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Because Williewillies nice report I visited the bar for the first time after the renovation. A huge improvement and the bar now looks great! About 12 gogo-boys, 4-5 in A-bomb shirts and the rest shirtless. Better rotation on stage now. In the old bar it was awfully slow. They are still as before, extremely over-staffed with waiters, doormen, papasans or whatever, in comparison to the amount of customers.
Show started 23:50 and ended 00:28. A lot of nude boys. Thankfully no ladyboys singing or showing off their big dresses, there is enough of that in every other bar.
After the show some of the boys went out and were obviously not available and only participated in the show. The others, up on stage for rotation.
Sure the boys here are bigger than the average Pattaya barboy, but none of them really exceptional in my humble opinion so I did not find anyone I think was worth buying a 300 baht boydrink for. Off fee I was told is now 500 baht. In the old bar the boy would expect 1500 tip for short time. I don't know if that is still the case.
Too expensive for my taste. I can find what I'm looking for cheaper. But will probably visit a few times a year to see the show and to see what's on offer.

Last night a couple of us did some bar hopping in Boyztown area.
we went to the 10:20 pm Dream Boys show, which I always enjoy.  We decided to try the 11:50 pm 
A-Bomb show.  It started on time and featured about 15 lads.  Fairly typical Sexy boy show,  NO ladyboys,
and a grand finale with all 15 boys naked and hard.  It was a lot to take in with so many guys but no complaints.
I can report that None of the A-Bomb show boys was in the Dream Boy show.
The boys did not pour into the audience after the finale for tips.  Earlier, four of them did come off the stage to try to
bring a customer on the stage.  They succeeded with one  Asian man and were very playful and affectionate 
with him.  Fortunately, he was not morbidly obese or decrepit as they partially stripped him.  He was a good sport.
Before and after the show, most of the many gogo boys were shirtless and playful.  Some Asian women in audience.
 
 
 

The lovely Chet - veteran from Goodboys - is back after 2 years of army service. Now working in Dragon 789 bar.
I thought it was worth a mentioning since he has a lot of fans (I'm one of them).

The lovely Chet - veteran from Goodboys - is back after 2 years of army service. Now working in Dragon 789 bar.
I thought it was worth a mentioning since he has a lot of fans (I'm one of them).

I disagree with this.  I've found lots of guys who are great at giving head when I'm wearing a condom.  The techniques might be a bit different, sometimes maybe a bit "rougher" and even a little with the teeth.  
Also, because I firmly believe that sex workers have every right to ask a customer to wear a condom, including for oral sex, I think it's important - and really quite easy - have the attitude "Sure, put a condom on me, it will still be fun and I'm so glad you're taking your health seriously."  If people get all pouty face or start cutting tips because their guy asks them to wear a condom then it is unfair and sends the wrong signal.
 

I understood the owners of BBB now are Chinese so they probably have no difficulty to bring large chinese bus tour group companies to their bar. If they have large groups on regular basis why should the boys bother they can be fully dressed and don't have to make any efforts for the customers...
Once BBB was the best bar in Thailand for me, Now there's no point to visit there anymore.

Recently Big boys bar in the neighbour soi also tried that concept, dressed boys and extremely overpriced drinks, and they stayed open less than three weeks before closing down. They however threw in a lot of ladyboy lipsync in their shows too...
But I think some thai bar owners just don't realize that the reason why BBB is succesful is not because their boys and drinks are expensive and the boys are fully dressed, but because BBB have the contacts and cooperation with the large chinese bus tour group companies. It's not like those chinese decide themselves where to go - they follow the flag.

As the saying goes, "All work and no play makes Jack/Mack a dull boy". 
In Bangkok recently for work, I made sure my evenings were free. Then tacked on a few more days in Pattaya. The first of four trip reports is up at http://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog with one new report a day. Beware  -- these are long reads.
Sunday evening upload: Bangkok bars
Monday evening upload: Bangkok massage
Tuesday evening: Pattaya bars
Wednesday evening: Pattaya massage.

So this bar went from boys in underwear to fully dressed boys, and drinks from 220 baht to drinks for 280 baht... Exactly the kind of changes I dont want to support so I will probably stay away from there.
But how sexy was the "sexy show"? Any nudity?

Anando Massage (a couple of doors down from Sun City Hotel)
Ok, this one isn’t an M2M massage at all. I’ve had problems with my big toe nails since my Days of military service. My nails curve too much so cut in at the sides. Normally I cut my own nails and suffer a lot. Last year I got caught in a rain shower and rather than get soaked, decided on a foot massage. This was the place I was walking past. Due to either miscommunication or the middle aged masseur seeing my nails, she decided I was getting a pedicure. Long story short, she really did a number on my nails and it was a bit painful as she did it but I’ve not had a problem in the year since. Went back this time for another pedicure. Realise that I’ve been to chiropodist for years who have never been able to give me more than a month or two of relief.
 
Soda Massage (Jomtien Complex)
Since Fah Massage is now closed, decided to try Soda, across the T junction from Fah in Jomtien Complex. Probably 15 guys to choose from twink & fem types to more muscle. Wasn’t offered a shower beforehand (or after for that matter). One Hour oil massage 400b. The boy was clothed throughout and the massage was mediocre. Little strength to it and no sensuality. He had all the techniques and moves but simply didn’t apply any pressure. The place itself has little cubicles with flimsy walls and slide doors that don’t shut properly. Luckily we were in an end cubicle and I heard no other customers while I was there. The end of the massage was a bit strange, still fully clothed he finished off the massage, grasped my dick which he had studiously avoided for an hour (as well as ignoring every other errogenous zone) and tried desperately to get me erect. By this time I wasn’t horny in the slightest so stopped him and got dressed. Not somewhere I will go back in a hurry. Could just be the masseur but the environment wasn’t very conducive either.
 
Ice Massage (Tukcom Area)
I’ve walked my this place a few times over the last couple of years but never gone in. Historically, it’s always seemed only a couple of boys around. This time there were loads. Probably 6 boys outside and another 10 visible through the window. Decided to give it a shot. Presented with the standard list of massages but at the bottom of the list “Erotic Massage” 1000b for 90 mins. 500b min tip. Well, I had to give it a try didn’t I? Mostly twink and fem boys to choose from. No muscled types. Chose a reasonably tall boy, early 20’s at a guess with very thin, but not fem, frame. 
Showered alone and then the massage began. It was a good massage. It just wasn’t an erotic massage. The masseur was naked throughout and there was lots of body contact, it just wasn’t erotic. When I was asked to turn over, I’d pretty much given up but the strangest thing happened. Throughout the massage he had been completely limp. Even through the body contract, not even a slight chubbing up. When he turned me over though he first massaged my legs, arms and body while sat between my legs maintaining body contact then he started on my dick and groin. What was strange was that within 10 seconds of him starting touching my dick, he was absolutely rock hard. It didn’t take me very long before I was the same and we had a really great last 20 minutes with lots of play. 
So, overall a good massage but not ‘erotic’ and good play at the end. Will go back for another round later in the holiday.
 
 

I’m not going to do a diary type thing as I tend to have chill days where I like to do pretty much nothing. It’s a holiday after all and I need the downtime from work. Also, I very rarely go to the bars so my focus this holiday will likely mainly be on Massage places. If those have no interest for you, move on and read some of the other fine threads here.
 
Helios 
I hadn’t been here since it was Blue House massage but, having read somewhere that it was the only boy massage place that does a soapy massage, thought I’d give it a whirl. The outside now really doesn’t seem inviting. I guess I’m inconsistent because I also hate being grabbed by the arm somewhere as I walk past, but for me having a few boys outside smiling is welcoming. I can’t say I’ve ever had a bad massage at Blue House, but then many of my visits were to see Ken who was very good. 
On entering, the boys gathered. There were only 5 of them and a mix, a couple were youngish (probably very early 20’s), the others late. 20’s or likely older (it’s so hard to guess age sometimes). Last holiday I spent going for the cutest guys and had very mixed results, this time I went back to the adage ‘go for the biggest smile’. One of the early 20’s guys was smiling really broadly, the others either half-hearted smiles or none at all. Though the smiling boy was cute, with a toned swimmers body, he was more tattooed than I might usually choose. He was the one I chose though and an hours ‘foam massage’ as they call it rather than soapy. 
He left me to grab an initial shower while he collected the bits. There was a fairly large waterproof mattress on the floor, otherwise the room was like a large shower room. With massage places, I rarely ask in advance what someone will “do”. I really like the not knowing how far someone will go. Sometimes that leads to disappointment, other times to unexpected good times. We were both naked from the start which is always a good start but not always indicative of how things will end. Having never had a soapy massage before, i wasn’t sure what to expect from the massage itself. It’s obvious that there will be lots of body to body, what is probably intuitive but I wasn’t 100% sure on was how firm or otherwise the massage would be. The answer was that it was mostly sensual body to body massage and little firm massage techniques. He started with a back massage before turning to bum and legs. How a masseur treats your backside is always a good indication to me of how far they will go and what they are up for. If they give your crack a wide birth, chances are anything later will be perfunctory at best. This guy very early ran his fingers deep down the crack of my ass paying close attention to my asshole and on to the base of my dick. Though he didn’t linger too long it was a good sign.
The massage progressed with a lot of mutual contact and a lot of feeling up. He was hard as a rock in not too much time and took great delight in massaging my ass crack with his dick. Once he turned me over there really wasn’t much massage, it was almost entirely frontage. He still had a smile on his face and it wasn’t too long before he got a condom and lube out. I do wish he’d used more of the lube as he was a very aggressive top in multiple positions but I wasn’t going to stop him once he got started as it was so fucking good. After about 15 minutes he came and lay on top of me finishing me off. Overall, I could take or leave a “soapy massage” but if the sex in it is always that good then it’s well worth the time. 
1 hour foam massage was 600b. Minimum tip was 1000b but I gave him 1500b. Well worth it. 
 

Dream Boys has a really sexy show with 10 or more boys wearing only a condom.  Fast paced and eye popping good
finale.  The lads pour into the audience for tips and groping if you like that sort of thing.  Lots of fun.
Last night, about 8 Asian ladies in the audience and they were tipping hundred baht notes.  Boys were happy with tips.
 I go 2 or 3 times a week,
some nights only one or two customers, other nights almost full house.
some boys are big but many are slim.   all get hard. Beautiful naked butts too.  Check it out!
 

Three of us went to A-Bomb Boys last night before heading over to Boyzboyzboyz for 10:30 show.
There were seven gogo boys fully dressed in jeans and an A-Bomb tee shirt.  Drinks were 280b. each.
Ligthing, sound, a/c all okay.  Sexy boy show nightly at 11:50 pm.

Tested and confirmed by me on Tuesday evening, the boys agree on "standard Sunee price" 300 baht for "show". For some reason this bar tries to up the price to 500 baht, but if you bargain with the boys 300 was accepted.

Tested and confirmed by me on Tuesday evening, the boys agree on "standard Sunee price" 300 baht for "show". For some reason this bar tries to up the price to 500 baht, but if you bargain with the boys 300 was accepted.

thank you for all today's updates

Definitely the best bar in Pattaya for twinks with bodies shaped by going to the gym. Always a large selection of boys. Best time to visit is 21-23. After midnight usually not so many boys because the freelancers only work during the most busy hours, and also high numbers of offs.
Because expensive prices, 240 for drinks and 500 off-fee and the boys asking for 1500 (which normaly can be bargained down to 1000-1200), most times I just use the bar for looking whats on display and then contact the boys on Hornet or Blued.

I can't believe such an outrageous behaviour could take place in a classy bar like Eros! Shocking!

In 2013, I used to stay in Jomtien and off boys from Sunee and Boystown and go back by songtheo.
 
 
If the boy Talks about duration of short time, that is a very poor start. I don't like to rush things or have deadlines for enjoyable activities. So when a boy tells me in advance that he has only limited time, I reply "Never mind. We can meet another time. I will find someone else." In many cases, suddenly they have enough time. 
 
If everything goes well, I spend about one hour with a boy in bed. Add traveling and showering, and he is two hours out of the bar.
 
Short time is over when I give the boy the money.

I got a flyer in Winnerboys agogo yesterday that they will host a New years party. They promise 20 gorgeous boys, free shots and free food.

9:00 pm would be a good time. Some farang come much earlier, at opening,  in order to get first choice. Off fee before 10:00 pm is 600 Baht.

Just tell the guy you want to take him back to Jomtien and he'll get you there.
 
He'll walk you up to the main road and from there it's only 10 minutes or so by baht bus. No big deal.
 
As for short time, there is no set limit - certainly not just an hour as far as the guys in Sunee are concerned. Guys from Boyztown may insist on a 1 hour time limit but I've never come across this. Short time finishes after the fun has finished.

Simple; re-introduce dancing. It worked in the 90s, only to be replaced by the shuffle which year by year becomes more desultory.

I can't believe such an outrageous behaviour could take place in a classy bar like Eros! Shocking!

I can't believe such an outrageous behaviour could take place in a classy bar like Eros! Shocking!