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  1. I Like thed host, the location, the rooms, and the price at Om Yim, but found the narrow stairs a big draw back.  Well, no place is perfect but I do like elevators.

    You are shortly to marry 31 y.o and you  looking for elevators in 4 storey building? What kind of bed exercises you are planning beside of snoring? Just curious.

  2. I guess we all have different experiences.  I really like Incheon airport and never noticed it was too warm.  And I thought the food was fine on Korean Air (although I do eat with the  peasants in economy class...hehe).

    I was there on Tuesday, thanks God airport  was warm as temperature outside was below freezing when we arrived from BKK.

     

    I like leg room in economy in Korean Air. When they served some kind of Korean dish they even had printed instruction how to prepare it. And it's only airline I know where you make your own tea - they pour water and hand you tea bag instead treating you with some tepid brown water called tea as other airlines do , at least in economy. 

  3. The last time I flew back to the states, I had a ten hour layover in Incheon, and Korean air put me up in a nice Hotel for free.  You can't beat that for service.  I did have to go through customs, but that took less then 10 minutes.  Smiles is correct about the showers, but there is also a hotel in the airport if you wish to avoid customs, and some really nice inexpensive hotels near to the airport if you are paying.  A lot of people choose just to stay in the airport as there are quite rest areas in many areas of the airport on the second level.  Koko, I found the temp okay.  Give Incheon a second chance, I think you just got a bad day.

     

    The last time I flew back to the states, I had a ten hour layover in Incheon, and Korean air put me up in a nice Hotel for free.  You can't beat that for service.  I did have to go through customs, but that took less then 10 minutes.  Smiles is correct about the showers, but there is also a hotel in the airport if you wish to avoid customs, and some really nice inexpensive hotels near to the airport if you are paying.  A lot of people choose just to stay in the airport as there are quite rest areas in many areas of the airport on the second level.  Koko, I found the temp okay.  Give Incheon a second chance, I think you just got a bad day.

    I like that airport, in the afternoon you have even a chance to listen to live music and see Korean folk performances. If you are in transit and have enough time there are several options to take a free tour of various places around the airport and Seoul city itself.

  4. I don't live in Pattaya and I only have one boyfriend.  I don't think a boy's tip should be a fixed amount.  I think it should be a sliding scale based on your looks and weight .  Some farangs should pay at least 3000 baht and others. like me, should get it free. :good:  Here is a picture of me and my BF.  He is on the left

     

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    Boy is cute but you should be better dressed and not a such cheap Charlie so you can afford decent underwear instead of  using leaf . We are no longer living on the trees anymore , you know?

  5. When trying to threw out long time off from Dreamboys for non existing  performance with 1000 baht offer he called mamasan and she wanted me to pay him 'short time rate of 1500" so it looks it is what is expected by  boys in BKK nowadays / still he left with 1000 only/.

     

    Another long time off from that bar wanted 3000 in the morning, got it but only because I thought he deserved it and liked a boy anyways and was prepared to pay that amount, others I pay 2500 plus 500 bonus only in case when they are undressing and are sporting hard on already before I tough them. 

     

    Boy from Adonis Massage  where I was requested by the manager to pay tip of 1500 up front seemed nicely surprised when I top this with another 1000 in the morning, well it was exactly noon. He got actually 1500 as bonus was applicable. No money were discussed through whole process.

     

    Boy from Bonny Massage offed for long time at agreed rate 2500 could stay with me 3 hours only and suggested 1500  for his trouble.

     

    Boy from Arena wanted 5000 minimum in the morning but went away with 3000 / 2500+500 bonus/  not happy but without resistance other than suddenly deciding not to have breakfast with me. Where such high unheard of rate he picked up from is not known to me. I suspect another boy from the same venue told him he got 5000 from me without explaining it was for 2 long time offs.

  6. I have not a happy experience with both long time offs in PTY last week, it seemed all they wanted to do was just to sleep without any disturbance  from me. I think it must be clearly negotiated beforehand what is expected in terms of  in the bed behavior and when boy will be allowed to go to get long time rate. Lesson learned by me kind of hard and expensive way, still great and warm bodies though.   

  7. As for changing ,money in the BKK airport-rate is the same in every single counter BUT WITH ONE EXCEPTION:

     

    last counter before you enter trains area, it will be on your right. It seems this area doesn't belong to airport since uniform rate is not adhered to there , rather they have Silom/ Sukhumvit  street rate, This was case in may and the same on Nov 11th when I arrived.

     

    So wait until you are almost to board the train. Caution-they may not be opened 24 hrs so it may not work when you arrive post midnight. I was there 9.45p.m. and they were opened, airport rate was 30.00, they had 31.22. Not much difference if you are exchanging 100 USD but quite a bit if we are talking 1000.

  8. I like current color scheme if you ask me, bright bold colors are good for advertising but hard on eyes to read and write IMHO,

     

    I like bigger smileys proposal, hate zombie's rainbow square / sorry , nothing personal zombie / proposal, but it's just me

  9. Jet lag fought traditional way-forced myself to carry on throughout the day, went to bed about normal time, slept night through and is seems I'm over with it.

     

    Good to hear that massage works so well for you. I go about once per week, and then I would rather get my hands on his body than having his hands on my body.

     

    What do you think, when is the best time (i.e. highest number of masseurs available) at Banana? I walked past several times, but nobody sits outside, and I don't want to pop in when there is high probability I will leave without massage. I quite like the style where all available masseurs sit outside, so I can have a look when I walk past.

     

     It's 50 / 50 for me, first his hands on me , then other way around after massage done.

     

    At Banana there's no room to sit outside as it is on the corner of busy soi 11 and a narrow sub soi whatever it is.

    Both times I was there in the late afternoon, on Thursday only few boys , Monday 10 days later trice as much, did not count as spotted one I came for right away. So can't advise about good time , each of my 2 times may be statistic aberration either way.

     

    Lobby inside is pretty big so boys are not in your face in case you don't like anybody but I agree it's awkward to come and leave empty handed. I guess they saw it all already so wouldn't worry but I like it there.

     

    I saw actually quite a few places where you don't have boys sitting outside- all three places in City Court / Candle , Sawadtee and Sanctuary by A / Adonis,   Aqua, Uniman , Guy Spa, all of them you need to enter to see boys available.  

    Eh, those were fabulous 15 days !

  10. Hi all

     

    I am back home after my holiday in Thailand. How is your holiday Vinapu? I spent 3 nights in Pattaya, 2 nights in Hua Hin and 7 nights in Bangkok. This is my first trip to Thailand..... Amazing trip and wondered if I overpaid....

     

    There were not much massage shop or club/bar at Hua Hin. In fact, I think that the gay scene over there was a bit quiet. However, I did enjoy the beach and the sun.

     

    In Pattaya, as mentioned previously, I went to Abomb and chose that guy in the first pic (photo took by firecat). It was disappointing........ Vinapu, if you like eye candy or worshipped lean/muscular guy like me, I suggest that you choose other boys. There are a few others who matched our type. This boy was disappointing. Also, he asked me for more tips, 1000bahts but I refused and gave him 100bahts. In the end, I paid him a total of 1600 bahts (excluding bar fine). Just wondering am I paying too much? Veterans out there, please advise...

     

    2nd night, I went out late because I woke up quite late after a nap. I went to NAB. There were so many cuties out there and everyone was having fun. I left at abt 1.30am and headed to boyztown. It was a mistake on my part because I intend to reach there earlier to catch the show but I forgot abt the time. Most of the shops were closing and Toy Boy has already closed. I could see that many boys were already leaving the place to go back. I was a bit anxious because I did not want to go back alone. 1 of the boy outside the massage shop Scandic (hope I remembered correctly), saw me and waved to me. He asked me if I wanted any massage. However, the shop was already closing (in fact I think closed), lights off and chairs already packed inside. Abt 4 boys at the entrance preparing to go back. I think they are preparing to close and lock up the place. I asked him if the shop was still opened for business, he told me yes... no problem sir... ok for you... go hotel you want?? Thus, I said ok to go hotel for massage. He said he would take care of me. He was not my type. I saw a lean/fit/handsome guy and requested for that guy. They told me to pay upfront at the counter and I paid 1800 bahts to bring the boy back to hotel for outcall massage service. I asked him if it include the tip for the boy, he told me yes. Back in the hotel, after showering, the boy started to massage for me. He told me that I was lucky because normally it would cost abt 2000-2500bahts for outcall massage service. As I went there during the closing time, they gave me a discount.. Is that true?? The massage was not really good and I could sense that the boy was trying to end it asap. He told me that he forgot to bring condom, and he pretended to search his bag for a while. I found it hard to believe his story. Normally I thought massage boy/gogo boy always have condoms with them either in their wallet or bag (I might be wrong). I told him that the hotel did provide condom. I went to take and pass the condom to him. He was trying to rush everything. After everything has finished, I did not intend to give him any extra tips as I was not happy. He told me that I have to give him 1000bahts... I was shocked because I thought that it has already been included in the 1800bahts that I paid upfront over the counter.... He told me that it was different and this is his min tip etc....... In the end, it was quite late ard 3.10am in the morning and I just paid him and showed him to the door. I did believe that I was overcharged in this instance. Am I correct? What is the rate to pay for inhouse massage at the shop and for outcall massage? What abt the minimum tip for the boy? 

     

    3rd night, I went to Boy Boy Boy. I offed a lean/muscular chap. He was 27 years old and handsome. Oh my god, he was a cobra.... long and thick. It was fun. I paid him 1800 baht and he was happy (1500bahts was the norm + 300bahts for the extra tips). 

     

    Actually, what is the price that veterans out there paid for short time? 1000 -1500bahts? Someone please advise.. Thanks

     

    In Bangkok, I went to Hero, V Club, Aqua, Arena and Banana Club for massage. I wanted to try Albury too but it was closed. Closed for business (Not operating anymore). I was not sure what was the reason but heard probably it was due to the bad location and poor business from others at other massage shops.

    Hero and V Club has a lot of good looking, fit, lean and muscular type (model type) but probably most of them were straights looking to earn money. Many customers in Hero and V Club. Banana Club was mostly twinks and all of them were gays. Aqua has some muscular type. Arena was a bit disappointing and not many choice for me.       

    I walked passed Soi Twilight and went to Dream Boy. I did manage to off 1 boy who was my type. Brought him back to my hotel. After everything has finished (it was average to me), he asked for 3000 bahts but I only paid him 2500bahts. So did I overpay ?? 

    The rest of the days I managed to find someone from either jackd or grindr. Enough to keep me occupied and I did not go to any bar or club. Some of them did not ask me for any money but some of them did ask for help to pay for bills or others. I did give them 1000-1500bahts depending on the situation. 

     

    Hope that you guys are not bored with my update. It was an amazing trip and I look forward to go back again in Dec. Perhaps I might want to engage a local tour guide to bring and show me around Thailand in Dec. Alternatively, any volunteer out there ?? 

    They took you for a ride like all of us from time to time, With Boyz Boyz Boyz you were generous but if you were happy nothing wrong with you. Scandic / now Boy Club / boy was too greedy , 800 was massage fee and 1000 was supposed to be given to boy by the shop, anything on top of this would be warranteed only if negotioated but everything over 2000 would be good long time rate for PTY , may be too high even. As consolation don't worry I overpaid too.

     

    I gave 1500 to boy from Abomb for very good but 1 hr only performance/ time agreed beforehand /, he took it but did not seem overly excited with amount so may be even PTY is moving to this range 

     

    Dreamboys short time rate is 1500, I was told this by mamasan during my unhappy interaction with the # 31. I kicked boy with 1000,  he wanted 1500 as short rate , called mamasan who told me the same but I did not  yield a baht. See my post.  

     

    A for 2500 / 3000 it depends you were with him short or long time / overnight / 2500 would be norm for long time it seems. My boy also wanted 3000 and he got it but it was long long time and he worked hard for his money , believe me .

     

    I look at things of overpaying not as much as what norm is but if I get value for money. I'd rather pay more and enjoy time  than pay less and enjoy a savings.

  11. And this is the last update, early  Monday afternoon I decided to check former B&N, now called Uniman massage in Korea city , soi 12 on Sukhumvit close to Asok BTS. Raise your head when inside the building  , you will see banner on the 4 th floor , take elevator up there and is easy to find  .

     

    At 2 p.m quite a few boys available all good looking, HERO type boys. Picked up  one with broadest shoulders and smile, happen to be the same boy, Art.

     

    Great massage , I asked for a strong one before such a long flight. Lots of chemistry built up but unfortunately too late to invite him for overnight session he said would be willing to consider gladly. Surely next time, I missed this , my fault. 

     

    Left in very good mood and with some time available decided to kiss good bye to Tau at Banana in the soi 11. I liked his massage last week and of course asked for repeat. I like the boy , his boss and the place. This time quite a big selection of boys , last time there were only 6 , now more than dozen.

     

    Some may wonder if I'm not overmassaged or even making this up , but no , I just like the stuff both for body benefit / I barely slept those 2 weeks and still feeling good day after day / and for a thrill of this moment when boy's hands start wandering here and there.

     

    Another great massage and missed long lime off opportunity , reason  to return.

     

    Between 7-8 dining at Maxi's with my perennial consolator Namu from Bangkok boys across the soi, hoping one our our posters will show up but he did not , my fault likely as I left him message about my plans way too late.

     

    Then again last last massage by him  , short one so some time was left for a mutual feeling of each other. I just like the boy and I landed him in May just a by rotation assignment. Chemistry thing, with 2 long time offs , massage at my room in the first night, at Bangkok Masage today and almost daily wai/ handshaking in the soi he had plenty of opportunities to ask me  for this or that but never did.

     

    20 minutes were enough for me to pack, BTS from Sala Daeng to Phaya Thai, 10 p.m. express to Swamp and at 0.15left LOS for the 9 th time after longest stay there ever.

     

    Will create separate post about my impressions of places but need to fight jet lag first. 

    If even only one of you found my posts interesting or informative that my time typing them was well used.

  12. 7" model would be ideal for "light useage".   Also have a look @ 8" models if you're going to use it frequently.

     

     

    I try to ignore that kind of request.

    Last year I had a receptionist advise me not to visit Soi Duangthawee and suggested I could find partners @ the disco. Well, I don't want to be in some noisy sweaty disco to 3:00 am hoping to find a nice partner, or worse any old partner for the night. So the advice was just disregarded.

     

    Can also be helpful to ignore black looks @ breakfast from other customers when staying in non-gay hotels & dining with one's new best friend.

    Actually when connecting in Seoul last night  had a good look at Samsung 8" at the Incheon airport, looks sleek.

     

    As for nosy hotel staff and guests I don't mind looking back and saying none of your business when asked / actually did quite a few times/ but still don't like scrutiny.

     

    As for guest looks at the tables in hotels and restaurants it's just fine, on this trip on quite a few occasion I had  those approving winks, including 2 from ladies so no problem. 

  13. Christian , reasons for hotel hopping are two :

     

    first butterfly by heart I guess, like to try new places, as travel lightly moving is no problem for me.

     

    Second, in smaller hotels particularly , I don't want be object of  unnecessary staff attention a to my and my company comings and goings, for example few days ago staff at BBB was interested why I left boy in the room and went away / to pick up bag I left at Balcony and was back in less than 10 minutes/

     

    To all, this is my last post from BKK , next update from home as my plane leaves at midnight and still want to spent sme time at soi Twilight, see boy special for the last time and pack, this is easy part.

     

    If Korean Air crashes somewhere tonight wish me good rest in the next  world

  14. Back to updates. Saturday evening went to Soi Twilght and decided to try anoher massage place based there XSize massage.

     

    Felt adventurous so grabbed first in line, diminutive Cambodian. Delivered surprisingly strong massage and offered extras equally fast but I declined, opting for some hugging and caressing instead. Getting more intimate with somebody who looks and feels  like my best friend grandson was beyond my abilities.

     

    At 9.p.m. James was waiting for me downstairs from Arena, gave him 700 for off fee so he can pay them tomorrow and we went for a dinner and then to Dreamboys for as how again. For me is like entering den of lion  after misadventures   described above but decided to make a peace, tipped both #31 and #83 100 baht each  to show that I do not harbor hard feelings After show back to Pavilion Hotel for night of fun.

     

    It ended surprisingly uneasy on departure in the morning. Decided to offer generous 3000 tip and clearly boy was disappointed to a point of being lost or he is good actor. He told  5000 minimum but I firmly told him I pay what is on the tab and he relented but declined to go for a breakfast with me.

     

    What surprises me is where his expectancy would be coming from, did his coworker DIT lied to him about size of my tips for some reason?

    I understand he may be trying to get more but facial expression did not lie, certainly he was disappointed like hell and was expecting more or did not expect any resistance from me and this was what disappointed him that I did not allow to be taken for a ride.

     

    Still great guy and great company but definitely next time I off boy for short or long time fee will be firmly negotiated and announced before we will go.

     

    Since this s last day decided to go a little touristy - took BTS to Saphan Taksin and at 9.45 boarded boat to Grand Palace.

     

    Did not go there but took long stroll back home visiting ChristianPFC famous hunting ground at Saranrom Park. Obviously  no sing of boys  that early. Long stloll along Charoen Krung and exactly at 11.45 was back  on the Saphan Taksin's platform.

     

    Obviously all those massages are working as it's quite a distance to cover in 90 minutes or so. Nice to surprise myself.

  15. These days, most people use wifi & the Om Yim certainly has that.

    A basic Samsung 7" tablet doesn't cost much, does internet browsing, fits in your pocket and doubles up as a e-reader.

    If you want to type a lot, pair it up with a £20 Anker bluetooth keyboard.

     

    So which of these hotels is the best?

    I've been using nothing but the Om Yim for 5 years, so would be interested to know how the others compare.

    I'm taking off at midnight today and after return home will try to summarize my findings about hotels,  bars, massages etc.

     

    You are right about having private access to internet but my fear always is I will be spending too much time interneting and e-mailing neglecting vacation side of vacations. Will consider Samsund 7" as advised.

     

    If you are using Om Yim stay there, nothing wrong and safe in the room  was working / was not at Tarntawan/

     

    Boy from Playboy massage showed me an internet cafe  on 2nd floor next to their shop. All based at Silom will find location convenient.

    Typing this right now and staring at the boy beside surfing GayRomeo .

  16. Time is easy as I devoted this trip to the pleasures of flesh skipping sightseeing, shopping and other turisty stuff. But finfding internet cafee is not easy , some hotels  / Tarntawan, BBB INN  / have free internet , Malaysia has paid one / 40 bht /hr/ but Om Yim and Pavillion Place in Patpong has none.

     

    At noon moved from BBB INN to Pavillion Place , right in Patpong , exactly above Screwboys. Price the same range  like Malaysia or Om Yim but I'm not that impressed . lets say adequate, Just one night / tonight  / but I need  room for whole day tomorrow as my flight leaves at midnight so did not want to pay 1320 at BBB Inn just for half day use plus I like changing places.

    As for joys of Patpong you can't do better location wise.

     

    As promised checked another one of Silom places , this time Playboys, went for twink with smile sitting outside.

     

    Did not eat today by his admission and it was 3 p. m. but when suggested extras and I partially agreed and a tip was set he worked on me vigorously sporting an impressive appendage delivering quite a load, I'm telling .  For a boy of such a small stature quite a  surprise and his girfriend must be happy.

     

    This is pretty big , multi storey place on Sala Daeng side of Silom close to the Rama end. Quite a few cuties always on the street on duty, looks could keep one occupied for a while. All appoinment conducted with utmost discretion with whispers and of course no showering together at all.

     

    I start falling in love with those supposedly staright massage places as it looks possibility of surprises is abundant. May be will try another one tomorrow as good bye kiss. Still hope to land one today and have an arrangement made with James from Arena for the last night in BKK.

  17. So now we are in Saturday update, not much time as I left bed and a boy at noon. 

     

    Early afternoon to Arena, to secure my night stand with Dit one of my trusted consolators. Set but for actual massage I took James ,muscular boy I saw last May. He improved greatly with mody mass, shed any fat remaining but cheerful as before. Great to talk to as well. Massage great but poor choice of cream of my side  -milk cream , smells like ice cream. Set an appointment for Sunday with James for long time off and promised  to pick up Dit at 9 p.m. in the evening.

     

    Sounds awkward but is not, boys are talking about their customers and obviously James was updated on me. And thet know butterfly mode.

     

    Next step little later was to support massage boys from my very own BBB Inn, picked up Noi, skinny twink but somehow attrcative to me. Good massage, versatile boy, entertaned himself more with watching porn on my TV than my carcass but we parted our ways happy.

     

    Masages at BBB Inn are a bit awkward if you stay there, you get 20 % but in exchange ensurance that all hotel will know of what you like in bed, where you short , cheap Charlie or sucker for big tips  and so on.

     

    Evening stroll through Silom and Patpong , moments og horror as I just busted my budget  and wanted to teke some money from Visa, tried 3 cards and it did not work / worked next morning so all good/

     

    Took Dit off and second time in row Arena did not charge me off fee, likely because I had massage earlier today and Dit was scheduled till 9 only, but still nice gesture and savings of 700 for me.

     

    Traditional routine, dinner and show before room. We went to Balcony in soi 4, soi very crowded on Saturday night but I did not like it at all, not my crowd , not my scene, Soi Twilight prefere 10 times over Soi 4. Sorry if offended anybody but rerst assured chances I will take a sit at your favourite table are minimal.

     

    For show to Jupiter, usulal their standard., not much of nudity but few glimpses of erect cocks, bar very crowded with young Asian ccrowd and lots of adventirous ladies in attendance.

     

    Then back to hotel with interruption of mne going back to Balcony where I left my bag, nothing there but they found it anf kept for me, tipped 100 baht for trouble.

     

    As with trusted and time tested  friends no shocking news from encounter with Dit , all according to previously scripted specification, great guy and my great company.

     

    Breakfast at Foodland Patpong, good deal they have , American breakfast for 59 baht befire 9 a.m. And plenty of Thai food for Dit to choose too , will ber leaving  BBB Inn in 12 minutes to need to finish but we are already on Sunday, my second last day before returniung to slavery.

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    After saying all that, I rely a lot on the instincts of BF now.  He has a knack for knowing what is going to work well and setting things up.  The advantages of cultural knowledge.  LOL

     

    Last trip (Sept) we took a boy from Vassa and had great fun.  It was not the one I was most attracted to...but deferred to BF advice....no regrets. 

    You are in shackles now , you just don't know it and good for you. As long as you know you are not boss anymore lots of happy times ahead for both of you, my best for you

  19. Don't people normally recommend the 2 boys are hired from different bars? 

    As they would be too shy to perform with or on their friends.

    My input will be, go with boys want to ensure they enjoy time with you nad themselves.

    I'd go for 4 hands massage again but threesome may be in next life only but again , each one looks for different spices for his meal.

  20. Great trip reports Vinapu and any time you can put evil thoughts in the head of Anonone you have accomplished something.

    Now it is Anonones's turn to pick up the story telling and I will return in 24 days.

     

    By then Anonone should be able to tell me which 2 boys from Vassa work well together.  Or maybe I should ask his BF.  LOL

    One thought here , recommendations are great but we still need to go by our own guts. Some of my boys would  impress very few and the same goes other way around, what is music for some it's just noise for others / jazz for me for example/

  21. Another great update vinapu. 

     

    It is quite a burden to feel all these obligations while on holiday.  Hopefully you will be able to complete your obligation in a manner not too unpleasant...dare to hope even enjoyable...?  LOL

     

    It is very interesting to hear the various methods and strategies of different folks while on holiday in Thailand.  I wasn't aware that there were so many appointments made to meet up with the boys.  I have always been more of a go-with-the-flow type of visitor...even before BF. 

     

    And I am now intrigued by the 4-hand massage.  As you indicated the 2 guys did not interact with each other, would you say it was worth it to pay the increased cost (minimum tip) for this at a Man2Man place, or just as well to have it at a more traditional shop?  Was the only hanky-panky a hand job by one of the guys? 

     

    Anyone have any thoughts about that?  I guess in Pattaya, the only M2M place that it would make sense is Magnolia...for the better massage standard...but I can think of several other "regular" shops where it might be worthwhile for the massage aspect.  Anyone take a 4hand at any of the gay massage places.  Reports?

     

    Hmmm...firecat puts the thought of a 4some in my head...and now vinapu causes this 4hand massage thought.

     

    I am being corrupted by evil influences, I think.  LOL

     

    Good luck on finding some fun today vinapu.  Have no fear about the Thai economy.  I arrive in less then a week, and will take your place as the economic stimulus....at least for Pattaya.

     

    Cheers.

    Heavier burden the better as I like manly boys. I enjoyed all of my encounters bar one  as previously described. Some flops but still good boys , sometimes it's just lack of chemisty and proper professional behaviour of their part otr may be me, ugly farang, who knows.

     

    As for 4  hands I acted on urge to try new approach, in my particular case was worth it, boys co-operated greaty on me and sent me to high heaven, even now two days later I smile typing that. Will do it again but rather prefere one on one encounters. Did not mind to pay two tips and increased  shop fee.

     

    My advice is starndard one -just try and see. But definitely do what I did and ask on eboy to select another one or mamasan dop this for you. It may be disaster if you go for looks and boys will not be compatible with each other going just for money.

     

    I know it looks my time was very structured but in reality was not, If I see attractive boy I just try to secure my place in line, it why all those appoiontments.

     

    I don't haver any complaints about Pattya massages, as good as in BKK, just offs were flops but all Magnolia, Derby , Copa and Boys Club in Boyztown  have good selection of boys and was glad to patronize all four.

     

    Economy wise boys and bars did great with  me, restaurants so, so, I'm not  big eater. Shopping wise complete lack of contribution with 3 durable goods purchsed to take home, shorts, belt and suitcase as zipper broke in one I brought with me.

  22. thanks for you report, as I see, you like BKK more than Pattaya - am I right?

    Was pleased to check some spas websites - as you mentioned them :)

    (and btw noting good for you in Sunee Plaza as you are more in muscle boys)

    Definitely BKK over Pattya for me and it has nothing to do with boys, I just like big city life, period. In PTY if you remove night time activities not much left for me do do but definitely I will be trying to go back, missed few recommended bars unfortunately.

     

    If you are Russian you have me on your side, at least in those 2 days I did not found any  base for some coplaints  about Russians in Pattaya, I think is all BS. I found them well behaved and good spenders, just can smile a bit more, otherwise are bliending in with all those sombre farangs.

     

     

    As for websites keep in mind often pictures of atendees are not up to date,  sometimes it's good thing . Arena boys all look better in the flesh than on their website for example. Lots of Thais are actually looking younger than their pictures show.

     

    I'm for muscle boys but costantly found myself in the company of twinks so preferences are one thing and what life brings , another.

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