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Update (sort of)...I receive an electronic copy of Thai Puan magazine. The gay guide that's found in the clubs and bars. The issue I received this morning has a full page advert for My Hero "Exclusive Bangkok Men's Spa". Address is given as 65 Sukhumvit Soi 11. There is a phone number 063-869-4999 / 088-488-4848. The ad shows a very nice architect type rendering of the building with some photos of rooms (real or imagined, can't tell). I never got to the old Hero before it closed, but thought given all the bak and forth that I'd pass this sighting along. Someone has enough money for a full page ad.
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Just received an electronic copy of ThaiPuan (the freebie giveaway pocket magazine that's in the bars) which has an Editor's Note saying "Other sad news, Lukas is no longer the manger at the Tarntawan Place Hotel. The hotel is under new management and we are unsure how they wish to continue running the place. Loosing Lukas is a big blow to the community...the good news is Dick's cafes in both Bangkok and Jomtien will continue as before under his careful watch."
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Is there any xxx show at soi twilight?
Most places have one show. Entertainment ban is to be lifted next week (or so the word goes)...maybe more then. Forum regulars will update, I'm sure.
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Ah...welcome back...thanks for the words and the photos.
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Art Massage is to the left of the Tarntawan driveway, where the ice cream parlor used to be. I has a massage there in mid_September and would agree 100% with the Naserrich's description.
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I've done both, mostly it depends how dressed I am at the conclusion of the off.
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I had a massage at The Prince in early September and when I returned to Bangkok two weeks ago I went back to see if what had been a great experience could be duplicated. I took a taxi from Surawong arriving around 3pm. 18 boys on display. I was the sole customer. I went with the Vinapu rule and chose the boy who smiled, the mamasan said my choice was skilled in everything. I figure that means some things. Selected a 2 hour scrub and cream in the jacuzzi room (again the previous time had been in a jacuzzi room and I had good memories).
Boy from northernThailand/Myanmar had a swimmer's body and after undressing me, stripped down to the suit he was born in...good to very good massage. Some fun playtime in the jacuzzi and a full range of afters (asa well as some "durings").
After the massage was over he walked me back to a now overflowing waiting room! Must have been as many in the waiting area as there were boys behind the glass wall. All were Chinese. My masseur brought me the usual fruity drink and let me know a taxi had been called. While sitting there, I noticed that none of the boys were promenading for the Chinese who were having drinks and maybe looking at the boys playing pool or working out. The mamasan was helping at the bar. When my taxi came, I went outside and passed a large passenger van. Later, I talked with Ya, from Siamroads, mentioning this and he suggested that The Prince was an afternoon tour stop for some Chinese, one or two in the party might be interested in a massage, the rest waited and had drinks which good business for the bar. Decided to mention this as well as complimenting the massage experience.
- TMax, 1moRussian, vinapu and 3 others
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Had dinner at Roadhouse BBQ with three friends, we were the only customers when we arrived, while we were there, and no one was coming in when we left after an hour. Alcohol was served (to me) the Thais in the group declined alcohol. I walked along Suriwong and went to Soi Twilight on the 19th. Mourning black is the prevalent color in a shirt, a dress, or a black ribbon worn on a white shirt. This was a Wednesday, not too crowded and foot traffic flowed fairly well. Soi Twilight seemed like an airless balloon, the touts were really pushing to get folks into the shows...not many takers. Not much foot traffic. The Patpong night market was active but when I backed away from a price, the vendor cut the cost without argument. Some of the boys told me that shows had few attending and fewer offs. One decided to just go home until the mourning period was over (30 days?).
- TMax, paulsf, 1moRussian and 1 other
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Two brothers massage is still open. The authorities "stopped by" recently and the boy's disappeared which closed the massage. I learned about this as I was being "aftered" upstairs and once we finished came downstairs to find an empty bar.
Operation up and running two days later when I went back.
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I left Bangkok the day before the King's passing was announced. I'm in Laos and the Thai television channels have been wall to wall mourning.
Numazu the mourning period is 30 days for things in general. The government wears back for a year. Then grand funeral. Suggest if you pause posting only for 30 day period. That will bring some relief post US election.
Thanks for the mention of our meet up in your report.
I go back to Bangkok for two nights as of Tuesday...then home. I will also follow your lead and refrain for a month from posting a trip report guaranteed to be less interesting than yours.
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Jupiter short time last week was 2000. Long time was negotiable
I don't ask to take selfies but find I'm included in the boy's selfie which he/they send to me.
Enjoy your experience
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Thanks ggobkk for your report
Have you noticed if still the same policy when bringing a guest back so far as security goes and do they appear to be still doing the breakfast 24/7 - I am due back in a couple of weeks and would be good to know?
Thanks
Same policy regarding guests. Food and beverage 6am to 10pm. Only. So, at least at the moment 24/7 breakfast a thing of the past.
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Big news item in middle of this post.
OK....I arrived around midnight last night (October 5). As has been reported here the old website is out of service aka "dead". I book via Agoda and requested a car at airport as I knew I had 30 hours of airports and planes to survive before BKK. Couldn't get a confirmation about the car. I IM'd YA of siamroads who called the hotel to get the car confirmed. He was gracious enough not to mention he could have arranged a pick up for me.
Car was not the usual minivan, driver used lots of side roads to avoid the tolls but drove skillfully. And made it a quick trip.
At hotel, evening bellman gone. Two security staff. One familiar from previous trips. Late night desk staff of two both seen on previous visits. Seems that the customer data base disappeared with the changeover. The staff recognized me but there was no history file.
Once in room, noticed it looked the same. Realized there was no welcoming drink. Read posting in elevator that food and beverage service stopped at 10pm.
This morning went down for breakfast. Morning security guard remains the same as for past couple of years. 3 customers Having breakfast. Two new faces at desk. Discuss my next week one night stay. Told Agoda hadn't sent it to them yet. I showed a copy and they noted the room I preferred and offered to move me to it today. I agreed as it has the best internet being next to the router.
I asked after Lukas and was told he is no longer associated with the hotel. REPEAT. Lukas no longer part of Tarntawan.
No Manager's cocktail party anymore. Apparently, with no website bookings are way down. Some staff gone but not sure if it's related to the occupancy rate. One or two guests per floor means fewer housekeeps. Security guards double as bellmen.
If I notice anything else I'll post again. I will note that everyone is trying very hard to be helpful.
Vinapu - I think your night desk clerk is one of the surviving staff.
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It's the end of the Chinese Martyr's/National Day festival and (though I don't think it has much to do with the Dream Boys capacity control - it's the start of the Jewish New Year.
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Your reports are making me addictive to checking forum few times a day and my guess will be , I'm not alone here
You are not alone....
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Golden Cock would love to entertain the afternoon visitor...
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I once posted that you were pacing your stories to enhance the suspense.
Now that I just finished crafting postings about my recent visit to Bangkok I have an increased appreciation for the time and skillful effort you put into your descriptions; setting both a tone and a mood that puts the reader into your shoes, bars, tuk tuks, and voyeuristically your beds. The quality of your writing is both smile inducing and compelling.
Take your time in bringing the story along its path.
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Friday! Last day in Bangkok! I’m returning to Beijing tomorrow, meet up with friends there, and back to the US Monday morning.
Waking up sometime after 8am, which is late for me but way too early for T, I adjourn to the other room to read the iPad newspapers, make some tea, chill out with the air conditioning, clean myself up and shave, go out and hit the ATM.
Back, T emerges naked looking tousled and rubbing his eyes. Hot. We talk and Google translate back and forth. Go down to the lobby dining area and have a breakfast, he has the cook put something together that has extra shrimp and rice. Me…and omelet…boring.
I remind T that I’ll be gone this time tomorrow. He says he know that…this leads to a lot of conversation between us. We’ve known each other for a bit more than a year and a half. As one might read in the subtext to these reports, the initial excitement of our first time together is no longer there. Clearly we care about one another and there is some trust between us. Numazu mentions in his reports that he doesn’t worry about his valuables with companions he knows. This is the case here. T can access my iPad and phone without my help, I leave my wallet out. Etc.
So we talk, it’s mostly about the choices he has to make. He’d prefer not to / doesn’t want to go back to being a go-go boy. Even if that was the only choice, where he worked, Hot Male, has a ban on non-Thai’s. He can go back to Vietnam as his former co-worker J will be doing tomorrow. But work there is seasonal and physical (my brain goes to: “being a go-go boy is physical”), and work at home is constricted to the village and the fields.
We talk a bit about his only having finished 2nd year of what would be high school in the US. He tells me that he doesn’t know how to use a computer so doesn’t know how to use email. This sidetracks us as I talk about his phone is a computer and he knows how to use his phone (and mine).
I learn about his parents and brother. T’s father is almost 40 years older than T and he has the Asian sensibility about family. I tell him I understand, that I was working and enjoying my work on the east coast of the US, when my parents had strokes within a few months of one another, and I picked-up and moved west. I note that it turned out ok for me and would for him (perpetual optimist that I am).
The conversation winds down, with no specific decisions made. Other than I committed to paying for his travel from Vietnam to Bangkok and to give him enough to go back if that’s what he decided. He said he didn’t know but would stay in Bangkok until at least Monday to see if he could find work.
Looking at the clock, I saw that my thought of yesterday to go to Prince for a massage was looking to be a non-starter. I asked T what he wanted to do and instead of getting the usual Up To You, he said he wanted to give me a bath, shave my hairy back (he’s never cared for that), and then give me a massage and take me to bed. This was way more direct that he has ever been and I let him take over.
I wrote the summary in the paragraph above. No condensed version here and no expanded version here. Suffice it to say, two hours later I was in a good space. We both slept a bit before taking a shower to clean up.
It was now early evening and we’d agreed to meet up with S at the Hot Male bar to wish J well and give him a top notch sendoff. I asked T to Line P and let him know that I’d off him to he could join the sendoff.
We went out looking for a place to have a good/great meal before meeting up at Hot Male bar. We headed out without a dining destination in mind, went toward Mango Tree and saw Cola which is on the corner across from Mango Tree. It’s Chinese and elaborately designed and decorated with a general dining room on the ground floor and private party rooms on the 2nd. We looked at the picture menu and decided to give it a try.
What wasn’t clear from the picture menu is that Cola is a hot pot restaurant where guests mainly cook the food at the tables. The center of the table has a heating element that warms the broth. We each ordered what appealed to use and heaping mounds of food kept appearing needing to be warmed and semi-boiled. We got carry out for about 60%of what we ordered, which T later told me got him through the weekend after I left.
After dropping the carry out off in the room, we walked around, checked out the nigh market, and got to Hot Male bar just before 9. I gave T baht to go and off P from Fresh Boys. I had discussed this earlier and said, it would be less expensive if he did the ”offing” than if I went in to the club and bought a mamasan drink. He thought this new experience of being the “off-er” would be a charge.
As he left to do his duty, S arrived and he and I talked about departures. He being the king of the hill in HM bar, our conversation was interrupted multiple times by his fan club. One can easily comprehend his popularity as his personality is warm and he is gregarious. T rejoined with P and another friend from Vietnam known to P and T. I bought drinks for them, P thanked me for the off, J arrived and conversation, laughter, and lots of toasts to departures took place.
S had been kind enough to introduce me to other forum members who stopped by. He told me that after T and I left for Jupiter last night, that N had come by with a beautiful boy in tow and might be back tonight. Sure enough he was, N (and I promise this is the last letter of the alphabet that I will use this trip report) is a Hemingway-esque figure to me. His reports have helped my travel better and intrigue me and help me expand my horizons. His boy was/is gorgeous and very comfortable with introducing himself and being publicly affectionate with N.
So much going on, a gaggle of Vietnam guys sharing go-go way stories and memories with J, S being the pater familias, N asking how I liked Jupiter’s show, true guys’ night out. Then N and friend left for show time, P gave me a big hug and kiss and said he had to go back to Fresh Boys for his show (S told me P gets paid more when he dances and appears in the show), I give P 1,000 baht as a going away thanks (sort of an “off without benefits” tip). T and I had discussed earlier before we got to HM bar that we wanted to make sure J and S had time together. So around 11 we headed out to the hotel. I had to be up by 4am to catch my plane so I packed, T made sure I was showered (I have never had so many showers in a 4-day span as I did this week). He cleaned up in the bathroom and “re-joined” me in bed.
And, other than the per-dawn getting to the airport rushing around, and the good-byes, which I’m leaving out of the narrative, that was my 5 days in Bangkok.
My next trip will be to Laos in early October. If anything there in interesting, I’ll report (maybe).
- traveller123, Alexx, paulsf and 4 others
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Bangkok base camp
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A preface to begin…
My last report covered a short 5 day visit to both Pattaya and Bangkok at the beginning of September. I returned to Bangkok in early October and it was the base camp as I went north to Chiang Mai for several days, back to Bangkok for a night, then to Laos (Vientiane and Luang Prabang) for a week, before heading back to Bangkok for two night and then home to California.
Before getting too far along in the trip(s) report, I read over my September jottings and found this at the end of it:
So much going on, a gaggle of Vietnam guys sharing go-go way stories and memories with J, S being the pater familias, N asking how I liked Jupiter’s show, true guys’ night out. Then N and friend left for show time, P gave me a big hug and kiss and said he had to go back to Fresh Boys for his show (S told me P gets paid more when he dances and appears in the show), I give P 1,000 baht as a going away thanks (sort of an “off without benefits” tip). T and I had discussed earlier before we got to HM bar that we wanted to make sure J and S had time together. So around 11 we headed out to the hotel. I had to be up by 4am to catch my plane so I packed, T made sure I was showered (I have never had so many showers in a 4-day span as I did this week). He cleaned up in the bathroom and “re-joined” me in bed.
OMG what a confusing jumble. Too much code! J, S, N, P, HM, and T. Thanks, Numazu, for identifying yourself as “N” and making me realize this is a trip report not a quadratic equation (which I could no longer solve, if I even remembered how).
I put off writing when I returned and procrastinated; first because I was jet lagged (still am slightly); second, waiting on Numazu’s reports; and, finally, asking myself if I really had anything to say and could do it without code.
I've made some forum postings, one on Prince was fairly detailed, another on the Tarntawan was also involved and then had lots of follow up reply and comment postings. Then Ya, of Siam Roads, who was my guide in Chiang Mai and Laos asked for feedback that if favorable he could use on the tour company website. (He must have liked them as I’ve found my words posted on two other sites).
So, the plan is to write a report on the arrival nights in Bangkok and the time in Chiang Mai. Then extend the reporting to touch on the one night back in Bangkok which went as wrong as possible, comment on Laos (few boys/no boys), and the pit stop in Bangkok on my way home.
Installment #1 later today.