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my apologies to those who were waiting. I usually table trip report after returning home and that Thai trip was part of bigger tour from which I returned home only week ago

Tittle is misleading but was given to this trip by our member bkkmfj who accompanied me to Bangkok during this short, 2 days in Pattaya and 6 in Bangkok trip to Thailand last month. I think only terrorizing part were 3 hotel changes three days in row but I booked those before he decided to join in and to sweeten whole thing , all were walking distance from each other. Day 1 This time I arrived by KLM from Amsterdam and arrival time was great , at 9.30 in the morning. There was no line up to immigration at all, I just walked in to get stamped and had even option of choosing one of three officers. No waiting for luggage as I was with carry on only. Buying SIM card took few minutes and I found myself with almost 2 hours to kill before my Jomtien bus departure scheduled at noon. This trip I decided to try something new for me i.e. going to Pattaya straight from airport. With excess time I went to train station to exchange some money, then ate something in coupon restaurant by gate 8 and went to the booth to exchange my bus reservation for an actual ticked as instructed when booked on website. I got moment of enlightenment since it was 10.45 and asked if I can get seat on 11.00 am bus. Luckily , there was seat but I was charged extra 50 baht for changing reservation. Around 1 pm I was already marching to Agate hotel in Jomtien Complex where room was already waiting for me. After desoiling I went to 7/11 across the street for some goodies and decided to see N, my semi regular there at his massage place nearby. No sign of him, as I learned later he went to see his folks at home for few days but consolation was at hand at the same shop. T, whom I never got pleasure with before but got good feedback about from one of our members was at hand so of we went for 1.5 hr session, 400+1200 tip. I was happy to discover that recommendation was very accurate. Got his Line with intention of asking him for long time in case none of guys I was hoping to see at Dreamboys would not be available. Either tonight or tomorrow. It was darkening when I took songtaew to Boyztown where I had a dinner is one of Indian restaurants there. Chicken with cashews there had some distinctive taste likely due to use some Indian spices but it was great tasting anyways. Then to Copa to claim my room. As advised in some thread in spring , in Pattaya to avoid travelling between Jomtien and Boyztown I often rent cheap 2nd room at either end. Handy just in case either boy or myself doesn’t feel like traveling in the middle of the night. As mentioned above I hoped to see #36 and #37 at Dreamboys. #36 was my outstanding companion when I was there in January. I did not have pleasure with #37 then but saw him in the bar waiting for his customer and he was extremely handsome HUNK. On top of that I got recommendation from trusted member who had better luck and engaged him at Christmas time. After obtaining key I parked myself with beer on Copa’s terrace where shortly bkkmfj joined me for a chat and ironing our trip to Bangkok after tomorrow. We both noticed very attractive tattooed massage freelancer offering his services in the soi while sitting on his motorbike. At 10pm we went to Dreamboys , me full of hope and excited with anticipation but as soon as we sat down it was explained to me that neither boys I planned to see is no longer there. So much about dreaming about boys at home, first day and already 3 boys from the list MIA. Disappointed , after we emptied our drinks I suggested checking show at Xboys and it was great idea as show was very progressive with, ahem, some risky numbers. A , veteran there recognized me but still smarting after Dreamboys fiasco I was in no mood to take him with me tonight although he is worth every penny he may ask for. Great body and personality as well as very qualified to participate in big c…k show. We returned to Jomtien complex where I have some hope, guy I saw on Grinder, hunk who likes kissing by his own admission on the profile. Bkkmfj knew who I’m talking about and even knew bar he is usually sitting but at that time of night he was gone. Another disappointment. But wait, I still have Line of T, the masseur and it was time when his shift should be over so I lined him but answer was “cannot tonight , can tomorrow “ . Ouch. So I gave up hope of having somebody tonight and went to 7/11 to eat problem out with some sandwich. Then I got stubborn and while munching outside hotel I fired up Grindr and found somebody I liked. “ I sleep with you if you give me money “ was the answer to obvious question. How much ? 1500. Waiting for you said I. In 10 minutes he showed up. Not looking exactly as in profile with face less cute but built more substantial than I anticipated. So off we went to my room to check recent acquisition to my and his stamp collections. And it’s how day 1 was over.

still removed from tipping and offing list, last trip I did not even stop at that bar once

Rice is not that friendly so I guess it's auto corrector's job, changing 'fried ' to ' friend"

no, world renowned Foodland Patpong is safe bet when comes to bringing in company and on multiple occasion it's what boys asked if they want to eat something suggested. At any time of day or night there's chance we spot either familar or handsome or both, face dining there alone or most often , with company. Also it pays to pay attention to passersby's as it may be chance to see somebody we know. (As we know from last trip - not necessarily blessing though ). While your idea is catchy , execution would be somewhat rude so better no to do it. Boy sitting with his farang is his companion and his only the same way like boy sitting with us is our companion and our only. It would be very bad form to try to pry attractive or familiar boy from his current sitter with. And I would not tolerate if somebody would approach boy I'm sitting with and try to arrange for anything else than handshake. But opportunity is still present if handled decently, been there , done that. One can simply try to outwait them as often after the meal parties are parting way, then it's free game , just one needs to be brave and fast. On few occasions thoughtful farang seeing that his boy sees somebody familiar can even prod him to go and say hallo to him. Happened to me in both capacities i.e. guy came to me to say hallo obviously with blessing from his farang and also I , seeing boy exchanging smiles with somebody, suggested he will go and say hallo if he wants. The same may happen in bars. We buy a drink for the boy and suddenly somebody is inviting him for a drink. If boy asks for permission , I usually agree for say 10-15 minutes break. If he leaves me on his own, his drink still half full, that's the surest way to be removed from my offing roster fort at least few trips. Certain P and A , on different occasions learned it to their peril because on next attempt to extract an off from me I in no uncertain terms told them it won't happen and why.

you are looking in the mirror ?

no doubt peaceful Buddhist principles are compromised tragically here. This type of cases in Thailand are way too common sadly, not long ago we heard about similar in Khlong Toey

thank you reader for cheering us up !

Is some cases it may, as most treaties state as second among conditions for centre of vital interests " where person has permanent abode available " , right after where their family lives . "Permanent abode " in this context may mean rental accommodation if place is rented on long time lease. In cases where establishing residency is difficult, there's provision in treaties that competent authorities of both countries may decide it between themselves. It's not consolation to stressed out expats but Thailand move is in line with what exists in many other countries where residents are taxed on worldwide income and foreign tax credit or income exemption is granted in case income was already taxed. As you said , tax treaties , if any , need to be carefully examined because they are minefield. I'm privy to case where I live , where foreign pension received was taxed in source country . Foreign tax was claimed as usually is but it was denied. Why ? Because tax treaty clearly says that pension received by resident of either contracting country must be taxed only in country of residence so in effect source country was withdrawing tax in contradiction to treaty provisions.

It's usually a case in hotels of every level, if one books room for two and deal comes with breakfast , breakfast is also for two. On my recent trip bkkmfj and me stay in Raya but his deal was breakfasty and mine not so one morning he invited me to utilize his 2nd breakfast offer. I second comment about need to be careful when inviting boys for meal or trip and look for signs they may feel uncomfortable. Some of us may not like those stares by other guests either, although when I notice those I audaciously blink my eye toward these nosy guests and it does the trick , at times even generating smile, no doubt out of satisfaction that their suspitions proved right, lol

I checked agoda last night and no, not yet offered there

don't worry and treat yourself. Every second of my 30+ Thai trips were "I can't afford it" type and somehow I managed to fund them and scores of boys in process.

I'm one who don't like it and find it embarrassing. It's why I rarely stay in Tarntawan where once I got a visit from two forum member in daytime , just for gossip and coffee. One Philippine, another Oriental looking American. Both were asked for their ID which we found funny. I understand security concerns by some but whoring is for adventurous , not for chickens.

I, for one , am waiting more for cross border train to Cambodia at Poipet to open

very good point

I guess we need to go on with the program and enjoy what we have. Fortunately even jeans may do as I find boys in then sexy as long as jeans are not too loose. Certainly for me new dress code is not an obstacle and is not preventing me from bar visits being secured in knowledge that eventually at least one jeans/ boxer briefs or even bikini briefs will be removed that night. Still completely dressed boys at BBB Boyztown are aberration but who knows , may be this is what their customers want to see on the stage ?

what was once golden standard now we need to count on luck to see boys in white briefs

some of them quite cute

rest assured, it won't happen

and so are countries of Uruguay and Paraguay and I never saw them being described as The Uruguay or The Paraguay. Perhpas English used ' the ' in respect of countries of English speaking domain ? one thing is sure, English if language full of exceptions , perhaps more than rules

taxi drivers will love it as it's quite a walk from Patpong

idea behind my possible clumsy comment was that I doubt how really straight are those boys who claim to be ones and still happily go with us , often sporting hardons from moment doors are closed.

still I'd say, go for 26 instead just to be safe and sure

off topic but honest question to English-as-first -language speakers. I noticed we say The Gambia and The Sudan but never say, The Ghana or The Tanzania to stay with former British possessions. Any idea as to why is that? Just curious

I agree, it's statement full of crap