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Well said. Furthermore, some people like me like the hunt, whereas a friend who lives in Bangkok wants it quick and easy, he doesn't even look further than 2 km away on online dating because arranging travel would be too much hassle/delay.
In Cambodia I did statistics, offering 10 USD I got 50% accepting, for 20 USD I would get 90% accepting.
For Thailand I estimate 1000 THB 50% accepting, 1500 THB 90% accepting.

Well said. Furthermore, some people like me like the hunt, whereas a friend who lives in Bangkok wants it quick and easy, he doesn't even look further than 2 km away on online dating because arranging travel would be too much hassle/delay.
In Cambodia I did statistics, offering 10 USD I got 50% accepting, for 20 USD I would get 90% accepting.
For Thailand I estimate 1000 THB 50% accepting, 1500 THB 90% accepting.

Well said. Furthermore, some people like me like the hunt, whereas a friend who lives in Bangkok wants it quick and easy, he doesn't even look further than 2 km away on online dating because arranging travel would be too much hassle/delay.
In Cambodia I did statistics, offering 10 USD I got 50% accepting, for 20 USD I would get 90% accepting.
For Thailand I estimate 1000 THB 50% accepting, 1500 THB 90% accepting.

Even after years, I sometimes judge wrongly. Unless the profile or the boys says so, I assume he meets me for free for fun.
The money boys I meet get 1000 for short time (which for me is at least 1 hour), I reject everyone asking for more. Still plenty of repeat business or new boys for 1000. Not even a question of distance, some travel from the outskirts to meet me in central Bangkok, all for 1000.

I can understand your Target rates as an long term expat, the ones who come for short periods like me don't have the patience neither the time to try finding boys for 1000 Bht and make long searching and tedious negotiations with potential boys so obviously we pay the going rates accepted in BKK min.1500 Bht for ST.

Tiktok do have messaging system, but its only available to friends, aka, if u follow them and they follow u back. Nuisance but yes, many share their other soc media account for contacts

Even after years, I sometimes judge wrongly. Unless the profile or the boys says so, I assume he meets me for free for fun.
The money boys I meet get 1000 for short time (which for me is at least 1 hour), I reject everyone asking for more. Still plenty of repeat business or new boys for 1000. Not even a question of distance, some travel from the outskirts to meet me in central Bangkok, all for 1000.

Even after years, I sometimes judge wrongly. Unless the profile or the boys says so, I assume he meets me for free for fun.
The money boys I meet get 1000 for short time (which for me is at least 1 hour), I reject everyone asking for more. Still plenty of repeat business or new boys for 1000. Not even a question of distance, some travel from the outskirts to meet me in central Bangkok, all for 1000.

Gayromeo is still around, but of little use outside Bangkok and Pattaya.
My favorite app is Blued, works everywhere I have been in SEAsia.
Tiktok has no messaging system, but most have their facebook or other social media linked, and that's where I messaged the guy I saw on tiktok. One successfull encounter, out of dozens I have messaged.
I'm not on onlyfans because it costs money to join and I don't want to watch, I want to touch.

Even after years, I sometimes judge wrongly. Unless the profile or the boys says so, I assume he meets me for free for fun.
The money boys I meet get 1000 for short time (which for me is at least 1 hour), I reject everyone asking for more. Still plenty of repeat business or new boys for 1000. Not even a question of distance, some travel from the outskirts to meet me in central Bangkok, all for 1000.

I won't.
I don't have the patience nor the social skills to pretend to "entertain" a group of money boys .
I will have to sit there and pretend to be nice striking up broken english conversations.
I'm not a people person,I don't like people actually 

I miss parties Nero, the emperor was throwing in the Colloseo or Circus Maximus but world goes on , sigh

I agree about the drinks prices: horrendous and ludicrous. 
Best to stay away!

1. not in my experience
2. not in my experience
3. cock sizes exaggerated, no problem for me
4a. indeed, in my experience massage skill from poor to okay
4b. indeed, no issue at all for me
5. indeed, no problem because I speak Thai
6. not at all in my opinion. 400 for 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and  in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher.

Grindr, Jackd and hornet are more or less the same, but some guys prefer using one over the others.. they would be the top 3
Blued is busy in East Asia, if you want to meet a tourist from China, HK, Taiwan, etc you can probably find them on Blued. I haven't used it in Thailand in a long time, so others will probably have recent experiences.
Instagram, twitter + Onlyfans takes a bit of effort. on instagram if you take the time to start a conversation you can meet guys. twitter is basically the search engine for onlyfans, OF guys have inboxes full of messages from horny guys so you're only really likely to get your wallet drained.

I would not base my choice of masseur on dick size they show, all exaggerated in my experience, and dick size not that important to me anyway.
I had good, average and poor experiences at those places and for me worth a return.

1. not in my experience
2. not in my experience
3. cock sizes exaggerated, no problem for me
4a. indeed, in my experience massage skill from poor to okay
4b. indeed, no issue at all for me
5. indeed, no problem because I speak Thai
6. not at all in my opinion. 400 for 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and  in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher.

I would not base my choice of masseur on dick size they show, all exaggerated in my experience, and dick size not that important to me anyway.
I had good, average and poor experiences at those places and for me worth a return.

1. not in my experience
2. not in my experience
3. cock sizes exaggerated, no problem for me
4a. indeed, in my experience massage skill from poor to okay
4b. indeed, no issue at all for me
5. indeed, no problem because I speak Thai
6. not at all in my opinion. 400 for 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and  in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher.

Many years ago, there was a demonstration in a gay disco in Khon Kaen, where a condom was blown up like a ballon, and burst upon touching it with a finger covered in oil, as if it had been touched by a needle. Now that I make that comparison, maybe they indeed secretly touched it with a needle? Some day I might try myself, blow up a condom and touch it with oil. 

I don't buy into this practice of paying, never mind giving more and believe is fosters more experiences like this, because what did he lose ....nothing. I know Thailand and "saving face" crap, but I don't get loud, I would've stopped after the first 10 minutes and said this isn't working, I want a different person. Worst than wasting the money is wasting time. I've said it before, if you are a tourists, every day has a per diem expense and time shouldn't be wasted over a useless pos like that. If it was someone not charging from an app, that's the risk we take, if you're paying, no paying for poor service....

I respect your right to choose it, but I am not onboard with Doxi Prep...and none of the health care professionals I have spoken to in my home town (NYC) are recommending it either. We already have too many problems with super bacteria/antibiotic resistant bacteria. This is just going to make it worse. I will stick to Van Wilder's advice! 

The last year has flown by with no time to put pen to paper, but also less inclination as Bangkok Guy and I have begun to fit into a routine in each other’s lives.
Business brings me to the region more frequently and Bangkok Guy now joins me for the weekend wherever I am. We have also enjoyed a couple of longer trips to Thai islands and to Japan.
Tokyo, it turns out, is not just shopping, although he did a lot of that, finding great deals on clothing. Bangkok Guy has wanted to live in Japan since he was a child. It has both natural beauty and Tokyo. It is clean, it is efficient, he likes the food and the people are polite. The hotel staff bowed to him which made a big impression. It ticks all his boxes. He had a blast. We will return.
However, this note is not a travelog. Rather, it is an observation on some of the realities, particularly the financial realities, of a relationship begun in a bar.
The short term reality is that, for very logical reasons, a relationship is a lot more expensive than bar hopping.
Like every other bar guy Bangkok Guy worked in a bar to meet financial needs. As he straightforwardly puts it ‘I am poor person’. Over the years I have known him I have come to understand how difficult it is for him to maintain a steady income, let alone to grow his income.
He is economical and careful with money, including my money. I visited his apartment, a studio in a well kept building in a less convenient location distant from public transport.  Clean, tidy, crammed in an orderly manner with his market stock. Microwave, hot plate, modest sized TV, shrine. Nothing expensive or flashy.   
When I first agreed to give him an allowance we made a spreadsheet of all his expenses and his income. He was at best breaking even and, given down time for bad weather, more likely net negative. Initially the allowance covered half his expenses.
During covid the unstable nature of his income became very obvious, so I increased the allowance to cover all his expenses.
However, given the Thai family structure, his responsibilities extend beyond just looking after himself. Since his father left he is responsible for his mother and younger sister, particularly his sister. This puts huge pressure on him, which he does not like to bring to me but he has no other solution. So I have agreed to cover some of these family responsibilities. I have seen enough documentation that I am pretty sure that the money goes where I think it goes. Also, after six years, I trust Bangkok Guy.
An allowance which was originally a little more than I would spend in the bars during a couple of trips each year is now about three to four times that amount. Not an amount that will cripple me, but now enough to notice.
Despite the greater expense, I get more out of spending the money this way. Helping Bangkok Guy makes me happy.   
The long term financial reality is the same as that for any relationship where the financial gap between the partners is large. To retire and maintain my lifestyle with Bangkok Guy will be more expensive than doing it solo. For starters I intend to travel a lot and I will need the resources to cover travel for two. More enjoyable, but more expensive.
Bangkok Guy and my goal is to be living together in three years’ time. I need those three years to improve my finances so that I can have my cake and eat it too. To be with Bangkok Guy with no diminution of lifestyle.
It’s good for me. I now have a lot of motivation as I head down the final stretch.
 

I'm not into kissing.
But a friend is and told me he asks boys "do you kiss" and on their reaction (kissing him or verbal) he can judge.
There is no point in being shy, if you want to kiss, ask the boy!
For me, the interest a boys shows in the bar is a poor indicator. Nowadays I do most of my business online, so I have to go back a long time to find examples. 2011 there was a boy who looked dull on stage, showed no interest in anything or anyone, but was great in my room. No clear memory of the opposite, a boy showing interest in me on stage, but boring in bed, but sure that happens as well.
As for rimming/kissing:

 

I'm not into kissing.
But a friend is and told me he asks boys "do you kiss" and on their reaction (kissing him or verbal) he can judge.
There is no point in being shy, if you want to kiss, ask the boy!
For me, the interest a boys shows in the bar is a poor indicator. Nowadays I do most of my business online, so I have to go back a long time to find examples. 2011 there was a boy who looked dull on stage, showed no interest in anything or anyone, but was great in my room. No clear memory of the opposite, a boy showing interest in me on stage, but boring in bed, but sure that happens as well.
As for rimming/kissing: