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I'll be on a flight arriving at Swampy a little after 10pm, which means I probably won't get to my hotel until a little after midnight.
What are my options?
Does anyone go to Silom Soi 2 on Thursdays?
What about Banana Bar on Soi 4? I've heard it turns into a nightclub after midnight. Does anyone have any intelligence on how happening this place might be late on a Thursday night?
What about Silom Soi 6? Last time I was in Bangkok, I was with a couple of young Thai friends in an after-hours nightclub far from Silom. When we left, one of them said he was going to Silom Soi 6 to keep on partying. I had the impression there was some kind of after-hours club there. Does anyone know what this might be, or even if Soi 6 is happening late on a Thursday night?
Do I have any other options? I assume the go-go bars wil be closing around the time I roll into the gayborhood, but I'd hate to waste a night, even a half a night, in Bangkok.
Thank you very much for any advice anyone might have.
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9 hours ago, 18past19 said:…… would you rather stay in BKK or Pattaya?
I have never envisioned to visit Thailand during their songkran for what i heard about most boys usually going back their home. And also i wanted to avoid the crowds.
But i am curious where you would stay BKK versus Pattaya if you happen to be in thailand during songkran.
Songkran without a doubt is the best time of year to visit Bangkok. Large swathes of the city, like Silom Road, turn into all-out battlegrounds. One day many years back, when I couldn't wait for my Thai friends to wake up by noon, I ventured off on my own, making it well past the front lines, near Soi 4, and infiltrated the enemy's camp when I had to conclude that like my Thai friends, the enemy, too, was apparently still sleeping in. It was then that I spotted three enemy scouts -- three well-armed policemen. So I snuck up on their flank and started shooting. I caught the closest one to me by surprise and drenched him. You can't imagine my satisfaction, the sense of euphoria. But it must have been humiliating for someone trained to handle weapons and street combat. Or so I thought. Unfortunately my approach was not as stealthy as I had hoped, and all three officers, even the one who should be in a rage that he had just been shot by a foreign tourist, rounded on me, guns pointed at my chest. Only the first one began shooting, however. The other two ran to my flanks and within a second I was triangulated. When all three of them started shooting, I was the one who got drenched. I had to wave the white flag.
So the moral of this story is: Do not shoot Thai police officers with your high-powered urban assault waterguns. They are not as sleepy as they look. In fact, they are likely decoying you, ready to pounce with their years of street combat training. And with waterguns filled with icy water.
Actually, the moral of this story is do go to Bangkok during Songkran. Go into debt if you have to. You'll have more fun and excitement than you've had since your first trip to Disneyland. Or maybe even Babylon. When else can you assault police officers with a watergun and have them play wargames with you? It was such a good laugh.
As for the natives leaving town during Songkran, in recent years that is more the exception than the rule. Bangkok becomes such a huge festival zone during Songkran that young Thais from all over the country migrate to the big, wonderful metropolis to join the wargames.
But there's a lot more going on than aggressive watergun play. Some Thais -- and foreigners -- prefer carrying small buckets of water that they mix with colored chalk, walking up to strangers they think are cute, gently caressing some of the chalky mixture onto the faces of their objects of desire and saying, "Happy Songkran ka." So there's a lot of flirting going on in the streets, too.
If you dig EDM festivals, the S2o Festival is one of the best in the world. Tiesto will be on hand this year. If I remember correctly, it opens at 4 in the afternoon and keeps going until midnight. This attracts young and old tourists from around the world. Definitely not a gay event ... but so much eye candy! It's delicious. You can check it out here: https://www.s2ofestival.com/
Please do not sneak flasks of tequila into the event as I don't want them to be on the lookout when I show up with mine.
At night, there is the SK party, a three-night circuit event that is much bigger and more extravagant than the massive White Party, which takes place in a smaller venue during New Year's. Again, lots of lickable eye candy here.
As for the fun on Silom Sois 4 and 2, these zones are packed much fuller than on any other weekend of the year (except maybe New Year's). When Soi Twilight was still going, that street was a party all day and all night, so I imagine there will be at least a little activity in gay Patpong, if that's your kind of thing. And with all the gay tourists in town, the apps will be a smorgasbord of finely toned Asian asses, medium-size dicks and ripped abs.
The downside to traveling to Bangkok during Songkran is it's expensive. However, you can slightly lower your hotel bill by booking through the gcircuit site https://www.gcircuit.com/hosthotels.php -- you don't have to have tickets to the actual event to book a hotel through their site. I've done it before.
Or maybe ask for a frequent-guest discount at your favorite inn. I've had success begging for lower rates.
I've also had success waiting until the last minute to book my flight, then pouncing when Thai Airways lowers its fares. Not sure if that's gonna happen this year as a lot of us have been waiting three years to finally get back at and ambush Bangkok's well-trained and disciplined police force. I'm gonna bring bigger and drunker friends, buy a bigger gun and fill it with icier ammo. Just you wait, coppers!
Also, plan to stay for at least two weeks because when Songkran ends in Bangkok, sometime around April 15, then everybody hightails it to Pattaya, where the wargames continue until April 19. The watergun wars there are even more fun than along Silom as the baht buses, everyone in them, motorcycle taxis -- even arriving tourists and their suitcases -- are fair game.
OK, everybody, fallout and reassemble at the foot of Silom at 1400 hours on April 13. If you're early, be wary of the cops who only seem to be minding their own business.
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20 hours ago, Tartegogo said:
Home massage and Kmanspa have managers who speak decent English and will give excellent recommendations
Any advice on when might be the best time to visit these places? Do they have a lot of massage therapists ready to handle walk-in customers in the afternoon, in the evening after work or late at night when inebriated potential customers decide to make good on that potential? Or maybe most of their customers come by on Saturdays and Sundays?
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15 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:
What kind of music does the DJ play?
Awesome that you thought to ask some questions, and got right to the point! With the backdrop in that first photo of the stage I would have guessed the DJs play Goa trance.
I'll try to take a post-1 a.m. peek inside the place later this month and see if it's any fun. Actually, I'm looking forward to doing just that!
Judging from the layout and all the bottle prices listed on the menu, I'd say the place is trying mimic the N.A.B. business model of drawing groups of young people -- maybe bar boys, maybe bar girls, maybe a smattering of each -- whose bars have closed but want a fun place to keep on drinking. To excess.
Quite a change as I believe that premises used to house a piano bar.
Now I have a question for board members: Has anyone actually stayed in a BoyzTown hotel recently? The last time I stayed at The Ambiance I swore I'd never stay in BoyzTown again as an outdoor bar on that soi would turn itself into a karaoke joint every night and attract some customers who screeched at the top of their lungs until the sun came up. It was torture.
Or maybe some board members have some new hotel recommendations?
I stayed at Classroom in November but left after one night because of all the street noise -- and because of pillows that even Fred Flinstone would have found too hard. The manager understood and was kind enough to give me a refund for the nights I did not stay. She also said I could have called in the middle of the night and requested softer pillows. From the Classroom I went to the Avani Pattaya Resort, but that was way too expensive. So I'm open to new suggestions.
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2 hours ago, billyhouston said:
I'm not convinced by the methodology but
Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria or Thailand ... Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria or Thailand ... hmmm ... where do I want take my gay hedonistic self on my next holiday binge?
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It sounds like this year's WPBKK was a huge success. I just received an email from the organizers:
THANK YOU each and everyone of you for being a part of White Party Bangkok Presents Electric Sea this past weekend and for your continued support after the 3-year hiatus.
A massive thanks to everyone who made White Party Bangkok possible: DJs, artists, dancers, costume designers, makeup artists, bar and security staff.
Our production team, made up of a group of crazy people who do not understand the meaning of 'impossible', they are the beating heart of WPBKK and some of the most creative minds Thailand has to offer. They worked tirelessly these past few months to make #WPBKK2023 one of the most ambitious productions in circuit history.
Last but not least, THANK YOU to all the attendees, both the new faces who joined us for the first time and the veterans who brought incredible energy to every party. More than 20,000 people from over 50 countries attended this year's festival, making it one of the world's largest LGBTQ+ gatherings. It was truly the global family reunion we deserve. #WPBKK2023 would not be possible without each of you.
Did anyone here go by any chance?Here's a photo from that same email:
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It sounds like your friend might be asking for bars where he can meet other gay men, in which case Silom Sois 2 and 4 are by far his best options. But if he just wants a place to drink with his gay companions, he can go anywhere in Bangkok. The whole city really is gay-friendly, as others have already said in this thread. To find new places, I like rummaging through the online reviews at BK Magazine. My boyfriend and I have found a lot of great places all over the city this way and we've always been warmly welcomed wherever we go.
So ... I highly recommend Mezcal Bar just off Sathorn, a little behind the W Hotel, even though I've never been there. It has a great writeup:
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21 hours ago, reader said:
What surprised me was how locals were eating fried chicken and drinking beer at 7 in the morning.
The fried chicken for breakfast thing is out of the ordinary for Japanese, but drinking beer at 7am while starting a vacation is not. Still, I'm always surprised by this behavior whenever I start a trip in Japan on a long-haul bus.
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On 1/3/2023 at 9:34 AM, TotallyOz said:
I met a lad I really liked on OnlyFans
Thank you for warming my heart with this story. It made me so glad that someone gave a newfound friend who might not be so rich a business-class experience -- and an American holiday experience. I want to see the Hollywood movie of your trip. But if I may ask one question: How did you chat up your friend? Directly on OnlyFans? Did you find him on another social media platform?
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On 12/16/2022 at 12:05 AM, vinapu said:
Here some pictures
This 56 place looks really nice, especially for the price. I'm seeing $32 a night on Tripadvisor for three nights, including a Friday and Saturday, in mid-Feb. Will definitely bookmark.
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I loved Thaniya Fitness. Also known as Clark Hatch. The Tarntawan Hotel used to give coupons to its guests so they could use the pool and gym there. Then Tarntawan started charging 300 baht per coupon, which I still thought was a good deal. There would be very few other people using the gym equipment, and no one else using the glorious pool. I hope that at some time in the future the place reopens.
But @Lucasgi might want to ask the front desk of the Raya, maybe hotel management already has a deal with another facility for pool and/or gym use.
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11 hours ago, vinapu said:
Hurrah ! so it means it's still will be possible to get to and from Don Muang by train.
I'll have to make a mental note that this option is still alive. I once boarded a train bound for Don Muang from Hua Lamphong. It was back in the 1990s, and the rickety ride was a wonderful part of my overall Bangkok experience. Fast-forward to right before the pandemic, and a lot of the budget flights I was booking to Thailand were landing at Don Muang. While they no longer are, I'm sure once tourist traffic returns to normal levels all the budget flights that are now landing at Swampy will be rerouted to the old airport.
It's be nice to take a rickety train into the big burg.
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2 hours ago, vinapu said:
in my opinion your way of thinking is correct in both paragraphs above.
At end of day it's up to you to assess deal as good for you and up to boy to assess it as good for him.
make sure he enjoys all that partying in gay nighlife venues as he will have invisible mark on his forehead " I'm whore hired by that farang". Clear it with him up front. the same with fancy restaurants and other places. Some boys may like it , others not that much. How I know ? Because one of my guys once told me that in plain language only replacing word 'whore' with 'bar boy'.
Other thing you should mind is expenses. Guy may be thrilled you treat him to say 2186 baht dinner, other may think or even tell you " that was waste , we could have dinner for 1/3 of it and 2/3 you saved we could split in half".
Third issue to consider is what my maternal grandmother described as 'poor people can't afford cheap things " . If your boy will feel he was underpaid he may be pressing you for extra bonus at end and / or some gifts every time you pass by fancy mall or store. So hold to your offer firm, been there done that, last time as recently as 5 weeks ago.
Thank you. You always bring really good advice to this forum.
BTW, I don't do fancy restaurants, only those in and around Soi 4, and maybe some street food stalls. My Thai friends and I, however, do enjoy room service dinners around 5 in the morning, after we've done our partying and bedroom gymnastics, and before we crawl back into bed and go to sleep. These dinners are always a highlight, a chance to go over all the things we did that day and look forward to tomorrow.
My Thai friends also seem to enjoy ordering drinks and maybe some food around the pool, though I'm rarely around to partake. I'm usually at a high-end coffee shop, the kind I've learned to go to by myself so as not to make anyone uncomfortable. So it works out. My friend can relax by the pool and feel like a tourist, and I can sip some high-end coffee made with Thailand-grown beans and feel like a tourist.
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I might have something to add to this topic. I spent a little bit of time in all three bars one night in late November, then after determining that Dream Boys was not for me, I went back to Fresh Boys and Hot Male one night in early December.
Dream Boys seemed to have a good number of customers that first night, though a poor selection of not-really dancers. The other two bars had few customers.
I didn't like that the drinks were painfully expensive and that the shows seemed to drag on forever. I was there to check out and maybe chat with any cute go-go dancers. Watching the shows was like being put on hold by my bank's customer service department. The waits always seem to be interminable. When I'm on the phone, I often get frustrated and hang up. When I'm waiting for the go-go dancers to retake the stage, I often give up, pay for my drink and leave.
Dream Boys, with its complete lack of twinks, is definitely not for me. But it seems to draw the biggest crowds.
Its customers seem to go specifically for the shows.
Anyway, several days later, I managed to sneak into Fresh Boys about 10 minutes before one of its interminable shows began and called over two of the almost twink-like guys to have drinks with me. They were fun to chat with but no chemistry developed so I decided not to ask one or the other if he'd like to go back to my hotel. I wonder if some energy might have developed if we didn't have to pay attention to a show that all of us were only pretending to enjoy?
This time, the bar had many customers, and the manager seemed to be injecting a lot of fun and excitement into the night. I recommend it to tourists who like the kinds of shows these bars put on.
But for me, it was on to Hot Male, where several days earlier I had met someone I wanted to see again. The show had already begun, and the guy I had come to see was nowhere to be found. I sat down before realizing this, ordered a drink and kind of checked out the place. It, too, had a decent crowd, though smaller than the one at Fresh Boys. The guy I had shared a drink with earlier during my trip suddenly appeared, walked up to me and sat down. We quickly left for my hotel.
At the hotel, he immediately lost his clothes and got right down to business. Afterward, while I was still in the shower, he was calling his friends and was in a hurry to leave. He left as soon as I got out of the shower and could see him to the door.
Again, this was an expensive night, and it did not end with a euphoric experience. But I don't think high prices are the only barrier keeping gay customers away from these bars. They used to be gay go-go bars, and gay customers used to be able to go to them to meet cute young gay men. They used to seem like gay havens, much like straight go-go bars must seem like havens for their customers. But they have since morphed into something else. Now they are all about drag shows, big cock shows and other kinds of shows. These acts draw a lot of straight female customers and straight Asians who arrive in big groups. So if you're an old-timer looking for the kind of experience that used to be available at these places, you're likely to be disappointed by:
1) the high prices;
2) the seemingly never-ending shows;
3) a lot of straight customers who totally change the energy of these bars.
The energy used to be that of sexual expectation. Now it's more of a spectating experience, like going to watch a movie with friends. And these bars, at least the three on Patpong, no longer feel like havens. They feel like the gay customers have become part of the show for the straight customers to gawk at.
Not only do Grindr and Hornet offer cheaper, less uncomfortable alternatives, so does Silom Soi 2. It charges a 400-baht cover charge -- cheaper than a drink in a Patpong show bar -- and has retained its gay-haven ambience and its charged atmosphere.
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41 minutes ago, Gaybutton said:
That is extremely rare, but I have actually witnessed that sort of thing happen. Some may remember the Kaos go-go bar in Sunee Plaza - very long gone now. I became friendly with one of the dancers, June. A farang customer called him over to sit with him. The farang spent the next hour publicly groping him to the point it was obvious June was embarrassed and humiliated. Then the farang gave him a tip. 20 baht! I was furious and I had seen this farang before, so he knew damned well how much Thai money is worth. I went over and gave June 100 baht right in front of the farang and said I just gave him one fifth of what you should have given him. The farang was completely unfazed.
A few days later I was back in the bar. That farang was not there. June told me that same farang made an arrangement for June to come to his room one afternoon. June went. When he got there and knocked on the door, the farang opened the door and told June he already has a boy inside, then he shut the door in June's face - not even giving him baht bus fare.
Man, these poor guys have really miserable jobs.
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15 hours ago, vinapu said:
One of boys in Bangkok I know for years told me he is lucky if he has 5 offs per month
Comments like this are what convince me that offering 2,000 baht per day to a service provider in Pattaya to join me for five days of partying in Bangkok would be a good deal for both sides. Five days guaranteed income. Five days of free restaurant food and room service. Five days with a pool, pool deck, fitness center and other hotel amenities at your feet. Nightly partying at Bangkok's most happening gay nightlife venues.
Of course, said service provider might be thinking, "You want me to be seen in public with you at The White Party all weekend long and pretend I'm having fun, then go back to your hotel and try even harder to pretend I'm having fun while you take your sweet time fucking me, for only 10,000 baht?"
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3 minutes ago, vinapu said:
I think it's possible, all boils to negotiating. Longer time , lower per day fee may be. It may also depend on who initiated idea , if it was boy , we are in better negotiating position
Very helpful. Thank you!
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12 minutes ago, Boy69 said:
3000 Baht per day for 10 days trip
I guess it pays to be a butterfly
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6 hours ago, vinapu said:
4000
4,000 baht per day -- 16,000 baht in total, then -- sounds like a lot of money. Is it usually super expensive to bring a Pattaya guy to Bangkok? I thought giving someone four days worth of business would earn the buyer a discount. I'm thinking 2,000 baht a day plus meals, coffee, cover charges, drinks, room service and the like would be generous.
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I do really like playing the game in nightclubs, hitting on and flirting with cute twinks. But your advice is excellent. Thank you!