JackR

Hi hi, the rentboy's im the Netherlands all went to the internet.
The biggest website is www.boys4u.nl. You can change the language to English and most adds are in English also!
Have a good time in the Kingdom of the Netherlands

Sadly, my last foray into Amsterdam's nightlife was back in the days of the now defunct Blue Boy/Why Not? clubs.

If you don't get any better tips, here's a list of bars in the gay area. I'd suggest popping in for a pop and asking one of the locals. I've always found the Dutch to be friendly, multilingual, and helpful.
Best of luck!

Last time I was there only one place advertised as a house, (it was), but the selection ranged from fair to poor.

Hi All
I might be heading to Amsterdam next month for business and I was wondering if anyone had any info about the scene here? I couldn't find much. From what I heard, this place was great in the eighties / nineties - I never got to experience this - but now everyone is saying that all the old bars have been closed, and that the place is finished. I believe boysclub21 is still open, but the few reviews for this place have been poor. Does anyone know if there is anywhere young hustlers still operate? - eastern european / romanian / turks? Or is it only online? Any info would be appreciated. Even if you would prefer to pm.
Thanks

Hi All
I might be heading to Amsterdam next month for business and I was wondering if anyone had any info about the scene here? I couldn't find much. From what I heard, this place was great in the eighties / nineties - I never got to experience this - but now everyone is saying that all the old bars have been closed, and that the place is finished. I believe boysclub21 is still open, but the few reviews for this place have been poor. Does anyone know if there is anywhere young hustlers still operate? - eastern european / romanian / turks? Or is it only online? Any info would be appreciated. Even if you would prefer to pm.
Thanks

Departed home yesterday morning for my month long holiday to Thailand, had no problems getting through Indonesia (unlike the massive queues that I faced at immigration there last year, unfortunately flying from where I live I must pass through their immigration).
 
The Thai airways flight was as smooth as could be expected with the cabin crew really looking after us up the front of the plane and the food and wine was delicious, had to stop drinking the pinot noir as it was going down too well.
 
Then I hit Bangkok, I thought the pilot was going to run out of airport as we seemed to taxi around a hell of a lot after touch down and as I thought, he parked up in what must have been the furthest spot from the terminals. Then it was off to immigration by bus as usual, I don't know if visitor numbers are down at this time compared to other years but immigration was packed and of course I ended up in the wrong line again. Usually when I fly in at this time (just after 7pm) I get through immigration in about 5 minutes but not last night. When I finally got near the counter the immigration officer started reading a girls passport like it was a novel, lo and behold there was a problem for her and her mate so that held the line up longer than it should have.
 
Finally got to the hotel and booked in without any hassles and after a quick shower to freshen up I went for a drink and a snack. Good to see quite a few people walking around Silom and the Patpong night market (only walked past the night market not through it). Decided to just head back to the hotel and have an early night and as I walked past Soi Twilight (or Soi Boy as I call it) I noticed that their seemed like plenty of people down there but that could have just been an abundance of locals and as tempting as it was I decided to continue back to the hotel for at least one night of decent sleep.
 
Today starting off with a trip to MBK to take in a movie and to check out the eye candy (both male and female), later on this afternoon will be heading down to Soi Boy for my massage and hopefully a bit of fun (or a lot of fun). Still looking at either Bonny or Bangkok for the first massage and will decide when I get there, it may come down to who is available at both places, looking for a top as I have missed playing with some hard Thai cock.
 
Stay tuned.

from my last trip:
 
BBB Inn - one boy requested to leave ID, two let go without, one was insider so no problem, ordinary  guests not asked for ID
 
Tarntawan - ID requested in both cases
 
Take A Nap - nobody was bothered with ID
 
Cafe Royale  - ID requested in all 3 cases
 
Malaysia - one boy ID requested and when left reception called to confirms I'm alive, two boys went in unmolested by reception, likely because I smile and wave at reception stuff any time I'm passing by during day
 
Om Yim - ID requested in all three cases
 
Nantra Silom - nobody bothered with ID 

The policy of hotels regarding boy guests varies. Some insist on retaining the ID card. One hotel even gave me a form to sign when I returned with a boy to stay overnight. Some check that everything is OK before giving the card back, although I normally accompany the boy to reception for this purpose. Some hotels are not bothered whether cards are handed in or not and others find holding the cards a nuisance.
More places are using plastic cards to open the room door which are not handed in at reception but are retained by the guest. Sometimes particularly late at night or at small guesthouses you find nobody at reception or the guy is fast asleep.
It can be reassuring when the card is properly checked that you havent acquired an under age boy.

Depends on Hotel. I went to see a friend in Tarntawan and had to leave my ID with security. In Malaysia, I just walk past reception, but locals will be stopped and have to tell them where they want to go, reception will call the room, and visitor will have to leave ID at reception. Even if they are repeat visitors to the same room.
 
The new wing (house between parking and pool) has no reception, you can bring back whomever you want, nobody will stop you. The rooms have different sizes and layouts. A friend stayed there several times and I visited him several times, he prefers the room with the balcony that overlooks the parking. Usually front door and back door (to the pool) are closed (and locked), so I either have to go to reception (they will call him and send staff with key card to open door for me) or I call him and he throws me the key from balcony. But when you come back with a boy, you won't have this problem.
 
And there is yet another building, north of the pool, which operates similar to the house between pool and parking. But to go there you have to parade through the open air part of the restaurant and along the pool; the gate which allows direct access from parking is closed most of the time.

just walk like you own the place but since you need to pick up key from reception usually at that point they will ask your guest for ID.
 
Some hotels are pretty strict and some quite lax, although if you longer time resident often they skip this request.
 
When he will be leaving most likely they will call you to check if everything is OK, I usually walk with boy downstairs to prevent boys form any embarrassing comments  or questions.

Hi Vinapu. I haven't posted on this forum before - but I'm making my first trip to Thailand in March and I have been studying your reports like a guide! They are so detailed and helpful - I've learned a lot from them. Thanks for all the good work!

Go-go bars in Bangkok
 
Visited most of them, only missed are Super A, Be High and Fusion.
 
While last time star for me was Dreamboys, this time it was Screwboys and I credit this to Christian PFC who dragged me there  right after I arrived and we met. I saw boy I liked there and finished offing him 6 times, 5 of which were long time.
 
This is rare for me as I prefer massage boys over go-gos big time since they usually are older and have more meat on their bones  and this is type I'm hunting for. 
 
It looks that jeans are gone and boys in all bars visited other than Fresh Beach Boys are back to parading on the stage in underwear. For some reason  boys at Fresh Beach Boys were still in jeans at least before show, possibly because this is ground floor bar and if they were in jeans bar could entice more clients by keeping door wide open. Zeus went out of business during my trip but I managed to get boy from there before it happened.
 
All bars in soi Twilight, Jupiter and Tawan have shows, Golden Cock and Nature Boys don't and at Screwboys it varies so enquire locally if interested. Jupiter show is tame as always was with hardon sticking inside of underwear at times but all other shows  feature all usual  numbers with plenty of cock visible, always dressed in condom though. Sex shows are still absent although I'm not so sure what was going on at Fresh Beach Boys at end of my stay , some acrobatics under the veil in dimly lit bar were very promising. So it's only matter of time when acrobatics will start again. At Tawan shows ends with J/O contest as long as patrons keep  feeding tips into glass
 
As for quality of boys in  bars of soi Twilight I still think Dreamboys have the best selection with all others more or less the same with somebody for everyone and the same goes with Screwboys .
 
Jupiter are hunks only as always  and Tawan bodybuilders actual and aspiring, again as always.
Golden Cock and Nature Boys were disappointing when we were there with Christian but  still  at least one of boys was passable so no problem giving them a chance in a future.
 
As for drinks price is climbing steadily reaching 400 at Dreamboys and Tawan . Most other bars charging 350, Screwboys 300 and Nature Boys and Golden Cock half of that. Off fees are 400-500 and 650 in Dreamboys.
 
What I found new , now they quote expected tips more readily less than usual ; up to you ' answers but this is good and bad news, bad part being that some boys are quoting 2000 for short time and 3000 for long, boy from Dreamboys even told me that this is bar policy so make sure you polish your negotiating skills , still 1500 /short, 2500 / long seems to be a norm.
 
My advice to myself  would be to negotiate everything in advance in the bar to avoid future disputes and what is even worse, boy looking for ways to finish an appointment early, happened to me twice, no tragedy though.
 
Some boys are trying their luck clearly, Tawan boy wanted 3000 for 1 hr appointmnet, stand your ground or give up depending of how you like that boy. It must be said that all negotiations were in good nature and I did not have any bast moments in those 19 days.
 
Go-go in Pattaya
 
visited all go-go in Sunee plaza other than Good Boys against advice of everybody claiming that boys there are not my type and they were right, all twinks, some very nice but not my area of interest. Under age problem is cleaned out it seems but sleaze in the bars still present so be prepared, drinks 120-180.
 
In Boyztown missed only Vassa and Freeman but definitely best selection was in BoysBoysBoys with A-bomb, Toyboys and FunnyBoys trailing a bit behind. In every bar visited was at least one boy I'd take so no loser as far as I'm concerned. As for shows, one at Copa and Wild West Boys did not impress me , XBoys was much better and only one with full on sex including tip parade among us , voyeurs.
 
BoysBoysBoys show was by far the best and so was their selection and no wonder that out of 3 nights in PTY one axe murderer faced from there helped to warm my bed for 2 of them. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the best bar at the moment out of all I visited both in PTY and BKK this trip.
 
Do not miss their 9.p.m. outside show when boys are outside singing and flag waving for a 10 minutes or so.
 
Massages 
 
I love those, this is my reason to be there and had at least 2 a day. I see benefit in well being and massage boys are usully closer to my desired type,  older and muscly.
 
Visited all wellknown places and scores less popular , some in peripheral areas of BKK. Liked Pattaya places as well although had a bit of disappointment in Magnolia, still the best place there but something did not work between me and a boy this time.
 
Everywhere massage itself was at last good with quite a few of excellent. In every place you can and will get more, either because you will initiate intention or boy will do it first. It's up to you of how much of purchased time you want to devote to massage but if you interested in getting one I suggest do not be too fast as boy may skip on that part according to your wishes.
 
If you are shy type , don't be afraid , gentle scratch of boys knee at some point will be sufficient to signalize you want more and let him take a lead. Quite a few of them don't like to be derailed and want  to finish massage before better part starts, M at Senso even clearly told me when I will be able to tough him and it actually made a lot of sense.
 
As for top/ bottom problem , only in one place /Shape / question was asked right away so if that's important make sure you ask first.
Prices for 1 hr oil varies from 400 to as much as 800-900 depending of place, minimum tip start from 500 to 2000 for 2 hr. session at VClub and Prince. In some places tip depends of length of session in other is just uniform. The same goers with boy being dressed or not, my preference is when he starts dressed and I just wait for moment when he will not be.
 
Places vary from very basic  / Health / and in need of good scrub  /Arena, Uniman/ to classy and spotless /Prince, Senso, VClub/ but it needs to be stated strongly that ambiance has nothing to do with quality of both boys on offer and massage - Arena is still my # 1 place full of friendly hunks.
 
As for selection in every place you either pick up boy from line /Arena, Bangkok Massage, Bonny /  or behind the glass / Hero, VClub, Prince / and in many places  boys are invisible and you will chose from picture album / Baan Tewa , Shape/ or iPad / S52,Magnolia/. So adventure is there since  each place has something different than other.
 
I visited few places in far away areas of Bangkok and will do so in the future. Ivariably question arises if that is worth the trouble of travelling sometimes pretty far / Man101, Fundoshi / . Answer is yes and no.
 
Yes because you get out from traditional Silom/ Sukhumvit ghetto. Some of those places are in quite interesting areas of the city, prices are lower and so expected tips although cost of getting there must be taken into consideration. Some English was spoken everywhere  and I was welcomed in all places.
Some of them like Shape or Jay seem to be far away while in fact you can be there in 20-30 minutes from Silom thanks to BTS.
 
Only risk you are taking is that selection may be very limited. In most of those places with notable exception of VClub and Jay Spa number of boys on offer was 1-4. / Waternest, Fundoshi, S52, Shape, Man 101 /. May be I had just bad luck or arrived in wrong time as those are places catering to locals rather that tourists and their timing may be different than that of leisurely tourists. 
 
I had good luck that always I liked what I saw but somebody may be disappointed  that hunk seen on the website may not be actually there so either  take your chance and just go or call ahead and make sure he is there.
 
My best massages were in no particular order:
 
Tao from Banana
One from Screwboys / yes,  go-go boy /
Fay or Fi / spelling? / from Arena, 
M from Senso,
Art from Uniman
 
all of them using different techniques and working very fast which made for very intensive massage experience

The Intercontinental is great and I have been there at least 50 times over the years and love it. The adjacent Holiday Inn next door is also very nice and much less expensive.
 
The Renaissance is across the street and again very nice.  The JW Marriott is up the Soi on Soi 2 and very nice. I have never had an issue with anyone being brought back in any of those places.
 
If you are a pair of friends, consider some of the Executive Apartments like Marriott, Fraser Suites and the Ascott.  I have stayed at the first and the last and again, zero issues, great service and nice big apartments.

Meridien would certainly be a very convenient location for the bars of the suggestions. Perhaps another alternative would be to take a two bedroom service apartment.

JackR - I have stayed in the Lebua State Tower and was really disappointed. It is not the 5* experience you expect. It has a really hopeless entrance (not good for cabs) and is in an awkward location. With busy roads to cross. Rooms are satisfactory but nothing special.
 
My preferences would be Le Meridien (great location - next to SoinTwilight - fab rooms and no problem with joiners) or the Pullman. Both much more comfortable than Lebua which disappointed.
 
Dust Thani is another good 5* in good location and no joiner issues. Rooms were getting a bit faded but someone mentioned they had been refitted.
 
Hope that helps

Welcome to the forum,
 
It would be interested to see how such hotel treats guests, my guess would be they just turn blind eye as long as boy is dressed properly and fortunately almost all of them are, it's us farangs who are sloppy dressers in LOS.
 
One thing is sure - you will have a fun in BKK, wherever you stay

Looks like a great place to bring back a bar boy for an evening of fun.  No reason to be concerned about "guests" as they are probably use to high class hookers.

Hi All
I'm travelling to Bangkok for the very first time in March with a friend. I've been reading all the postings on this forum, including Vinapu's reports and they've all been so helpful. I can't wait to go! But I wanted to get someones opinion on hotels - we wanted to splash out on somewhere really nice - we are thinking of booking a twin room at Lebua State - does anyone have any experience of this hotel? - and if there would be any issues with bringing guests back? I couldn't see any postings on this place. Or would you recommend just getting one of those short time rooms when needed instead?
J
 

Hi All
I'm travelling to Bangkok for the very first time in March with a friend. I've been reading all the postings on this forum, including Vinapu's reports and they've all been so helpful. I can't wait to go! But I wanted to get someones opinion on hotels - we wanted to splash out on somewhere really nice - we are thinking of booking a twin room at Lebua State - does anyone have any experience of this hotel? - and if there would be any issues with bringing guests back? I couldn't see any postings on this place. Or would you recommend just getting one of those short time rooms when needed instead?
J
 

Hi Vinapu. I haven't posted on this forum before - but I'm making my first trip to Thailand in March and I have been studying your reports like a guide! They are so detailed and helpful - I've learned a lot from them. Thanks for all the good work!

Hi Vinapu. I haven't posted on this forum before - but I'm making my first trip to Thailand in March and I have been studying your reports like a guide! They are so detailed and helpful - I've learned a lot from them. Thanks for all the good work!

Just back from a weekend in Prague. Great time! Visited Temple on Thursday and Friday night. It seemed very quiet on Thursday night, but it was the week after pride, so we didn't stay long. Busier on Friday night. Couple of cute guys. Although some seemed pre-booked by customers who didn't arrive until later in the night? Saturday in Escape. Great time. Cute new boys and shows all night.

Just back from a weekend in Prague. Great time! Visited Temple on Thursday and Friday night. It seemed very quiet on Thursday night, but it was the week after pride, so we didn't stay long. Busier on Friday night. Couple of cute guys. Although some seemed pre-booked by customers who didn't arrive until later in the night? Saturday in Escape. Great time. Cute new boys and shows all night.