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That garland is just symbolic. It's worth 1000B only and the receiver, I heard, gets to keep 750B out of it.

I noticed, like if Day 1, models A and B got the garland, then Day 2, models C and D got it, and so forth. Sometimes, models A got 2 garlands on Day 1, or he got another garland on Day 2. So my guess is that: the first one on Day 1 was staged by the bar. Any extra one on the same day or those on other days were actually from customers.

That garland is just symbolic. It's worth 1000B only and the receiver, I heard, gets to keep 750B out of it.

I noticed, like if Day 1, models A and B got the garland, then Day 2, models C and D got it, and so forth. Sometimes, models A got 2 garlands on Day 1, or he got another garland on Day 2. So my guess is that: the first one on Day 1 was staged by the bar. Any extra one on the same day or those on other days were actually from customers.

Day 9 started with shopping and walking around Pratunam area. Came across an electronics stall and saw a karaoke microphone with lights and bluetooth function. Bought it on the spot. After shopping back to hotel for rest.
At 9pm headed off to Hotmale bar. Aung is off today. Got my Chang draught beer from Alex and I presented him with the karaoke microphone. He was so shy when he received it. Thanked me so much. I asked him to turn it on but he kept saying he was shy to sing loudly in public. I took the chance to ask him what he was doing on his off day this Thursday. He said he would be busy moving. He is moving to a bigger apartment. I guess i will have to wait for another time to take him out for karaoke.
My 3rd night in a row at Hotmale beer bar. Great location to see the Dreamboys guys when they come out after their rotation on stage. They are topless and I can admire their muscled bodies. I even saw the tattooed guy who used to do the merman show at Classic and then moved to Lucky Boys for big cock show. Glad that he still had a job, presumably at Dreamboys big cock show. 
At 10pm I went into Hotmale gogo bar. 8 to 10 guys in jeans. Saw one handsome boy. No.5. I called him over immediately. Name is V. From Cambodia. Average body but very very handsome. 28 years old. Speaks good English. I bought him a drink. He ordered Leo beer. "Short Time 2000 ok?" I went straight to the point. Yes and he signalled to mamasan. Mamasans at Hotmale are not dressed formally unlike most other bars. They wear the same outfit as the waiters! V finished his bottle of beer before we left. "You like to drink?" I asked.
"Yes, you have beer in hotel?"
"No beer but I have whisky!" I replied and he was all smiles.
We walked across the hotel lobby and I waved cheerfully to the two ladies on duty at reception. I wonder what they think of me bringing back different guys every night.
In room, I asked V to shower while I poured and mixed two glasses of Jack Daniels. We drank and had our fun. V wasn't a kisser unfortunately but it was still an enjoyable session. After he left, I fell asleep. End of Day 9. Pretty ordinary day with no significant life-changing events.
 

Here are the two contestants representing Thailand and Vietnam in Mister National Universe 2022 just wrapped up in Thailand last week. I think the Thai contestant (who finished in top 10) has more of a Jupiter vibe, while the Vietnamese contest (who is the final winner) has more of a Moonlight vibe. So which one you would off and for how much? hehe

The times they are a changing. While walking this evening on Soi Thaniya, some of those ladies of the evening were casting big smiles at westerners.

To quote Wikipedia:
"Luk khrueng (Thai: ลูกครึ่ง, literally "half-child") is a colloquial Thai term referring to a person whose parents are of different nationalities".
In the specific example above, I thought the guy in question looked like he had a European father and a Thai mother, or vice versa.
 

Yes. Hotmale had two beer bars. One on top which is outside its Hotmale gogo bar. The Hotmale beer bar that is mentioned is the ond downstairs before the stairs. It is facing Dreamboys directly so it gives a good view of the Dreamboys guys when they come out after their rotation on stage. Waiters speak very good English and are nice to chat with.

Hot Male has two bars.  Upstairs right outside where the stage is.  Downstairs to the left of the stairs as you go up.   Directly opposite Dreamboys.    Ask any of the doormen at the bottom of the stairs, they will point you in right direction.    

Wow, did you write a book on this topic, or something?

The last time I was in Banana Room, there was this Farang customer, who came in quite late (30 min before the closing time) with his entourage of two teenage boys. He checked out the boys on rotation and later called one down. So I asked Mamasan when he sat next to me if the gentleman actually tried to find a third boy. He confirmed and said something along the line: great fun, you should do it
I observed the ménage à trois for some time, just out of curiosity. It seemed the first two boys do not really interact with each other, one of them smiled at me and I smiled back because he's cute. Does that count as flirting hehe?
Anyway,  I left before they did so didn't know if he really offed a third boy.

And they often inflate the tips they received from other customers as well (the anchor effect in psychology). Many MBs I met has his "A-customer-gave-me-5000-for-ST" story  and for Viet boys, who claim "top-only", the "A-customer-offered-10000-for-f*cking-me-but-I-said-no" story (hint: I'm waiting for a higher bidder)

It’s the bar street level across from Dreamboys.     Also the bar next to it. If your walking up the stairs to FreshBoys, it’s to the right. Is  Vietnamese owned.    It’s the one that has single pool table.   Great street views from there.    
 

Day 5
Dum was great  and earned 500 bonus in the morning. We went to Foodland  for a breakfast, staff seeing me so often with different guys started smiling knowingly and that grin will not leave their faces for next 2 weeks.
After that I went for a stroll to Lumpini park and from there by elevated walkway over canal to Benakiti park still under construction. At one time in future it will be proper park, now is lacking shade here and there but I liked  lake in the middle and running track around it. Easy to get to by public transport as it’s close to Queen Sirikit MRT station and it’s how I returned to Raya to pack and move to Baan Silom in soi 3.
Room was not ready so I left my suitcase and went again , now having proper location , to see business of former model X I met few times in Dec and have strong hope to be able to repeat feast this trip. It was quite a trip all the way to Samut Prakan, first by BTS to Samrong and then by taxi to the mall where his  business is located. He saw me from the distance , warm embraces , treated  me with his  product, in fact let me prepare it by myself behind the counter under his watchful eye.
I don’t remember who was first to suggest it but we agreed to meet in my room in the evening after shop will close as we need to discuss receipts he is using.
I mentioned before   one of our member is recommending certain masseur he managed to find when he was in BKK earlier and since I trust his judgement I gave it serious consideration , contacted guy in question who said will be free today but price he quoted me, 4000 for 2 hr massage in house freeze me. But member  told me he is worth it with exclamation mark so what choice I had. Asked guy , Phakin is his name to come .
I can see screams from economizing readers about that racket but if I trust somebody , I do. And yes , as promised it was worth it. Massage was very thorough and professional, at the same time entertaining as he turned out to be talkative with good English and  with personality comparable to that of certain Z , star of my 2019 trips some of my readers may recall and great sense of humor ‘if somebody fucked me I land in hospital sure”. Not only skills are great  but he is quite handsome and very, very well furnished. So after massage was over we had our share of fun or at least certainly I had.
I’m glad my cheap side did not prevail because by economizing I’d be losing chance of one of most memorable massage sessions in my 22 trips. Sorry guys I raised your blood pressure for paying that much for  massage  but believe me , I know what it means money well spent.
After he left I went to soi 4 to treat myself with another schnitzel at G’Bangkok. From there to Hot Male downstairs where paulsf was already there and reader who just arrived in Bangkok today after 2 years covid hiatus showed soon  .We had lots to catch up and we did although I was kind of distracted by one of their host , diminutive Laotian who seem to like me indeed. Surely he got  a drink and  200 inside of his jeans when I went back to hotel around 10 pm   because X lined me that he closed shop and is on his way.
Another case when I was glad to forget about economy since he  charges as guy of his built and charm , whatever it means , should. Absolute gem as far as I’m concerned, talkative , easy going and outside of his few limits, very social so to speak. One of those who on the spot understand what customers likes and what makes him hot. It was past 2 am. when he left so our short time was not that short.
Well heated I decided that spending rest of the night alone would be mistake I fired Grindr and found somebody in vicinity who agreed to share my bed till morning for 1500, yes,  just to share by bed.
It turned to be funny story which I already reported here :
https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/37804-my-funny-apps-story-from-last-night/
And here’s just copy and paste of what I wrote then:
Last night at 2 am  or so after my companion left I decided that is too scary to sleep alone and I need somebody if only to warm the bed and embrace me in my sleep, in short, no particular requirement and even brother of Hunchback  of Notre Dame will do. 
So fired Grindr and it was somebody shown at 58 meters away, still online. Actually nice, good looking and at 178  not too short so I sent a message, answer come right away agreeing to complete the night from now till whenever. I gave location and stated that I will be waiting in front of hotel.
And so I went downstairs looking right and left to a completely deserted soi for somebody to show but it was still empty. In about 5 minutes somebody appeared emerging from  my hotel. That was a guy actually better looking than  on an app. Turned out that he is in the same hotel. So via 7/11 we returned there, in elevator it  turned we are staying on the same floor and when  I asked what room you are staying, it was revealed that it was one opposite of mine with our heads leaning at the same wall, just from other side.
So distance of 58 meters really was more like 28 centimeters. Who would think I was so well positioned? 
And good news is, I wasn't asked for taxi money!!! 
Easy money for him as I really wanted just somebody to embrace and pleasure for me as he was better looking and gave better feel than I expected based on Grindr pics. To complete day 5 , in the morning I invited him for breakfast triggering another round of knowing  smiles by stuff at Foodland

I called one boy down to sit with me. No.13. Slim average build. Cute smile. Smooth skin. No tattoos. Round rimmed gold glasses. Mamasan said I had to buy boy a drink first. I was all ready to pay off fee and take him back to hotel. I didn't want to start the night with any argument so I said yes to the boy drink. I asked boy for his name and he said a name starting with A. I couldn't catch it as he said it so fast. He said he doesn't know English. He speaks Laos, Thai and Mandarin! I was flabbergasted! I switched to Mandarin (which I don't speak often because in Singapore, people speak mostly English) and got his Chinese name consisting of 2 characters. I shall abbreviate his name to HM for this recount. I asked HM if he would LT and he said yes and we agreed on LT fee. I asked him to get changed (remember boy was in his white fake Calvin Klein briefs). He only had 2 sips of his drink. I paid mamasan, even gave him a tip and wished his refurbished bar great success. HM and I walked past Hotmale bar on our back to hotel and I said hi to Alex and Aung and another waiter.
In room, I spent time admiring HM's handsome face and smooth body. It was only 10pm. Far too early for sex. I asked HM if he likes foot massage. He said yes. I lent him a pair of shorts and sandals. He was wearing sleeveless T-shirt, torn jeans, shoes and socks and of koz his white briefs inside his jeans. Besides his clothes, all he had was his Iphone. He got changed and we hopped over to Urban Vista massage - the one with glass wall at front entrance and many massage ladies and customers. Foot massage for one hour was 300 baht and I tipped the massage ladies 200 baht for each of us. "Are you hungry, HM?" I asked. Ok he said, up to you. I took him to Happy Beer Garden opposite old Soi Twilight and Raya Hotel. Over supper, we chatted non-stop and all of it was in Mandarin! I cannot remember the last time I spoke to someone in Mandarin so enthusiastically.
After dinner, it was back to hotel. Shower and then dim lights as we proceeded to round 1. Bushy circumsized long cock. HM is straight and so doesn't kiss or suck or bottom but I still enjoyed our time together. After sex, I told HM to help himself to drinks and snacks and he can play his games or watch videos on his handphone while I slept. I provided him an Iphone charging cable. We arranged to wake up at 7 for round 2. At around 6, I woke up earlier than planned. I felt his cock and played with it. Something feels different. HM had shaved his pubic hair overnight! I later discovered the disposable hotel shaver in the dustbin. After sex, HM showered. I gave him 3000 baht as agreed plus 200 baht for taxi. He had told me he stays in Sukhumvit with another Lao boy who works in a different bar. Overall, I enjoyed our time overnight but unlikely to repeat, at least not for LT.

That's why I am surprised there is not more discussions on the Japanese scene!  And Japanese are very specific but they will deliver what they agreed to.
I am by no means an expert on this topic but here is an example of what the boy can do.  If you look at the yellow highlights on the bottom left of this picture, I believe the Japanese characters mean:
1st left: Atmosphere top (frottage? or) they are the lead in the action and on top.  No Penetration.
1st right: Atmosphere bottom
2nd left: "Bareback" top - this means they penetrate you.  They don't really do bareback, the words just mean penetration.  The little triangle means they are in training.  An x means they don't do it.
2nd right: "Bareback" bottom - this means you penetrate them.
As you can see, it can be a combination of different services.  I imagine if they only do atmosphere top or bottom they will be on top of you most of the time and lead the action.  Kissing and sucking you is something you need to be specific in your email as well.
Hope this helps.

 

Sadly I do not know and can only take a guess. It is only in the last couple of decades or so that Japanese porn photo magazines started featuring any form of anal sex. According to a friend who has had a long-time Japanese partner, cuddling, sucking and HJs tended to be the norm until around then. Although that has all changed now, I imagine that some of the boys who call themselves bottom are worried that they might meet up with a customer with a large cock which they would have difficulty accepting. This might lead to complaints to the mamasan. Why a boy who happens to be top would not wish that to be known, we'd need a Japanese to tell us, I expect.
On the other hand, Japanese have always been heavily into S&M. I was once shown a vdo which had been purchased in one of the regular sex shops. I found totally disgusting. I'll only say it featured screwdrivers and real blood. It's an aspect of Japanese sexuality I have never been able to understand.

The last time I was in Banana Room, there was this Farang customer, who came in quite late (30 min before the closing time) with his entourage of two teenage boys. He checked out the boys on rotation and later called one down. So I asked Mamasan when he sat next to me if the gentleman actually tried to find a third boy. He confirmed and said something along the line: great fun, you should do it
I observed the ménage à trois for some time, just out of curiosity. It seemed the first two boys do not really interact with each other, one of them smiled at me and I smiled back because he's cute. Does that count as flirting hehe?
Anyway,  I left before they did so didn't know if he really offed a third boy.

The younger guy/older samurai was certainly a large part of Japanese culture for centuries. It was actually introduced to Japan by a bonze from China around 800 years ago. It was rarely a long term relationship. Once the youth had passed into adulthood, he would be expected to marry and start a family. Eventually the practice came to be frowned upon by the later shogun rulers. Gay boys then tended to become prostitutes and actors but continued in great demand. If there was a golden age for homosexuality in Japan it was between 1650 and 1750. 
Everything changed during the Meiji Restoration. The Americans were largely responsible. The mass of Christian missionaries that followed in the wake of the warships were one reason. But equally the rulers of the country had come to believe that male/male relationships were 'unnatural'. The collapse of the country's feudal structure no doubt also played a part.
You have to remember that much of Japan was destroyed during World War 2. The country was also flooded with vast numbers of GIs, both then and again during the Korean War. Not a few of these were either gay or happy to spend time with a smooth young gay Japanese for a few dollars. Most Japanese, though, had to work extremely hard to drag the country back on to its feet. By the early 1970s this was becoming much more successful than most had hoped. Foreigners started working in Japan as overseas companies moved in. Some certainly were gay, as were some younger Japanese. Whereas the word gay took decades to enter the lingua franca of most countries, the Japanese word 'gei' found almost immediate acceptance. Soon gay bars were to spring up. By the late 1950s, there were more than 20 gay bars in Tokyo - more than in most western cities at the time. Soon the Japanese media were writing about a boom in gay establishments. 
The real gay boom started in the 1980s and early 1990s. If you were a gay young Japanese, you finally had a chance of exploring your sexuality. Most Japanese lived in what we would term tiny homes, many without bathing facilities. So there were community bathing centres. If you lived in one district, the chances were you or your family were known to most in that district. Being openly gay was still frowned upon. On the other hand, if you spent an evening a week in a gay bar quite far removed from your home, you would have the chance of meeting up with a foreigner. With luck, you might develop a relationship with him. With even greater luck you would move in with him. By Japanese standards, foreigners had vastly bigger apartments and had perks like entertaining and travel allowances. Many younger Japanese learned about the world as a result.
Some relationships lasted. I know one American/Japanese gay couple who met in a bar in 1985 and have been together ever since. Others faded. The tradition of older/younger still continued, however. Even in the 1980s, there was an unwritten understanding that if a young Japanese had a relationship with an oder foreigner, not only would he enjoy a much better quality of life, before the relationship soured, the foreigner would have enabled the Japanese to start a small business. So foreign boyfriends were greatly sought after.
Everything began to change again towards the end of the century. Many Japanese had become a great deal richer. This was in part a result of the Reagan administration forcing up the value of the Yen - in 1980, US$1 bought ¥260; by 1999, it was a little over Y100 - finding a foreigner was no longer essential. Japanese had begun to find their fellow Japanese just as attractive, physically as well as financially. That's not to say cross cultural relationships do not continue. They do. But if you do not live in Japan, it has become much more difficult.

The last time I was in Banana Room, there was this Farang customer, who came in quite late (30 min before the closing time) with his entourage of two teenage boys. He checked out the boys on rotation and later called one down. So I asked Mamasan when he sat next to me if the gentleman actually tried to find a third boy. He confirmed and said something along the line: great fun, you should do it
I observed the ménage à trois for some time, just out of curiosity. It seemed the first two boys do not really interact with each other, one of them smiled at me and I smiled back because he's cute. Does that count as flirting hehe?
Anyway,  I left before they did so didn't know if he really offed a third boy.

Actually they did. Here are some examples. I also noticed that those with a not so well-built body usually walk and talk with a kinda effeminate mannerism, which makes me think they are gay.


The one from South Korea obviously had some facelift and nose job done

As a bonus, a clip of the winner - the Vietnamese contestant 
 

that's most sensible advice although as we learn shortly , exceptions apply. Sometimes guys from the same bar did that before and may even suggest 3 some themselves, been there , done that and it was even my birthday gift from them as reported few years ago.
But what I suggest as universal rule in 3 (or more ) some cases is that 2nd boy should be picked up by the first , not us. We should reserve right for acceptation but shouldn't try to force one guy to accompany another. They may not be comfortable and who knows, may know each other even if working in different places.

Here are the two contestants representing Thailand and Vietnam in Mister National Universe 2022 just wrapped up in Thailand last week. I think the Thai contestant (who finished in top 10) has more of a Jupiter vibe, while the Vietnamese contest (who is the final winner) has more of a Moonlight vibe. So which one you would off and for how much? hehe

Here are the two contestants representing Thailand and Vietnam in Mister National Universe 2022 just wrapped up in Thailand last week. I think the Thai contestant (who finished in top 10) has more of a Jupiter vibe, while the Vietnamese contest (who is the final winner) has more of a Moonlight vibe. So which one you would off and for how much? hehe

And they often inflate the tips they received from other customers as well (the anchor effect in psychology). Many MBs I met has his "A-customer-gave-me-5000-for-ST" story  and for Viet boys, who claim "top-only", the "A-customer-offered-10000-for-f*cking-me-but-I-said-no" story (hint: I'm waiting for a higher bidder)

Here are the two contestants representing Thailand and Vietnam in Mister National Universe 2022 just wrapped up in Thailand last week. I think the Thai contestant (who finished in top 10) has more of a Jupiter vibe, while the Vietnamese contest (who is the final winner) has more of a Moonlight vibe. So which one you would off and for how much? hehe