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quick funny story to add to the flavor of this post
back in 2011 when I moved back to Rome from Budapest I was in a new apartment and I was waiting for the Telecom technician to install my wifi box and setup my internet in my new apartment.  He was sexy.
When he finished his work, he said to me get your laptop so that we can test the performance of your new internet.
I opened my laptop and then my Chrome browser and what pops up - the web page for CircolodelleSeghe - https://clubdelleseghe.forumcommunity.net/
Oh my God, the Italian jerk off club was in full view in front of the Telecom technician.
I turned apple red and said excuse me so that I can test another web page.
His reply astonished me - "Don't change the web page - I like to jerk off with other guys......"
Next thing I know we are jerking off together - his cock in my hand and his hand on my cock.....
Reminds me - we never did complete the internet speed test....
but he did a good job as everything was fast - hahahahahaha
I tried to contact him again for more fun but he told me - "I am straight and married with kids....."
I said - so what - all straight guys need to jerk off from time to time  :>))

quick funny story to add to the flavor of this post
back in 2011 when I moved back to Rome from Budapest I was in a new apartment and I was waiting for the Telecom technician to install my wifi box and setup my internet in my new apartment.  He was sexy.
When he finished his work, he said to me get your laptop so that we can test the performance of your new internet.
I opened my laptop and then my Chrome browser and what pops up - the web page for CircolodelleSeghe - https://clubdelleseghe.forumcommunity.net/
Oh my God, the Italian jerk off club was in full view in front of the Telecom technician.
I turned apple red and said excuse me so that I can test another web page.
His reply astonished me - "Don't change the web page - I like to jerk off with other guys......"
Next thing I know we are jerking off together - his cock in my hand and his hand on my cock.....
Reminds me - we never did complete the internet speed test....
but he did a good job as everything was fast - hahahahahaha
I tried to contact him again for more fun but he told me - "I am straight and married with kids....."
I said - so what - all straight guys need to jerk off from time to time  :>))

quick funny story to add to the flavor of this post
back in 2011 when I moved back to Rome from Budapest I was in a new apartment and I was waiting for the Telecom technician to install my wifi box and setup my internet in my new apartment.  He was sexy.
When he finished his work, he said to me get your laptop so that we can test the performance of your new internet.
I opened my laptop and then my Chrome browser and what pops up - the web page for CircolodelleSeghe - https://clubdelleseghe.forumcommunity.net/
Oh my God, the Italian jerk off club was in full view in front of the Telecom technician.
I turned apple red and said excuse me so that I can test another web page.
His reply astonished me - "Don't change the web page - I like to jerk off with other guys......"
Next thing I know we are jerking off together - his cock in my hand and his hand on my cock.....
Reminds me - we never did complete the internet speed test....
but he did a good job as everything was fast - hahahahahaha
I tried to contact him again for more fun but he told me - "I am straight and married with kids....."
I said - so what - all straight guys need to jerk off from time to time  :>))

quick funny story to add to the flavor of this post
back in 2011 when I moved back to Rome from Budapest I was in a new apartment and I was waiting for the Telecom technician to install my wifi box and setup my internet in my new apartment.  He was sexy.
When he finished his work, he said to me get your laptop so that we can test the performance of your new internet.
I opened my laptop and then my Chrome browser and what pops up - the web page for CircolodelleSeghe - https://clubdelleseghe.forumcommunity.net/
Oh my God, the Italian jerk off club was in full view in front of the Telecom technician.
I turned apple red and said excuse me so that I can test another web page.
His reply astonished me - "Don't change the web page - I like to jerk off with other guys......"
Next thing I know we are jerking off together - his cock in my hand and his hand on my cock.....
Reminds me - we never did complete the internet speed test....
but he did a good job as everything was fast - hahahahahaha
I tried to contact him again for more fun but he told me - "I am straight and married with kids....."
I said - so what - all straight guys need to jerk off from time to time  :>))

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness.
I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh.
I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment.
I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him.  No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang).
The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance.
Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1
I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  
To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay.  Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand.  and then there is Grindr (which I hate).
Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries.
Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee.
so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

Thanks for the compliment ichigo.  This forum gives me so much enjoyment and information that I like to share whatever intel that I have with our fellow forum members.
I spent the 2019/2020 New Year's Eve in lovely Phú Quốc and I had a great time.
I have a funny massage story from Phú Quốc.  I was walking in one of those narrow alleyways near where all the main hotels are that go from the main road down to the beach and there was this very sexy massage guy that convinced me to get a massage in his shop.  The only problem was that there were no walls just a sheer type of sheet separating each of the perhaps 10 massage beds from each other.  This guy got me so excited with a BIG erection while I was laying on my stomach and he kept massaging my dick but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right.  When I rolled over onto my back we had to stop because things became too obvious.  I left there so horny and frustrated.  My only regret was to ask him for a way for us to continue in a more private place.  To this day, I think about that moment.  If I ever go back to Phú Quốc I will try to find him again but after 4 years already I am sure that he has moved onto other things by now....

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness.
I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh.
I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment.
I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him.  No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang).
The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance.
Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1
I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  
To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay.  Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand.  and then there is Grindr (which I hate).
Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries.
Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee.
so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

I hope they reopen. It's an institution. Nothing else like it in Asia. But if they are still closed when I visit Bangkok in early to mid June, I will gladly take Tawan guys from the street back to hotel room! Maybe I will hire 2 of them to do muscle flexing for me!

Thanks for the compliment ichigo.  This forum gives me so much enjoyment and information that I like to share whatever intel that I have with our fellow forum members.
I spent the 2019/2020 New Year's Eve in lovely Phú Quốc and I had a great time.
I have a funny massage story from Phú Quốc.  I was walking in one of those narrow alleyways near where all the main hotels are that go from the main road down to the beach and there was this very sexy massage guy that convinced me to get a massage in his shop.  The only problem was that there were no walls just a sheer type of sheet separating each of the perhaps 10 massage beds from each other.  This guy got me so excited with a BIG erection while I was laying on my stomach and he kept massaging my dick but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right.  When I rolled over onto my back we had to stop because things became too obvious.  I left there so horny and frustrated.  My only regret was to ask him for a way for us to continue in a more private place.  To this day, I think about that moment.  If I ever go back to Phú Quốc I will try to find him again but after 4 years already I am sure that he has moved onto other things by now....

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness.
I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh.
I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment.
I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him.  No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang).
The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance.
Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1
I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  
To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay.  Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand.  and then there is Grindr (which I hate).
Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries.
Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee.
so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

Good to know boys are still on the market so to speak. As for better days, it goes without saying , without bar to facilitate meetings with clients it must be much harder to get some business.
Not everybody is keen on hooking with guys on the street. Not sure about other apps but I combed grindr few times and saw only one advertising there. 
As for opening at end of next month , question is : which is "next month" in that story. I wouldn't bank on it but will be happy to see I was wrong.
that's very commendable and they deserve it.

there's no such thing

Exactly. And some of those secrets are hidden in plain sight.
Many thanks for your report.🙏

I'm the youngest in my family, so I learned to be quiet early in life...... One time while getting a foot massage at Tarntawan massage, where I think Green Massage is now, the guy covered me loosely with a blanket because instead of changing into their massage pants, I just stayed in boxers. He kept "accidently" touching my dick underneath, I told him  I liked that.....the shop had other people getting foot massages and no one noticed that he had jerked me off under the blanket and used a spare towel to clean up.....great stealth technique he had, and yes, no moaning from me...

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness.
I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh.
I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment.
I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him.  No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang).
The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance.
Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1
I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  
To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay.  Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand.  and then there is Grindr (which I hate).
Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries.
Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee.
so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

Thanks for the compliment ichigo.  This forum gives me so much enjoyment and information that I like to share whatever intel that I have with our fellow forum members.
I spent the 2019/2020 New Year's Eve in lovely Phú Quốc and I had a great time.
I have a funny massage story from Phú Quốc.  I was walking in one of those narrow alleyways near where all the main hotels are that go from the main road down to the beach and there was this very sexy massage guy that convinced me to get a massage in his shop.  The only problem was that there were no walls just a sheer type of sheet separating each of the perhaps 10 massage beds from each other.  This guy got me so excited with a BIG erection while I was laying on my stomach and he kept massaging my dick but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right.  When I rolled over onto my back we had to stop because things became too obvious.  I left there so horny and frustrated.  My only regret was to ask him for a way for us to continue in a more private place.  To this day, I think about that moment.  If I ever go back to Phú Quốc I will try to find him again but after 4 years already I am sure that he has moved onto other things by now....

Thanks for the compliment ichigo.  This forum gives me so much enjoyment and information that I like to share whatever intel that I have with our fellow forum members.
I spent the 2019/2020 New Year's Eve in lovely Phú Quốc and I had a great time.
I have a funny massage story from Phú Quốc.  I was walking in one of those narrow alleyways near where all the main hotels are that go from the main road down to the beach and there was this very sexy massage guy that convinced me to get a massage in his shop.  The only problem was that there were no walls just a sheer type of sheet separating each of the perhaps 10 massage beds from each other.  This guy got me so excited with a BIG erection while I was laying on my stomach and he kept massaging my dick but I could not moan too load or shoot my load as there were women and other straight customers to my left and right.  When I rolled over onto my back we had to stop because things became too obvious.  I left there so horny and frustrated.  My only regret was to ask him for a way for us to continue in a more private place.  To this day, I think about that moment.  If I ever go back to Phú Quốc I will try to find him again but after 4 years already I am sure that he has moved onto other things by now....

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

Wow - I am now living here for 18 months and I was not aware that there are several Pattaya baht bus routes.  Above is mentioned, "Operating along the Route 4..."
So, I queried Google and sure enough there are many routes - here is the source article: https://www.pattayaunlimited.com/getting-around-pattaya/
with a link to a custom Google map, image below:

Prior to reading this article I was only aware of the Jomtien & Pattaya route and the Beach Road & 2nd Road Loop routes.
The above map implies that there are in fact 8 routes = wow....
Everyday we learn a new thing....