and minimum tip increases), Nine Spa's menu shows more value just for an additional 100 baht Hopped in a taxi, but made the rookie mistake of trusting the app’s pin instead of following Nine Spa’s actual directions. Got dropped off a street away and ended up doing a mini-trek to the place. It's tucked not too far from the Quarter Phrom Phong, just a short walk once you figure out the right alley. When I arrived, I was introduced to my chosen Masseur (Chay) and off we went. Now one negative thing about Nine Spa is that there is no private shower. Lucky my room is basically right next to the shower and there's only two rooms sharing a shower in my floor. Shower room looKs decent and the large bottle of mouthwash a good plus (not all spa have this). When Chay returned to the room he asked me if I want a "clean" massage. I was confused and don't know what to say. Should I be upfront and say I'm not after anything clean at all ? Good thing when I asked him to repeat, he actually meant "cream" massage and showed me a bowl with massage cream on it. Crisis averted! To be honest, I came in with low expectations of the massage component given the price. I was expecting one of those mechanical, let's-get-this-over-with routines. But Chay surprised me. It wasn’t Ssense-level finesse, but the massage had actual technique and effort. Long, deliberate strokes that made me feel like I was in good hands, literally. Then came the fun part. The extras were... thorough. He took his time. Checked in. Looked pleased with himself. After I finished, he cleaned me up, gave me a look, and asked if I could return the favour. Who am I to deny good manners? Let’s just say Chay didn’t hold back. Gave me a surprise ending right across my chest. Cream massage indeed. I nearly clapped. Gave Chay more than the minimum tip. I really wouldn't mind returning to Nine Spa. Sukhumvit is not really my area but there are some nice malls to explore in there that makes the trip worth it. Plus their pricing is competitive with Saphan Kwai shops. Night time came and Banana Club was my destination. As always, performance is on point but one thing I noticed, is that there's a bit more exposure time for their guys now. Their roster have grown and I can see some former hotmale and freshboys guys in their lineup. I locked eyes with my usual guy Nine and he smiled. I motioned him to join me in my seat which he gladly did. "You say you come Sunday I was waiting for you" nine said sulking. It only took a few minutes and he's back to the usual clingy sweet guy especially when I asked him if he wants to go with me. While waiting for a taxi, Nine was full-on affectionate—holding my hand, throwing his arm around me, sneaking in quick kisses. Normally, I’d cringe at that much PDA, but tonight I just rolled with it. No point overthinking when you’re vibing with someone who’s just happy you showed up.

Recently completed my first trip to Cambodia. I absolutely loved it, so here are a few highlights, starting with 6 days in Siem Reap. I traveled over land from Bangkok by train to Aranya Prathet. The train is 3rd class only, so it was a warm and dusty affair, but really cheap. I forgot the exact price, but less than 100 baht for the train ticket. There are two trains a day - one early morning and one around 1 pm. Train departs from the old Bangkok Central Station and is scheduled to take 4,5 hours, but I was warned that there were often delays. I was on the afternoon train and it was only about an hour late, so I had time to cross the border at Poi Pet before it closed at 10 pm. I crossed the border and had a meal while I set up the e-sim I had bought to access data in Cambodia. VID_20250115_124544.mp4 I then proceeded to find out if I could get to Siem Reap the same evening, and was squeezed into a Phnom Penh bound sleeper bus that dropped me off in Siem Reap around midnight. A few days before my trip started, I had tried Grindr’s roaming function to see if I could make any contacts before arriving to Siem Reap. I made a few and one of them, an early twenties college student, was very eager to meet me and we kept in touch as my journey progressed. Since I was a day early, I asked him to call my hotel to see if they could accommodate me already. I stayed in the King’s Rock hotel thanks to @vinapu's recommendation from a previous trip report. I found it good value for money, conveniently located, and visitor friendly. I spend 6 nights in Siem Reap. First day I explored the town itself with college student as my guide. The next three days I had booked a private tour of the big and small temple loop on the first two days and a trip to Kulen mountain on the third. I booked through Affinity tours and was very pleased with the experience. In the evenings I went out with college student for dinner and drinks and he slept over most nights. On a saturday evening we visited Bar Code for the drag show which started at 9 and finished around midnight. It was not as polished as Stranger Bar in Bangkok, but more camp and equally fun. Besides college student I hooked up with two more guys I met via Grindr. One mid thirties with a great body whom I met twice, and one early twenties cutie who asked for 20 usd which I was happy to give him. There were also offers of massages on Grindr, but between all the sightseeing and me enjoying the company of college student there wasn’t really time to check out that scene. My next stop was Battambang - plan to report on that stop in the near future.

Filipino men are cut, poorly. Thai men are uncut, usually. Filipino men are on average, thicker and shorter in penis size. Thai men are on average, thinner and longer in penis size. Filipino men tend to have a bit of chubbiness, even when fit. Thai men then to be thinner, even when fit. Filipino men don't have as many tattoos. Thai men typically have a few. Filipino men will manipulate and lie to you, but they believe they are being honest. Delusion. Thai men will manipulate and lie to you, but they are well aware of what they are doing. Tactic. Filipino men are ashamed to be filipino. Thai men are proud to be thai. Filipino men fall in love before you even meet them. Thai men fall in love after you fuck them. Filipino men will rarely ask for money, being around a white person is enough for them because they value whiteness and mediocrity over anything else. Thanks colonization. Thai men don't see white people as anything other than what they are, tourists. Filipino men will fight tooth and nail to convince you that PH is the best country on the planet, all the while claiming to be "mixed." Thai men don't give a shit what you think, Thailand is already great. Filipino men will stretch the truth on everything, and romanticize even the most trivial things. Thai men don't care to impress you, they are more curious. I could go on for years. They are nothing alike.

First of all: Thanks to veteran members here @vinapu, @macaroni21, @bkkmfj2648, @reader that inspire this trip to begin with. This is the first Bangkok gay-oriented trip for me ever. I am coming back in June 2025 so will save some of the bars / onsens experience to that part of the trip. This trip is mostly focused towards gay massage experience - variety of it. I am venturing out to off beaten paths shops - reviewed / non-reviewed shops. [B]First, some burning Q&A about massage shops in Bangkok that I answered during my trip[/B] Q: How does one broadly classify gay massage experience in Bangkok? A: All stores involve to some degree of sexual activities. The massage shops can be broadly classified as follow: Pricing (Low to High), and Activities included (Soft only, Soft but hard could be included, or Mandated Hard) Q: About pricing. Why would anyone go to high end stores (1500B+) if one can get the same pleasure from stores charging fraction of the price? A: Facilities at higher end shop feels a lot more comfortable in terms of cleanliness, private bathroom - even a bathtub with full service included. However, what is often not talked about here is the quality of the boys. Boys at lower end shop is doing it for the money at whatever bare minimum. I noticed that they are more mechanical (you can see in my review below). Higher end shop boys seems to be enjoying their job because of their pay - much more likely to go above and beyond what is required. They are less subject to revolving doors phenomena that the shop just hire whoever is available. Guys at higher end shop, especially in non-freelance model, takes pride on what they do and bank of repeat business. Q: About activities. Why would anyone go to soft shop / hard optional shop if one can go to shops where hard activity is guaranteed? A: This is the nuanced that I also had to appreciate. Hard shops which tend to have mandated higher tips - will deliver exactly that. A hard activity (either T/B). I found that in these shops, by nature, the service do feel more mechanical. The boys already have earned his/her tips as long as he does the activity. In a softer shop, the boys exercise discretion on what activitiy to deliver to earn his tips. I found that kissing/affection factor is higher in softer shop versus hard oriented shops. I guess you cannot win them all! Q: What is the best predictor whether the masseure will kiss ? A: Their sexual orientation is likely the best predictor. Without fail, all the masseur who is gay will kiss a lot more willingly. A top / straight masseur will not kiss. How do you find out their sexual orientation then? The massage review group on X disclose their orientation or sometimes the shop does too, and you may ask the shop directly when booking. Q: Negotiation during soft shop session A: This is to be expected when stated minimum tips is 200B or some other nominal amount. The boys can/do exercise discretion and will offer extra service. If the boy does not speak English at all, it is possible to use the translate app and be clear on what you are asking in the beginning (B2B, handjob, etc). In the next post, I will go into more depth on the six shops that I frequented during my trip. [B]To be continued[/B].

Day 4 HC left at 6 and I got some sleep. Past 8 I went for a breakfast to Ibis Styles, they have a deal , buffet breakfast for 250 and it’s extremely good value. After that short survey of Patpong market and back to hotel to pack up. Most of my stuff I’m leaving there as I will be returning to the same place . That part is usually easy for me as I’m used and well trained to travelling light. S showed at hotel on the dot, whole in smiles and we went to Don Muang by usual BTS+Mrt+ SRT red line way. All very smooth although they removed from his luggage some big bottle of body lotion but he kind of expected it. In order not to lead into temptation we were seating separately as one never knows where his hand may land in the plane full of people. Taxi for 180 to our hotel, The Space but south of city center but still walking distance there. We both are in Chiang Rai for the first time. After shower we went to the city , on our way had some local meal 200- for both and secured an adventure for tomorrow – for 1000 per person I bought trip to the Golden Triangle, whole day , visiting 7 places. Soon after dark we retired to hotel as I claimed I’m tired while in fact all I wanted was some intimacy with such a hunk. That turned out easy to have. I guess he felt bit indebted. Second very sweet night in row , I’m afraid to become diabetic. Alarm set for 6.45 am. Few pictures from evening walk in Chiang Rai

Hi everyone, I recently arrived in Bangkok and thought I would update with what's been going with me so far. The day of my arrival happened to coincide with the Crete Party (which is mentioned in a post in the 'Gay Bangkok' section, thanks to @bkkmfj2648) and seeing it was taking place in the hotel that I was staying at, I thought I would give it a go, despite the hefty foreigner price tag (5500 as opposed to 4900 for locals - although not too much of a difference) and I was in contact with @jason1975 to go together. The arrival time of my flight and the time that registration started was already a little bit tight for timing, but I would be able to make it work. Except that my departing flight was now scheduled to leave an hour late. Okay, so I resigned that I was going to be late. I contacted the organisers and they said this is okay. Anyhow, flight on Thai Airways Royal Silk class was smooth and was fed quite a lot of food, landed at 16:15, walking to immigration took a little while but immigration didn't take too long. I think I was eligible for fast track but I didn't worry about it. Luggage came out as soon as I got to the belt (usually I travel light but I thought I would take a suitcase with me this time as I am here for a while), raced down to the basement floor to exchange some cash as I only had 500B to my name, and off I went onto the ARL then switched to the MRT at Makkasan/Petchaburi all the way to Silom. Seeing it was a Saturday night I wasn't expecting the trains to be so full. Yes I could have gotten a taxi but I don't generally take taxis unless I really really have to. Anyhow, reached Crowne Plaza around 18:15, unpacked a little and changed my shirt (didn't even have time to have a shower, yes gross), and raced downstairs to the Crete Party to meet @jason1975 and @Raposa - first time meeting both and really nice people. I was only an hour and a half late and I didn't miss too much. I won't go into much detail about this part as Jason has already mentioned it in great detail in his trip report, but all in all it was a really nice way to spend my first night back in Bangkok. I had not been here since January of this year. After the party we went to Jupiter, and whilst not the most favourite of places, the guys are amazingly attractive and some of the shows were quite good. I did have my eye one of the guys, but I was already super exhausted and just really wanted to get back to the hotel and have a shower and catch up on some sleep. I said my goodbyes at around midnight and that was it for the night. I'd like to also mention that this trip that I'm currently taking is the longest one that I've ever taken - I'll be here for 2 months so I'm just going to take it easy and not be too rushed, and not centre my holiday so much around boys (although there will be quite a number I would like to meet). I'm staying in a number of hotels in Bangkok and also visiting common touristy places such as Pattaya/Jomtien, Phuket, Koh Samui as well as Khao Lak, Koh Yao Yai and Koh Tao (thanks to @bkkmfj2648 suggestion in another thread). The following day I had a 2 hour massage at Prime (1 hour Thai/1 hour oil) which was amazing and later on in the evening I met Jason and again other forum member for a drink at Hotmale beer bar which was fun and then over to Dreamboy where we had a booth seat near the front which is where I never sit (I prefer to sit right up the back) but since I am with company, it was good to sit up the front. Upon entering, my favourite boy waved at me and I called him down and we had a nice catch up, and he was happy to see me and happy to be offed that night. The bar was not very full for a Saturday night, but I guess high season is coming very shortly. We watched the shows some of which were new and some recycled but it was good to watch something that I would not be able to in my own country. It was good to gossip with Jason during the show. Boy came back with me for short time and then went to the gym afterwards. The next day I had another appointment at Prime, 0.5 hour scrub (which he got into every nook and cranny) and 1.5 hour oil which was actually quite sensual and good coverage, with no modesty draping. After lunch I went back to rest at the hotel and was planning to go to Karaoke with Jason and his boys, but I ended up having some stomach troubles so I thought it would be best to stay in, much to my dismay. Luckily it was short lived. For now, I've now moved into another area of Bangkok, away from Silom, as I've just had some minor surgery so I will probably not be too active in the next week or so whilst I recover, but I am here for a while so plenty of time for more shenanigans. There is just so much to do, and I am just so happy to be back in my happy place!

Day 8 (5 January 2025). Slow day. I had my usual walk through the Ayala mall and surrounding neighborhoods. I note that the city is moving away from New Year celebration stuff to the upcoming 2025 SINOLOG festival, which will start on 18 & 19 January. You are made aware of this by: Loud “I love Cebu” music is starting to play all over the city, https://youtu.be/CkgVnIgqTXo?si=MQr3wdHibIESfG1I At first I did not enjoy this song much – but after 3 weeks of hearing it everywhere in the city it grows on you and now when I hear it I get happy and emotional. Similar to when I hear the Pattaya Pattaya song = https://youtu.be/ulfn3bQNcdU Music for me creates emotional bonds to a place, friends, and experiences. Shops throughout the city are starting to sell SINULOG merchandise, There is a festive sense of happiness in the local people for the arrival of SINULOG. Today I learned that CEBU, is commonly referred to as the “Queen City of the South” – how apropos. Later in the evening, I chatted with a cute masculine guy, Mr. Jon from PlanetRomeo and he comes to my room for a good 2 hands massage + safe edging, oral, and edging fun. Day 8 (5 January 2025) concluded. Day 9 (6 January 2025). Day begins in a frustrating way when I returned to my room after my breakfast to find out that the digital electronic key entrance system to my room is dead. So, I contact my AirBnB owner about the problem and after 2 hours of waiting a technician arrives. The problem was that the battery within the electronic device went dead and consequently the lock device could not respond to my electronic key nor my keypad secret code. The technician had to remove a type of secret panel and then insert into a keyhole a type of Allen wrench key that allowed him to turn the tumbler with great force to allow us to enter the room. He swapped out the battery, sprayed some W-40 into the tumbler – to make it have less friction. He left me with this manual key in case it would happen again – but I am happy to report that from that point forward the electronic digital system worked perfectly. Can you imagine if I had a guy with me that I rented for 2 hours ? Would we do it in the hallway outside of my room? Later in the night, we finally go to visit 2 gay places with Mr. M. in the evening. First stop is the famous CENSORED gay bar. https://www.facebook.com/xcensored2020/ It being a Monday night, it was quite dead, but we still had fun. We ordered some beers and some light food snacks and took some photos. me standing in front of the CENSORED bar If you want to get a feel for this place, enter this in the X (Twitter) search box and then look at the gazillion search results. . Some are X rated responses, as the local Cebuanos talk about their prey that they picked up from CENSORED and what they did to their prey, or what the prey did to them. This is probably the most frequented gay bar in Cebu – as it is just off of the main road = F. Cabahug street (as shown in the below Google map) in an alcove that has many other open air bars there. Consequently, there is tons of space for the guys to congregate, drink, be social, and be crazy. Second stop is to one of the few male go-go bars here in Cebu. So we visit: Club X – MenXiest Entertainment Bar: https://www.facebook.com/clubxcebu/ me at the Club X entrance - full of anticipation https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/2097477327211294/club-x-male-entertainment-bar/ https://www.tiktok.com/@clubxcebuph/video/7296162474628254982 Located over in Mandaue – which is right next to Cebu City. This place was a blast. As it was a Monday night, there were not many customers, so we got most of the attention. There is the very elegant ladyboy mamasan who came and sat with us to explain how everything works – which we learned that it is somewhat similar to how it works in Thailand: You can invite a gogo dancer down from the stage to sit with you with a 1 drink minimum, where his drink will always cost 600 pesos even if your beer costs 200 pesos. The gogo boy accumulates 1 point, at a value of 50 pesos for each drink that the customer buys for him. 300 pesos per person in your group is added to your bar tab as the entrance fee. Waiters are not allowed to drink with you – but we were eventually allowed to break this rule – when it became evident to me that Mr. M. was smitten with our assigned cute and fun waiter, All of the male staff that we saw up on the stage are straight. The mamasan explained to us that gays are not allowed to be hired as a gogo boy dancer. I inquired as to why and she said, management policy with no further explanation. Off fee to bring one of these gogo dancers with you was 5.000 pesos (~ $85.35 USD) payable to the bar PLUS the fee that the guy would want – based on what you ask him to do with you – sliding scale. No quotes were given by the mamasan, as she stated that the bar has no influence on what is negotiated between you and the “straight” gogo guy. So, the guys start doing their gogo dance routines (some in bikinis, boxers, and pant shorts). The astute mamasan is noticing that I am intently in awe of one of their dancers who is quite good in his black boxer shorts. She tells me that he is their newest dancer and has only been with them 1 month and he is from a nearby remote island. She calls him down to sit with us and he is VERY tense and heterosexual – almost trembling, but at the same time very masculine. I put my arms on his shoulders and start to caress him. But he needs to drink like three 600 peso drinks before he finally calms down. Then we start talking and he opens up to me, and by now I have my hands on his legs, which I am caressing. He is quite apprehensive, as all of his “straight” colleagues are watching him. I find out from the mamasan that I am the first person in his new month at the club to invite him to sit with a customer. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1003988561451289 https://www.facebook.com/reel/1077555116908058 By this time, I had already bought the mamasan a drink, I ask her again if the cute waiter could sit with us so that my friend Mr. M. could have some fun also. She agrees to break the rule – as there are not many customers that the waiter needs to attend to – so he sits next to Mr. M. and I see a lot of sexual positive energy between all 4 of us now and I also see that the mamasan is very happy – of course – it is a dead Monday night and my wallet is good for business. My guy tells me that he will go back onto the stage to do a solo dance act. I ask, when? He says at 4:00am. It was only 2:30am and I was already very tired, so I told him that I would need to leave by 3am. He runs away to the DJs booth and then comes back so excited and says, that the management will rearrange the solo dance lineup so that he can dance for me within the next 15 minutes --> IF <-- I agree to pay 1.000 peso to change the dance lineup fee. Wow, this place really knows how to milk their customers. But I was really into this guy and already buzzing from the alcohol so I agree. Then the DJ announces him and out on the stage he is all alone dedicating his dance routine to me – it was great. So, I could not remain seated, I heard the voice of @vinapu, my Jedi Master, in my ears, and so I ran to him up on the stage and did the necessary = I planted a 1.000 peso blue note into his black boxer shorts. The small audience and ALL of his "straight" gogo colleagues erupted into applause and shouting – as I learned that my new friend was now officially initiated into the warm gogo boy family culture of the Club X – MenXiest Entertainment Bar. The mamasan made me understand that this passing of the torch into having his first customer was important for them to keep him – as it was already 1 month that they invested in him without any requests to sit with customers or offs. By now he was so estatic. I told him that he is already so sexy and an excellent dancer – but that he needs to buy a proper sexy bikini like the other more senior already successful gogo guys. I put another 1.000 pesos into his pants and told him this is for your bikini fund. We then asked for our bill and drum roll please – it came to around 11.000 pesos (~ $190 USD) = outch – but it was a GREAT night out to see and experience the Philippine version of a gogo bar and my first time to see my cute and adorable Mr. M. get up close and personal with our sexy waiter. They exchanged numbers. Unfortunately, I could not as I only have a numberless eSIM and I don’t have FB. It is ok, as I probably would have regretted taking my guy home with me since I have my boyfriend back in Jomtien. Here is a nice write up by a local blog here in Cebu: https://sugbo.ph/2023/cebu-club-x/ Day 8 (6 January 2025) concluded.

Day 6 (3 January 2025). Breakfast at Ayala (Abaca Baking Company – excellent salmon Benedict breakfast). Meet Mr. M. for our Cebu historic center tour. First stop was to see the Heritage of Cebu Monument, which was initiated in 1997 and completed in 2000. It was constructed by the award-winning artist, Eduardo Castrillo, which is made of brass, bronze, concrete and steel. It is located in Parian Park, which a long time ago, was the site of the Saint John the Baptist church which was demolished in 1875. It is a monument that represents Cebu’s long history, since its founding in year 1521, by the Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Magellan, under the Spanish forces of that time. For more information, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_of_Cebu_Monument Admission was free. Our second stop was the Archdiocesan Museum of Cebu, which features a collection of exhibits related to the Catholic faith, some dating back to the 16th century, which provided us a walk down memory lane to learn how religion has shaped the country’s culture and people of today. Learn more here at: https://cebuinsights.com/explore-cebu/museums/catholicism-cebu-cathedral/ Admission was 100 pesos per person (~ $1.70 USD each). I paid 200 pesos to include the entrance fee for Mr. M. Our third stop was to see the Magellan’s Cross, which is the MOST visited tourist site in Cebu, as I believe that it is the oldest site from Cebu’s founding in April 21, 1521, which represents the birth of Christianity in the Philippines. The original Christian cross planted in Cebu in 1521 by the Spanish expedition, is housed inside this structure. We need to remember that the original capital of the Philippines was here in Cebu, until the year 1571, when it was then moved to Manila. For more information, visit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magellan%27s_Cross_Pavilion Admission price is free. Our aborted fourth stop, was to see the nearby MOST important Basílica Minore del Santo Niño de Cebú. Unfortunately, I was wearing shorts, which are prohibited. I asked Mr. M. if there were any vendors (like there are at most Catholic sites where shorts are required) that would allow me to wear wrap around pants. Mr. M. looked at me as if I was from Mars – I had to explain to him that this is a common money making practice in many countries. He said that such a thing here would be sacrilegious and would never even be thought of. I told him that in the Catholic headquarters, The Vatican, that this practice is very much alive. Another hint as to why the Philippines is kind of stuck in time and has not evolved as much as its other Catholic peers; Spain and Italy, due to the Philippines super adherence to religious discipline. Additional information can be seen at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basilica_del_Santo_Ni%C3%B1o Our fifth stop was to visit the National Museum of the Philippines – aka Malacañang sa Sugbo. Visiting this place was literally very REFRESHING, as it was the only place on this historic center tour with amazing airconditioning. This museum features five galleries, which displays exhibits on Cebuano culture, maritime history, World War II artifacts, and archaeological treasures. I being a map lover, enjoyed all of the maps of how the city of Cebu progressed into what it is today. Amazingly, admission to this wonderful museum is FREE. For more information, visit: https://suroy.ph/national-museum-of-the-philippines-cebu/ Our sixth stop was to discover, Fort San Pedro, which was founded by the Spanish conqueror, Miguel López de Legazpi in 1561. Originally made of wood, it was then converted into stone in 1738. The fort is right next to the primary harbor for the many ferries leaving for the nearby islands. Consequently, when you climb up onto the upper portion of the fort structure you have a great sea view of the port as well as a nice salty breeze. The entrance fee is 50 pesos per person (~ $0.86 USD each). I paid 100 pesos to include the entrance fee for Mr. M. For additional information about the fort, visit: https://suroy.ph/fort-san-pedro/ Our seventh stop was to enjoy the Cebu Ocean Park. It is the only marine-themed park in Cebu and its main feature is the Deep Tank Lagoon, which allows for you to walk through a 360-degree viewing tunnel. I’ve seen these in other parts of the world and the Cebu one is one of the better ones. I truly enjoyed the special exhibit that they had for the penguins and then the “Birds of Prey” show, which truly engaged the audience – as there were stray pigeons flying around which were tempting the birds of prey to not follow their choreographed program, but to instead attack and kill the pigeons – so sometimes during the show it became intense. Another cool feature of this place is the Aqua Dining, where an entire wall is in glass with complete high wall views into the Deep Tank Lagoon – truly amazing. The entrance fee is 650 pesos per person (~ $11.13 USD each). I paid 1,300 pesos to include the entrance fee for Mr. M. It was good value for money and worth the visit. Our eighth stop, by now I was very exhausted, was to quickly visit the SM Seaside City mall, as it is directly across the street from the Cebu Ocean Park. It was important to visit it, because in the Philippine culture, MALLS are a very important part of their daily life. Since this trip report is to present retiree life in Cebu this is a salient point to be aware of. The SM malls are the main competitor to the Ayala malls. It is a huge 5 floor mall that was constructure in a giant circular structure (like the Apple headquarters in Cupertino, California). The top floor offers amazing views of both the city and of the port and an upclose view of the famous CCLEX Cebu-Cordova bridge. Admission was free. You can visit the official FB page at: https://www.facebook.com/smsscitycebu/ Our nineth and last stop was to eat dinner back at the outdoor Street Food by Sugbo Mercado located right outside the back of the Ayala Mall in CBP. Note that there are more than one Sugbo Mercado – in various parts of Cebu city to avoid confusion. Mr. M. and I, we both ordered a healthy plate of Lechon (roasted pig) after a long day of touring the historic center of Cebu. I paid for Mr. M. – but I do not remember the price, as it was peanuts when compared to what we pay back in the west. For more information, visit: https://www.facebook.com/SugboMercadoCBP/ Once home hot & sweaty, I took a quick shower and jumped onto the apps and I found Mr. Ren on the Grindr app. To date he was one of my HOTTEST massage guys, he is 22 and in the Police Academy = WOW!! He needs extra money to support his student life. He only wanted 2.000 pesos (~ $34.30 USD). When he left I gave him 1,000 pesos more as he was so worth it as he had great massage and edging skills, a nice cock, and super manly. What a great ending to a long and fun day. Day 6 (3 January 2025) concluded.

Day 4 Being right in the middle of Silom Plaza it would be shame not to utilize both Best and Arena massages. I had good sleep after HC left and barely made on time for hotel provided breakfast – the same like American in Foodland plus small tray of fruits. Theirs is guy in Best massage recommended to me by one of our members and worth the trouble going by the look – I met both of them few days ago in Foodland so early afternoon I crossed the plaza , asked for him and lady on reception was clearly not knowing who I’m talking about. I was perplexed but what we have Line for? Lined member , he made his inquiry with the guy and it turned out he goes by different nick in the shop that his name we both know. Armed with that knowledge I went back, asked for Frank and we all were home. Great skills and actually it helped as today I was in need to good , proper rub and one of smoothest guys I ever met. Members recommendations usually work and this one worked big time plus ! . In the afternoon I had urge to sample pizza and when it’s pizza it must be from Madrid Café in Charoen Krung soi 49 , formerly Madrid Tavern from Patpong . Decide to go by bus and while standing on the bus stop I saw our member anddy passing by on motorbike. Go figure – rush hour on very busy street and you see familiar face. So I pulled phone and Lined him about my immediate plans hoping that he will see message soon. Indeed , as soon as I sat down in Madrid – I don’t place orders there because we have ritual there: ‘usual?” , ‘yes” which places Chang , no glass – as proletarian I drink from the bottle , on my table and cherry tomato and shallots pizza lands in the oven, my phone showed message ‘ I’m on my way . Soon we were greeting each other and had as usual a great chat over the meal. He was kind to drop me at Silom Plaza and after having a tea in the room I decided to break usual rules of not having massage after the meal and took stairs to Arena. There was quite handsome guy talking on the phone outside but he entered in just after me and it was good move. Art, the captain greeted me with open arms as always. There were about dozen guys of usual Arena quality, all smiling and pointing at themselves. All muscle and testosterone but I decided to go with that new guy who sexily lifted his shirt to show sexy sixpack, not that anybody there lacks in that department. So Chai it was. There’s old saying first quoted by Herodotus ( or was it Tacitus ?) “Arena never disappoints “ and it proven gain for 1726th time . What massage by Chai stood out was coverage . No part of my carcass was unmassaged, literally from toe to head. What a find ! Specially that for some reason as I mused above for some reason today I was in need to really good massage. I think tension of previous week and all those flights made me feeling cramped. It turned out that he finishes his shift now so I invited him for a dinner right after but before we left I wanted secure massage for tomorrow noon. Reason was I’m changing hotels so need somehow to spend productively those 3 hours between 12 and 3. Captain told me they open at 1 but out of blue Nuk , whom I did not see before appeared and said “ will come at 12”. One can’t to better than that !. Inquiring minds may ask ‘ why didn’t you ask Chai?” but tomorrow was his day off which I knew beforehand. Soon Chai joined me for a meal on ground floor and we parted our ways. After having two proper and complete massages today I felt quite energized so around 11 pm I decided to see if S will be available at Hot Male but he was already taken so I moved to Banana. Bar was packed but they found me a seat and soon somebody seating beside moved out so I invited two boys seating in shadows nearby to join me for a drink. One of them I already offed twice on previous trips , another one was new and happen to be very clingy. I did not plan to take anybody tonight, after all I had plenty of daytime fun but gin, separated from tonic worked it’s way to my head and I decide to go with known quality , tipped other guy 300 for his time and soon off we went to my room. Can’t say it entirely worked as intended, perhaps penalty for dumping other, clingy guy ? It was clear from beginning he wants to do a deed , cash and go. Even skipped shower part. No he did not smell or anything so fun part was missing , not hygienic thanks God , otherwise we would have a scene. It was not that bad but he made whole experience very utilitarian so we had our utilitarian fun, I did no make any attempt to keep him longer, he did not suggested it either. Cash and go type of fun. Strangely it reminded me off of Tum, now model at Moonlight from short lived Boy66 bar at the same location back in Sept 2017. It was exactly the same , I still remember his words ”I make you happy and go” . But after such great and fun filled day I could use some decent sleep so just chalked it off and went asleep fortified in a knowledge that one more guy was removed from the list of future engagements. Classic , known to science, case of boys who on subsequent offs feel too comfortable to care much about their customer.

Day 2 After he left I collapsed on the bed for well deserved rest after two nights on the plane and night in between spent sightseeing. At 9 breakfast with my forum friend at Kiss, then introduction to Jomtien with some time spent on almost empty beach. There one could see it’s really low season. Then noon time stroll through empty Jomtien Complex. I was checking throughout the day if message from my last night guest will show he will come for daytime visit but by 14.30 I lost all hope and when I lost it, around 4 pm message came he wont be able to come because he is still helping his friend to move and settle. Nice dinner with forum friend in the seaside restaurant at mouth of Walking Street. Tonight we decided to start survey of realm with ToyBoys. At 9 not too many customers , several twinky boys in briefs on the stage plus few , I’d say more attractive standing by the door in jeans and without numbers but clearly hoping. I suspect it could be foreign boys who in case of raid can claim they are only customers , hence neither numbers nor work attire. One was actually vert attractive , almost like my last night companion. After we left I went to Dreamboys to pay off fee for my last night guy to make sure he won’t be taken and promised him to take him out no later than midnight. I had hope he will stick to his last night promise to stay overnight At 10 change scenery for BoyzBoyBoyz. Loud music, smoking inside the bar, two dozen if not more fully dressed boys on the stage with only two bare chested. Mamasan Lek recognized me immediately and informed that sadly off fee now is 1050. Wow ! And that for boys dressed like anybody else on the street ? for a while I was only farang but after 2 or 3 more came but generally all customers were Asian or more precise , looking Chinese. Not seeing anything nor anybody of interest, most boys looked very average dressed as to cover any trace of sexiness, we did not even wait for a show, gulped our drinks and very disappointed went to ABomb only to learn that they don’t have boys at the moment and they show up only for the show. That’s strange , boy bar without boys ? End must be near , that’s rather sure. So much sooner than expected we went to Dreamboys where y guy was waiting for me with smile , I bought him a drink, we had talk with mamasans and hour later went to hotel. Very nice talk in the room, we exchanged some photos. It turned out I visited his city in Thailand . We talked about Bangkok as he never been there . I suggested he may visit me next week when I return from Cambodia and he seemed enthusiastic about an idea of me being his Bangkok guide. Of course I asked about promised long time. “I can only till 5 “, we even agreed on compensation of 3000. Bed activities excellent then , like last night 2 am arrive and all of the sudden he expressed desire to go home because he is hungry and it’s supposed to be raining and he wants to be home before rain starts. Goes without saying that I was upset as things were going very well, to a point that I did not even reduced his tip but let him gram 3000 prepared for an occasion on the desk. After he left I had cooling down stroll through deserted already streets in vicinity and even treated myself with kebab in the shop I had honor to patronize on the day of their opening back in Dec 2021. Apart from upsetting it was puzzling as we genuinely went along great, knew what to expect from each other from yesterday so why false promises if sincerity would do ? I cant say day 2 ended well for me , I start even questioning what is wrong with me if such nice guy is treating me such way?

This is a continuation of my “Return” topic in the Gay Thailand forum. After a ten days in Bangkok and Pattaya, I flew to Japan for another ten day visit, 6 of which were with family and friends. That gave me some time to explore options. I had read the forum topic on boy brothels which intrigued me. I had long ago head of King College but had no experience of it or what are a multitude of others. Without too much exploring I identified the following: chanceosaka,jp kids-jp.com Fragrance-boy.com gym-k.com izakspa.com heroes-Tokyo-jp redline03.com urisen-next.com topboy.yoyyo olive-salon.net/staff jam-so11.com dgdgdg.com (Danshi Gauken) I am sure there are more, just depends on one’s location when in Japan. My travel plans settled me into the Osaka/Kyoto region. I was in Tokyo but only for a lengthy layover on the way from Bangkok to Osaka. After looking at the various sites and I encourage forum members to explore as the majority of the sites provide photos of their “representatives”, details on age, height, weight, penis size and what the guys will get up to or into. Many have info charts to summarize if the subject of the photo will kiss, will fuck, be fucked, do threesomes, whether they smoke or drink, if they will do films, and if they are straight, gay, or bi. As to how well a boy might kiss, fuck, etc there are graphic charts. A circle is a yes, a circle in a circle is a sign of experience. A triangle indicates boy is on a learning curve, an x is no. The sites vary as to how they indicate if a boy is a top or bottom. “Uke” is a bottom. “Maru” and “tachi” are slang for top. Some of the sites will also provide an introduction from the boy, a manager’s view of the boy, and client reviews. Chanceconnects to the boy’s Twitter also gives space to the boy to talk about himself - some are very clear about their erogenous zones. Then there is pricing - it is time based and can range from a hour to overnight. The better sites (my rating) are vey clear about how pricing works, if credit cards(and which ones) are accepted with or without an additional handling charge (as much as 7% at some places). You can book to meet the boy at the agency or at your hotel. Danshi Gauken prices are similar to most give or take a 1,000 JPY. An hour at 14,000 JPY for the office and 13,000 if the boy comes to your hotel. I asked why the difference and was told they don’t have cleaning time/costs for someone going to a hotel. The hour pricing is about $95 USD. Two hours is 19,000 JPY ($129 USD). Overnight /12 hours is 32,000 JPY ($287). One can contrast these prices with Bangkok remembering to add in the off fee and and drinks that may have attached themselves to completing the off. The two hour fee is about 4000 THB. As a culture, Japanese do not expect tips. Your up front cost is also the back end cost (in more ways than one). Whew…got the details out. I used both two hour and three hour bookings as I was testing and exploring. First lesson learned was make sure the agency serves the city your are in. I got caught by the photo and talents of a boy at the frangrance agency. Only to receive a polite explanation that Frangrance didn’t serve Osaka. Second lesson book ahead. Most of the sites similar to some Bangkok massage shops have multiple dozens of photos of boys. Best to check the photos on the “schedule” part of the website to see who is actually available and at what times. These sites will also show the availability for the next several days/nights. Some boys require that they be booked the day before the planned meeting. One of my offs who had this requirement told me it helped him with his own schedule as he was a student and wasn’t into hanging around the agency. The boys I “encountered” were always on time or early. One was arriving at 9:40pm which I thought curious until I realized they had calculated the time the subway would get the boy to my location. He arrived at 9:41. I engaged one boy from kids-japan. This did not go well due to an internal hesitation on my part. The staff at kids-japan are YOUNG, Japanese tend to look young, I thought my choice was a middle schooler and instead of any play took him to lunch. To each his own - this wasn’t mine. Chanceosaka.jp supplied a more mature companion, who was better looking than his photos (this was true in all cases), and more than will willing to indulge me. Skills were superb, no need to play games about kissing or any activities. No Vietnamese cry of “I’m Man”. NOTE: Here’s the scenario as noted in four instances: boy arrives on time or early. Agency has contacted me to confirm boy is coming and ask if a security card is needed for the elevator (this is also a check to see if I was actually in the hotel and in the room I told them). The boy comes in and it’s business. Payment is up front and in cash. Credit cards need to be used at the office. Boy may also be required to call his office to confirm he is with his client. Then it’s shower time. Japanese are very clean and want clients to also be clean. Shower together. It was over 95C every day I was in Japan so shower was also a cooling as well as cleansing. Erotic activities are encouraged, allowed, reciprocated, enhanced while in the shower and they lead to whatever the client indicated he wants. It was in the shower part that I realized kids-japan was too middle school for me. I had one visitor from Danshi Gauken and another from Chance. I really wanted a hook up with one of Chance’s employees “Daiki” but he was booked except for some times that with travel would mean only a handshake could happen. The Chance office manager and I went back and forth about filling a spot in my free time. He suggested I see who was working and interested me and he would check. This worked and an incredibly well hung, tall, and good looking young man knocked on my door a few minutes before the scheduled time. The Danshi Gauken representative was decently hung, incredibly handsome, tall and came with mouth wash, extra towels, and an industrial type lube which I was encouraged to apply generously when it would be needed. Danshi Gauken’s office also impressed me (and it was all email conversations) with their thoroughness and requiring the boy call them when he arrived and was leaving. They also sent a special email requesting I not keep the boy beyond a time when he couldn’t get the last subway train of the night. Given the heat and the crowding in Osaka subway stations, I don’t know what an office experience would be like. My Bangkok experiences lean me toward preferring a crowded group to select from. My Osaka experiences make me rethink. I normally would be wary of choosing from a photo, but the Japanese as a culture are very scrupulous and quality conscious and in the case of Chance and Danshi Gauken the actual was way better than the photos. It’s a different method but the end product was somewhat better than Bangkok as there was no need for in room negotiation and the boys I was with consistently wanted to know that I wanted and how to please me. A final thought not totally related, writing this report caused me to remember some 30 plus years ago in London visiting a house of boys, where one descended a staircase, was checked at the door through a port hole before being admitted, and then after business preliminaries settled, taken to a room when a curtain was drawn to allow me to look at the available boys all shirtless watching television, a boy was selected with no interactions, and I and the boy were taken to a room similar to a hospital room to go our separate ways when finished. Bleak. This was much more fun. In all three full sessions, had the impression I was the center of the experience which was to please/pleasure me.