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Hi: Can anyone tell me if I should be worried about altitude sickness when going to Bogota for the first time? I understand that you can take Diamox (Acetazolamide) to help prevent it. Does anyone know if it is easily available in Colombian pharmacies? Finally, the el Dorado airport website says there is a pharmacy in arrivals. Would anyone know if you can buy it there? Thanks.

Just wanted to drop a note about Bogota. I was there a few weeks ago and it was my first time in this city, but not Colombia, having visited Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla, Santa Marta and Cali before, so I am very familiar with the country at least. What has helped with my travels in Colombia has been getting to know an actual Chaturbate studio (and have visited numerous times), and because of that I have been sifting through its models to be my companions in my travels in Colombia. When I’m discovering a city for the first time, I always like to have a constant companion with me, preferably someone who speaks the language to discover the city with me. Interestingly (unlike my experience with garotos in Brazil), through this studio, I don’t pay the boys any money per se, but I do take them to the occasional shopping spree, plus of course providing all food and transportation. I think it is because I started right with the first cam model in this studio I went out with, and subsequent boys have followed suit. Of course I will get the occasional plea for money when I am home, but I just say no. The disadvantage in having someone there all the time is it is hard to meet other boys to have sexy time with you when you are with your chosen boy for the trip. But I can hardly complain, as these Chaturbaters are really sexy and eager to show you a good time. Lately I have been spending a lot of time with two Colombians, ages 23 and 24, and boyfriends who only do duo broadcasts on Chaturbate (and Cam4). They seem to be the perfect combination of hotness, generosity with their bodies, with a healthy dose of humility and easy-going demeanor. They let me stay in their apartment one weekend, and they always insist that I sleep in between them, for maximum contact. It is such an amazing arrangement, but it can get awkward sometimes when you have to get out of bed to pee. You either have to roll over one of the boys, or get out of the bed the long way in the middle. But again, hardly a deal breaker. Sex with both is always great and satisfying, and having each sexual encounter be a threesome is always a production (three times the cumming, all three need to be showered, etc). Bogota has always been a dream destination for them. As “Costeños” they were used to the constant sunshine of the Caribbean coast. They were excited to visit what they call “the refrigerator,” due to Bogota being colder and grimmer than the coast due to its altitude. Before the trip, I promised to bring them old sweaters and jackets I had in storage back home that I haven’t worn in a while. They insisted on taking the arduous 18-hour or so bus ride to Bogota from the coast, due to one of the boy’s fear of flying, so they left their home hours before I had to hop on my flight from California. I was glad I brought the sweaters and jackets for the two boys. They got to the AirBNB safely, but were freezing their asses off, even though it was only 65F (18 C). The AirBNB unit I rented did not have a heater, the same as most apartments and hotels in Bogota, so the boys snuggled up to me in bed and the couch, which worked for me of course. Days were much better for them, as It was warmer, but they still had to bundle up when leaving the house, and I also had to buy them some gloves and beanies, which was readily available from street vendors for cheap. Some points: 1. I was kind of surprised by how Metropolitan Bogota was. It is not as modern as Medellin, but the pace of the city was much faster than the more laid-back coast. During the day the city had an army of workers who filled the offices, and it was kind of a nice change of pace from more tourist-oriented towns. 2. My Uber driver from the airport to my AirBNB was a tall, muscular and hot Bogotano was also a firefighter. Spoke very little English but very accommodating with my broken Spanish and talked slowly enough for my American ears to understand. Good start to the trip, and his hotness got me worked up for my boys. 3. The AirBNB I rented did not have any issues with my two companions staying with me, and I can imagine them not having any problems if instead I had a rotating harem visiting me constantly in the building. The security, though fairly cautious, seem to be very laid-back. View of the front of the building, with a drumline celebrating… something: 4. The neighborhood we stayed at was in Chapinero, and I was unprepared on how gay it was. Opening Grindr was like seeing a Christmas tree light up. The boys were checking Grindr as well and got inundated with offers from locals to meet. If I were to guess, the boys who messaged me constituted of 40% boys looking for customers, and 60% were just regular locals wanting to hookup, 30% of which what I would consider hooking up with. I will need to go back here alone to take advantage of the boys: 5. Speaking of gay, I purposefully picked an AirBNB that was close to the gay bars. I was surprised that the apartment building was just across the street from not one, but three gay bars, and in the same block as 4 others. And we saw the occasional gay couple holding hands in the streets. It was really gay central, complete with a rainbow crosswalk: 6. Another surprising benefit of staying in gay central Chapinero, is that it was relatively safe to wander the streets at 4 AM without fearing for our safety. Granted, there were 3 of us every single time when we walked the streets, but we did not have any problems stumbling out of a bar at the usual ungodly hour, and to look for late-night snacks around Chapinero. We did not have to take any Ubers and appreciated the relative safety of the neighborhood. 7. Even if Bogota is a proper world city, it still had relatively third-world prices for the most part, cheap food readily available and super delicious. The boys insisted in indulging my request to eat authentic Colombian food. I certainly was not disappointed here. And having soup in the morning is a good counter for the cold: 8. There are a lot of things to do in the city, if you are bored with all the indoor sweaty activities. Highlights for us were the Gold Museum, which was free on Sundays (most museums are free on Sundays): and the mountain Montserrate, which had a church on top of it, which we took a cable car to get up to: 9. Sadly, I did not have the opportunity to check out the saunas. Maybe next time. 10. And finally, and probably the highlight of our trip (apart from the sex, of course), was visiting Theatron, the legendary gay bar in Chapinero. Saying it is a bar, of course, does not describe the venue accurately, because Theatron is really 13 bars in one: it was this large stadium type dance hall: surrounded by 12 other gay bars, each with its own theme and vibe: We all agreed that Threaton was a destination on to itself, and the sheer variety of what you can find in the place deserves multiple trips back. We only had time to go on a Saturday night, and there was a tremendously long line of energetic party-goers trying to get in, but once we paid the 35,000 COP ($12) entry fee, which included a hard plastic cup we used to get our unlimited drinks (between 10 PM and 2 AM), we took advantage of the various venues the place had. Traditional dance tunes, electronica, latino music, trance, chill music, you name it, they had it. But probably the crowning jewel of the place was in the 4th floor, which was a men’s only floor. We did not know why women weren’t allowed until we saw this: I will definitely go back to Bogota, possibly alone next time. There is so much more to see.

Nothing special to note during those months. As a general trend, Latin America travel is projected to grow 14% in 2023, and Colombia travel by 18% next year. That's a lot of new faces discovering the capital. Anecdotally the presence of foreigners in Medellín, particularly digital nomads, has increased significantly in 2022 and that trend shows no sign of slowing. Oh, i almost forget. With the reopening of travel post-pandemic, there is a string of big-name rock acts performing stadium shows in Bogotá in February and March. The rolos love their rock music.

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I returned last week from my second trip to Bogota, and I also visited Medellin for the first time. I will try to be short since there are tons of info concerning these cities in this forum: The Cam model I managed to talk for some weeks with a Cam4 model , twink type not really everyone’s type but very hung and one of the most popular models at the site (he is Venezuelan, my favorites). We agreed to meet in my first night in Bogota - we went to a bar in Chapinero and had some drinks (actually 10 LOL ) , after that he asked me if he could come to my hotel - obviously I said yes. Some cuddling and then we tried to have sex , but I think we were both too drunk, so we just cummed before real fuck. In the next morning I ordered room service breakfast, and he said that that was the first time he had breakfast served on bed... his life was really difficult back in Venezuela (he is a Cam model in other to send money to his mother and younger sisters in that country). He never asked any money from me and actually in the bar he asked me if he should pay for his drinks- of course I said no. In the next evening he asked if he could come over to my hotel , and again yes. The sex was not that good I have to say - I found out that he enjoy just to be act and so am I , but we managed to have some fun. That evening he made 2 private shows from my room’s jacuzzi LOL ok I am not so jealous - and all in all I was not paying anything to him (besides of food and drinks) so he had to make his living LOL. We agreed to go to a sauna together, but I had a business dinner to attend, so I didn’t managed to in those first days. That would be his first time in a sauna. In the 3rd night I wanted something different in the menu, so I found a bottom musculous guy in Grindr that asked 150 , I offered 100 and he accepted - I expected him to be taller, but the pictures were acurate and he had a really nice body in fact - and he was amazing in bed - after my not so good sex in the night before, that was a well spent money. Talking about Grindr , that really works in Bogota - I got dozens of mesages of normal guys / free guys wanting to meet. But I am still a bit selective - and most of the guys with amazing bodies are escorts LOL so I decided to support the local economy. After 3 days I went to Medellin- The city of everlasting spring. I will continue later.

Hi guys, I’m going to Bogota March 1-4. I’ll be visiting friends on March 3 but other than that I’ll be on my own. Not looking for saunas or rent boys just some Grindr action. Please advise an accommodation where I can meet guys and bring them back without drawing attention. I need to be discreet! As anonymous as possible any advice would be greatly appreciated Coming from Miami, i speak Spanish. Good shape 40’s

There r no brazil-like garotos saunas. However, there r saunas without garotos as well as brothels. I suggest you aquaint urself with bogota and medellin businesses threads. My medellin trip report partly mentions some.

OK, I finished Bogota and ready for the report. I spent 3 days here before 5 in Medellin and now 2 days back before going home. I felt a duty to report on this little-known place and was determined to crack it's hard-to-penetrate shell. From worst to best: Neighborhoods: TEUSAQUILLO-- Just above downtown, from about 35th to 50th Calle, a trendy fashionable neighborhood with embassies and several universities. SAUNAS: CLUB BALTIMORE SAUNA Actually in a hotel (the Maria Isabel). Gets lots of mentions. That doesn't mean it's good. I went in and the entrance was outrageous- like $60 but I was assured it was worth it because they had A (as in one) masseur who was standing in front of me- he was a 2 at best and I did a u-turn. CASA ROMANO SAUNA Has very titallating ads promising sex shows once a week and strippers once a week. In an old mansion next to the Israeli embassy. I went, I paid to get in, and was introduced to the single masseur they had; he looked like a twin of the 2 I was introduced to at Club Baltimore. Two saunas down quick. COMPLICES SAUNA Also deceptively titalating ads. Just because someone's good at html doesn't mean they're also attractive. Not sure this place even has a masseur but no one of the few people I saw there was better than the ones I shunned already. 3 down quick. CHAPERINO- (Known locally as Chapigayo)- The vast GayBorHood of Bogota. From about 50th to 70th Calles. Bogota has about 9 million people and Chapinero has maybe a quarter million. The south side toward 50th is more run down but safe while the north side bordering the "Financial District" has the Hilton and Marriott. The center part around the Theatron nightclub on 58th is so totally gay that straights seem out of place. Dozens of gay bars and nightclubs and saunas and shops from one end to the other. One of those areas where you can sit and just watch the parade of trendy attractive young urban gays (and drool). STARBOYS Not a sauna but a video club (there are several) listed as having masseurs. It doesn't. Small booths with glory holes were all empty although the owner or manager was a really pleasant guy who smiles and chats machine-gun like sweetly even though he knows you don't speak Spanish. SAUNAS: MEDITERRANEO SAUNA- Also very tempting ads. This place didn't just disappoint but totally creeped me out. You're not allowed to wear towels or briefs; you have to be totally nude. You're given a washcloth and told to hold it over your privates. Tiny building with cheap rates; 15K COP admission, 30K 30-minute massages. I'd pay a lot more to get out if I were trapped in. One of the masseurs was a decent young black guy, there was a cute young towel boy, and there was a cute young guy in the jacuzzi with someone but I never got close. The other masseur I met, and who approached me several times, was terribly out of shape, maybe 35, hairy and too pushy. Probably worked at the St. Moritz when he was 25. I wanted to wait and see if there were other masseurs with clients but a customer with really bad teeth, a really bad comb-over, and a face out of Deliverence kept following me and groping. Through the washcloth. An evening here would not have turned out well. Go forewarned. DAGOAS SAUNA I didn't even go in. I approached the desk and got a bad feel plus I had already had sex twice in 2 hours and was tired. It's in the old address of St. Moritz Sauna and that's how I stumbled on it. It advertises entrance plus 30 minute massage for 45K. Might be wonderful. I doubt it. What is wonderful is the blond security guard outside the gay bar next door. Why I went by three times but no contact. BABYLON SAUNA Where the financial district starts. Highly recommended by many people. Great ad. Entrance was 20K COP but it's published massage rates are very reasonable. It's only open from 3pm until 9:30pm (most of the saunas are only open from 1 until 10pm). Ad has photos of 3 masseurs, I only saw 2 of them, not the white one. All the staff and all masseurs are Amero-Indian and very stocic. Not a word. Very nice facilities and one of the half dozen masseurs really appealed to me- a guy with the body of an American football player. Pure beef. Tights like tree trunks. But he kept texting on a cheap old cellphone the whole time I was there and never looked up. Maybe I should have made a move. I didn't. SAINT MORITZ SAUNA Finally ! Gay El Dorado. At least a half-dozen masseurs. All white (as opposed to Babylon's all native). The friendly towel boy checking you in is cute as a button. The shy 18-yr old manning the bar is one of the cutest guys I've ever seen but doesn't massage. From his expensive braces and expensive designer t-shirt I'd say he's kept well by someone, probably the owner, but will be turned out to massage in a year or so. As soon as I get through the door I'm approached by a tall masseur with big pectorals with an offer for total release massage for 40K. Hairy guy with short hair who looks like the photo to the right on boytoy. Once my eyes go down I notice he's not exactly a six-pack tummy. Very slight lovehandles. Big nipples. Then another guy just like him approaches. Both 25-30 and hairy and very pectorally. Then I notice two more like them. Finally I meet with a shorter guy with no body hair, a nice tatoo of an angel wing, totally smooth skin, the firmest butt I've ever seen, a six pack and hard pectorals and biceps. He wants 150K COP for "Complete", 70K for Basic. That's high for Columbia. What I learn the hard way is St Moritz does not have published rates like every other sauna and you're dealing directly with the masseaur who gets 100% directly from you. Deal with masseurs at St Moritz the way you would with prepagos in negotiations. I talk him down to 120K COP for "Complete" but later learn that doesn't include (from him) any oral other than kissing and certainly no anal. Still it was well worth $48 US for the lengthy hand-job and French kissing from such a stunner. He dresses immediately to go out as I guess he's made a lot of money for him. I go to shower. In spite of St Mortiz being big and very very nice I discover the shower is tiny and has only tepid water on hot. I go out and joke about it to the shy perfect 18 yr old bartender. He tells me I should have gone to a shower upstairs. I hit on him again. He considers it a compliment and grins huge but explains, no, he doesn't. Ever. His smile alone is enough. If I were here longer I would concentrate on Grindr- I've gotten 49 messages in 2 days in spite of having no photo- just "Daddy" as a name and "visiting from USA" in description. Also I would work the cute bellhop in my hotel who's winking at me now on my last day, and I'd work the streets in Chapigayo. And I'd return to Babylon and St. Moritz a lot, and check out some of the other couple dozen saunas and Theatron. THEATRON I didn't go. It's not open Monday or Tuesday and opens at 9 or 10 other days. It costs $13 US admission including unlimited volka drinks but I don't drink. Theatron is the largest gay nightclub in South America. In an old theater building it has 10 bars. Everyone on CB in Columbia I asked and everyone in Medellin I asked for suggestions just said all I need to do is go to Theatron- anything I want I'll find at Theatron. Anything. My flight's at 9am and I'm off to bed. Ciao Columbia.

I usually carry a small amount with me from home -- 500K COP is plenty to get you through a few days while getting set up. Most of the major banks (Bancolombia, Banco de Bogota, Colpatria/Scotiabank, Davidivienda, BBVA) will work just fine with your US banking card. Do let your bank know that you are traveling in Colombia (including credit cards) as there remain many financial restrictions on Colombian transactions. I have had issues with Scotiabank transactions being rejected multiple times before I can withdraw cash so be aware. Most will offer to do the transaction in COP or USD. Always choose COP as the currency - the exchange is designed to not favor the recipient and the US dollar exchange rate is noticeably higher. Most machines limit you to a maximum withdrawal of 700K COP. Another local tip -- if you can find an ATM machine with Banco Agrario de Colombia (bright green machines) they always offer the best exchange rates and the highest limit on withdraw (up to 2MM COP).

I just looked at IHG prices for this hotel, 74$ a night seems high for Bogota international hotels seem very high in Colombia in general..

When I arrived in Bogota a few weeks ago, the immigration line was crazy, waited 2 1/2 hours.....was no one when I was leaving, but the officer told me that depending on the time of day, leaving can be just as bad.

Lots of good advice here, I was not careful in Medellin or Bogota in regards to Grindr men. No hotel or AirBnB registered guests. several guys I had were venezualians refugees with ID problems.... I hope Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia are not becomming security problem areas...... I want to compete for the international slut awards....

I guess it was too good to be true. In hindsight, I wish I would have booked Air Europa. They canceled the last two legs of the booking. This means I can only fly a day later. It might because they decided to fly later at night. The new flight would be the 30th BOG - FRA, but at 11:30 PM. This would mean that my connecting flight to AMS changes and there will be a layover of 4 hours. My first thought was, almost a 5-hour layover in Bogotá and 4 in Amsterdam, crazy. But then I realized that it is worse than that. The first leg of the flight has not changed. Which means that the layover in Bogotá is 29 hours. I asked them to change it, but they kept saying that the flights are overbooked. 🤔 Finally, Customer Service told me that there are no seats in my class on later flights or the next day. Mind you, this is a flight with Avianca. They have 10 flights a day, MED - BOG. It is not that I am asking for an extra day. The least they could do is fix it that I don't have this absurd layover. I have written to Lufthansa to complain, but I think I will just cancel the flight. There are still tickets available for €1500 with Air Europa, but it is not going to be optimal. If I didn't have extreme problems with the altitude in Bogotá, I might have just done the one day to check out the scene. But I've been to Bogotá once and left after three days because I couldn't stand it. I don't understand why someone would pay €2000+ for this Lufthansa flight. Their business product on the route seems very outdated. No privacy and if you have a window seat you need to step over your neighbor. Same goes for Air Europa.

Tarnation, I have a trip planned this month with a sexual play focus within the Bogotá component, where majority Monkeypox incidence for the nation is located, but have been holding off on accommodations for the entire trip, in case this … and also minimal vaccine supply there. I estimate the daily Bogotá MSM incidence at 1/1,000, contagion point-prevalence at about 1/100 MSM.

Just to be clear, my Bogotá Monkeypox case prevalence estimate of approximately 1 in 100 intimacy candidates is based on official reports of current rolling case incidence, adjusted for Bogotá proportionality of national figures as well as consensus regarding proportionality of susceptible MSM within overall general populations, and a conservative estimate of on-average 10 days of individual case contagion. It does not account for possible undercount because the ratio of true incidence to diagnosed incidence is not known. Therefore, my estimate is actually conservative overall. If case undercount is a genuine phenomenon, then the point prevalence increases upward from 1/100 to the extent that the current officially reported case incidence is inaccurate. For example, 3 undiagnosed cases, for every diagnosed case that underpins surveillance figures, alters the overall Bogotá MSM setting point prevalence estimate to 1 in 25-ish. Ironically, the opinion that undercount is a feature that supports the relatively innocuous consequences of this virus, as believed by some, just inflates estimates of point prevalence. If those estimates represent ‘fear porn’ to some attempting to interpret risk, then the assertion that there is a tip:iceberg ratio is where the finger-pointing regarding alarmism more appropriately lands. What is important is knowing probability of cases and associated transmission potential in specific contexts. Thereafter every individual must assess their particular infection risk tolerance. The clinical consequences are fairly well known. I would not presume to either minimize or exaggerate those consequences. It is mystifying that a reader would obnoxiously object to epidemiological data reporting because the magnitude of prevalence appears to him to contradict his subjective view of the magnitude of morbidity impact. The trend of decline in incidence may eventually emerge in Colombia that seemingly arrived late to the party. If the disease peters out, say, because 75% of MSM infections are dispersed by 25% of those MSM and the latter achieves higher rates of recovery and/or vaccination immunity that in turn reduce ongoing transmission all that will have been a reassuring good thing that happened because a bad thing preceded it. The anticipation of absence of incidence recidivism in specific locations actually supports the idea of capitulating to a transient adjustment in travel plans. That is hardly at the level of being perpetually startled by one’s shadow.

Monkeypox scaremongering even here…oh god. I estimate the daily Bogotá MSM incidence at 1/1,000, contagion point-prevalence at about 1/100 MSM. Just stay away from sex parties and don’t stick the cock of people showing blisters and lesions on their skin, inside your ass. In Europe despite a ring vaccination rate near to zero compared to the US and zero prevention measures apart from the self awareness crap, there has been no mass extinction nor armies of disfigured fellow fags due to the MPX lesions. Also that’s why in Brazil “no one cares”. No one cares because especially after covid risks must be weighted correctly and I honestly think that apart from the few severe cases and the 14 deaths over 300k estimated cases globally (60k official), it’s perfectly understandable if people give to this virus the attention it deserves. Also FYI…Colombia testing rate is something like 7 times higher than Brazil

For those who have tried that: Would it be worth getting out of the airport and visiting the city? The airport seems very close to the center. But mainly my question is about: - is the immigration process in Colombia (in and out) so painful that it kills the opportunity? - can I just leave my luggage in their transit system and I don’t have to pick it up at the carrousel even if I leave the airport, or is this breaking some sort of rule? Thanks!

Well said. My deeply researched and experience-based (past in Bogotá) playbook was to have been strictly tourism outside of Bogotá. Exclusively venue-curated play, ie, St Moritz baths and Gigolo club upstairs when in Bogotá 3 nights. My decision rests on postponing due to those two congregate setting risks and leaving only airfare on the table versus a possible abstinent couple of weeks. I don’t hire from ads.

Just back from a few nights in Bogota....Gigolo house is fun, went to St. moritz sauna the following day....couldn't pull myself to go to Teatron, was too tired and not a fan of HUGE crowds. I stayed in Chapinero neighborhood and lots of gay bars to go to..... Mileroticos and the apps have plenty on offer. Although I was surprised some of the guys on Mileroticos never responded to my whatsapp https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/bogota/

Did you search the various threads on Columbia/Bogota? There is plenty of info there.

First time in Bogota (not exactly first time, but last time was ... 37 years ago). Arriving in Bogota airport at 1 pm on a saturday, leaving sunday at 9 am from airport. Any idea of what I should do ? Gigolo Erotic House ?

Yes, apart from transport mode considerations, I recently booked Olaya Herrera to Bogotá return on Satena for an upcoming Medellín trip in which I wish to add a Bogotá excursion. I did not need a VPN. Fare range was COP300-600K. I booked the highest fare (Plus) of the four options as it really isn’t much by Canadian standards. It turns out that it has the highest flex for changes but all seats on the small craft as well as checked luggage privileges are created equal, not that I will have more than carryon.

Santa Marta is in my list, but probably for when I am already staying in Bogotá or Medellín for several months. I would probably visit for a week or even just a weekend. My curiosity for Cali is evolving in the same direction. I know I just said that one should not get hooked with one destination and instead try different ones in different trips. However, Rio is just too tempting. To make its charms more irresistibly, I just learned that Rhyheim Shabazz will probably be in the city by November. If the situation does not change, everything seems to tell me that I have to spend my Thanksgiving break in Rio.

I did not find that and asking the locals did not lead me to one., closest was theatron in bogota (https://www.portaltheatron.co/) (which was loud very crowded and most of it roped off for a private party when I was there) which had gogo dancers in speedos.

Sounds like Dagoas Sauna on Clle59 but they no longer offer massage from what I have heard. They now advertise as a Sauna/Hostel if you want to hang out in Chapigay for the weekend. Poseidon Sauna on Clle 57 offers "massage" services on certain days, but need to check ahead. As you noted, only St Moritz (Clle 65) and Bagoas Club (Clle 69 -- outside the village) regularly offer massage services in Bogota.