ChristianPFC

I'm from Germany, but spent the last years in and around Thailand. From reading this forum, e.g. it seem boys are paid by time, with 30 min or 1 hour common? Not my style, but if it works that way in Brazil I have to prepare mentally. All my encounters in SEAsia are open ended. If a boy tells me has only one hour time, I will tell "see you another day, when you have more time". With some boys I spend only 30 minutes in bed, but that's because activities are not what I'm looking and if it's not working out, there is no point to stretch it. Records (all with free boys) were 6 hours in bed (daytime, awake), one in Myanmar, one in Taiwan, one in Thailand, and after 6 hours I or he had other business to attend to.

My two credit cards are both Visa, and I will bring both and store in different locations (same Euro to exchange to BRL). Two mobile phones (the old one take with me, the new one keep in hotel), and money stored in two places. The only thing I don't have twice is my camera, now three years old, but it was expensive! I will have it hanging around my neck, so I can take pictures easily. Where can I find public toilets in Brazil? In Thailand I would go to shopping malls or temples for free toilets, and bus and railway stations sometimes have free, sometimes paid toilets.

Thanks everyone for their replies. Before my last post I had superficial look at agoda and was amazed at how low prices were, first impression was that hotels are cheaper than SEAsia. On closer look, some of these turned out to be hostels/dormitories. So I raise my budget for accommodation to 30 USD per night (I just need a bed, hot shower, aircon if necessary.) I will arrive in the morning, let's say I will be at the hotel 9 am, whereas common check-in time is 12 or 13. Free early check-in was never a problem in Thailand, but how about Brazil? The decision (to go to Brazil) is cast and the flights are booked, but I will keep Mexico in mind (was off my radar before; and before Covid Brazil was off my radar as well). "haggling prices in Bras, and 25 de Marco" Awful! I hate haggling to the extend that I don't buy at places that don't have the price displayed (because I hate having to ask for prices as well).

Some questions for my upcoming trip. When taking a taxi, can you sit in front? (In Thailand, I always sit in front for better view and comfort, but most people sit in the back.) Does anyone here drink tap water in Brazil? (I do so everywhere in SEAsia without negative effect.) Are hotels cheaper when booked on hotel booking websites online or walk-in? (Strangely, in SEAsia generally cheaper online, but I had a few that were cheaper in walk-in.) I will get a Brazilian SIM-card, not so much for calling and SMS, but mainly for data, at least 2 GB for my two week trip. I hope my experiences will entice me to come back to Brazil, for that case I want to to extend the validity. Which operator is particularly easy/cheap for long validity? Any hotel recommendations for SP and Rio? I like public transport, so it should be in walking distance to metro station and no problems to bring back boys. Price up to 20 USD per night. Internet says you can bring one mobile phone, but with two you might get questioned at immigration/customs. Any experiences? I will fly with hand luggage only (hold luggage would cost 80 EUR more for round trip). Is laundry service widely available? I will need to buy a full set of clothes in SP, recommendation where? (And afterwards leave them in Brazil, or try to sneak them into the plane as overweight/oversize hand luggage.) Most popular app for online dating is grindr, most popular messenger is whatsapp, most popular taxi is grab?

No news in English if the opening to tourist (30jun-28aug2020) will be extended. But poking around in google in Portuguese I found this official announcement: https://www.in.gov.br/web/dou/-/portaria-cc-pr-mjsp-minfra-ms-n-419-de-26-de-agosto-de-2020-274222561 Diário Oficial da União Publicado em: 26/08/2020 | Edição: 164-A | Seção: 1 - Extra | Página: 1 Órgão: Presidência da República/Casa Civil Relevant for us is Paragraph 6, after running through google translate: New to me is the minimum coverage of health insurance. No negative test of Covid taken no longer than 72 h before flight required by Brazilian immigration. And on website of airlines I might fly with (KLM, Air France) not mentioned either.

Thanks for your reports. What is GP? "Cum gutter" learned something new. For me it's more protruding hip bones (and shoulder blades as well) that turn me on.

I am happy with what Thailand and other countries in SEAsia have to offer boy-wise. Under normal circumstances there was no need for me to look elsewhere. But now that all of SEAsia is closed to tourists, I read about Brazil and conditions are favorable (distance, time and cost of flight similar to Thailand, and 90 days visa free stay for Germans is great!). How it works out in detail, how I will get along with Brazilians in bed, I can only find out by going there. Still nothing on internet or from embassy if the current opening will be extended beyond 28aug2020.

Germans returning from risk areas just have to take a covid test when arriving at the airport and then are free to go home.

I'm planning to travel for holiday to Brazil (Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, total two weeks) in September. Thanks to everyone who shared their observations since the opening to tourists on 30jul2020. Some questions: As far as I know, the current opening to tourists is for 30 days. When and where will an extension or cancellation be announced? Those who have been, how strict is the check for health insurance at Brazilian immigration? There is travel health insurance available in Germany that covers Covid, which I haven't booked yet, so I don't know if the confirmation letter does state so in English. My background: I have never been to the Americas before and did take all my holiday and boy business to SEAsia, mainly Thailand. But currently they are all closed to tourist, and no end in sight. Brazil was not on my radar for a holiday and boy destination, but research now looks promising: travel time and cost similar to Thailand, 90 days visa free stay for Germans is great. I don't speak any Portuguese, but can read French fluently which will allow me to understand most signs (whereas in Myanmar, Cambodia, Vietnam: absolutely no idea!).

Stickman once quoted a bargirl saying something like: I wish Foreigners came only here as tourists and then go home after two weeks and not stay all year. It's not bad intend, just stupidity and following old laws that are appropriate any more. Good points by both Martinsen and DivineMadman. Thailand is not the ideal place to live for me. But after spending about 5 years in Thailand and traveling all over SEAsia except Philippines, considering what's important to me (ease of getting tourist visa, cost of living, food, boys) it comes out on top.

That title goes to divinemadman. See his blog on gay massage. I do 5 - 10 massages per year in Bangkok and Pattaya. In Thailand, it's not my main gay business, and for me overall rarely worth the time and money. But in Myanmar the situation is different, on my last 8d7n trip I had three massages (three different places and boys), and all worth a repeat!

Maybe you are too concerned about hotels? When I'm alone, I don't need much. So for first night I book some cheap place near bus or railway station or city center. And following days, for inviting boys to my room, something more luxury. In case of recent trip in Myanmar that would be a guesthouse with only cold water in shower for first night for 15 USD, and the following nights a hotel with breakfast included for 30 USD per night. In Thailand, I rarely book hotels, mostly walk-in. Even when I went to Indonesia in 2015, and Vietnam in 2016, I didn't have a hotel for my first night, just walk around tourist area and choose one. But nowadays immigration might ask for address or want to see hotel booking, so I book one for first night.

I do most of my hotel stays as walk-in (but I found that in Thailand, Taiwan, Myanmar prices online are about 20% cheaper than walk-in, so I might book online in the future), and in low- or mid-class hotels (300 to 600 THB per night) in the provinces in Thailand never had a problem with early check-in, around 9 am. More than 9 out of 10 hotels I go to have a free room, I can even increase that to only one out of 20 hotels I went to was booked out (from vague memory, as it's so rare). I wouldn't worry a second about staff being busy cleaning the room after the last or for the next customer, as I assume the hotel was not fully occupied yesterday and will not be fully occupied tomorrow. I once came from Pattaya in the afternoon and had a night train to Chiang Mai at night, and no hotel in Bangkok. I did some sightseeing and had a massage with shower before and after and change of clothes instead of booking a hotel room. My problem is the opposite: I sometimes need late check-out, like 1 or 2 pm. Last year I had to pay 100 THB for one hour late check-out, but that was because a boy came around 11 and I checked out 13 and well worth the money. Last week I got late check-out 2 pm for free in Myanmar. But late check-out is always a discussion (whereas early check-in was never a problem), so if I know in advance, I would not book online, but ask at reception and if there is a problem, go elsewhere. Based on over 5 early check-ins or late check-outs, mostly in Thailand. So my advice is: for early check-in (I think everything after sunrise should be okay) do NOT book online, but walk-in and if a room is free (from the day before, not from a guest that checked out even earlier) they should give it to you without problem. (Unless of course ALL hotels are cheaper online than walk-in, and I have been paying too much for hundreds of nights in hotels.)

A freelance masseur has no costs for shop; I wouldn't pay any more than he quotes. 800 THB for 2 hour body-to-body appears a bit low (comparing to Bangkok and Pattaya; I haven't spent much time in CM in the last years). I have a simple structure: I only go to places without minimum tip. On average it costs 400 THB for one hour oil massage. During massage I see if I get horny. If not, I leave it at massage and tip 300. If yes, I do some indecent touching and if the masseur is amenable, we will have a wank and I tip total 800. I find that reasonable and fair. I had one in Bangkok who originally asked for 2000, but in the end agreed. I have several in Pattaya who want to have business with me again under these conditions.

I don't know of a night bus to Koh Kong. Whenever I flew to Cambodia by Airasia from Don Mueang, the bus trip from terminal to airplane almost took as long as doing the full trip by bus. The railway recently was extended from Aranyaprathet to the border crossing. On Cambodian site, railway line and station are complete. I can only be a matter of decades until everything is sorted out and there will be a train connection between Bangkok and Phnom Penh. https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2019/05/thai-cambodia-railway-connection.html Poipet is an awful place (judging from staying one night in 2014 before crossing into Thailand, and spending some hours going by car earlier this year).

No organized gay scene in Chanthaburi. There is enough sightseeing around town to keep me entertained for days. Public transport will be poor or non-existent. In fact, I once crossed with a friend by his car from Cambodia into Thailand at Ban Packard/ Phsar Prum and don't remember public transport on either side. I crossed from Cambodia to Thailand in Trat by public transport: https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2016/08/cham-yeam-to-baan-hat-lek-border.html

Mostly on the shaft, at least those I have seen and touched. I had several (maybe 5 out of 500) boys with mooks, and only one (out of 500) with silicone. He said it can be removed, but he doesn't have 20 kTHB to pay for the operation.

I don't remember such an incident. Someone on the long gone bitchboard (good riddance!) posted a picture of me. About two years ago I had several boys who wanted to take pictures or video of me, or us, or him, during activities, which I mostly rejected. And if such question comes up again, a clear NO. The problem is secretly taking pictures or videos. Some boys like to play on their phone before and after sex (some would even during sex), and I haven't found a way to curb that. Best would be to put my phone on a table out of reach from the bed, and to tell the boy to do the same. And dim the light. Most cameras perform poorly in low light. I like to have some light during sex.

My experience is opposite. I took a few boys for sightseeing, and it usually after less than one kilometer of walking, I get "I'm tired/my legs hurt/it's so hot/sunny..." and two years ago I gave the room key to the boy so he could go back to my hotel room.

Absolutely! I love reading about other's experiences and to share my own, but there has to be some privacy. I will continue trying to revive the gay online dating forum on sawatdeenetwork (now visible to members only), and will do the same here as soon as it gets members only. My following thoughts refer to gogo bars in Pattaya (Bangkok has gotten too expensive to go there regularly). I have gotten better over the year in selecting boys, and now half of my offs are okay (the lure of a new boy who might be better is bigger than taking this one again) and half are good (I will surely see him again). Half are repeat and half are new. I don’t care about eye contact and smile, but observer their behaviour with other boys or customers. Poor performing boy might get a second chance if he has a great body. Given the high number of boys I go through each year, I sometimes have to refer to my notes to decide whether to take a boy again or not. I don’t discuss activities or money in advance. I pay the going rate (1000 ST in Pattaya) and am quite flexible when it comes to activities in bed. Despite all the advantages of online dating, when I find a boy online and he works in a bar, I rather go to see him there. The boy keeping the same online dating account, Line account, phone number for long time is a good sign; frequent changing is a bad sign (at best that the boy is poorly organized, then he will probably have space-time-coordination problems as well). In online dating, delay time is important as well. To test delay time, I even do small talk.

I used to have a signature, but that has been gone for some weeks or months without notice, so I assume signature has been disabled in forum software.

A boy I met in 2010 or 11 told me: "My friend has (I can't make out the word)". Your friend has what? "My friend has (I can't make out the word)". Then I asked him to write the word on my phone: pormbel. I understand written, even if mangled, much better than spoken and instantly understood: problem.

First: how well do you know and and does he want to go? Second: does he know his way around (I mean do not expect him to organize everything; some can, others can't and will be a burden). I would start negotiations with 1500 THB per night. If he wants more that a means either he is not interested in the place or in me or is greedy, all good reasons for me to forego this boy.

Tipping, the perennial favorite! I would not have tipped anyone, as I don't need any advice from mamasan; and from waiter I only want him to bring my drink, which he is paid for by his employer. Either a reputation as cheapskate precedes me, or I look like a non-tipper, or I immediately forget such incidents, but I don't remember such problem. If someone asks for a tip, he will get a "no" and if he asks again, another "no" and the next person from that bar or elsewhere "no". I'm immune to those requests/demands/expectations, they run off my skin like water on a lotus leaf. When the big cock or fuck show performers roam the audience, I keep my hands on my lap and just smile and say "thank you" when they come to me. Being a single child and having lived alone might help for this: I do not do what others expect/demand/request I do, I do what I think feel doing.

Not at all! There are few in touristy areas, but I have seen many, and used some, all over Bangkok (where it would take too long, and return fare for taxi would cost similar as the ST room, to take a boy to my room). In the provinces they are mostly resorts out of town, unsuitable for my needs (I don't have a car, and I have a hotel room in town). https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2014/12/short-time-hotels-in-bangkok.html