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nothing rude, call boy over( preferred for me) or ask mamasan to call him for you , buy him a drink , have small talk and then decide to off him or send him back with small tip 100-200 for his time. It happens all the time  and boys are used to it, some even may collect more from those small tips on good night  than short time tip.
If you see there's no chemistry , cut your loses and send guy back, pity off doesn't make sense for either one. The same if you like boy but you sense that he is somewhat reluctant, doesn't engage you , looks at the stage , not at you , sits stiff etc. Sure sign he is not keen - chalk it off to experience and start looking for a next prey.
As for ' get  a feel" , in some bars you may take it literally  and check the goods , in other it may be out of bounds so don't be too forthcoming until you get a feel of the place so to speak.
 

The best place for coffee is in the kitchen with someone special on a hot afternoon. 

yes , even more boys/men and temples

I use the fast lanes the last couple of years that i quality by age. Never had to wait on arrivals, late morning or early afternoon, but there is a que at departure close to midnight, but not long wait.

Judging by the fact that all boys I ever dealt with in Thailand knew what 'long time ' means,  my educated guess will be that 'long time' in Thai is, well , " long time"

I woke up a bit early today maybe 9 or 10am. Decided to head to dongtan beach today and finally had a rest on one of the beach chair. Its lovely weather today, not so many people around. Its the new year and im pretty sure the aftermath of last night party still in progress. I walked along the beach all the way to the end and make my way back to find masseur that id like to take, found one, asked and he said he had bookings lined up already. So i chose to sit in one of the small chair (40bht) and rest under the shades, with gentle breeze from the ocean and shirtless men (some tourist does have great bodies lol). Soon after, one masseur approached me, called by the previous masseur i wanted to take, and offer his service. Took foot massage for 300 1 hour. I wasnt wearing swimsuit, just my usual track and shirt, and the masseur suggested for me to remove the pants. I only wear my brief for the massage in the open lol, but i guess its alright. The massage was decent and very relaxing indeed. Instead of aircond and sofa, with massage music, i am treated to a lazy chair, ocean breeze, sounds from the waves crushing the beach, and of course the view lol. Definitely something unique for me, or maybe i havent been to enough beach that have this kind of setup. I asked the masseur what time do most masseur usually come, and he says starting 10am onwards, but today, many of them late due to last night party. This is something i can get used to, and good enough reason for me to choose to stay in jomtien vs boystown especially seongthaw is easy ride between the two place. 
Watched the clock and its almost noon. Checked with my afternoon guy, by wechat, no response, but yesterday he did gives me his phone number and asked me to call. So i called him and he told me he wanted to shower and eat before coming to my hotel, and he will let me know when. Asked if he wanted to eat lunch with me, he said he had food from yesterday (buffet from BBB i suppose) and he dont want it to go to waste. He definitely already score high in my book, the only two boys this trip who can converse english good enough to hold conversation and phone calls, and dont like wasting food. So i had my lunch alone in one of the thai restaurant at jomtien beach road, and head back to the hotel to clean up and rest, wating for the boy. He then called me and said he is otw and 20min later, told me he is in the lobby. I headed out to pick him up to my room. Similar comments about the nice pool and the spacious rooms. We started at the living room with the casual chat to get to know each other. Then he asked if we wanted to go to the bedroom, which he then asked to go to the shower. I had already showered so he go in alone. He went out with just towels and hopped in the bed. We chat a bit more before things got steamy. 
I heard from a forumer before, that this guy can gives great massage so i asked him if he can do that first. And he says yes. Definitely will put his massage skills above average, nothing sensual, and his hands is a bit rough with callous from working out but i really didnt mind that, since he knows how to massage properly, and his hand is big that i felt his massage almost envelope my not so small body too at times. It lasted maybe 40min or so, another plus in my book. I also asked if i can massage his body as well and he said yes, though i didnt massage him that long, before we proceed to something else haha. Anyway, the whole thing lasted 2 hour or so, we then shower together, and he gets ready to leave, started to put on cloth.
I felt that i wanted to know him more, so i went close to him and asked if he could stay longer. At first he said he wanted to go to the gym, then i told what i wanted to do if he stays, mostly cuddling with chatting, so he asked how long, i told him 2 hours and ill pay tips too. He agrees and there goes all of his clothes again, undressing in front of me, and i already felt money well spent haha. We got back to the bed, and i open the tv, and we chatted. I told him about some boys i know in bbb, asked about why most people there where shirts, and told him about a friend who couldnt find him in bbb the last time he was there in oct. He said bbb bew bosses policy that changes the bar to how it is now. Thus most boy now had to dress decently. Its now own by three thai bosses (not sure if all 3 are thai or not). He also told me the first guy i off, his doesnt really speak english, which explains why he cant tell me the reason he cannot go long time yesterday. 
Now on to the reason why he was absent from BBB for a while. He told me, he had has customers who likes to take him to their own countries, he mentioned singapore and china. Anyway, at some points, this happens a bit too often that the BBB boss is angry at him for now being around in the bar, even when they pay off fee. After he came back from being away too long, the boss told him he cannot work anymore. So he cant go to bbb for close to 4 month, and he told he just got back to work in BBB 1month. My guess is its the high season and boss want the bars filled with boys and he finally agree to bring him back but not without him having to pay quite a heftt penalty as well. I know that most gogo bars practice something similar to ensure the bar will have enough boys around to give ensure the bars also earn money from customers drinks/entrance. Its just the things that gogoboys have to deal with, and i guess one of the reasons why some boys choose to work in a different bars instead, to avoid paying penalty to go back to same bar. 
We also talked about yesterday countdown. I showed him my video of the balihai fireworks, and he showed me BT countdown video he had. The two hours passed by rather quickly and soon  i have to say good bye. I wished i had met him earlier but the two days ive been to BBB, he wasnt around, and he told me because he went to Bangkok with a customer. He came back for the new year party because again, if boys didnt show up, they will have to pay penalty to bars. That explains the huge number of boys still in boyz music even at 2am. Owh, his mom also called him when he was there, and he excused himself for few mins to talk in the living room. He said he havent been back home more than a year already. I also got to know how he enter the scene, since he said he used to work as engineer before (explains his good english) but one of his friends told him how to get money quicker and faster and thats how he got into working in the bar. He is definitely one ill be looking forward to meet again when im in pattaya.
I checked with z909 after the guy left my room, and see if he wanted to meet for coffee if he is still in jomtien, and he said he just got back at his room. So i get dressed and head out to the beach area to buy dinner at one of the street stalls, chicken and rice, and some roti with fruits, and eat my dinner at the room. In few hours, my longtime copa masseur will come to my room. 

The truth is that business currently is the langage that most speak for business matters. However, that is changing and Chinese will become that language in the future. We a native English speaker, I am happy I can be understood most places I go but I never get upset when I can't be understood.  And, people who travel and EXPECT others to speak English are fools.

I choose Sunday to go to Pattaya as the opinion here is that there is less traffic midday Sunday than other days. Good advice, 90 minutes with no problems.
The driver arranged with Poseidon hotel in Jomtien was there early and that pleased me enormously and raised my expectations for the trip.
Rather than recount each day let me break this down to its constituent parts.      
The Poseidon:
I had never been to Jomtien but was convinced to try it as well as this Gay hotel. Well, it's outstanding. Very nice, attentive service and nice rooms. The restaurant is just fantastic. For the first time on a visit to Thailand, I ate western food as the chief here is wonderful. The menu is fairly short and German/Austrian and perfectly prepared. The Schnitzel is on the menu as "pork schnitzel" not pretending to be true Wiener Schnitzel as this is always made with veal. But, as family connections affirm most Vienesse make it with pork as it is far cheaper. The menu is entirely in that vein even offering the famous Berliner currywurst.
Breakfast is ala Cart I always chose bread basket ( all the bread here is wonderful ) augmenting with eggs, bacon, sausage. etc. Here I must mention that the breakfast sausage is a true breakfast sausage, not some sad hot dog abomination ( my apologies to hot dog lovers. I love a good ballpark or a true wienerwurst too, but it has no place on the breakfast table ) and the coffee is good.
I'll mention Dick's here as it is the only other place I ate. Dick's is the same in Jomtien as it was in Bangkok even down to the service tableware. The food is good and because the Poseidon does not serve lunch this was my place for a late lunch and afternoon tea.
Grab:
While this app was wonderful in Bangkok it was just evil in Pattaya. Not the app, of course, but the drivers. I tried several times but let me give just one cogent example: I wanted to go to Tukom. I typed in to pick up at the Poseidon and destination Tukom. 
The driver arrived promptly, tracked by the app, he drove to the general area of Tukcom with help of google and ended up circling a parking garage two blocks from Tukom and wondering how to get in past the pay gate. I got out after a fruitless no English-no Thai conversation and walked.
So, I ask. Would you not expect someone making his living driving in Pattaya be able to find a large shopping center in his own town?
more later.

After a fun evening with Mr. Scewboy, truly a doll and finely made. Next morning I feast   ( facetiously ) on the smallish breakfast at Tarntawan; Making a mental note that there is a large hotel across the street where I could buy a better breakfast. Perhaps next trip, the omelet is not that bad.
This day is dedicated to the newish Ganymede spa recommended by the estimable Divine Madman. To get there I use my new T-mobile phone and data plan ( recommended to me by this board ) and make my first use of Grab, recommended by Paulsf. Where would I be without everyone's help? 
Grab works fantastically well. Not only is it easy to use, charges to your credit card removing the need for the driver to have changed and it provides the driver with a google maps set of directions. Behind me are the days when I would ask for the "Grand Palace" and be taken to the Royal Palace. Being forced to tell the driver that I was "alas, not dining with the King" will no longer be a source of embarrassment. 
Ganymede is located on a soi before a resort and is gated. The driver followed along carefully and found it. I believe this would not have been as seamless without the app. I have no Thai and invite you to imagine communicating this to the average taxi driver.
The spa is new, well appointed and very inviting.  The "massage therapist"  I selected from their Line account timeline is named Kevin. Actually, I made the appointment before leaving the US and was delighted when it all worked out. He's Vietnamese and gorgeous. We had so much fun I booked him to come to me at the hotel the next day. No problem, he showed up the next day 15 minutes early and was a delight, we lunched together. I humbly thank Divinemadman for his excellent blog.
Lunch was at Madrid Tavern, everyone likes pizza, even the Vietnamese. Frankly, I wondered how good this would be. When I say pizza I'm thinking of the New York ( New Jersey ) style and this Madrid's is not. It is, however, a very good thin sliced Neopolitan type. I appreciated the ability to order a small which is perfect for one.
Until I leave for Pattaya you can assume dinner, drinks and teasing chatter with Jack at Maxi's every night. Now, off to Moonlight.
Ah! The legendary Moonlight. I remember it when it was the brand new Jupiter 2000 named to welcome the millennium. I also remember when that area housed a room I shared for a week with a lovely lad from Issan, one of Barbiery's best.
Frankly, I enjoyed it better when it was my room. No, that's not fair. It's a nice place just too much hype for me. I've never been a Vegas guy. The "models" are just not my type. I recognize their good looks and obvious attraction to others; however, the "floor models" are more my speed. Still, I return to Scewboy for the evening and choose a doll from Chiang Mai. Who makes a fine end to a very nice day.
In summary, I was only three nights in Bangkok which I regret as I enjoyed it and ( sigh ) still miss the delightful Jack. But, I supposed you guessed that. The crowds were not large for high season, Maxi's is good. Madrid is good and the Tarntawan is perfectly fine and the endless speculation seems unjustified.
Tomorrow I'm off to Pattaya and my first visit to Jomtien.

Having made it by "first-day nuisances"  that attended my arrival I realized that I had forgotten a medication. For newbies, many Thai Pharmacies do not carry a lot of western brands you might know. However, while there are many that do, you can head to a Boots ( UK firm ) which carries, depending on the branch, most everything. There is one located in the gay area - take Thaniya from Suriwongse straight through to Silom, make a left and it's about a block down.
Armed with my medication I headed to Maxi's to recoup with a good drink and an early dinner. I think the food at Maxi's is quite good, at least I think so, as I was so taken by one of the waiters that I could have been eating cardboard and would have smiled at Jack.
Ah Jack, whoever owns the place should be staffing a go-go bar. I showed his photo to a friend who only likes Hispanics and he said, "wow, so cute." But, I digress, I settled in and enjoyed my first rum and coke of the day. By the way, for years I was frustrated in getting this drink as no one ever seemed to know what I wanted. One day, I pointed to a bottle of Bacardi rum on the shelf and I told them to put some of that in a coke, " oh, Bacardi Coke." Mystery solved - God the power of advertising - there are other brands! 
Still, a drink brought by Jack is a better drink than one by any other name. Forgive my butchering of Shakespeare and to avoid controversy I will not mention the tips I gave for this service - you can assume far north of 20 Bhat. Before anyone pounces, we've all been there: the pretty face has greater earning power.
I took the advice of our own gregarious Paulsf and selected a seat that gave me monitoring ability of the bars and massage places across the street.  Great advice as I spotted a guy at Bonney that was tall, light and handsome. Just my cup of Jasmine scented tea.
Quickly deciding that dinner could wait an hour I headed to Bonney Massage. Fixing on his handsome face I made the arrangements and then blanched in shock as I saw the steep rise of stairs in front of me. Deciding my cane would have to do as an alpine staff I headed up the escarpment. Yes, wordy I know but the damn thing is tall and steep.
Booney is far from a fancy place and very basic. Still, I found it clean and this guy was sweet and attentive. Like the bars, there has to be only one you'd like. It's always a search.
Back to Maxi's - all kidding aside, the food is good and they have excellent fries.  There is, frankly, no better place to observe the life of the soi. I will say, that there was not that much to observe. Maxi's was busy but there was a day when Maxi's and Dick's were packed and there was a crowd walking in the soi.  In my experience, this is not so today. But, then I'm an early bird and usually have my off by 10 PM.
After Maxi's excellent burger I was off to The bars. Both Fresh Boys and X Boys had about 12 to 15 good looking guys and the staff was not pushy. In fact, I spent most of my time with the cute and engaging Vietnamese waiters. They were loads of fun for me with no off involved. But, there comes a time to take care of business and I decided to make a Screwboys run.
Screwboys is a bit dark and has not seen a decorator in many a year. But, the boys are damn good looking and that's all that matters. The coyote boys in leather briefs give a synchronized dance show that is amusing and sweet as they smile and laugh. Number 80 is a gorgeous doll and, well, did what we agreed on. Enough said. Your need and preferences may differ so don't sell the place short - lovely, handsome lads.

 

Having no claim to the skills of a Barbara Cartland there will be no novella here; just an attempt to overview what I found to be true or, at least, my personal impressions of my recent trip.
I flew over on Emirates and now recall while I hate the airport at Dubai. Doha is smaller, easier to navigate and run more efficiently.  I use a wheelchair these days and the system works very well on the US end and perfectly fine at Bangkok. Dubai is a nightmare. Arriving, outbound, on my connection there was no chair for any of the passengers. A confused but kindly attendant organized the chairs but this took some 40 minutes in my case. The same thing happened on the return putting Dubai on my no-fly list.
Perhaps because of the wheelchair situation, I was upgraded on the segment to Bangkok. I had almost forgotten what business class is like from my corporate days and I was impressed.  While enjoying the comfort and good food I heard some noise behind me and explored. I found a nice, comfortable bar with a bartended and seating around the sides. Assuming there is an even more lavish show in First I had to wonder what this volume of space, distributed over the coach area, would add to the comfort of lesser mortals forced to fly in a medieval torture device.
On arrival, the wheelchair whisked me through immigration and customs. Having exited customs I found, to no great surprise that the hotel car service I had arranged and reconfirmed was not there. Why do I bother as there are plenty of cabs? Well, it's almost a game now - I have NEVER had a car show up. Ever. I'm told, "it happens" - damn right. Each and every time.
A word about the cabs. Now, I may be doing something wrong and please correct me. But I trudge along to the little post and press the button and I'm assigned number 53 - all the way down the line. Now, why can't we just take the next car in line. This system seems to work to please the drivers, not the customers. Please tell me where I err.
I booked the Tarntawan with some trepidation as we have all read the mixed reviews of service and hard beds. Well, my room, at least, was very nice no stains, cigarette burns or the like. The hotel is still perfectly gay-friendly and positive. My only question is: are all the doorknobs set so close to the door frame that you bruise your knuckles unless you remember to use two extended fingers?  It's just so damn odd. The bed was, actually, very comfortable.
Breakfasts were OK, nothing spectacular. However, one day I felt very tired and decided to have a quick lunch in the hotel and ordered a club sandwich which was just nasty. One of the layers had meat I could not identify and don't care to know what it was but it was left uneaten. I would stay there again but never eat there - other than breakfast, again.
I took off, the first day, to Cutey and Beauty for my jetlag treatment of Shampoo, haircut, shave, facial, pedicure and manicure. Very nice. However, the place just does not appear as prosperous as it once did.  There was a day when they even took American Express - no more.
On leaving, I went to the restroom on that floor of Plaza Thaniya. I mention this only to highlight one other absurd feature of Thai buildings. There always seems to be steps up or down, odd placement of levels, etc. In this case, I walked in the door and promptly nearly fell on my face. As I caught myself memories flooded back of all the other times I did exactly the same thing. Why is there a sudden two-inch drop to the floor as you enter the door?
More tomorrow. I'm still jetlagged and sleepy.

Today is new year's eve. I planned to visit the lookout point and gran buddha today. Ideally, i shouldve gone in the morning to skip the heat, but i woke up noonish, and have nothing else in mind to fill the time during the day. I take the seongthaw and take roght after the under bridge traffic light, had lunch at one of the restaurant there. Then i started to walk towards the lookout point. While the beginning of the walk along the street was scorching hot, i soon arrived at a park with trails that is completely under shades, so i just stroll along the trail, and see some locals are there as wells. The first guy i saw was definitely a drug addict, saw syringe and he just sit on the stairs trail not doing anything. I just walked passed him, hoping he wont bother me and he didnt. The trail doesnt really goes up to the lookout point, but just underneath it, so i have to to to the entrance road, which is accessible from the trail but its a bit of detour but having a rest from the sun makes the detour a preferred route for me anyway. 
The lookout point itself is definitely worth visiting. The view is awesome, almost like looking at ipanema beach from sugar loaf. The crowd is less during midday too, and its very windy, so i stay here for quite a while before heading down and moved towards a different road for the gran buddha. Another place worth visiting.

There is a nice temple garden before you reach the gran buddha stairs. When i visit the garden, locals in motorcycles stopped to ask me something in thai. When i explained i am not thai, they switch to english and ask me direction to a phratamnak village, and all i know is phratamnak mountain lol. The temple itself its also very unique, with big golden buddha on top, nice view and windy as well. It does feels very peaceful even with many people around.

All is done, i went down and head back and walk to second road toward the school to take seongthaw back to hotel. But i saw similar thing as yesterday, a long queue and no seongthaw queueing. I decided to cross the road and head to chivarome, where i see kinda cute masseur sitting outside, so i told him id like to have a foot massage. Great cheap massage by great masseur who told me about NAB being the gay clubs local goes to, about the free concert at balihai oier that starts at 9pm but people will start gather around 7pm. He also says he has a muscular friend who work in BBB, he told ne the guys name, but not his nicknamr he used in the club but told me he is cambodian. He also told me he and his masseurs friend will go to the concert and countdown a little after 11pm, after the shop closed.
After the massage, i head back to hotel by seongthaw. Reached hotel for a bit of rest from the hear and the walk, and had dinner (just left over from my lunch) and clean up before heading to BT again. A little update on my request for a setup with the other masseur from copa. It turns out this other masseur also already have a customer tonight. I asked if he has other muscular masseur friends, he show me a picture, and asked if i want to book his friend. Face and body wise, not bad, but i said i want to meet him in person first as i am heading to boyztown anyway. He says ok, up to me lol. I also checked up with Z909 on his plan for the new years eve. He told me we can meet for a coffee, he is in jomtien, but i was having my foot massage at that time lol so we decided to meet for the countdown later after trying to get a boy for the night. I head out to BT, and this time its only me, so i have no issues getting a seongthaw heading to BT, but still have to wait for a few full ones to pass by first before getting one.
Reached at BT and parked myself at castro bar. The whole street has been transform today. Red carpet were laid down across the road from boys music to BBB end on the other side. There is free food for anyone in front of BBB, but i just ate so i parked myself at Castro outside bar, just looking at BBB boys and mamasan and maybe owners and their friend sitting on the table outside. Its definitely a party is about to start. There is a table set up for gifts, there is a backdrop for picture taking, and decorations geared up for the new year. The theme is white, and all boys and mamasans/waiter wears whites. Some wears for the occasions and even do their hair. While i sitting at castro, one of the waiter sit next to me and strike a conversation with me. We chat a bit before i went to toyboy to hang out there, and see if there's anyone id like. As i passed copa, i didnt see anyone outside to ask about the other masseurs my guy recommended, so i message my guy, and he called me (a first phone call from boys, who is confident enough to talk by phone in english!) And i told him i want to take him instead, for tomorrow night and he was elated! 

At toyboy, similar number of boys as yesterday but i dont see the hunk that i bought the drink yesterday. Maybe he didnt come yet. Again, at least 3-4 guys are definitely not twink, with 2 are muscular but face wise, not really my type. I stay there quite a while, maybe until close to 10pm, and while sitting there, a chinese women from taiwan sat next to me, and started to chat with me. Its her first day and she wants to know whats what. She said she didnt want to take any boys but wants to have fun in the bar. So i told her a bit about buying drinks etc. I asked what kind of boys she is into, she said nerdy lol. And i told her not many boys can converse well, and she said, if they cant chat, its a such a waste. I told her that i might go to see BBB new year show after this and its always full, she said isnt that bar where guys wear shirts instead of in underwear like in toyboys? I said yes, then she said whats the point lol. I totally agrees with her hahaha. Anyway, another group of chinese gays comes in and sit next to her and they were having conversations too, in chinese. I left her there to go to BBB, and who do i see outside on the high table standing alone, the first guy i took short time my first night here.
So without wasting anytime, i went to him and start chatting. He said this year party isnt as good as last year. Last year, there was free drinks as well. Anyway, i told him i want to take him long time today. He hesitate a bit but says ok, but asked me if i can wait until bar close at 2am. Since its new years eve and i do plan to hang out at balihai piers for countdown anyway, i said sure. I can come back for him later. Now that i have find a boy, i checked my messages and z909 asked me if i managed to find a boy, and i told him i had just make a deal with a repeat. I am free to go to balihai and invited him to join me. He told me he had just went for a massage and free to go there as well, so we decided to meet there at 11pm or so. I went toward walking street and found that there is just too many people, mostly tourists, that makes walking there is almost impossible. Maybe they should change the street to standing street instead lol. So i decides to took a longer path along second road instead, and advice z909 to do the same. I took the road that leads to the end of walking street towards balihai, crowd is still thick but at least its moving lol. I went all the way to the pier, passing a bit and hear the concert, but i saw people has already settled down near the pier and along the walkway near the beach to eat/drink and nap. So i decided i need to find a place for me and z909 to sit/stand to enjoy the fireworks before the place is taken up and no space for us anymore. So i didnt go towars the concert and find a spot at the rock next to the beach instead and wait there, taking in the scene and people watching. I texted z909 my location and gave some description to my whereabout, hoping itll be enough for him to find me among the thousands of people already here.

Z909 manage to find me without much trouble, and i waved him when he is near. He had trouble to cross over the many people who already laid down their mats but no issues with them letting him get through. We sat on the rock and chat. He said last year he watch the fireworks from hotels, and makes remarks that there used to be tonnes of latern flying as well before, but tonight i can only see 3-4 of them from the distance. When its about time, somehow the firework when of earlier, and at exactly 12, the fireworks gets a mini finale like, before the firework gets much more dynamic. It lasted around 10min, took a video but the eye sore of a building really blocked our view a bit. Still a great show for me, not as grand as in other big cities but good enough. We walked back towards BT using second road, and andy said goodbye when we reach beach road. I made my way to BT again and i saw him, the toyboy hunk outside the bar, and he recognized me and smile as i also smile and says and wave. But i already have a deal with a different boy so i go to boys music, where all BBB boys will move after midnight.

I order a drink and watch the show here to pass time until 2am. The show today have some similarity with BBB show but without any of the obscene part (no penis is showing). The callisthenic shows got a raving shriek from customers at the front, and people are tipping them lavishly. Some of the popular ones mustve gotten much more than a long time fee in tips alone. And i also sees mamasan throwing bunch of 20s/100s baht and the boys will rush to collect them. Its a really happening days for the boys and the performers. There is also one show, where one of the femal customer being serenade by the muscular callinsthenic performers on stage, and i wonder how much did the girl pay to be there. At the back, there are 3 vips, who open bottles on three different tables, and many boys comes and sit with them for the drinks and tips. Probably the 3 owners? Or high rollers customers of the year? Haha. There is also now a ladyboy/drag lipsync shows, and a bollywood choreograph number as well, and coincendently there are some indians customers there too. I saw one guy i recalled being reviewed in this forum, and called him for a drink with me, and asked if he can come to me tomorrow afternoon, he said yes he can. Im set up for boys for the rest of my trip now lol.
At close to 2am, i went out to find the boy i had deal with, and saw he is sitting at the table outside. I wave at him and he came to me, bearing a really bad news. He said he already have a customer. He told me i was late (i wasnt) then switch to he didnt know the time and his handphone isnt with him (not my fault). Anyway, long story short, the guy wants him short time, and he rather do that instead of long time, but didnt or couldnt give me a better reason why not especially when he already promised me earlier. Needless to say i was not happy, and i told him that, he even offered if i go short time, he can take me, and nope, u did enough damage, i wont still pay you lol. Alas, its past 2am now and i dont have a boy.
I get mamasan to call the other guy who i already made a deal to come to me in the afternoon, trying to see if he can go with me tonight instead. He explains to me why he cant, mamasan told me to take him ST using the room upstairs. I rather have him tomorrow since i am still a bit mad and frankly tired as well from a very full day. But after hearing the explanation of why he dont want to do LT,  i am no longer mad at the guy who stood me up. Yes he made a deal and yes he broke it, but he did offered me ST too, but due to his limited english, he cant explain why. The other customer is really easier alternative explanation since if i say yes to ST, he'd with me anyway. So basically, for new year, the boss apparently open the bar until 5-6am. And at 4-5am, there will be lucky draws for boys. All of them who is there, will get a present, just that some prize are more expensive than others. It is for this reason, the boys wont do LT at all tonight. So now i blame my misfortune to miscommunitation and bad timing. Its the worse time to try and get a long time from this bar. And i wouldve known if the boy can speak better english. And i do believe he doesnt know about this when he says yes to me earlier. 
Anyway, even though i didnt have any boys tonight, i have two boys coming to my hotel tomorrow, so balance has returned to the world again lol. I did try to push my luck to get long time tonight, afternoon boy and a other long time again but i guess the universe is telling me to slow down lol. I went to second road to get a seongthaw, had to wait a bit but managed to get one, and returned to my hotel, feeling very sleepy and tired that i dozed off not long after. Maybe i dont need a long time boy after all for tonight.

In Jomtien beach Zing and Agate are not luxurious hotels but have luxurious rooms besides their standard room in very reasonable price , they have pool , gay freindly and located at the gay complex in Jomtien. 
Traveling in soroundings near Pattaya is very limited but you can take a short sailing to the beutiful island Kho Larn and plenty activities you can choose from in Pattaya.
Pattaya can be a nice place to enjoy your 4 days vacation.

It's time...
When I wake up it's mid-morning (10am-ish) and it's my last day.  I make some tea and start sorting through my receipts, then checking email.  Van wakes shortly afterwards and from the comfort of the bed watches me pack.  This is a fairly easy pack as my only purchases were some shirts in Pattaya and some more in Bangkok.  I leave room for some workout shirts from a vendor on Silom near Nakarat.  I've been bargaining for two nights now as I walk by.  The price last night was acceptable but I didn't wanl to carry anything.
I talk with Van about today.  He is off - actually, I'm offing him.  He tells me how much to give him, which is less than if I went into the club and paid the fee.  I ask if there's anything he'd like to do and get the programmed "it's up to you".  I suggest we go out in a couple of hours and ask him to trust me.
I shave and get into the shower, he joins me.  It's a gentle way to begin to say goodbye.   
Around two we head out and walk to Sathorn...Van is surprised as we haven't walked this way before.  He asks if we are going to the BTS and I answer "yes, but, no".  
I'm using he station walkways to cross over the traffic.  Once across, we are at the MahaNakhon plaza...the King Power Tower plaza.  Last night, Reader and I speculated on what it would be like to bring some of the guys we like up to the rooftop...speculation inspired by DivineMadman's  doing just that.
The answer to the speculation - surprise, joy, excitement, amazement...we did go out on the glass floor once the blue booties had been attached to out feet.  It was no where near as crowded as the night before.  Yes, it was hot under the mid day sun but it had it's own charms.  We stayed somewhat more than an hour and then did the trip through the multi-level duty free shopping.
We walked back via Silom to the hotel where we hung out.  Around 6:30 we headed over to Twilight so that Van could pay his off fee.  This gave me an opportunity to say good bye to Pau and the other waiters at Maxi's.  The Asian gentleman with a fondness for the massage staff across from Maxi's was already in place , tonight with 4 of the guys.  Good for him, good for them, and great business for Maxi's.  Everyone wins!
Van and I have a drink (he has lemon tea) at Maxi's.  I leave goodly tips for the waiters and the bartender, give a 100 baht to the Hot Male grabbers - and we head out.  I pick up the workout shirts from the street vendor, I mentioned.  Back at the hotel, I finish packing, giving all the remaining toiletries to Van, I give him some baht for his time.  The baht are in an envelope.  He doesn't open it, just puts it in his wallet and that goes into his backpack.  It's now about midnight and time to go to the airport.  When I booked my ticket, I was most interested in when I'd arrive so I could get to Pattaya in time for some interpersonal interaction (!) and as to a return, I need to be back on Saturday, December 1st.
My return isn't through Tokyo - my usual routing, but via Hong Kong and Hong Kong Airlines from BKK to HK.  It's always a mess at the Hong Kong Kong Airlines checkin...so in addition to the flight being earlier than ANA, I do need extra time...sort of a long explanation for why I'm heading out from the city as the clock strikes 12. 
Saying goodbye..we've done this a dozen times, but, this time is a bit more difficult...
Van waves goodbye as the taxi pulls out and passes him.
I make the airport, long wait to check in...Hong Kong Airlines is not a Star Alliance partner so no priority line.  Bags checked through to San Francisco.  Security and Immigrations go quickly, I board the plane, and fall asleep before boarding is complete, and wake up when the plane touches down in Hong Kong.  Good thing I slept then as my United flight to California was 100% full and I slept very little.  While in Hong Kong, I "Lined" to Max, Sophy, and Nuguyen and chatted with each.  Van and I use We Chat and he had messaged me while was asleep on the plane.  Clearly, I'm struggling with saying goodbye to so many good guys. (that may also be why this report has taken so long to publish).
Home...and six weeks later I'm still thinking about the trip, the highs, the lows, the guys stay in touch, Max changing his screen name every week (Max, Maximum, Maxx...!),  Van still working to pay off his debts, etc. etc.
Me...I'm reading Spoon's report which is incredibly good and reminding me that I should be beginning to plan another visit to the Land of Smiles
Thanks for reading, commenting, pm-ing, and all that sort of thing.

Tonight is my first official bar hopping lol. I told z909 that i wanted to see bars that ive not visited yet, that means other than BBB and Xboys. So after we pay our bill, we proceed to take a walk along the sois where kawaii boys, xboys, dreamboys and abomb are. In front of cupidol, we saw a small stage being set up and some boys in crazy costumes were chatting there too. We peek into kawaii boys, and only see 4 boys, all slim, had a little chat with z909 and we decided to move along first. We look in dreamboys, and saw they have maybe 8-10 boys and decided to enter and buy a drink and have a seat. Face wise, id probably like 1-2 guys there but body wise, none piqued my interest. We stay there maybe 20min or so then decided to hit a different bar. We passed Abomb and i decided to see inside and saw again similar number and quality like previous day, 2-3 boys no hunky ones in presence. 
We then walk back to boyztown, passing through second road and enter toy boy. There is around 10 boys on stage and few more waiting to go into rotation, probably 15-20 boys. At least 4-5 bigger frame guy with 2 that is muscular and totally my type body wise although one guy is definitely offing material to me, muscular, fair skin, handsome. He is definitely the star of the bar in my opinion lol. Didnt take long before i called him to sit next to me and buy him a drink. He went backstage to put on jeans but remain shirtless when sitting with me. So we start talking, and i start asking few things as usual and then we end up talking about possible off, he told me his rate, i asked for long time, he says his rate, i said what ill pay. He insist with his rate, and say he wont go for less. I paused for a moment, didnt give him my respond. I asked again if he will go long tine with me, he suddenly said he have customer after this so today cannot. I asked for tomorrow or the day after and he said he has customer take him for whole day the day after, and a regular will come from new year and take him for 4 days. 
So i am practically left with two choice now, to take him short time, or move on. I decided to move on, told him i wont be offing him unless its long time and excuse him. He asked for tips, i said i already buy you drink and say thank you. I dont know where i get the strength to refuse such a gorgeous specimen lol maybe i wasnt super horny, and we dont really have good chemistry when sitting together (he dont really initiate touching me and keep looking at the stage when talking). Anyway, he wai and goes back on stage and sometimes i saw him go outside. During our conversation, he did told me that he used to work in BBB before. Z909 didnt call any boy and just observed the boy at the stage. I asked him if he is ready to hit a different bar and he said yes. So we go outside, and when in front of copa, i asked the boy there about the muscular masseur i saw yesterday morning, and they say he didnt work today. Owh well. 
We then walk towards cupidol. I asked z909 about castro bar show, and he says its mainly ladyboy show, which i dont like either so we skipped it. As we get near to cupidol, the music is getting louder and louder, that i have to close my ears. We saw that the stage is now occupied with a lady/ladyboy singer and 4 dancers in a really fancy costumes singing thai songs. There's also tables and chais setup outside on the road spilling from cupidol. We enter cupidol and were given seats close to the door, not prime to have full views of the boys on stage but boys do rotate. As expected, boys here are 100% slim twink and fem type. But there are some good looking one and they are having fun. One particular guy was so perky and jumpy, flirting with one korean guy which i thought  was funng lol. We stay here quite a bit, observing the stage and the boys. I see many more farangs here than other bars, and one who looks like the owner, entertaining some customers, probably his friends. Drinks here is the cheapest amongst other bars in BT, and z909 said to me this is how a bar should be hehe. Full house and relaxing time, mamasan leave u alone, and boys all in underwear. Id say one guy do have more of a really fit 6packs body but i dont really fancy his looks, as he is more toward fem, but that body is golden hehe. Its now close to midnight, the music outside is still full blast and we can hear the vibration of the base from inside the bar, particularly bad each time the door is opened. 
The time is almost midnight now, I asked Z909 if he sees any boy he wanted to off, and he asked me the same. We both dont find anyone we would take that night. Z909 says he is ready to call it a day, and go back to his hotel, and i agree, but was thinking to go back to toy boy for the hunk before, and see if he is still around or be more flexible now. Along the way, i was stopped by one copa masseur, who is muscular and a bit tall, not a bad look and defnitely offing material in my eyes. I stopped and z909 waited for me while i asked him few questions of the usual. He passed my screening agree to long time until 6am, he said his price, i said mine. Cant come to a price id like, so i leave with z909 towards the mouth of the soi and say my goodbye. I dont see the toyboy hunk as i passed toyboy going back into the soi, and passed the copa masseur again, where i just smile. Now i think maybe i should go to xboys, or check abomb again, but then the copa masseur comes to me and gave a slightly reduced price, and i immediately agree to it.
I told him my hotel is in jomtien, and he says not to worry, he has a motorcycle and can drive me back to hotel. I think i just hit jackpot hahaha, a tiny one. I finally get to ride a motorcycle with a hunk lol. Its one of the joy id want to experience in thailand and today itll happened. Only caveat is he doesnt have a helmet for me, but i go against my judgement and still ride the bike, hoping he will ride safely, and happy to report he does ride very safely with me. I am still in one piece and able to write this report. We also talk a bit during the ride, since we dont really chat much before. My legs are firmly squeezing his body and from time to time he will carress my legs with his left hand lol. He asked me if he can make a stop to buy fruits. Half a small watermelon, which is cheap. At the room, he asked if we can sit outside first to eat the fruit and chat. The weather is cool at night in jomtien so we sat and chat and eat the fruits together. I mentioned to him about the masseur i met yesterday morning and he said that the masseur is a good friend of his and even suggested me to have a threesome. Ive never done that but i told him if they can fuck each other, i might be willing lol. Anyway, i asked him if he can set me up with that masseur for tomorrow. And he said he will text him.
Once done, we move inside. He commented the room is big. We chaf a bit more inside, and then proceed to clean up. He prefer to shower alone, so i go clean up first. And then he goes next. As he undress, i can see all his naked body and boy, i am glad i proceeded to take him. He is probably mid 30s, from thai, issan. Skin light brown, handsome face. The session was hot and he is very passionate and caring about what i want. After the session, we clean up and get on bed, and more chatting. He shows me he used to work as actor for karaoke video clips, and showed me some of the clips, when he was younger lol. His younger self is much more good looking but not muscular, more lean toned. We end up cuddling whole night, and he managed to catch some sleep but i didnt want the night to end, but fell asleep as well for a bit before he woke up close to six, go to toilet to clean up a bit and "woke me up" (i am already awake when he woke up but in lazy mode lol). We say good bye and i paid the tips and went back to bed. I woke up noonish, missing another breakfast lol.

Day 4 & 5
For my last night I ventured into Twilight again briefly but didn’t end up staying anywhere. I decided instead to return to Moonlight as it had been my favorite bar and I wasn’t feeling up to dealing with anymore grabbers who lie about shows that never happen. 
I was greeted knowingly by both the barker out front and the mamasan when I arrived. I was running slightly late and the show had recently started. Babe was already on stage and I was seated on a stool in a row closer to the stage than my last visit and close to the center. Given the improved view of Babe’s abs I was quite pleased with the development. He was in at least 2 but possibly 3 acts that I can recall though I may be blending the Tuesday and Thursday together. One of his numbers involved dancing with a headless mannequin in women’s clothes that was saved from cringeyness by the fact that Babe seemed well aware of how ridiculous he looked and sent knowing smiles out to the audience throughout. I think the song was ‘She Bangs’ by Ricky Martin.  The beach themed towel routine featured again but this time round it would seem Babe had folded his towel a little clumsily and shortly after starting he suffered a major wardrobe malfunction that saw his towel drop suddenly exposing quite a bit more than he had intended. He reacted quickly snapping it back in place and folding it tighter but there were a few more slips throughout and combined with my much closer seat, I got a view that certainly felt worth the entry fee. 
If I hadn’t already been smitten then this performance would definitely have won me over. Babe’s complete lack of ego and open laughter whenever he suffered a mishap was hilarious to watch and I found myself grinning back up at him when he shot glances out into the audience to gauge our reaction. None of the other guys seemed to react or show any expression though. I’m not sure if it was fear of looking unprofessional or just a lack of humour in them but none seemed to react at all even when Babe missed steps trying to tie his towel and dance at the same time. This show was a highlight of my stay and I’d definitely be making my way to Moonlight again if I returned.
The twink crew had become a foursome and did a routine I hadn’t seen before on the previous night. It was well choreographed and performed by the crew. You can see a photo of it on their FB page or in the moonlight thread where Hank has copied it over. For anyone curious, 24 is the one standing above the others. 
The next day I left the Raya just before noon as my flight was late and I was definitely not in a hurry to sit around the airport. I taxi’d back with no incident and relatively light traffic though the traffic coming the other way appeared to be in complete gridlock and the driver pointed it out and laughed as we went by. 
On the Raya, the hotel was perfectly positioned and the rooms large. I mentioned the flooding bathroom in my first post and that was an issue throughout despite my best efforts to mitigate it. There was also a lot of noise during the day due to renovations so late sleepers or those simply wanting to relax in their room during the day may want to avoid it until they have finished. I found the staff all very polite and my room was made up even when I had dawdled in the room until mid afternoon. 
Overall it was a fascinating experience and I’m sure I’ll return at some point though it may take a while longer than I’d like. Im thinking that I will try to ensure I’m there for the weekend next time though as I didn’t like being the only one in the bar and the shows seemed to get better later in the week. 
Thanks for following my waffling

I’m stuck in another airport, the last transfer before home (thankfully) so I thought I’d add the next day. 
Day 2 
My first mission of the day was to find a power adapter to keep my phone running as the room didn’t have any usb ports for charging. The Raya is currently undergoing some renovations (more on that later) so hopefully that’s on the to do list. I searched high and low through convenience stores and local towers hoping for an electronic stores only to eventually find what I needed at street vendor who just happened to have the relevant plug hanging prominently as I walked by. Crossing the streets without dying proved to be an invigorating experience to say the least and I feared death more or less constantly. Although by the time I left on Friday I was blithely carting suitcases into semi moving traffic with all the reckless abandon of a native so it probably wasn’t all that bad. Certainly something to get used to though, I don’t know why they bother with crossings as the taxis don’t seem to acknowledge them anyway.
After a day of intense real life Frogger I decided I needdd a nap and went back to the hotel until the bars woke up around 10. 
I’d been following the Moonlight thread and enjoyed the stories about certain notables so I made it a priority to head there for my second bar visit. I was already appreciating The Raya’s location as it made getting to basically everywhere except Jupiter a very short walk. The barker saw me coming and guided me quickly down the lane. Entrance was 450 and came with a first drink which I liked because it meant I didn’t have to deal with receipt bins that I still found a bit bewildering. 
The captain was a fairly distinguished looking fellow around 50 I’d guess. He guided me to the back row benches which I liked because it felt easier to watch with some level of discretion. He sat himself beside me and proceeded to dispense information about the guys on stage. I was disappointed that many had shirts on but those without made up for it. This was very much twunk territory with a few very toned without being bulky. Some nice faces too. 36 and 24 are pointed out to me and as a side note, 36 keeps his Grindr profile open most of the time with a very simple profile picture and no information. Not sure if he’s moonlighting Moonlight or just up for fun. 36 is tall with a defined body and 24 is a Korean looking twink with a lightly toned body and very cute face but I had to wait for the show to find that out as 24 wears a shirt on stage.
Around this time an attractive guy wearing a leather jacket and no shirt came sauntering in to chat to my captain. The captain moved on and jacket guy took his place next to me for a chat. You can probably guess who it was but for those who haven’t followed other threads, my new friend was Mr Nicky himself. We chatted but I was pretty clear in my body language that I wasn’t buying what he was selling. Eventually he asked if I wanted to buy him a drink, to which I responded ‘Oh no thank you’ with a smile before turning back to my stage watching. He gave up after that and moved off and I saw him happily ensconced next to another guy a little while later. He doesn’t seem to participate in the shows (I went twice during the week) like the other models, just doing his walk during the show finale. 
The show itself was my favorite of the bars and that’s probably only half because of Babe, whose gyrating hips and cheeky smile are more or less burned into my brain permanently. He could just stand there doing that towel/beach routine all day and I’d probably just sit there drooling and throwing money at him. He has a natural charisma that’s 50% being a very pretty man and 50% knowing how to point his dimples at every corner of the room to maximum effect. The show also featured some weird slow motion dancing by older guys that was a bit meh and a higher energy number involving some of the twinkier guys waving fans around while a drag queen lip synced. 24 featured in the fan act and captured my attention throughout. He was immediately sent down to sit with a patron post show so I’d say I wasn’t the only one who appreciated his talents. There was a shower show involving two of the slow motion guys who basically did the same routine while soapy. Lots of cock to be seen from this point on but none were the ones I was interested in. Captain was generally easy to deal with throughout, probably second to the dream boys captain in terms of not annoying me. 
The next night saw me go on a bit of a wander through several bars and was probably the steeper learning curve of the trip. I’ll write something up when my brain is less jet lagged. 
 
Thanks for for showing interest

I’m currently sitting at ‘Swampy’ having just spent 4 nights in Bangkok. This was my first time in Thailand and I thought that there might be some interest in a fresh account? 
There will likely be details missing that some might be looking for, this is deliberate. Feel free to ask anything you’d like to know though and I’ll decide if it’s something I’m happy to share, but as a youngish person I have some concerns about the longevity of comments made on the internet.
Day 1
I arrived in the late afternoon after a very long flight. Thailand was new territory for me so I wasn’t quite sure how anything worked but having spent a lot of time reading these forums I felt at least a little prepared. Immigration was simple though I did have a momentary panic when I saw the signs about visas and saw so many filling out forms. It turned out not to be relevant so I made my way though and joined the hordes looking for a taxi, or at least I thought that was what they were doing. A group of teenage boys were coming through arrivals, however, and they were they seemed to be causing a lot of excitement. A boy band maybe? There was a pretty decent crowd but fortunately they all chased after the apparently famous lads which cleared some space. I should mention at the point that the handle on my bag had broken mid flight so I was left dragging it by the top which would likely have been humorous for any onlookers had they not all been so singularly focused on the aforementioned boy band.
I found the taxi line and after maybe 15min was on my way. The driver used the meter and didn’t seem to be a scoundrel which was a huge relief. I had the address for the Raya on my phone in Thai and that made things really simple. 
I was tired and jet lagged but as I pulled up in front of the Raya I could see the lights of Twilight and I quickly decided that sleep was for the weak. It was here that I committed my first faux pas as I had taken out cash at the airport but hadn’t realized I’d need such small change. Fortunately the doorman stepped out, paid the taxi for me and said I could sort the fare with reception. Excellent service and greatly appreciated. 
My room at The Raya was huge by hotel standards and quite nicely furnished, though the size left it feeling a little bare. My only issue with the room was that the shower/tub combo is badly designed and tends to flood the bathroom when used. 
A short while later I braved o and made my way into the soi. I was expecting the hot male and xboys guys and managed to brush them off as I made my leisurely  way down, taking in the sights. Unfortunately this was a very clear signal to literally everyone that I was a first timer, faux pas number two. I kept brushing off the grabbers until the classic boys guy pointed out ‘there aren’t any more, that’s the end.’ He was correct so I turned back and headed into Dreamboys which was on my list of places I wanted to see. I was ushered in quickly and given a seat with a promise that the show would start soon. There were roughly two dozen patrons and around 20 guys parading around on stage. A broad range of shapes and sizes though I was left wondering why on earth some of them had been given a job. If you like twinks, twunks or muscular men then you’d have some eye candy to drool over.
The show started as promised and my excitement turned to disappointment as the guys doing the dancing were amongst the oldest of the group and not the best looking either. A reluctance to be in the shows was a theme I would notice amongst the younger guys across the bars. The show was fine overall but very heavy on drag and frankly that didn’t appeal to me at all. The sudden revealing of large cocks from under dresses had all the subtlety of a footballer on talent night and subsequent acts involving the audience felt a tad cringey. But that may just be my own shyness, the guy they dragged from the audience seemed to be having a great time after all, despite treatment that bordered on molestation.  
The mamasan or captain at Dreamboys was probably the best of the bars I visited. He was subtle, polite and knew when to piss off and leave me alone, which was most of the time. At no time did I feel under pressure by him to make purchases though he made sure I knew how to ask if I wanted anything. 
That ended up being a lot longer than I’d expected. If there’s interest, I’ll continue when I have more time. Day 2 features Moonlight and a chance to see some famous/infamous names in the flesh. 

By the way, the two days ive stayed in boyztown's Ambiance, the noise level is hard noticeable, though i stay at the top most level. Both time i came back with boys, reception will offer me popper to buy. Apparently there are some unknown straight tourist or even family actually stayed in ambiance too. When i went down for breakfast with my boy, a family of probably 6-7 indians with kids just entered the restaurant as well, but thankfully they went and sit outside, leaving me and my boy alone inside. I woke up maybe around 11 and pack stuff up and head down, check out and left my luggage at counter. Today i wanted to try one of the massage that is a bit unique, the foam massage at helios (formerly known as blue house). I reached there around 12.15pm but saw not many masseur around. The guy said to come in bit later, around 12.45pm, so i went to tuckom and give a bit of a tour around the shopping center. 
I went back to helios and saw around 4-5 masseur now, from just 3 before. Not willing to wait longer, i chose one that is most appealing to me, fair skin average slightly meaty short guy, quite cute face. We head upstair to a room that have a waterproof bed, and shower inside. The masseur ask me if i want to shower, i do, then he asked me to wait while he clean up the mattress and prepare the foam. Id say its really fun massage. It starts with lathering my body with bubbles from the soap, with the sponge, then he use his hands to do some sensual strokes. From hands, it moves to arms, and then it was full on body to body. Feels so nice and relaxing and sensual too. Especially if u like to shower with you boy and have fun with water running, this is exactly that and then some lol. Finished up with a hj, while the masseur let me play with his body and finger his ass lol Definitely feels more like an elaborate foreplay rather than massage though, but cant complaint either. After massage is done, we shower together and he help me clean up as well. As i was about to leave, i saw there are now 8-10 masseurs now, 2 of them sit outside having lunch. So id say its better to go after 2pm for more choices of masseur. 
I returned to ambiance to take my luggage and walk a bit to the front of the school to queue for seongthaw, instead of having rows of seongthaw queuing for customers. The wait was minimal though, less than 10min, and im off to jomtien. Kept checking google map to know when to stop the seongthaw and get off, cross the road and make myself to zing. First impression of the hotel, its really a nice hotel, with nice pools in the middle and surrounded by hotel buildings. I got the room on ground floor in front of the pool. Really spacious room, with living rooms and bed. Big but not enough furniture inside so it looks a bit empty. But the bed was comfortable, roomy bahtroom and spacious living room, well worth the money. I arrived at the hotel close to 3pm. 
I actually managed to contact two forumers and try to arrange for a meet today. Jimmyjoe contacted me first, and told me he would love to meet and have a chat or do bar hopping tonight, but he will have to check again when he is free to meet. Z909 also replied to my thread and i contacted him later in the evening to meet at boystown bars for chat. We agreed to a meeting at 8.30pm at panorama. I then contacted jimmyjoe about the plan to meet z909, and he says he can meet me earlier at 6pm since he is in jomtien too. We met near the dongtan sign, have a really nice chat watching the not so picturesque sunset, as it was a bit cloudy today. We then walked abit down the jomtien beach to one of the  restaurant and have a thai dinner and more chat about bars and boys. It was great to have a conversation with like minded guy lol.
At around 7pm or so, we went to jomtien complex and choose a seat at @home bar, with a good view of sunbar in front of us. I recalled the masseur i took from blue hatha in siem reap told me he uses to work in sunbar. We order our drinks and watch as customers and boys/waiter we having conversations and then one guy come to jimmyjoe. He told me this is the boy he has been seeing for a while now in pattaya. He is like his quasi boyfriend already. He introduced me to the boy and tell him our plan for tonight. They were really like a couple and i got a bit flustered lol. Anyway, jimmyjoe told me he might have to take a raincheck tonight, because if he go with us, his mind will only think about the boy. I suggested to take the boys with us to the meeting, he told the boy and all three of us started to make our way to the main street to get a seongthaw. We waited quite a long time to get a seongthaw as most that passed by are already full. I remembered seeing a free concert banner for the new year and it starts today, 30th dec, and that explains why most seongthaw is fulled. After a while, we gave up and took taxi. 
We alight near sunee plaza, jimmyjoe and the boy give me a quick tour of the area which is still dark, and rather empty, and we emerge out of the wat chai market. We walked and saw rows of buses with tourist groups (mainly chinese) making their way to walking streets. We arrived at panorama a bit late, and met with z909 and order our drinks. More chatting about boys and bars with z909, and he agreed to do a bar hopping with me tonight, and jimmyjoe excused himself as he and the boy went back to sunee to the boy's bar. 
One side note, i actually forgot that i went for a massage on my first full day in pattaya, right after my visit to sanctuary of truth, before lunch. I asked a forum member for a recommendation of a proper massage place similar to prime and he told me one other forumer suggested chivarome. So i went to the shop near walking street, and had a really nice 2 hour body massage. Only 2 masseur available, i chose a rather stocky one who seems to have stronger hand for massage. The massage was great, not the best but very strong. The massage turns a bit sensual when he massage near my upper thigh especially after i turned. And i dont know if its surprising or not since i am not familar with the place, but the masseur offered me a hj. And i can say his hj skills is one of the best lol. He isnt really my type but i always gets horny and turned on by good massage lol. 

I went down to boyztown quite early today. It has been raining since my lunch time, in episodes of drizzle that has been an off and on few times. I waited for the rain to calm down before i go down, and its easy to check from ambiance terrace. Even saw tables being removed from the rain, and then set up back again which is a que for me to head down, around 8:40pm. Having thought that i missed the BBB parade yesterday, i should be able to catch it tonight. I set myself down on a table in at panorama, ordered a drink and wait while watching boys arriving to their bars. I waited and waited and 9pm passed by, still no parade. After a bit more of wait, i decided that there wont be any parade. 
Since its still to early to just head to bar, i made a quick walk around the three sois and made a peak in few of the bars, abomb (only 2 boys not my type), kawaii, 4-5 boys, xboys-again greeted enthusiastically by all boys and mamasan when the door is open, so i have very brief look, and then excuse myself lol. Also looked copa/scandic and ambiance guys, some muscular guys. I actually saw one guy in the morning before my visit to sanctuary of truth, quite muscular guy and someone mentioned is their trip report before about this guy. In the morning, i told the guy i would come back in the evening to take him, but i didnt pay or anything, just in passi ng, which can easily meant as a way to say no. Anyway, i didnt see him tonight, so i asked the copa guy if the masseur is around, amd they say he already went back. Ahh, a missed opportunity. Anyway, since i really like BBB shows, i went to BBB again tonight, both for the shows, and just observing the guy i tool yesterday and maybe look for a different boy to off.
Shows have similar calistenic and bbboys routines but there are variations to the choreography and boys who perform. I see some familar face and some new ones performing. Other shows have little variation other than some show boys is not the same as yesterday. It is full house again, and i get a better seat today with unobstructed view. The guy i took yesterday didnt really see me, but he was called to sit with a female customer, who are with another female and one gay friend. Three of them each have a boy sitting with them, unfortunately sitting in front of me, giving full view of the guy i lust for yesterday entertaining another customer. Yesterday, he told me he didnt like show. And yet today, he stays with the girl for the whole freaking show lol. Owh well reality sucks when it is presented in front of you haha. While i fully know some or most of the guys i like are usually straight, its still not nice to see the different treatment in front of you lol. I stay focus on the show though and after the show ended, their group left, either to other bar or club or back to their hotel, i couldnt care less lol The other guy i like yesterday and had the opportunity to shake and tip during big cock show didnt come to my side to collect tips this time. But before i left and show boys start to move to boyz music, he walked next to me and i stopped him a bit, to asked him for a potential off, asked his role, and if he do long time and he says he didnt do long time, so i gave him a pass. 
Anyway, the night is still young, close to midnight and i still didnt have a boy, walked out, scan again the massage area, no guy id take, but saw one good looking masseur at copa, and thought he is the guy that might be reported also here that demanded the high price. While his face is definitely model like, his body isnt as impressive as id like, especially if i am expected to pay high price. And i recalled that xboys have a late show. So i made my way there, peaking one more time at abomb, no improvement, and then to xboys, same treatment but this time i finally stepped in.
There are already some customer inside, maybe 8-10, and 8-10 boys are on stage, two boys with customers. Mamasan shows me in and i choose my seats in front row. Got my drink and mamasan sit next to me asking if i like any boys. I take a look carefully at the boys on stage, most of them too skinny for me, one twink with muscles, but looks slightly older, one average body hairy guy and one guy who looks beefy, short but have a bit tummy but very good looking face. Out of the whole lot, the last guy is probably the top of my list. Mamasan come to me few more time, and since the night is getting late, i looked again at the beefy guy and saw him smiling at me. Well that smile deserve at least a drink lol. So i told mamasan to call him down, and the boys and bars cheers lol.
Sitting with me, i started to chat him up and went through my standard questions. Agreed with most of my request, didnt take long for me to off him, and got another cheer lol. Boys on stage are dancing while on rotation and having fun. Some come to me and trying to tease me and my guy of the day/night. One even asked if i am top of bottom using hand signal, and i replied cheekily combining the two signal and got a laugh haha. I asked if the late show will be held, after mamasan checking with boys who do the show, and i guess for my sake for asking, they says show will be on. There are only 3-4 other customer now. Shows was entertaining, my guy sitting next to me, in my embrace. I asked if he kiss and a kiss was planted on my lips. At one point he recorded a show, basically a routine where the guy wears led/neon tubes and dance, solo. My guy said he did the show before i came, and show me the video, where two of them doing the show together. He didnt do the show since i already off him and chose to stay with me. I like this guy more and more, another regular guy i wont even bat an eye if he is in bbb, but being in this bar this late, my standard drops but it also leads to finding a guy who are really a joy to be with, but still as cuddly. The mamasan who toom my order also do one drag lipsync show, which i dont dislike lol. 
So after show is finished, i told my guy that we should get going. Tip mamasan and on the way out, the other mamasan, one who had been coming to my seat even after i already have a boy, because i am happy with my guy, by no help from her, i give her small tips, and she was very2 happy to get that tip. Maybe i should just not give her anything, but im feeling generous, especially the agreed tip with my guy is actually pattaya standard and not the inflated muscle boy peak season pricing lol back at hotel, my guy said he like the room, we chatted a bit, he got passable english for basic conversation but nothing further. He is thai from chiang mai, and been working in xboy for 7month. Service was good, and very huggable and handsome in bed too, i dont sleep much that night too lol. We had another light session in the morning too. We had lunch at ambiance restaurant downstair in the morning and i only realize he had been talking some chinese phrases in the room which i mistook as thai. Because when we were chatting during breakfast, he tried to google translate something and then show me the translation and its in romanized chinese lol. I told him i dont speak chinese and only speak english. Another successful long time off, and i head back to my room to sleep a bit before checking out today. 

Kika is a Mediterranean restaurant on Soi Convent.  Map  There was a good amount of buzz in the Bangkok foodie world before they opened, which turned out to be pretty well-deserved.  They open early at 10:00 for breakfast/brunch and go late - 1:00 am (although I wonder if occasionally they close earlier if no one is around?).  
I think the food is quite good.  Not as expensive as some places.  More expensive than the street food joints nearby.  Portions are large.  French fries are excellent.  If you have your heart set on one of the specials, get there earlier rather than later, because I believe they do run out.  Now that Vesper has gone all-cocktails, it's a nice convenient neighborhood spot to grab a bite when one of the Silom Complex spots or Hooters just won't do.  
Best of all it's very gay/gay-friendly.  Last week I took a friend from one of the bars to dinner there for his birthday.  The only looks we got were longing lusftul/jealous looks from some of the other patrons and the usual smiles from the cute male and female staff.  It's not gay all-male as in Balcony or Telephone Bar, but it's very comfortable and fun.  The regular customer crowd is very mixed, and, no surprise, mostly expats..
Special shoutout to "La Vida Kika", the Sunday "Tea Dance" party every Sunday afternoon/evening.  It's a boisterous fun gay/mixed party crowd that spills out onto the sidewalk.  Is High Tea on Fire Island?  No.  But it might be a nice way to spend a lazy Sunday afternoon with friends or to meet people, and kudos to Kika for having it.
Kika Website   La Vida Kika. Kika Facebook
Pet peeve:  The menu is only in English, so you will have to translate for local companions.

Wednesday - Hanging Out
When Van returned, I woke up and we sat and talked and looked out of the windows at the light in the Bangkok night.  He talked more about his family and how he had been cheated in his attempt to set up a business back in Vietnam.  I didn't consider this, as some might, as a way to ask me for money to help get him out of his trouble.  We had talked about compensation for his time this visit in advance of out meeting up a week ago.  I believe he needed to talk and my ears were in working order.
When we finally went to bed, he held me close for a long time.  We woke around noon - unheard of time for me.  After our shower, I was scrapping the plantar calluses that seem to haunt me especially when I am doing a lot of walking which is the case this past week, five to six miles a day.  Van showed me that he had a callus on one of his feet.  As nothing was planned for the day, I suggested lunch and a trip to MBK.
Lunch was at the Vietnamese restaurant in the Silom Complex.  At MBK, I introduced Van to the Red Nails shop where each visit I get a pedicure that scrape my feet.  Van said he wait, I said he should have one.  After some discussion, he agreed.  When the process began he had a "deer in the headlights look".  By the end - he was happy with the experience.  From there we went bowling upstairs - neither of us is any good at this sport but are good at making fun of our lack of skill.
On our way out, we headed for the BTS through Tokyu, the Japanese department store.  Several times this trip, I'd offered to buy Van some clothes, but he either declined or didn't see anything he wanted.  In the Tokyu men's department he asked me to look at a gray track suit and could he try it on which he did.  Looks great on him.  Price was reasonable (a little less than 2000 baht).
From there we went to Siam Paragon.  I checked out Uniqlo for some socks.  From there we went to the Paragon men's store area when I had the opportunity to supply him with his work clothing...i.e. white briefs for his Freshboys on stage time.
We went back to Bandara, he tried on his new clothes and gave me a version of his work in stage attire.  We decided to go to the hot tub and relax as the sun was setting.  The pool view isn't much- just the next building, but it was refreshing.
The we hung out in the room as he played video games and I caught up on my accounts, email, and the news.
We then went out to dinner (MK) and on to Moonlight.  Every visit, I can see small improvements that enhance this top of the line venue.  I let the mamasan know that we are not looking for anything but the show.  This is a night where Van isn't going to recommend anyone - though he introduces me to two boys from the rotation he's work with in other clubs.  The show has been discussed in the Forum and I won't add anything other than to note Babe looked fantastic tonight.
After the show finished we walked back to Bandara and entertained ourselves.
 
Thursday - playing the tourist
Back at home, folks know that I visit Thailand on a regular basis.  I talk up Thailand and encourage people to visit.  My enthusiasm came back at me as a husband and wife I volunteer with are in Thailand.  Before I left California, I'd sat down with them as made suggestions on the plans they'd made for their trip to Cambodia and Thailand.  I'd promised to meet them today at the Everest Tailor and then go on to the Grand Palace where I'd hand them off to a guide who used to work in the palace.  This guide is one tough cookie - she corrects the Chinese tourists using her voice that is a raspy foghorn.  She's direct about where to stand for the best photo, she guards shoes while in temple spaces, and knows who from the ground crew will see entrance tickets so there's no waiting in line.
The tailor goes well, my shirts are ready, and the shop will send them to the hotel.  The couple meets me there, the wife wants the husband to get a suit or jacket and slcacks, he doesn't want anything.  They settle on ordering some shirts.  They tell me about their trip and how much they liked Chiang Mai.  We have lunch at Mango Tree and head to the Palace.  The guide is waiting, I say good bye, and they enter...I'll see them this weekend and learn how it went.
I head back to Silom and walk to the Pilot Pen store.  I like one of Pilot's brand of pens which I can't get at home.  Alas, the building, which is across SIlom from the hospital,  is being renovated and I don't see that the store is closed until I go into the building.  In August, the store was functioning during the renovation.  One of the women who worked in the shop in working upstairs at the Pilot office was getting out of the elevator and, to my surprise, recognized me, and apologized that the shop was closed but would be open for my next visit.  Lesson:  shoppers are recognized and frequency of shopping is noted.
I walked back to Bandara and change and walk to the King Power Tower to meet Reader and Divine Madman for our sunset  visit.  I've written this up in my August report and others have also reported on the view, the building, the elevator, and the three level duty free shop so I'll only note than when we left we were ushered out via the restaurant on the courtyard as the main entrance was closed in anticipation of one of the Royal Family (one of the Princesses) arriving.
Divine Madman, Reader, and I walked to Surawong considering places to have dinner.  We eventually got to Maxi's and settled in and talked part of the night away.  I said my goodbyes to these two very great guys.  We toasted PaulSF who initially brought us together.  Van saw us and waved from the stage.
At some point out group broke up and I went back to the hotel and had a moonlight swim in the pool.  I then went to bed until Van came in and work me up with an offer that I didn't refuse.  
 

Tourist Tuesday
Van and I both wake up later than usual (for me).  We shower together and order room service.  I am going with my friend from yesterday to do some more touring.  Van will hang out in the room and then he is planning to head out and get an extra long work out and will see me at Maxi's.  He has the day off tomorrow and we plan to hang out...which translates into enjoying doing nothing.
My friend arrives and we go to Wat Pho.  There is a light rain but it's the refreshing for walking kind of rain.  We do the tourist thing of trying to photograph the reclining Buddha.  We then headed to Museum Siam (200 baht entrance).  It's arranged to set Thai scenes on a cultural level - April's Songkran has its own moment!  We then take a break for a coffee and snack on the flower market.  From there we head to Lumpini, the weather is cool.  The Thai Armed Forces are having a recruitment day/event/festival.  One can target shoot with the Thai rangers, be chatted up by the Marines, the women's divisions are there encouraging signups.  The officers' wives are selling things they have made to support military charities.  I am fascinated by the internal competition among the services.  After about an hour of wandering around, we leave the park and split up.  I head back to the hotel.
Van arrives within a few minutes from his workout.  He makes tea for us - this is his way of wanting to take care of me...there is a forum topic on this natural tendency among the guys.  It's taken some time for me to get used to it.  Van tells me he wants to be with me the night I leave for the whole night, so we agree that he'll be off tomorrow (his day off) and I'll off him on Friday.  Thursday, he'll work.  
A Forum member PM'd me as to whether or not Van and I talk about his work, his offs, his "patrons".  Answer is "not this trip".  When I first knew him, I'd ask but he is very discreet.  This isn't a barrier to the guys talking amongst themselves.  He tells me about some of the other guys, warning me about guys who are reluctant to perform for clients, who sow off their gifts (suspect he's is one of these).  
We take a bed bread and then a shower  We walk together to Twilight.  He has a drink with me at Maxi's and he and Pau share some information.  Van goes to work, Reader arrives with a young friend (I think I met him on an earlier visit), Reader guides me to understanding this is not the case and I'm thinking of someone else.  His friend doesn't catch on to my  mistake.  DivineMadman arrives and we firm up the plans to meet up at the KingPower tower on Thursday around sunset.  Not sure how it happened, but at some point this trip a lower front tooth has loosened.  On the walk to Twilight from the hotel, I've been passing a multiplicity of clinics for implants and cosmetic dentistry.  I mention this duirng our conversation, DivineMadman is a wealth of knowledge as he has a local dentist and if familiar with what's involved with implants.  If that's what I need, the cost in Thailand would be much less than at home...with the caveat that I'd need to be in Thailand for six weeks of follow up care.  So it's a wash financially.  I've put this into my report - which I doubt anyone is interested in as one of the reasons that this report is so slow in being finished, like having a tooth pulled, is that's exactly what's been going on.  I had a tooth extracted two days ago, now waiting on a temporary, then more work.
Back to Tuesday night at Maxi's...I mentioned earlier, that I'd observed a Japanese gentleman have a massage at Bangkok Massage, then I observed him with the boy at Maxi's.  Tonight, he is there with two of the Bangkok Massage boys treating them to food and drink, he has also begun entertaining the youngest o Maxi's waiters.  
Out three some breaks up in time for me to head over to Jupiter.  I arrived only a few minutes before show time and am seated near the wall to the right of the stage.  Show is pretty much the same as in August.  Given the number of women in the audience (20%) and how the performers tend to keep their privates covered, it sort of a big tease show...that's fine as it's not trying to be anything else.  It's actually a candy store as the level of attractive on stage is high.  I'm asked if I want to off anyone, I'm tempted, but just stay to the end of the show, then back to Bandara.  
 

This will be the last chapter in bangkok. My previous trips have always been bangkok only with some sidetracks to kanchanaburi, ayutthaya, maeklong day trip, and overnight trip to hua hin. My decision to go to pattaya is not because ive grown tired of bangkok or have nowhere else to visit but is highly driven by the price and availability of accomodation in silom during this period due to white party. I have been contemplating a phuket or chiang mai visit too. For chiangmai, ive always wanted to try the sleeper train but upon checking, those trains have been fully booked all through new years. Phuket is also a nice alternatives but having read reports here, ill have better chances in pattaya, where sex tourism is their main attraction. Wouldve been different if my regular guy is around, i wouldve pitch in the idea of going to phuket together with him lol. Alas, he isnt around and have stopped working in bar, so one of my mission is to find someone who can replace him, a guy ive taken 5 times within 2 trips. I still hope i can meet him in future trips. 
Back to trip reporting. Tonight KL told me he wanted to go to Tawan. Ive told him my experience two days ago, and he said he still want to have a look and if he finds no one attractive, we can move on to dreamboys. I also told him i might want to have a rest day tonight, since ill be travelling to pattaya tomorrow, but will go to bars as well since i dont think i can go to sleep early tonight, given that i woke up at 1:30pm today lol. During the day, KL asked me further about the bangkok massage guy i took, his massage skills, service etc and what he can or cannot do. I told him my experience. KL asked me if i have his contact, i didnt, but i did ask him what his new year plan and he said he will be working until new year. I shouldve gotten his contact just in case i want a repeat but i guess i can meet with him later to get it lol. After dinner, i texted KL to let me know if he wants to go to bar, and he replied yes, tawan first and told me to meet him there. Around 10:40pm i started walking to tawan, and at the entrance, they have this sort of mini eggs where u open and inside is a piece of paper. Mine says tawan and they cheers and asked me to choose of of the stuffed toys lol. I enter and choose a seat, tonight is quite full, a thursday night. I try to see if KL is here yet, but he isnt so i save him a seat. After few mins, KL arrived and shows is just about to begin. Similar shows as before, pull up chin bar contest with winners received monetary rewards from bars, though i dont know if its just a gimmick or they really get to keep the money. SM shows with candle, fuck shows, jerk off contest, big cock show. The two twinks who can actually dance are there as well. I didnt noticed phet or tiger, and the rest of the boys didnt interest me or KL, so even before the shows end, we decided to head to dreamboys.
As my hotel is near, i told KL i want to do a quick visit to my hotel to store the stuff toys. Itll be weird for a guy my age to carry a stuffed toys to bar lol. He told me ok we ca  meet in dreamboys, he will save me a seat. When i arrived, shows is on going, very similar to yesterday. Although today we arrived a bit earlier and i get to see the guy i off yesterday were doing a dance number, probably the most muscular dancer there is lol. After the show, he noticed me and KL and gave us a wai. Similar with yesterday we made our moves down to boys bangkok bar for the free show as all dreamboys boy move downstairs as well. We sit at similar seat as yesterday, second row from stage. Some variation of the dance shows but the last show with the large penis rising and squirting water all over is still the same. We moved to the back seats before this happens lol. During the boys rotation, my guy keep chatting and smiling at us. And during the show he went down amd sit next to me uninvited, which i dont mind, but i did told him i wont be offing anyone tonight and he understand, and still seat with me. Mamasan asked if he wants a drink and he says no. Well, this is a first for me. Boy who dont push on drink, nor an off, just want to sit next to me. Next thing i know, we both were touching each other, and he planted few kisses as well lol That deserve a tip in my opinion so i gave him 100 baht. He stills stay seated with me through out the show and carry our drinks to back seats during the splash zone fiasco. Before he has to go back to boys rotation on stage, i give him another tips. Definitely someone that ill look for on my next visit, and top candidate to replace my previous guy, who is also from dreamboys. Only caveat is his english isnt as good, acceptable but cant hold long conversation. I guess i am asking too much haha. Not long after he leaves me and go on stage, customer next to us, two asian or maybe chinese guy called him down and off him. KL told me these guys have been eyeing my guy for a while already. I didnt even noticed but i am glad that he gets an off, and sitting with me that long didnt take away his chance for an off. In fact i think it mightve help him landing that off. 
During the show, KL excused himself, as he says he needed to check his messages. He came back 15min after and told me he made a deal with the guy i took from bangkok massage and will meet him at 1am. This guy move fast haha. And i did a good thing for bangkok massage guy too, getting him another customer. I told KL i want to meet the guy as well. Its my chance to get his contact for future trips. Anyway, after seeing my guy in dreamboy getting an off, we made a move out and go bangkok massage. The mamasan saw KL, and told him that the guy is working, and asked us to wait. So we planted ourselves at maxis, ordered hot tea and chat. Then we saw two girls and a guy, look japanese to me, came out of bangkok massage looking happy lol. And not long after, bangkok massage guy appear and saw us, so he joined us on the table. He saw me and wai, and i said hi. KL then asked about tips etc, and off we go, me back to hotel and KL back to his hotel with the off of the day (night?). 
I slept through and woke up around 9am, had breakfast and then start packing. Thinking that i might be able to land a massage at prime when it opens at 12, i checked out at 11:45 or so, and left my luggage at counter and made my way to prime. When i arrived, asked the counter again if i can choose, same answer as before. Cannot for two week. Asked for massage and being told they are fully book until 6pm lol. Geez. So i make a quick tour of silom and surawong, looking for any masseur that might interest me from some of the parlour that is opened, not much choices this early, so i made my way back to hotel, pickup my luggage and make my way to suvarbhumi airport to purchase my ticket. Arrived around a bit before 15 min before 2pm, but only ticket available is for 3:10pm, so i purchase that ticket, and had a quick lunch at one of the cafe in third floor. Came back to the ticket counter around 15 min before 3pm and asked if the bus is here yet, he said not yet and asked me to wait. Just 5min or so of waiting, a guy comes and yell out pattaya, and i show him my ticket and he nodded and asked all of us to follow him to the bus. Got to my assigned seat and the bus depart on time, and arrived in pattaya about 1 hour and 45mins after.