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4 hours ago, speedoo1 said:
Bogota:
But there is a sauna on the opposite/front side of Theatron club in Chapinero (I forgot it’s name, you need to look carefully when walking by to find it) with boys and massage (60 mil for the massage and presumably 50 mil for extras, but to be negotiated of course) -
Sounds like Dagoas Sauna on Clle59 but they no longer offer massage from what I have heard. They now advertise as a Sauna/Hostel if you want to hang out in Chapigay for the weekend.
Poseidon Sauna on Clle 57 offers "massage" services on certain days, but need to check ahead. As you noted, only St Moritz (Clle 65) and Bagoas Club (Clle 69 -- outside the village) regularly offer massage services in Bogota.
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On 8/4/2022 at 7:09 PM, 12is12 said:
Macdaddi, do u know if they were murdered in hotels?
From what I have read from the articles and from amigos in Colombia, there are some patterns. But the information is incomplete as many of the murder details are not public at this time. What I have noted is (not an expert in crime)
- only one victim was found in a hotel (where he worked, not in a guest room)
- most of the victims (again, publicly-shared) were in their own homes or apartments in Medellín
- the age range of the known, publicly-shared victims are in the age range of 25 - 34
However, I MUST INSIST that this should give NO ONE should be thinking that he-she-it is safe from being a potential victim here. There are patterns here HOWEVER the police and the Alcadia have released so few details (hence the journalism references) that one should be on 100% surveillance for potential threats. Full stop.
Please be careful about hookups in Medellín until this is resolved. Be cautious, ask friends or the reception to check in. Let people know your situation and be hyper vigilant about who you allow into your personal space.
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El Espectador is the largest newspaper in Medellín. Today they published an article that makes the case for 15 victims since the start of the year (Tweet below).
The government and police have not agreed to classify these homicides as hate crimes. There is a lot of attention surrounding these cases as the city fills up with visitors for the Feria de las flores, the most important event of the year in Medellín. The link to the article referenced in the Tweet is here https://www.elespectador.com/colombia/los-peligros-de-grindr-y-lo-que-dice-la-ciencia/
Unfortunately El Espectador remains largely a printed paper, so the website contains only an extract of the full article.
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1 hour ago, macdaddi said:
Sadly the murders remain unsolved. The count is now at 10 men and likely to climb. The deaths are remarkably similar in the state the bodies were found, and it is believed that one man escaped a deadly situation with the possible serial killer. The Medellin police are very reticent to call these serial murders publicly.
Chatting with a friend in Bogotá today and there was another victim last week. That puts the count at 11. Sadly this victim was known to several his close friends in Medellín.
Of note -- all of the men are believed to have "met" the killer through hookup Apps -- but there are inconsistencies as to which App was used. Food for thought.
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Sadly the murders remain unsolved. The count is now at 10 men and likely to climb. The deaths are remarkably similar in the state the bodies were found, and it is believed that one man escaped a deadly situation with the possible serial killer. The Medellin police are very reticent to call these serial murders publicly.
El Tiempo, the Colombian national newspaper is covering the story. However it is only available in Spanish. You can read one article per month or subscribe for 7000COP monthly (about $1.50USD currently).
Here is the most recent article that I could find from 5 June 2022. There was another suspected murder in early July and there is concern over the Feria de las flores next week with so many events and gatherings taking place across the city.
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8 hours ago, macdaddi said:
He states Robledo which is north of the Giradot stadium in Laureles.
Sorry, I read your question incorrectly.
The first massage was the Venezulan, Paulo who supposedly lives in Robledo barrio. The "second" massage, where he previously received a facial then a massage at a later date (near Parque Poblado) sounds suspiciously like Abybos Spa on Cra 43D which does advertise online but I have never seen them publish ads on Grindr FWIW.
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1 hour ago, Latbear4blk said:
Mmmmhh... I wonder whether a soteropolitano would agree with this statement.
Jajaja Carnival in Barranquilla is a BIG deal with the crowd at the main event reaching 3MM people. It is recognized generally as #2 after Carnival in Rio de Janeiro.
https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/barranquilla-carnival/
Events go on for a week in total with different parties (burritos in local slang) (including a gay dance party) finishing with the big parade. The entire city is jammed (similar to Rio) with partying crowds going all out. There are some folkloric elements to Baranquilla's carnival (like this guy below) and also nods to colonialism and slavery unique to this event.
The entire city sells out during Carnival so there are shuttle buses from Cartagena that run 24 hours during the major days. Nice way to visit then go home to get some rest and quiet
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Updated schedule of events
The Sillertero parade will come down Avenida del Rio to 59a where they will exit to enter the Giradot stadium.
The 2022 Flower Festival Itinerary
While the city is still working to get the final details published, there are a few things that we know for certain will be taking place. Check out the below schedule and events to know what’s coming up.
Confirmed Schedule:
Event Date Location Launch of the Flower Festival July 27 Aeroparque Juan Pablo II Obelisk Innaugural Concert August 5 Stadium Sector Ball de las Flores TBD Aeroparque Juan Pablo II Vasquez Building Flower Decorations August 5 – 15 Vásquez Building Music and Food in Pueblito Paisa TBD Pueblito Paisa Party in Parque de los Deseos TBD Parque de los Deseos Escenerio Colombia TBD Ciudad del Rio Todos Somos Uno TBD Teatro Pablo Tobón Uribe Parque de las Flores TBD Parque Juanes de la Paz Escenario Infantil TBD Parque Norte Bicycle Parade TBD The Whole City La Feria en Mi Corregimiento TBD Santa Elena, San Cristóbal, San Antonio de Prado, Altavista, San Sebastián de Palmitas Art Circuit of Medellín Barrio Colombia, Provenza, Perpetuo Socorro, Palacio Nacional Don Omar y Juan Luis Guerra The Kings Concert August 12 Anastasia Giradot Stadium Silletero Parade August 15 Avenida del Rio Feria de Flores Kick-Off Event
The Flower Festival will kick off with a concert featuring national artists as well as local food stalls. There will be multiple fairground activities and experiences for you to participate in, too.
Although the exact start time is still to be determined, the event is set for July 27th in the Aeroparque Juan Pablo II. With an expected turnout of 10,000 people, this is going to be one big event!
Concerts
If there’s one thing Colombians love, it’s dancing, and at the Flower Festival, opportunities to sway your hips abound.
The festival has a ton of different concerts, all featuring different genres and musical styles.
There are also a mix of paid and free concerts to attend, so if you’re not looking to shell out a bunch of money on tickets, you can still listen to some good jams.
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Bogotá has incredible history and many sites to see. To get acquainted with the city, I would suggest 4-5 days including a Saturday night so you can attend Theatron, the largest gay club in South America. Know that traveling north-south in Bogotá takes time as the roads are congested so plan you time by neighbourhood-section of the city so you do not spend all your time in traffic. Day trips to the Salt Cathedral in Zipiquira or the sacred Laguito de Guatavita (the origin of the El Dorado legend) are exceptional.
Medellín has a rich history (beyond what you see on Netflix) and is the centre of entertainment and film production, as well as being a rising tech centre (four universities) and tourism destination. I would suggest 3-5 days to get acquainted with the city and see some highlights. An overnight in Guatapé - El Peñol is also a great experience. Climb the rock to the summit and then explore the water on a boat tour before finishing up in Guatapé. There are tour buses continually between Medellin and El Peñol so you could make it a day trip.
I would also suggest a day trip to coffee country (eje cafetero) to see traditional farming villages, but it requires a flight to Manizales or Pereira. Salento is the most famous coffee town and you can see the wax palms that are native to Colombia. For a day trip to the coffee region from Medellín, you can travel to Amagá where there are a dozen local coffee fincas you can tour.
Cartagena is the gem of the Caribbean coast and is worth 2-3 days. Most find that they get bored of the tiny streets and plazas of Getsemani and El Centro (old city) so I would consider either a day trip to the beach clubs of Barú or Tierra Bomba. If you want to get completely away, take a few days in the Islas de San Bernardo where you have crystal clear warm water to swim in all day while you soak up the sun.
Other cities to consider. Calí is on the pacific coast and is the home of Salsa music. Caleños love to enjoy life and have a good time. Go salsa dancing in Parque de los perros (free lessons each night) or hang out in Versalles neighbourhood. Santa Marta is another beach town at the base of the Sierra Nevada mountain and the start of the trail to the Forgotten City. Barranquilla is a shipping port and home the second largest Carnival in Latin America and to Shaquira, for whom they erected the worst possible statue of her image. And I would also consider visiting Santa Crux de Mompox if you are a fan of Gabriel Garcia Marquez (hire a driver - the roads are brutal), or La Macarena to see the Amazon from the Colombian side and visit the famous Caño Cristales river and waterfalls.
Hope that helps get you started.
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16 hours ago, maump said:
what area of Medellin were you in for the second massage?
He states Robledo which is north of the Giradot stadium in Laureles.
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1 hour ago, Latbear4blk said:
In many places (even in the USA in Rentmen) it is not a rare practice that providers survey local markets by posting trips. Many boys in Colombia seem to be traveling providers, so they keep up advertisement in all of the cities they travel to and follow the demand.
Agreed. It is easy to overlook the fact that inter-city flights in Colombia are cheap and rarely longer than 1 hour. There is a core groupof escorts that move between cities regularly (Bogotá - Medellín - Cartagena - Cali - Bucaramanga - Pereira). So yeah, many of the ads from the pros are just fishing for the next best work location.
I know one poster who generally has 3 ad running concurrently in 3 cities (tattoos down torso to his thigh with the bubble butt) does exactly this technique. If you read each ad carefully, he is promoting "video" calls with the option to arrange something in person. There are other escorts mentioned here on this site that also take the same approach.
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7 hours ago, joizy said:
I was looking at Laureles Factory lofts. I see they have security. Did you have any problem bringing guys home?
No problem.. You will need to register the guest with the reception and return together when he exits (guest cannot leave until they confirm your wellbeing).
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I love Colombia during the holidays. The season begins with the Noche de las velitas on December 7 (a Wednesday this year) which may be my FAVOURITE Colombian tradition. Each city is lit by thousands of candles set out by individuals and families around their neighbourhood to "guide" and celebrate the Virgin Mary. Cartagena is particularly beautiful this evening, where families traditionally set out candles in the street, in courtyards and doorways, and in windows, and receive visitors while they are lit. Once the flames go out, people head to the street to meet up and enjoy the evening. Lots of impromptu gatherings and dancing in the streets. Each weekend following this holiday is treated as a holiday weekend, with gatherings, parties and events. So much to do and the cities are alive with so many out enjoying the season.
There are lots of Christmas lights and decorations everywhere without the hectic commercialism of the North America. But I love being in any Latin country for the holidays for this reason. But yes, la capital is particularly beautiful (and festive) during this time, with much to see and do. The light displays on Monserrate are a delight and the excited children running from display to display...it is the very best of latin culture.
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FYI Bank transfers as payment became very common in Colombia during the pandemic. There are many scort in Colombia that now accept this form of payment. The challenge is finding a payment service that can facilitate a transfer between a foreign country and a local account. In Colombia, I use Remitly to transfer funds directly to a recipient in seconds. PayPal also works, but takes more transaction time. Credit cards, while rare, can be accepted by some that have set up payment systems like Stripe. It has been 10 years since my last visit to Brasil so I won't speculare on their situaation.
Do consider any additional fees associated with the transfer and whether it is worth the additional effort to set up the recipients' details in your payment system. But once set up, these electronic funds transfer systems can work very well.
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Yes, the office of El Alcaldia includes a tourism office on the main floor. The Alcadia is located at the corner of San Juan (Calle 44) and Cra 54. The building is set back from the street, but the architecture is noticeable as the build has a slanted front. The main entrance is accessible via el Parque de libertad. Note: I did not ask, but no one offered service in English so be prepared to practice your español.
Their online list of tourism materials can be found at
The official tourism website of the Alcaldia is here (spanish only)
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Glad to see that you found a trainer you are happy with, congrats!
I guess no one has really talked about the free outdoor workout equipment found in parks across Medellin, but they are present all around the city, there being two large equipment set ups in Parque lineal and in Parque bailarina around El Poblado. Great option for a free workout when in town. just look for the distinctive yellow workout machines in green spaces.
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1 hour ago, floridarob said:
In Cuba....The difference, the government tracks these things....if a guy is flagged as being a "guest" very often in a hotel or casa particular, they are called in for questioning or picked up for being a prostitute.....
Agreed and thank you for pointing that difference out. My observations are strictly about Colombia, in many other spanish-speaking countries there are implications when your information is recorded.
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Quick update on this topic as the issue of how Colombia manages security and "guests" comes up a lot. I have been doing some investigation of the Medellin rental market and am seeing a LOT of listings (Vrbo, Booking.com) state their guest policy up front. It is usually the registration of the cédula and some state that they charge a small fee (30K COP is less than $10USD). So discovering where you can bring a guest is becoming easier in Medellín.
For local Colombians, providing their cédula information is completely normal and very, very few will take exception to being registered with an establishment as a guest. I would suggest any Colombian that does have an issue with this process is probably more trouble than it is worth.
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That is a lot of the major sites; I might add a few notes:
- Parque del Rio Medellin has spectacular lights at night.
- El Segundo Parque de Laureles has just been redesigned and re-opened and is a great spot for exploring night or day.
- The Estadio Giradot and the surrounding sports complexes (6 pools!) is a good afternoon stroll and popular workout spot.
- Parque Arvi is enormous and contains 5 distinct zones. I would recommend picking just one to hike as the trails can be fairly long (60-90 minute for most). You can download the app to your phone to get an interactive map as well.
- Cemetario de Belén is a nice option and more interesting architecturally
- During the Fiesta de las flores, it is traditional to visit the town of Santa Elena where many of the silleteros are designed. it is the heart of the flower industry in Medellin.
- Finally, you have not mentioned Guatapé and El Peñol which are 90 minutes away and worth the trip. I usually spend a long weekend there (you can rent a luxury finca for nothing) to chill out and hang with friends for a few days.
No shortage of things to do. Good luck with your planning.
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I only know Hotel 61 Prado because there is a custom bicycle shop around the corner. It looks nice enough and has an upper terrace (i think) which would give you great views of the city. However, keep in mind this neighbouhood is hilly. Everything will be up a hill or down a hill, which can be a turn off for some. The Prado barrio itself (and neighbouring La Mansion) were once the most prosperous neighbourhoods in the city, so they are filled with beautiful homes and lots of mature trees. Great for walking and exploring if you are good with hills.
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On 6/26/2022 at 3:10 PM, 12is12 said:
Is the triangle - Dorado 70, sillon, primer parque laureles - walkable at night ?
Yes, absolutely. La Setenta (Carrera 70) is the heartbeat of Laureles and is loaded with bars, restaurants, vendors and pretty much everything you expect in a Latin American city. At the end of the La Sententa is the Giradot stadium which the two major Medellin fútbol clubs call home. It is also the finishing spot for the parade of Silleteros during the Fiesta de las flores in August. You willl find that La Setenta is busy all of the time, but on weekends it is packed with people looking to get out and socialize. As a result, there is always a police presence on this street.
Walking in Laureles at night is very safe in the zone you described. Be certain to take a GPS enabled phone if you are walking down to Sillón Rojo from Laureles, as the street change from the circles (Circular) to the grid pattern below the Universidad Pontificía. You need to navigate across the Diagonal 66B to Avenida 33 which can be tricky as both are very busy traffic thoroughfares.
I have always understood Avenida 33 to be the north-south border between Laureles and Belén barrio. There are several gay bars along this avenue between Carrera 78 and 80 (Purple, Happy, and Rainbow). Sillón Rojo sits very close to the intersection of Avenida 33 and Carrera 65, however it is located on the south side of the Avenida 33 where all of the moto shops are located, not on the North side as shown on Google maps, so grab a picture from the web and maybe have them on WhatsApp just in case they need to send someone to find you (crazy, but I have seen them do this). There is also a special Uber service some nights for pick up and drop off at the club so maybe check ahead before you go.
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1 hour ago, Latbear4blk said:
In contrast, Periodistas is a quiet, calm, and I would even say magic urban corner. It is hard to believe that the rapid waters are not clean but coming from the sewer. The water does not smell, and with its noise covers the traffic and other regular city sounds. It is like stepping into an oasis of calmed nature amidst the above urban craziness. I did not see police, tourists, sex workers of any kind, or anyone older than 30, I was the only dinosaur there. No one was talking. I only saw here and there lonely men and women, or couples, from very young (probably 12 y.o.) to mid 30s, consuming some substances. You could also notice in the grass drugs parafernalia left overs, not enough to say that the place was a dump.
It was the perfect place to sit and smoke one of the empanados we had just bought.
This sounds more like Parque Duque where the Quebrada Santa Barbara river flows down underneath the neighbourhood (Medellin has hidden part of this river many years ago). The Parque Bicentenario is the park along this river in east Medellin which is a very popular place to chill out on the weekends
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47 minutes ago, 12is12 said:
I searched for this park on ggl maps, found something with that name on carrera 43, but in the photos there was no scene like the one u described.
Is there more than one ?
There is only one Parque del Periodista on Cra43. You can Google the history and how the park came to be. It is a sliver of a city street where people congregate to smoke up and consume other substances. There are four convenience stores along the park where you can purchase soda/beer/rum to consume. For extra you can get a cup with ice. There is a heavy police presence and you are completely safe while people watching.
The park is located at the intersection of Calle 53 (Giradot) and Carrera 43 (Maracaibo). There used to be the infamous Tabu Video cabanas across the road, but that was closed the last two times I was there, so I assume that it is gone forever.
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8 minutes ago, Latbear4blk said:
Do you know what, Mac? I would include the square in front of the cathedral as a touristic attraction DURING DAYLIGHT. If you are identifiable as a Gringo, I would go with a local companion. I found it fascinating.
It is a mix of
- countless policemen ignoring what was going on around,
- lumpen teens smelling glue,
- above 50s y.o. local clients cruising for a cheap fuck,
- several hot working class young men smoking weed and hustling,
- countless non attractive at all-ill looking-young men obvious and desperately offering themselves,
- beautiful very young she-males (I do not know what the politically correct term would be nowadays, in my times I would have said transvestites), admirably standing under the sun with their wigs and inches of make-up, and not sweating not even a micro-drop
- groups of White and Asian tourists walking with a guide, grabbing their purses and cameras, close to each other like an infantry platoon opening their way in zombie apocalypse
- Female prostitutes (unlike their male counterparts, they were at least average looking, I did not notice any female junkies), doing their way to avoid their Fabulous competition
- Regular local men and women passing by, walking fast
- Retired men walking around
- street vendors
In my opinion, it worths a visit. I specially enjoyed observing the interactions between the johns and the hustlers
I love it -- but it's all about perspective. I have pointed out here in other posts that the Parque Bolivar is a tourist attraction because a pivotal scene in Narcos was filmed there. So that is what brings in the tourists. But it is (as you pointed out) an open-use drug zone. Parque del periodistas is another. So if one is not comfortable in that environment then probably best to steer clear. There truthfully is nothing of note in this area, unless you must see all the churches in Medellin or need to update your fish tank (all of the aquarium shops are on Cra47 in this corner of La Candelaria -- no idea why)...
Just in case there is something here....
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#1 is Cyber Click Video Bar which was around the corner from Parque del periodista and has moved up to Parque Boston (almost directly north). Video cruising in Colombia is a whole other experience in some locations -- some offer bar services, strippers and event nights as well a video cabines.
#2 is a new Sauna to me...El Castillo in La Mansión barrio -- I will ask around but other members here may already know it.
#3 is Club 55 Sauna which I have written about here, however a more recent post from another member stated that there was no massage service anymore which was surprising (they usually hang by the bar next to the pool). This is the sauna where you can chill out by the large turco because it is next to the main staircase -- you will figure out quickly what is around and get to know some of the regulars.