9 hours ago, vinapu said:

for 128th time  I repeat try to visit each bar at least once , preferably twice as one statistic sample is not base to formulate hypothesis as people wiser then me i.e. everybody says

lol for the 129tb time that’s the plan. I’m here for 2 months.  I’m not visiting all of them week 1. Patience. 

On 8/29/2026 at 11:01 AM, jason1975 said:

After you get the guy's contact, you can arrange to meet him separately - before he goes to bar for work in evening or after he finishes work at bar (and he has no customer). Most guys will be happy to meet during this low season period.

Exactly this! With my regular guy from FB (and the new ones I've met on this trip), I've made it a point to request for their contact details. They were more than happy to meet without going to the bar. If I am meeting any of them during their usual bar hours, I'd usually still add the bar's off fee on top of the guy's tip. But you'll definitely save on the drinks etc.

While having fun at a massage parlor or spa is definitely cheaper, I personally prefer offing guys from the bar. Having the model accompany me for a drink first usually (though not always) helps me get a read on the chemistry between us and the likely outcome of any fun session if I were to off him. There is no obligation to off, I still get to enjoy the shows in the bar and zoom in on other potential offs if the guy accompanying me doesn't feel like a good fit.

5 hours ago, Shax said:

 If I am meeting any of them during their usual bar hours, I'd usually still add the bar's off fee on top of the guy's tip.

we should as bar will charge boy for not showing up for work equivalent of off fee

Thnk u floridarob.

Who is Super A so exceptional regarding these rough diamonds? And where is it ?

42 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

Thnk u floridarob.

Who is Super A so exceptional regarding these rough diamonds? And where is it ?

nest soi after Mango Tree restaurant going toward Narathiwas

4 hours ago, 12is12 said:

Who is Super A so exceptional regarding these rough diamonds?

VERY hit or miss..... some old timers come in a taxi/uber.... have the car wait, stick their head in the door, pick someone or leave empty handed depending on what they see.... too early maybe no one, too late maybe good ones taken.

And like I said, freelancers come every so often, some have other jobs and come when they need extra money or have a day off....

 

Final Part: Bars

 

Moonlight

Moonlight is a bar that I would visit at least once in every trip, mainly due to nostalgia. For many years during the time Jupiter was here, this was my favourite place (aside from Tawan). I like the stage & seat layouts as well as the boys & shows.

Nowdays though, the selection of boys are too small and consists of guys that are more of the "boy next door" type, twinks & twinkish guys.

On this occassion, I had just escaped from Tawan (2nd visit) and wanted to relax while watching a good show (the models who perform at Moonlight are hot). I got in about 15mins before the show and there were probably less than 5 other customers & around 10 boys rotating on stage.

To my surprise, a boy I offed several times a couple of years ago and who went back to his home country is back at the bar (I'll call him "A" here). I was delighted! I remembered A as a really nice guy and my experiences with him had always been good, so I was sad when I learned that he went back home a few years ago.

Anyway, A saw & recognized me from the stage, gave a huge smile and a wai. I called him over for a drink and we spent a lot of time catching up on what has been happening since we last saw each other. He mentioned a lot of things from our past encounters and still remembered my preferences (including my drink orders!).

I wasn't planning to off anyone that night so, having learned from past mistakes, I took A's contact details instead and arranged for a meetup the next day after lunch. For this night though, he stayed with me and we watched the show together. He was more handsy & touchy than what I'm generally comfortable with, but I enjoyed it because it's A. Before I headed off, gave him some tips for his time. Drinks : THB 500 for mine, THB 450 for A's drink.

On the next day, after some delays, A came over to my hotel and we had a great time. He was as horny & affectionate as I remembered (maybe a little more aggressive, in a good way 🤣). The moment I closed the door, he was already hugging and kissing my neck. His clothes were already off before we made it to the bedroom. We did everything I enjoyed doing, him remembering how I like things and we came together. When we showered together, a lot more touching happened that I was tempted to go for round 2 but decided against it as I had dinner plans.

Unfortunately, this was already my last day before heading back, so I couldn't off him again. He said he'll be in Thailand for now and have no plans to go back home at the moment, so that's good news for me. I am also glad that I have his contact details now. After the session, we spent sometime chatting before he had to go. Paid him his fees and walked out with him as I needed to head out as well.

This visit to Moonlight was perhaps one of the best decision I made during this trip.

 

Jupiter

I visited the bar 3x during this trip and had the one of the best and also one of the worst experiences offing boys.

The selection of boys was actually alright, with some nights having more models than others. However, there were not that many customers on all the nights I was there. Compared to my previous trip (where most seats were occupied), more than 1/2 of the seats were empty. The shows were pretty much the same old routine, so nothing exciting there. Well, the real highlight of Jupiter to me is obviously the boys. 1st drink: THB 500, 2nd/boy's drink: THB 450.

I'm going to share my experiences with 2 of the boys here, so I'll call them "B" and "C". The mamasan actually recommended them (together with a few other boys from the line up) after asking my preferences. With Jupiter, it was pretty well known that some of the boys don't go with male customers. So, I thought the mamasan's input on this would be helpful as I don't want to waste time on those boys.

 

Model "B"

On the first night I was at Jupiter, I invited B over to accompany me for a drink. B was one of the models the mamasan recommended and is supposedly ok to go out with male customers. He is a muscular guy, handsome and performs in the sexy shows. When he came over, the conversation started pleasant enough. After getting his drink and asking some surface level questions, things quicky became awkwardly silent. I tried keeping the conversation going and asking more questions about him but got one liner answers instead (and no, pretty sure it wasn't a language issue as he understood and spoke English well enough earlier). He was not making any eye contact with me and just waited for me to ask questions. Closer to the show time and after some awkward silence, he asked me point blank on whether I wanted to off him. I told him I'm not sure yet, to which he replied he had to go get ready for his show. Now, I know this is common in other bars as well if the guy also performs in the shows. What was shocking was how gulped his drink to a finish and just left. He didn't even wait for any tips or mentioned anything about returning. He took the small piece of paper that the boys will get with every drink a customer buys them (guessing is for their cut of the fee) and took that straight to the payment counter, which to me meant that he has no intention of returning.

Before the show started, they had the boys do a walk again. When B walked near me (I was seated close enough that the boys will definitely see me), he didn't spare even a glance (let alone any acknowledgment that he was seated with me for a drink just moments ago). To say I was pissed is an understatement. This was, by far, my worst experience with a boy who I haven't even offed yet.

During the show, the mamasan came to me and asked whether I'd like to off B as another customer was interested. I told the mamasan I wasn't interested. Finished my drink and left after the show.

 

Model "C"

Honestly, after the experience with B, I was not really keen on going back to Jupiter. However, after a let down at Tawan (my first visit on this trip), I found myself back at Jupiter. The same mamasan came to me again with recommendations, which I basically ignored at first. The boys did their rounds (and yes, B passed by me again and same as before, didn't even make any eye contact).

 

On this night, the mamasan was quite persistent about recommending a guy, "C", throughout the night. Now, C was someone I had my eye on during my last trip but a different mamasan told me he only goes with girls, so I didn't bother anymore after that. I mentioned what I heard to this mamasan but he assured me that C can go with both guys and girls.

So, closer to the end of the shows and after the mamasan's persistent push (not to mention my disappointing experience at Tawan), I told the mamasan I'd like to invite C over for a drink. C is also one of the models who performed in the sexy shows, so I had to wait until the shows are over. C has a lean, muscular body and is good looking (to me at least). Looking at him during the walks, he has that confident demeanor but seemed a little cold, so I was rather curious on why the mamasan was pushing so much for me to off him.

Anyway, he came over and sat with me. To my pleasant surprise, he was actually really friendly and we had a pleasant chat that night. He was not touchy and handsy at all (compared to A), which honestly works better for me (I know some here prefer to "sample" the guys at the bars first but I'm a little more reserved). Besides, my initial intention in asking him over was just to satisfy my own curiosity but I am so glad that I did invite him over. As it was already late night, I told him that I am not looking to off him tonight but will come again the next night to off him, if he is interested. He said yes, mentioning that he was also tired from his trainings during the day and performing in the shows earlier. So, I handed him some tips for the company and headed back to my hotel for the night.

 

True to my words, I came back the next night. It was still about 30-40mins before the show and the boys were already walking during one of their rounds. C saw me during the walk, shot a huge smile and gave a quick handshake before continuing with his walk. What a pleasant change from B, who (again) walked past me without any eye contact!. Anyway, I invited C for a drink after the walk and we chatted a bit more about his preferences and what I'm into (he's straight so he was upfront about the few things he does not do, which I am perfectly ok with). Closer to the show time, he excused himself to prep for the show but told me he would come back. And that he did. After the show was over, he came back to finish his drink and I decided to off him. Off Fee: THB 500.

Once out of the bar, he seemed more relaxed and we chatted all the way. I realized that he actually has a cheeky personality, flirting at random times as we made our way back to the hotel. Once at the hotel, I cleaned up first before him (he mentioned later that he was still a little shy to get naked in the shower together as this was our first session). When he came out all fresh, we started slowly and things progressed at really good pace to a really good ending 🤣. As he got more comfortable with me, his cheekiness came out during our session and I loved it. A lot of teasing and even dirty talks. The session felt like a mutual thing rather than the one-sided experience I felt at Jey Spa. We finished together and cleaned up, before going into the shower together. He was actually sweet enough that I was tempted to ask if he wanted to do a long time but decided against it (I had an early morning session planned with my companions on this trip). After showering, we relaxed a little and chatted more. He gave some recommendations on bars and cafes I could check out, some of which looked pretty cool on insta.

Eventually, I accompanied him out after giving his fee for the session. And yes, I did get his contact number and told him I'll give him a head's up before my next trip to BKK.

I visited Jupiter one last time on my last night (after my session with A during the day) just to kill some time after dinner. C saw me from the 2nd floor and waved. I asked him over for one last drink, chatted a bit before the show started. He thought I already left BKK, so was surprised to see me there. Told him I'll be flying out the next day. We chatted a bit more before he had to go prep for the show. I told him I wasn't staying long, so gave him some tips and said my goodbyes. I left the bar mid-show to prepare for my departure.

So, there you go. That was the last part of my experiences at the bars/spa. All in all, it was a good trip and I was happy with the offs I had during the trip. Looking forward to my next trip here (solo, hopefully )😊.

Glad you enjoyed your short trip and had fun time with nice guys @Shax

I think if you ever go to a bar with @vinapu the two of you will be in competition to off the models! You seem to have similar tastes.

1 minute ago, jason1975 said:

I think if you ever go to a bar with @vinapu the two of you will be in competition to off the models! You seem to have similar tastes

Haha yeah, I noticed this quite some time ago but @vinapu is more adventurous in exploring his taste in men compared to me. I have much to learn from him 😁.

3 hours ago, Shax said:

He mentioned a lot of things from our past encounters and still remembered my preferences (including my drink orders!)

This would spook me! 

Excellent reports, thank you

9 hours ago, Shax said:

I have much to learn from him 😁.

We all have. Especially  about building up our stamp collection!

14 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I think if you ever go to a bar with @vinapu the two of you will be in competition to off the models! You seem to have similar tastes.

that would be certainly fun and hope it will happen at one point in future. While having similar tastes seem to be sure thing , good news I'm not competitive and gladly yield to my bar hopping companions. There's always another day, There are exceptions when I see guy I absolutely must see for this or that reason.  In such a case I always call him over for drink  immediately to make sure he is mine

14 hours ago, Shax said:

 I noticed this quite some time ago but @vinapu is more adventurous in exploring his taste in men compared to me. I have much to learn from him 😁.

Perhpas not as much adventurous but not dogmatic. Even if I like meaty hunks, quite often when see smile directed at me I'm sold even if owner of that smile is a twink. On my last trip last month I even surprised myself how twink infested my room and bed were 

19 hours ago, Shax said:

(including my drink orders!).

@hank75 that'd be a keeper for me 😝

 

 

19 hours ago, Shax said:

To say I was pissed is an understatement. This was, by far, my worst experience with a boy who I haven't even offed yet.

We can't be everyone's Prince Charming... I'd say you missed a bullet with this one and got away cheap, only a drink.  Imagine if you offed him, took him to your room to find out then what his true persona was, I've been there more times than I care to remember and more than the money, is the wasted time and if it's too late to find anyone else, it's also a lost night 


 

 

19 hours ago, Shax said:

consists of guys that are more of the "boy next door" type

I might have to take a look next time, not the twinks though.



 

 

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

good news I'm not competitive and gladly yield to my bar hopping companions. There's always another day, There are exceptions when I see guy I absolutely must see for this or that reason.  In such a case I always call him over for drink  immediately to make sure he is mine

I think I'm going to change calling you from Auntie Vin to Speedy..... because I must've caught you two times on exceptions nights, once at the massage place and another time at the bar in front of Hot Male, I forget the name it's changed so many times.

My eyes hadn't even focused to the change of lighting and you already had selected someone both times, not that I would've went with them, but it was reminiscent of the TomCal days in Rio, we referred to him as the Frigate Bird 😝

 

 

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

how twink infested my room and bed were 

that’s the risk of being a room size queen, the square footage opens you up to infestations of all kinds 🐛

I hope it didn't look as bad as @Olddaddy last room pics 

7 hours ago, vinapu said:

that would be certainly fun and hope it will happen at one point in future. While having similar tastes seem to be sure thing , good news I'm not competitive and gladly yield to my bar hopping companions. There's always another day, There are exceptions when I see guy I absolutely must see for this or that reason.  In such a case I always call him over for drink  immediately to make sure he is mine

Haha as it so happens, I am not competitive too! Also, I tend to go back to my usual guys aside from the occasional case of trying a new guy, usually when my regular guys are not around or someone really catches my eye.

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

@hank75 that'd be a keeper for me 😝

Same here. I find it sweet that he remembered a lot of things even after a couple of years since we last met.

4 hours ago, floridarob said:

We can't be everyone's Prince Charming... I'd say you missed a bullet with this one and got away cheap, only a drink.  Imagine if you offed him, took him to your room to find out then what his true persona was, I've been there more times than I care to remember and more than the money, is the wasted time and if it's too late to find anyone else, it's also a lost night 

I guess so. I think the fact that it was so blatant was what caught me off guard and pissed me off. Most boys, even if they're not into you, would at least be nice enough during the time they accompany a customer. Anyway, thanks to C, I will definitely return to Jupiter.

Also, aside from C, there was another guy who smiled at me during all his walks while I was at Jupiter, so maybe I'd offer him a drink the next time I am there.

 

16 hours ago, floridarob said:

I think I'm going to change calling you from Auntie Vin to Speedy..... because I must've caught you two times on exceptions nights, once at the massage place and another time at the bar in front of Hot Male, I forget the name it's changed so many times.

My eyes hadn't even focused to the change of lighting and you already had selected someone both times, not that I would've went with them, but it was reminiscent of the TomCal days in Rio, we referred to him as the Frigate Bird 😝
..........

that’s the risk of being a room size queen, the square footage opens you up to infestations of all kinds 🐛

I hope it didn't look as bad as @Olddaddy last room pics 

call me what you wish I'm not short of self -esteem and can take verbal abuse easily. 

Bar was then called Sol, short lived venue. Reason for my speedy action was that I was surprised to to see that guy on the stage. I was  thinking he went home and is gone from the scene. 

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I travel lightly so don't carry enough stuff to make a mess of even biggest room. Being neat and well organized helps too. 

I remember that ruin Oldddady made of his room at Quarter Silom and then proudly showed us. Almost as weird habit as having sex with women 

12 hours ago, Shax said:

Haha as it so happens, I am not competitive too! Also, I tend to go back to my usual guys aside from the occasional case of trying a new guy, usually when my regular guys are not around or someone really catches my eye.

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Same here. I find it sweet that he remembered a lot of things even after a couple of years since we last met.

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Also, aside from C, there was another guy who smiled at me during all his walks while I was at Jupiter, so maybe I'd offer him a drink the next time I am there.

 

there's useful etiquette when bar or spa hopping with somebody - whoever suggested place first and we went there should have first call as to whom to pick up. 

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that is true that boys often  show they have fantastic memory   and remember stuff  for years. Nor really universal though.

Years ago I offed  guy from long gone Adonis Massage in soi Convent . It was my longest Long Time  as we spent together at least 12 hrs . Half year later I'm meeting him by chance in soi Twilight , we both are smiling broadly but after exchanging first or 2nd sentence it was obvious he is taking me for somebody different. 

Even worse was Pattaya case in old formula of BBB. I asked mamasan I was friendly with to call certain guy. minute or two later embarrassed mamasan comes with news he doesn't want to talk to me because  some payment issue previously. I did many bad things in my long life but screwing boy on payment , no it never happened. I was taken for someody else and cheap at that   

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one of features of Jupiter I like is that while during their walks boys maintain disinterested look , not paying attention at all , as soon as they are invited for  drink they become all smiles. 

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

I'm not short of self -esteem and can take verbal abuse easily. 

You are THE Esteemed Forum Member however 🤷‍♂️

And you taking verbal abuse..... is that a fetish we should take note of for references down the line?

 

 

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

I was  thinking he went home and is gone from the scene. 

He wasn't.... but after a sip of the drink you bought him, he was gone from the seat to see someone else....💸


 

 

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

Almost as weird habit as having sex with women 

A habit I luckily ditched when I was about 17-18....wasn't for me, it worked as a distraction to be closer to their brothers though 😉

23 minutes ago, floridarob said:

He wasn't.... but after a sip of the drink you bought him, he was gone from the seat to see someone else....💸

I think we are mixing here two different cases from different bars together

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

it was obvious he is taking me for somebody different. 

Yes, I forgot this one.... reminded me of when we 1st met, you went up to someone else thinking it was me...

 

 

4 minutes ago, vinapu said:

I think we are mixing here two different cases from different bars together

No, it was Sol, we sat together and the kid left to sit with another customer almost immediately after you bought him a drink and only took a sip from .... my frugal mind noticed and I boiled a little inside, even though it wasn't my money.

3 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Yes, I forgot this one.... reminded me of when we 1st met, you went up to someone else thinking it was me...

no thinking was involved, one of waiters told me ' your friend is waiting for you " and pointed at that other guy who by the way still frequents that bar often, I see him there every trip .Must be local farang  

3 minutes ago, vinapu said:

and pointed at that other guy

They pointed in that direction, it's a small bar..... and you came marching over, but to the wrong guy, even hugged him and shook his hand..... that's when I realized how easy you were 😝

The look on HIS face was hysterical though ....

On 8/26/2026 at 4:38 AM, 12is12 said:

Unless shax failed to note such specification by the spa (highly unlikely), it doesnt seem like a "chemistry or miscommunication" problem.

JJ didnt want to do any HJ or BJ, or apparently anything beyond nipples. Assuming shax indeed "shared this preference" beforehand, assigning him an unreciprocating masseur is bad service.  

Many masseurs operate according to a script. At an H place like Jey Spa they will as a matter of course offer penetrative services according to their listed role. Some, most often straight providers, have problems improvising beyond their script if customer changes his mind and wants side fun and cuddling during session. This is a well known phenomenon that most Thai massage reviewers are keenly aware of. 

 

15 hours ago, Enchanted_Elixir said:

At an H place like Jey Spa they will as a matter of course offer penetrative services according to their listed role. Some, most often straight providers, have problems improvising beyond their script if customer changes his mind and wants side fun and cuddling during session.

 

while I heard this from others I must say I never had an issue  at Jey with  guy being made to change his script. One of reasons I keep returning and returning there