Vessey

Day 10, last one 
 
To begin with I ‘m glad discussion developed above about merits of Pattaya vs. Bangkok. As we can see  we have different priorities and cherish fun in different places. Sure Pattaya fans are missing plenty by bypassing Bangkok and Bangkok lovers are missing plenty by giving Pattaya a miss. But this is where we are and like twinks vs hunks divide  everybody likely will stay at the same place even after longest and most heated discussion. And there’s even no need for that.
 
Back to my adventures after my boy Boy left I went to Foodland Patpong for my last breakfast there and then wandered aimlessly along Suriowong and Silom, never boring exercise as far as I can see.
Around 2 p.m. jumped on BTS  and went to Asok station and then to soi 23 to visit Banana Club at new location, it on the same side Urban Male is just few units further on small intersection.
 
I was impressed , place is big and newly renovated. On ground level  there’s mixed area for foot massage, upstairs is the enclosed lobby where boys will be waiting for customers and clients will be pondering their choices. Today there was still altar since monks were invited to bless the place but few hunky boys were on duty already. For me it was easy choice because my favorite from there Tao greeted me on arrival so we did not waste too much time but went to showers area. As in old location they have lockers and  showers are outside of rooms. Everything new and shiny, Tao told me I’m their first customer at new location so I hope to bring them good luck.
 
As always showered together and then proceeded to my usual fun filled  1 ½ oil massage course. Actually today we focused more on massage than fun since ever superbly skilled Tao found some sore places in my calf muscles and subjected me to quite a painful mutilation but having in sight 24 hour trip home  I did not mind if some acid will be dissolved before sitting for so long.
 
Kissing good bye till next time , walk to BTS and back in hotel where at 5 I was expecting to see again #14 Od from Tawan , another boy I have soft spot for with great body and attitude ‘if you happy I happy”. I do short times rarely but  on the last day I decided to speed things a bit.
 
He showed almost on time and great time we had with quite a bit of conversation about his work and customers. Then he left and I started packing  ad it was getting dark already but ever experienced with this task I did good job in no time and found desire to spent some time in my favorite spot this trip, you guessed rightly , Tawan.  At 9 Saturday night place was packed with both boys and customers.
 
Being somewhat familiar face there recently I was greeted quite warmly by boys I offed this trip, Bos, Od and  Boy but I had other designs I n mind so slipped each of them 100 baht , did the same to # 47 , another Lao boy never offed but often tipped   by me and knowing time is short I start pondering my last boy choices.
 
I wanted somebody new to me and had two in sight : Mekhin , one with Superman tattoo on his chest and #51 Tip I have designs since last Dec. Then he was always with customer, in May as some of you may recall he was one who agreed for the off and when I was paying fee to the bar suddenly announced he needs to go with another customer. I was in forgiving mood then and so today as well and more  curious than horny I just sat beside him.
 
Not what I normally do as my advice to myself and everybody is to look for boys smiling at you but we need to try something new from time to time. Shortly we were marching to Nantra  around the corner.
 
This is another Lao boy I have so much good luck with as on top of great body and smile he turned out to be great kisser, no doubt trained by some girlfriend. I like his hairstyle / spiky one / as well. He treated me very well  but price for not waiting for a smile needed to be paid – before 1 hour elapsed he was in rush to go back to the bar. No big deal since I had may be ½ hr left  but still I firmly believe than it should be me making god bye motions. No big deal though this time.
 
This was exact repeat of situation with Boy last December and since I found method of extracting three no rush long times from Boy, future with Tip looks bright I hope. So I will give him a third chance , only question is when?
 
Soon after I was marching to Sala Daeng BTS  , caught second last airport train / 45 baht /   from Phaya Thai. Smooth check-in, spent last couple hundred baht in airport pharmacy on my blood pressure drug , less than ½ of my home price, last 29 baht from my pocket was given to passing by cleaning lady. Free of  money worries, empty pocketed I embarked for long trip home from Bangkok  for 12th  time in my long life.
 
It was smooth return and nice surprise on arrival. For some reason no jet lag at all this time. With age I noticed that I’m taking long flights better and better but jet lags are getting worse and worse. Thanks God, not this time. All those kisses from Tip perhaps?
 
Some doubt if suffering such a grueling flights for sake of just 10 days in Thailand are making sense. My answer  is actually big YES. Part of this comes from necessity – due to some commitments I couldn’t leave even day earlier. Returning even  later was an option but at a steep price   jump of almost 400$ , thank you , no, my benchmark is 100/day but no more.
 
I liked every single hour of my stay. With longer trips sometimes what was excitement on shorter ones becomes just routine. Budget was much easier to control as well , not that was not busted but if was controlled explosion.
 
Highlight of this trip were meetings with many of our members: Xiluzer, ChristianPFC,  z909, bruceny, paulsf and 1moRussian were cheerful and interesting travel mates.
 
As for boys all 8 long times  off were 5.5/5 if not better, Tiger on night 3 fits there as well although we were together only 2 hr but is was arranged in advance that way so no disappointment.
 
In massage department Senso was king for me this time, Hero and Prince were lacking  excitement this time   surprisingly  perhaps. Banana and Bonny - my regular boys stick to their highest standards.  I did not visit Arena and Bangkok Massage for first time in years so I can miss them before next trip even more. I liked all three Pattaya massages  experiences   , missing Narcissus this time but tried Blue House and it’s soapies for a first time and liked it,  looking for repeat in future. 
 
 
I wish all of readers of this thread Happy New Year 2016 , see you all in Bangkok or Pattaya.

Back in Madrid for a couple of days .  A city I have never liked but now it seems to be loaded with cute twinks on Gayromeo, and Hornet as well as Grindr and to a lesser extent Jack'd.
 
Great kisser and sucker and loved riding me with only his spit for lube.  English minimal but the iPhone apps allow us to communicate.
 
90 Euros which seems to be what most ask for.
   

I believe just more boys on stage and more nude and sexual acts.  It attracts more customers and more boys are willing to show up and participate.
 
At least that is what I think>

I hope to be back for a short 10-day trip in a couple of weeks, so any more tips on what's hot and what's new would be appreciated LOL
 
Have a great time

I understand how you feel.  I've been there too.  When you do have those rational thinking moments, when it's not nearly killing you, the question to ask yourself:  Is it nearly killing him?
 
I don't think you need me to answer that question unless you actually believe he's pining away over you as you're pining away over him.
 
I'm sorry I'm telling you things I know you don't want to hear, but I've lived in Thailand a long time.  I've seen this same kind of situation over and over again.  An aging farang comes to Thailand, meets a boy, falls in love with him, and thinks the boy feels the same way.  While some people are posting their success stories, and I'm truly happy for them, they're the exception.  Most of the time the end result is another brokenhearted farang with a now empty wallet.
 
You seem like a very nice person.  I'm hoping your eyes will open enough so the same won't happen to you.  In the post above traveller123 said make sure you really know the guy.  He's right.  REALLY know the guy.  You said you met him at the end of your trip in November.  There's no way you really know the guy.  You hardly know him at all.  Maybe after you've spent several months with him it will be a different story, but for now  I urge you to wake up and take control of your emotions before you fall into the same trap I've seen so many times over the years.
 
Maybe the boy is absolutely sincere.  I'm not saying he isn't, but your job is to make damned sure of it.  For all you know he might have a whole string of farang who are also convinced they are in love with the boy and he loves them.  I've seen that many times too.  I remember one boy who used to carry around 5 mobile phones.  When I asked him why, he freely admitted, bragged about it actually, that each was for a different farang.  I asked him why he wasn't carrying just one, he said each farang had bought him a phone and a phone number with it, so carrying around just one wouldn't work.  The boy didn't have to work.  He had all 5 of them sending him plenty of money.  True story.
 
Another favorite story was a Sunee Plaza bar manager who was also good at convincing farang of true love.  He had a little problem when 2 of them showed up in Pattaya at the same time - and of course neither knew about the other.  For two weeks he somehow managed to 'take care' of both farang and survived the two weeks without getting caught. 
 
If pleas for money get started and more and more often there's yet another reason he needs more money, that, my friend, is what's known as a 'red light' and that's when you'll know you're being conned.  Look for other 'red lights' too.
 
Once you've known him for at least a year, or more, and have been able to spend at least weeks, or better still months, with him and all is still going well, then you'll know you found the right boy.  That's when to start centering your life around him.  But since you first met him in November, now is much too soon.  Don't let him take control of your life and emotions.
 
And please . . . don't be trying to convince yourself of something else I've all too often heard farang say - "Not this boy.  He's different."  If I had 10 baht for every time I've heard that one, my bank account would rival Donald Trump's.
 
Until then, I give you one of my favorite quotes - one I've posted many times before:  "If you want love in Thailand, rent it."
 
I hope it all works out.  If you do this the right way, maybe it will.  But be ready to drop him in case it doesn't.  Believe me, there are plenty more boys if it doesn't work out.  I hope you won't have to learn that the hard way.
 
Ok, I've said my piece.  Good luck.

Not only am I enjoying reading this, but  I am finding it a very useful source of information on places to visit.
 
Thank-you.

Not only am I enjoying reading this, but  I am finding it a very useful source of information on places to visit.
 
Thank-you.

Not only am I enjoying reading this, but  I am finding it a very useful source of information on places to visit.
 
Thank-you.

Day 8
 
Morning breakfast together and we parted out ways. My problem with Pattaya is that I don’t have anything to do during day there. Hate beach and shopping even more, really what I should be doing it’s just securing boy for a day and spent a time together in the darkened room.
 
 
Anyways I went for a stroll to Sunee Plaza , obviously deserted that early but apart from Good Boys I did not miss anything there anyways. Not trying to discourage anybody but Sunee is twinks kingdom  - not my area of expertise. Then short detour to Tukcom area. Smiled at boys and girls in various massage places but after two rounds marched straight to a Blue House to try famous soap massage.
 
Few boys on duty, all smiling but on smiling a bit more so took him upstairs. Place is clean and well appointed and soap massage has own room for it with massive mattress. Basically you are foamed as prelude to body to body massage, very sexy but I ruined it for myself by making my advances too soon which boy rightly took as signal not to bother and  move to phase two. So great time we had but I need to return just for soap part.
But I left smiling and left boy smiling , that’s all what counts.
 
Then I decided to check rumors of Magnolia’s demise, jumped on songtaew and went there.
Sadly true, Magnolia is gone , gay flag on the fence replaced with sign ’’ room for rent”. It was classiest massage place in PTY and massages there were always 5 stars although personally I had some reservation about boys moving to stage two too fast but I miss the place. Probably location was too removed from the mainstream gay areas and did not have enough custom. RIP Magnolia.
 
Motorsai to the hotel, dinner there , some internet and decided to get acquainted with handsome masseur I spied during dinner at Ambiance’s Body club right across the soi. 
The same like Copa – 400 for the house , 500 for  the boy collected  up front and ‘ it will
be more if we have more” and we had, good English and conversation as a bonus, boy expressed an interest in long time which I ‘d consider but told him that likely I’m already set for a night having #99  in mind.
 
We finished in time for BBB singing and clapping , still did not see Bank there, in meantime I was subject of adoration by my yesterday’s Copa masseur although I told him early that I had 2 massages already today and that’s enough. Wanted drink , told him that  he needs money more and slipped him 100 baht , in meantime his persistence paid  off as he stopped passerby and extracted massage contract from him  to my relief so I could watch boys singing and flexing undisturbed.
 
Then bar hopping, first Funny boys. Using Christian advice I switched to hot tea which my body absorbs very well opposite to third or fourth beer. About 10 boys and as many clients, few boys acceptable but since I was fixated I did not even try to have anybody sitting with me . Finished tea and  bag of nuts provided and in time for XBOYS show I moved there.
 
May be dozen patrons, show standard to a degree , boy with silicone monster still participating in big cock show, music 500 decibels too loud , BBoys with their gyrations entertaining as always and after a while boy with sign ‘ NO PHOTO” marched across the scene- sign of things to come, namely full on f***k show with bottom being pretty manly specimen. As usual still coupled boys circulated an audience and collection quite a bit , in fact all patrons contributed , may be I missed one but no more.
 
If not a loud music , quite a bar ! Then trip back to soi 3 for ToyBoys. 20-30 boys on stage and sitting around it with pretty frequent rotation , one I offed last Dec with perfect, photoshoped-like  skin recognized me and suggested we go together but me still fixated on #99 declined politely using 100 baht note. Certainly a lot of hiring material in that bar.
 
Then to BoyzBoyzBoyz, bar crowded behind capacity with patrons and so was stage with boys. Had a drink , exchanged few jokes and smiles with boys from yesterday and again slipped 100 baht in # 41 briefs not knowing where it will lead.
Time to fix my fixation with #99 as it was getting late, marched to ABOMB but disappointment there, mamasan told me right away that he did not come to work today. I realized  my mistake of not securing his presence in the morning.
 
 
Saturated with drinks in so many bars I bought drink for mamasan so bar has something from me, ogled boys on the stage, slipped 100 to most attractive but decided my masseur from Ambiance today was even  more attractive.  I went there just to discover that  only one masseur left on duty  but it was not him.
Things start looking desperate, for a second I’m thinking about going across the soi and taking Mr. Perfect Skin from Toy Boys but passing Guardian Angel reminds me that I already put twice my had in undies of #41 at BBB  and he not only has beautiful body but somber face of aspiring axe  murderer I so adore so back to BoyzBoyzBoyz hoping it will work.
 
 
Boy still on stage, mamasan standing  right beside me , bring him over and litany  starts , how are you? where you are from? do you want a drink? you want go with me? Yes, I want long time till breakfast ? Yes / yes. Yes , yes ! / , how much you want? 5000, noooou, 3000 ? 3500? I pay 3000, OK, finish drink , change shirt and we are on the soi. Are you hungry, just a bit , I buy something at Family Mart, lets go I will buy you something.
It was some cheap sandwich , strange contrast with 5000 demand just few minutes ago.
 
From there things are going uphill. Second night in row I’m in paradise , is Pattaya becoming new Bangkok for me? Lottery won already and 500 baht bonus visibly needs to be paid before we even open can of beer.
I always praise BBB bar as best in Thailand and now have feeling that bar’s Guardian Angel sent his best as a ‘thank you ‘ token . Great end of day 8, Win Win situation / boy’s name is Win /

Day 7
 
 
In the morning he was sleepy and I was hungry so I left him in bed and went to Foodland Patpong for  a breakfast with Xiluzer, our last meeting since I’m going to Pattaya today and he is going home tomorrow. He was my inspiration for this trip , when we were parting our ways in May  he said he feels we will meet again this year and it happened. Great friend and company  because we share the same taste although surprisingly perhaps very rarely we off the same boys.
 
There’s always something which makes him to pick A and me to choose B. thank you xiluzer and again hope our paths will cross soon somewhere between Hero, Jupiter and Tawan.
Upon return to the room I just couldn’t just let Boy to sleep so started some ministrations and it was plainly visible he liked it. Not far from noon he left, I packed and went to Ekkamai by BTS.
 
 It was smooth sailing , when approaching bus station I noticed that Pattaya van is ready to leave waiting for lights change but they had one seat free , door opened, I jumped and we were on the way. 130 baht  but I was dropped on the Bitch Road / I know the spelling, relax/ at mouths of Pattayaland, just steps from Le Café Royale. Dropped suitcase and went back to Beach Road where German restaurant serves great Wiener Schnitzel with all trimmings  so I had my fill.
 
Returning to the hotel I was stopped almost by force by a short and stocky  , muscular Copa masseur who suggested his services right away and I agreed although it’s against the book to have massages after sumptuous meal. 400 for the house and 500 for the boy payable up front which is Boyztown standard  but suggestion came that if we have more tip should be more. I nod knowingly and so they winked.
 
 Boy was very enthusiastic and massage was very strong which is my preference, I’m not  a cat to be caressed after all so an additional 500 was earned and I left  mutilated yet happy.  Short tour of Boyztown to see what changed since May / nothing other than new faces in massages / and half past 8 I had a sit at Copa bar , ordered beer for myself and coke for my new friend the masseur and we were waiting for BBB boys to start their spectacle.
 
I was also eyeing if Bank, my quasi boyfriend  from May trip   will show up but did not spot him. At 9 flag waving , clapping and singing started , many familiar faces at BBB but quite  a few new ones as well.  After it ended I decided to check ABomb and what a great idea it was.
 
Several boys on stage , they have wasteful rotation system where only 8 boys are on the  podium at any time and every so often one steps down and another one climbs up. Bar is known for  manly  types in the buff  but not really bodybuilders  but immediately I noticed shining star. #99 , pretty diminutive boy with bodybuilders posture, take Schwartzeneger, divide him by half everywhere and you get an idea. 
 
  It’s not me who is wasting time on such  a sight so boy was waved over , treated with drink, Cambodian, 23, good English, kissing yes , long time yes , today yes, sealed, off fee paid  and told him I will pick him up after BBB show.
 
BBB was packed with both boys and customers, Bank was not here, I asked , they said he did not show up today but still shows up from time to time, either he has sponsor or is freelancer or both. Somehow  they found me a spot in the second row in front of stage and I caused a bit of sensation as I had piece of paper with numbers, clever boy noticed it and said that I’m prepared with boys   metrics. In fact I was.
 
Ever since I knew I will be coming whenever somebody mentioned number of boy he likes or doesn’t I wrote it down with short symbol who is recommending and why. Just wanted to see what other people like . Quite a few numbers were present but they did not shine that much for me. Nevertheless  boys and me with my list had lots of fun as they were trying to spy what I have there and I pretended to keep it top secret, several twenties were distributed and even 10 baht coin landed in some underwear.
 
 
 
For me BOYZBOYZ BOYZ has  the best show and line  up in Thailand , no change here. I guess I could be week in PTY and not to go anywhere else and still will be happy. Show at times was wall to wall cocks. BBoys  were fantastic with their break dance show. And after show stage filled above that capacity with dozens of handsome boys with all types  available. But my heart was already somewhere else as we know and no change of mind.
I liked #41 standing in the back , one of those manly faced musculars so he got my departing 100 into his briefs.
Who knows what future brings.
 
Went to Abomb, picked my boy, he wanted something to eat from 7/11 and scored even more points because asked to buy him tooth brush but I did not because I always have 1-2 spares for  a visiting dignitaries so assured him I had one for him
 
 5  star  stretch continued to this night and even better , in the morning I discovered that he likes morning gymnastics even more, just like me.  There was no doubt in my mind  who will be my next night companion but old fool I made mistake of keeping it to myself. And day 7 was over. 

Day 6
 
Ever since I arrived, in between all this whoring quietly but regularly e-mails were circulating between ChristianPFC and me since I always report my arrival and ask  him  for a bit of his time for either bar hopping , dinner or both. This time he suggested some tourist program and we settled on Tuesday trip to the woods and canals on outskirts of Bangkok.
 
 
He found some community based program visiting farms , orchid plantations and canals on Thonburi side of universe. I found that Xiluzer is interested to join, then z909 arrived and I suggested he will go with us as well, Christian invited Bruceny, shortly speaking on Tuesday morning  whole pack of 5 forum members plus extremely handsome local companion of one of us  congregated on the platform 7 waiting for train 261 to depart with ridiculously cheap 9 and 14 baht tickets to Wat Suwan on Bkk – Hua Hin line. After 1 hr we found ourselves in  rural Thailand.
 
Short walk to the canal where 2 boats each holding 3 people  were hired for 190 baht each and  off we went  for tour of canals , ponds , fields and orchid farms  . Perfect weather and company –we had fun and a nice break from big city not that far away. We had lunch in a local restaurant, tried  and purchased locally produced snacks, rented tractor for 80 baht to give us tour around the farm and even purchased locally produced ginger wine of dubious taste but great novelty value. 
 
some pictures below including handsome guy in now ubiquitous yellow / blue shirt
 

 
 
Not being big fan of nature- I prefer cities and ruins over fields and forests nevertheless I enjoyed it immensely. Nice break from big city life. When trip was over Z909, Christian and me decided on Christian suggestion to take a local bus to a park commemorating 2500 years of Buddhism in Thailand .
Vast expanse of greenery with several temples and pavilions, quiet and to a degree serene and owing to a distance from central Bangkok very unutilized.
 
Late afternoon we took taxi back to  a civilization and 260 baht later we were back at Silom where all those fumes immediately eliminated headache caused by all this fresh air I was breathing whole day. Today again Senso on the schedule so after refreshing myself in the hotel I was  heading there hoping M I promised on Sunday to return for will be there. And  he was .
 
 
I decided to splurge and took VIP room for 1500 for 1.5 hr course. After providing him with some hints   he actually recalled our last meeting year ago and off we went for massage and rest of liturgy. His massage  skills are one of best I had pleasure to utilize but today we both were in more amorous than business mode so massage was less stressed  and afters more.
 
Clearly this trip,  Senso does it for me, expensive but I like it and this is all what counts.
 In M ‘s arms I forgot that at 9 we have dinner with Christian at Madrid restaurant in Patpong and actually part of way I was running to amusement of passerby’s and still was late 10 minutes, my apologies Christian again.
 
As usual tasty food and conversation  but no bar hopping together tonight because yesterday I booked Boy for 10 p.m. return to my room and was quite curious to see if he shows up and when. Farang was late for the dinner with his friend but to my amazement at 9.59 I heard noise on stairs and second later knock into door.
 
So much for those who doubt Thai boys can’t be on time. Another 5 star experience , we did not even waste energy and   time on drinking and talking , just hit the sheets right away after shower and brushing teeth about which I was sternly reminded ‘we don’t kiss now, clean teeth first”.
 
 
Certainly  Boy knows  what he wants and this time he repeated his yesterday’s  mantra “ I want sleep wit you” again to my great joy.
 
At midnight I left him alone, dressed in now famous yellow/ blue polo shirt and went to soi twilight around the corner to meet another forum member paulsf. He was sitting at Hot Male downstairs as planned , I was dressed in shirt as described so recognizing each other was easy and immediate.
 
We agreed on meeting when I return from Pattaya ,exchanged latest news  and I returned to my Boy who was soundly asleep but when I joined him under the sheets  I still received strong and long welcome back hug.
 
And  this was how day 6 ended. 
 

Day 3
 
In the morning I was anxious to find out from Xiluzer  how it went yesterday at Screwboys, all three of us met in the breakfast room and I asked him right away.
 
It turned out I was right, girls only wanted to talk so he outwaited them and took boy with him.
This is where good news finished since while his face and body was impressive , attitude and service was not so and when he revealed than now he works at Prince but before he was in Jupiter I kind started recall why he seemed familiar somewhat.
 
Anyways, Xiluzer said  he was trying to rush things and extract an additional compensation, shortly , one of those artificial stars shining until approached.
Breakfast at Raya is serious affair with decent variety of Farang and Asian offerings with few soups and hot dishes offered on top of usual breakfast fare. My boy was dining with us with no brews raised.
 
Xiluzer and me decided to go together to Chatuchak in about 1.5 hr. , when returned to the room instead of sending Od home I somehow got a bit heated and we went for an additional session to enjoyment of him – he got additional 1000 and mine. I like that attitude ‘ if you happy I happy” he verbalized. When time came , gave him 100 baht for taxi / my idea, unnecessary spoiling him I guess /  , he went his way and we took MRT to the market.
 
As expected after few hours of wandering we lost each other but we agreed beforehand that if it happens we won’t be wasting time looking for each other , agreeing for evening trip to Prince in any case.
I’m not big fan of Chatuchak and of retail therapy but bought shirt, wallet , shoes and massage oil and since if was not that hot I actually enjoyed that market probably first time ever.
 
Returned home alone and since it was pretty early I decided to go to Hero.
 
On my way there checked if Banana is still in the soi, it was. At Hero quite surprisingly for a Saturday afternoon in high season only 2 or 3 other clients. Usual assortment of boys flexing and smiling behind the glass  , did not notice familiar faces but no shortage of hunks to choose from so I picked up one of the smiling ones for 1 hr. course.     
 
Well , in 20 minutes massage was over , boy was speeding up for a second part and I’m not Speedy Gonzales nor like ones so it was not particularly memorable experience for me, just ordinary for minimum tip of 1000 but no more. Had supper in their restaurant , good and cheap fare with full view of boys behind the glass, this alone worth of trek there.
 
 Just bit disappointed and undermassaged but well fed returned to Raya and shortly after Xiluzer and  me were sitting in the taxi heading to Prince exchanging news from the day.
Prince was busier than Hero and Xiluzer who visited both places in the summer confirmed that it was a case then as well. Time will show if this is just coincidence or we are seeing some trend here. Not that I saw much of difference , the same  – lots of boys behind the glass but none at whom my heart jumped right away.
 
 
Xiluzer’s last night stand from Screwboys was there as well and looking at him partially undressed I suddenly solved a puzzle why he  looked a bit familiar. This is the boy I took from Jupiter on my last day of my May 2013 trip who was great looking but of sandbag quality , one who had nerve of telling me he needs to leave earlier because he is tired and still ask for taxi money which he did not get. While he was standing out by the looks and smiling warmly neither of us for reason described above   was interested.
 
 
I choose Guy, who looks like half black and probably is, in the room I asked him if he had African ancestors , he just smiled. He is familiar face because before he was one of Senso stars and received plenty of  excellent reviews on various forums but our encounter was just ordinary experience , while massage part itself was  good somehow chemistry was missing which is nobody’s fault , it just happens from time to time.
 
 
Second massage today, both in famous places and nothing to write to grandmother about. What’s even more important it was not last unmemorable  thing  today but day  ended nevertheless with big bang so one never losing hope is right !
 
I was waiting for Xiluzer about 10 minutes and in that time no less than 7 clients showed up, all Asians, all much younger than me which bodes well for the trade in Thailand I guess.
 
Xiluzer appeared  very happy with his choice, we had our drinks watching proceedings and were both surprised and a bit vindicated that our Screwboys/Jupiter boy, even if probably best looking behind the glass was still there even with all that traffic.
 
We had nice stroll to the Foodland Patpong where we caught light meals and decided to explore show at Dreamboys.
 
As one could expect on Saturday night , house was packed but somehow we were offered first row seats. Visiting bars with somebody has not only advantage of having company and option of discussing boys virtues   but also keeps mamasans away as they can be told that we are boyfriends to make easier for them to lose all hope.
 
I was kind of always justifying their higher prices by quality of the show and what’s more important boys at the stage. Even on this forum is recorded that on one visit I found all boys with exception of 1 worth offing. Yo, one of my best ever was from there.
 
Well , not today.  I liked the show, blend of old and new numbers, one of most funny for an audience was when ladyboys took young Japanese looking boy from the first row and almost undressed him. I’m not sure he was so amused but was playing along well and had a body / and underwear / to show, that’s sure.
 
As for boys presented many of our members  would be thrilled with all those twinks but there was not even one I could slip my customary 100 baht departure tip for best looking boy. So no way I will pay 600 off  fee there said I , Xiluzer agreed even more and left the bar before show even finished.
 
So third night in row trek to Tawan to look for consolation. And I found one immediately, one of the boys on stage was Tiger, one of their Lao boys I so like. I had him sitting with me in May and had my sights on him even if reported by one of our reader that he was one of those who like fast dead and go.
 
Good I did not got discouraged – that was not my experience at all  
Great body and as a bonus hairstyle I like / spiky hair /, showed accommodating attitude / I asked how much he wants as I always do and he said up to you/ , only disappointment was he did not want / could do long time but I decided to yield , he promised at least 2 hrs of time together.  Soon we were seen on Suriwong  marching to the hotel.
Great man , great body , great massage , great attitude. Great you name it. Did I mention good kisser?
 
 He could do long time tomorrow but I have somebody already lined up  but suggested  he can come for another short time at 5 pm , he agreed  but I warned him I will be waiting ½ hr only and if he doesn’t show up I’ll be gone. So after mutilating me I was left to sleep alone tonight but no harm done, I slept like  a baby.
 
Did not even think that’s it not over until it’s over. Two ordinary massages, not an eye candy in sight at Dreamboys and still day 3 finished on 5 + stars accord, thank you Tiger, thank you Tawan.   

I had, but how sincere answers were  no way of telling, some boys say 'both', some even :  ' I don't know'.
 
Sometimes on subsequent encounter answer changes, I presume they know me better and give more honest answer. After all it's hard to  to imagine  boy saying "I don't like boys" on the first meeting. The same goes with top/bottom question , they get to know us better more open they become.
 
Since we both like the same types and even literally the same boys chances that they are 'gay for pay ' variety are  great but I like them - they know they need to try better and they do. Some of the greatest kissers are  boys who answer 'only girls , only top', no idea how it works but i know one thing -it works for me

Day 2
 
Thank you for all the ‘likes’ I received for  a 1st day report, I think could be better written but on return I caught some cold and feel like used chewing gum at the moment so did not have energy to polish what I have written.
Those who follow my adventures here know that I like to change hotels every 2-3 nights and true to form after Bos left I went downstairs to get some breakfast.
 
It’s not big affair at Nantra but still one can get filled on toast , cereal , some fruit and tea / coffee. Then packed and rolled my suitcase down Suriwong to Raya, my first time there. Hotel is located just next to soi Twilight so location is very strategic and itself is an luxury affair with matching prices. In exchange for 85 $ prepaid back in June  I got room of size of small apartment with a view , modern glassed  bathroom , separate sitting area , two beds, big and small and even personalized wi-fi password unique to the room.
 
Worth the  splurge and sometimes good deals can be had on Agoda. Again I credit Xiluzer for an inspiration since he discovered that place for his previous trip and was kind enough to show  me his room then. I’m not big on spending money on accommodation I spent so little time in but Raya was good value for me feeling more at home than at hotel chiefly due to a size of the room.
 
Reception is on 5 th floor, only one with public access. Access to other floors is with the card only and it means that if you are bringing your guest to say, floor 7 room you are bypassing reception altogether and nobody knows who you are whoring, er discussing world affairs with.
 
Only thing I found odd  was that safety deposit box while hidden well in the closet is not bolted and can be removed by anybody , good luck with that as it was quite heavy and rest assured,   not that my money added to it’s weight.
 
Another thing less likable was that they did not permit to check in early as room was not released yet so I left my luggage with reception , received proper tags for it and went to realize tourist program to kill the waiting time. Namely I decided to visit Golden Mount temple.
BTS to National Stadium , then short walk to Saen Saep canal, one with regular boat service , boat arrived in few minutes and after 4 stops  we were at the end of line, short fun for 8 baht.
 
From there it’s easy 10 minutes walk  to Golden Mount, only hill of any size in the Bangkok topped with a stupa where nice panorama of the city  can be seen and today air was pretty  clear so view was quite fine. Entry was 20 baht and I recommend that visit to anybody, easy and cheap fun.
 
On return I stepped out on the first stop to explore Talat market which is right on the canal’s bank  and it’s of very manageable size. Since this is local affair prices are lower than in both Chatuchak and Silom / Sukhumvit ghetto. I treated myself by spending 100 baht on pocketed yellow / blue polo shirt with now ubiquitous in BKK motive of “Bike for Dad”, embroided , not printed. It seems half of the city is wearing those shirts so I blended in nicely.
 
Gee, so much reading and  no boy in sight so far.
 
Upon return to the hotel I actually felled to blend of luxury and jet lag and felled asleep for good 4 hours, shame on me I slept alone with such a proximity of soi Twilight .
Early evening marching to Senso, few boys on duty , as usual there all of them acceptable hunks , few familiar faces, few new, I took Nice who got good reports from some readers here  and true to the form he turned out to be really nice, 1300 for the house , 1500 to the boy , worth every penny as far as I can see.
 
 
Then straight to Oasis on Suriwong for my first treat of my favorite chicken with cashew nuts, their version I consider best of them all although today something was missing, not sure what, may be just fact that I was dining alone –rare there for me as this is my usual boy dragging place when I ask them if they want to eat.
Later on  I met Xiluzer who is at Raya as well for a trip to Screwboys just in time for their show.
 
 
My favorite from last Dec trip – One left for good , mamasan even  remember me being fond of him and greeted me at the door stating that One is gone. Had another boy sitting with me just for  a fun, one who was my off in May. Bought him drink and slipped red note in his briefs but for a night I had my sights somewhere else. When we were ready to go then another boy appeared, even if fully dressed he looked very , very yummy. After short while he was grabbed by two ladies sitting in the back to great xiluzer’s  disappointment as he clearly   had his sights on him. Wisely,  as it turned later,  I advised him to wait a bit as see if girls will take the boy , left him there and marched to Tawan  to find somebody to cling to at night.
 
 
Show was over but not entirely. As usual few boys were flexing at the stage  and in front row farang couple in late 30 ties /early 40 ties  were sitting with lady having her legs raised quite a bit and I guess showing her jewels to the boys on the stage. It did not take long before one of them volunteered to step down and try his fingers there. 
 
Things were heated very fast and not before long he was fisting her in full view of audience, then evenly split between excited and curious and disgusted and disinterested. But live porn is was although before I left Tawan boy did not use his real tool yet.
 
How is ended  no idea because during all this I got reacquainted with Od#14, one I offed three times in May and decided to take him  again.
 
Great company even if his answer to my usual question ‘do you like boys or girls better” was
‘’I don’t like boys”, well may be but definitely we both liked each other. Not first time I found I have good treatment from the ‘gay for pay ‘ sector.
And this is how second day finished.

After trip in May I did not plan another one this year  but got an inspiration from one of our members – Xiluzer and since very attractive fare came my way  I found myself landing  at 1. 50 in the morning at Swampy again.
 
This is my 12 trip and I never saw such a long line to immigration at BKK aiport. Fortunately they were well stuffed and line moved surprisingly fast. Down to the public taxi stand and in 20 odd minutes I was in Silom already. Both highway and streets completely deserted. Includin tip nad airport surcharge it cost me 360 + 70 baht for tolls.
 
Since night was supposed to be short one I  booked  cheapest room at Nantra Silom but they upgraded me at no charge to more spacious one, not that I resisted.
As always when arriving that late I had my customary stroll through Patpong , Suriwong , soi Twilight and soi 6 but no freelancers , no bar boys lingering somewhere, just empty streets.
Very early  breakfast at Foodland Patpong and few hours of sleep. In the morning another breakfast at the hotel – very , very basic one and I went for stroll to Lumpini Park hoping to catch glimpse of big lizards not to mention  sweaty boys pumping iron at the gym. And a bingo !
Who was there  right at front – Sokchai, my favorite masseur from Bonny Massage. Did not waste time weather talking – learned he will be at his work place  in 2 hours I made sure I was there. Great massage and afters including some fun in the shower- no other clients at the place that early. 800 for the house for 1.5 hr treatment  and 1500 for a boy.
After long absence I always feel undermassaged so next step was hop in BTS and trip to Banana to see if they are still in the old soi 11 place. Yes but I was told by the guy filling for the owner  that move is to be made any day. My regular  there  Tao was present so I requested 2 hr. course which they don’t offer, suggestion was made to take 2 time 1 hr. courses but at 650 / hr it seemed expensive so I offered 1000 for 2 hr to the shop and deal was sealed. Massaage by Tao is by some mile best of them all. He was trained at Wat Po and it shows, on top of this he is polite yet adventurous , good conversationalist but never lets my wandering hands to detract him from the task. Great body too and thanks God he stopped shaving  his pubes which was only thing I hold against him in the past.
Couldn’t go home easily as it was heavily raining  but after ½ waiting it finally stopped and I could walk to BTS Nana. Did not want to be late because at 9.00 I was supposed to meet  Xiluzer , my inspiration for a trip at Jupiter.
At thet hour bar was not crowded , boys as usual looking with #60 looking best but I remember warning that he is fond of rushing things and on demanding side so neither of us entertained option of offing him . Danger of bar hopping with Xiluzer is that we like exactly the same types but so far avoided fights over picking up the same man.
Then we went to Tawan, bar I ignored  for years  but now my favorite by the mile. We caught  some  show, # 14 which I offed 3 times in May was in one of numbers but hidden behind sunglasses , I did not spot him but surely he did. For  a first night  I hoped to off # 15, Boy , one of their smallest men but he was absent  for some time,  apparently went home to Laos.
But new star, young but pretty massive Bos # 23 caught my eye, waved him over, he agreed to the long time till 6.30 and shortly Xiluzer was marching home with his big  boy   and I in opposite direction with my newly found treasure. Great company for a first night – good sign for the whole trip as it showed at her end.
In the morning asked for taxi money which I don’t like  but on another hand I treat my boys with breakfast but he wanted to go home  right away so I gave him that bonus, need to be said, well deserved. And so day 1 was over

The water show at the Copa in Pattaya is absolutely stunning. I have been there at least 3 to 4 times a week. The show is something different and very beautiful. I hope you will enjoy it and don't forget to tip the swimmers!!!-(smile)

If the older guy in the OP accepts that it is his 'Good Heart' (and open wallet) that his boy loves then perhaps all is well.
 
I am older, overweight and decidedly not a 'hansum man'
 
My little cherub is primarily interested in my wallet, I know that.
 
I am primarily interested in using and abusing his body, he knows that.
 
As long as we can each accept that it may yet prove a mutually convenient 'match made in heaven' LOL

If the older guy in the OP accepts that it is his 'Good Heart' (and open wallet) that his boy loves then perhaps all is well.
 
I am older, overweight and decidedly not a 'hansum man'
 
My little cherub is primarily interested in my wallet, I know that.
 
I am primarily interested in using and abusing his body, he knows that.
 
As long as we can each accept that it may yet prove a mutually convenient 'match made in heaven' LOL

The other night while enjoying drinks at Serene, several Russians came in and squeezed into the already crowded bar. Two of the Russian guys were quite handsome. The Russians smiled and said something to me. I smiled back with no idea what was said. Apparently they thought I was Russian; this happens a lot especially on the buses going to Jomtien, but no Russian blood here. O.k. I digress.
 
Sitting at the table immediately to my right was a much older man and his young Thai companion. The young Thai boy was really carried away by two of the cute Russians because he was constantly starring at them.
The older man said something to the Thai boy and he replied: "I like, beautiful". A few minutes later the older man said something else to his young Thai companion, who was still starring and smiling at the two Russians. The Thai boy said aloud: "very beautiful, you not so beautiful but have beautiful heart, I like you". Oh my gosh, did he really say that?????
 
Almost immediately the older man paid the bill and got up to leave with the young Thai boy in tow. As they left, the Thai boy laid his right hand on the shoulder of one of the Russians and kept looking back and smiling at him. The Russian did not respond one way or another. As he walked off, the Thai boy continued looking back and smiling at the Russians who never responded. That kid had some balls on him. Oops, I need another expression because the Thai boy was quite effeminate - lol. Life in Thailand can be quite interesting, to say the least.

It's not what you think! It is his pouch and not his junk hanging there.
 

Great looking catch that Serene boy, true eye candy.
 
I'm surprised he is dressed so warmly - may be flu is not over or you guys had a spell of cold weather?
Hope he was cured last night in your warm embrace !
 
Thank you for enlightening us on ping-pong scheme at BBB, sure it's better to place that 100 in boy's briefs than going 50/50 with the bar.
 
Don't take Fossil's comment as directed at you, he said clearly that his comment is about farangs he knows.
 
Keep reporting , you are doing very well like colmx mentioned above.
 
He has a point with all those other places but I see also your point of camping at BBB every night - line up , show and general friendliness of both boys and staff  are making it best bar in Thailand in my not so humble opinion.

I don't think that there is any set format for TRs; on the other forum I post on there is a wide range - different formats, different styles and, of course, wildly different content.
 
I write, fundamentally for my own future benefit, but of course I get a kick when others appreciate my efforts - who wouldn't. In my home and professional life I write extensively, but mostly pretty dry (and boring) reports or academic stuff - at least with my TRs I have the freedom to write in what I hope is an entertaining way - and actually I really enjoy the opportunity of doing so.

Another unbelievably ridiculous observation !   Hundreds maybe (thousands) of photos here in various Forums and their Threads.
 
There is exactly 1 thread with photos of Lady or Ladyboys.
 
Certainly easy not to click on that thread if it offends you!!!

My advice would be 'don't sweat the small stuff', and 'keep smiling at all times',
 
I have seen guys arguing over 50-100 baht 'short change' or non receipt of change. I have seen guys get all worked up if a Thai pushes to the front in the queue at the 7/11. Etc. etc. etc.
 
IMHO why spoil your day over the small stuff - just smile and move-on.

My advice would be 'don't sweat the small stuff', and 'keep smiling at all times',
 
I have seen guys arguing over 50-100 baht 'short change' or non receipt of change. I have seen guys get all worked up if a Thai pushes to the front in the queue at the 7/11. Etc. etc. etc.
 
IMHO why spoil your day over the small stuff - just smile and move-on.