Olddaddy

Its natural to grieve the first few days as the shock sets in and you will ruminate thoughts , leave it a few days and see how you feel.
If still no better then you should see your GP to talk to a counsellor.
But I'm sure after a few days you will get over it "so to speak.
I'm sure there's guys on here with psychology/counselling knowledge who could advise 💜💜

Just very recently, read yesterday I offered help to  a known guy in severe financial need by promised to hire for 4 days at above market rate. My reward - his entire time  with me was spent on his phone playing loud music out of it , even in bed and even at 4 a.m.
So deal was  cut short , surprise, by him citing my unreasonable demands like stop checking Facebook every 27 seconds.
In country I was raided there,s saying "if you help yourself,  God helps you too " , how true !

March - October is low season, excluding 2nd and 3rd weeks of April (Songkran).

A few bars in jomtien complex are good meet ups for newbies 👍

In my opinion this looks very good:
https://apretude.com/

A lot of mature indian guys in Bangkok I noticed on my last trip,although not money boys .
I know because one fucked me .
Went to the Hyatt Bangkok to meet him 
He was 56 yo married surgeon  Doctor from India staying in BKK for a conference dark brown skin,big thick cut cock,rammed his thick black dick stretching my old anus wide with no mercy then blew his thick load into my old butthole.
Then rudely told me to get out .
"Get old you old whore I'm not gay he shouted im married," !!

Yes, people who are using slimy tactics to embarrass others online should be punished. There was a group in the Vancouver area several years ago who would use a woman friend to develop a relationship as a woman with a guy on a chatline.. usually an older teen or twenties, then after a number of sessions tell him she's actually 14 and then try to arrange a meeting. If the guy agreed, he was confronted in a public area by young bullies who videotaped the confrontation and put it up online. They went too far once, entrapping an 18 year old with significant mental disabilities who invited the "girl"  to the ice rink where he worked and was confronted. There was absolutely no indication he had any sexual aims, but was rather just wanting to make a friend. He was fired from his job and shamed in the community. But some in the media took up his cause and I haven't heard of those "outers" since. Although they did entrap a police officer once who clearly wanted to have sex with a 14 year old. He was charged and convicted. And it is depressing that men go online everywhere in Canada trying find young teen girls.

I have said this many times before,that I don't like using the word "boys" to describe the guys in Thailand.
Two things come to mind ,first I just finished watching a UK Facebook group of 2 guys and one big fat woman (Karen) catch a alleged old pedophile who thought he was talking to a 16yo boy but it was Karen apparently he was sending his cock pics to,  not a real guy 🙄
So they turn up on his doorstep and film him and then belittle him, "so you like boys do you ,you disgusting old bastard" they said 
Now in reality he was not  doing anything wrong up to the point of...sending his xrated pics I believe.  
Second incident this happened to me personally was I was in Grindr when a guy wanted my cock pics which I don't send as I'm a bottom, to cut a long story short it wasn't really a guy but a Karen who admitted to me she was hunting for pedophiles,she was disappointed when I said my taste was mature Asian guys , 
So I'm telling you this because lately there is a fad of groups and Karen's wanting to catch older guys interested in younger guys whether it's legal or not .
Now I despise pedophiles as much as them BUT  16yo is legal for same sex in Australia which I'm sure it's the same in the UK, but most of these Karen's would brand you a pedophile if you did meet a legal aged guy ,so where do you draw the line with these people?
 
 
 

Finally somebody was  brave enough to call your real name

A lot of mature indian guys in Bangkok I noticed on my last trip,although not money boys .
I know because one fucked me .
Went to the Hyatt Bangkok to meet him 
He was 56 yo married surgeon  Doctor from India staying in BKK for a conference dark brown skin,big thick cut cock,rammed his thick black dick stretching my old anus wide with no mercy then blew his thick load into my old butthole.
Then rudely told me to get out .
"Get old you old whore I'm not gay he shouted im married," !!

I have worked out in Thailand & any Asian countries actually after a while you get sick of being "ripped off" and eventually gain confidence to tell them that .
I wouldn't have tipped him.
After awhile in places like Thailand my confidence ( I think you call it that,I'm not a psychologist) but my confidence or whatever they call it goes up where I am not scared to call it out with whoever is not up to scratch)
 

I have worked out in Thailand & any Asian countries actually after a while you get sick of being "ripped off" and eventually gain confidence to tell them that .
I wouldn't have tipped him.
After awhile in places like Thailand my confidence ( I think you call it that,I'm not a psychologist) but my confidence or whatever they call it goes up where I am not scared to call it out with whoever is not up to scratch)
 

A lot of mature indian guys in Bangkok I noticed on my last trip,although not money boys .
I know because one fucked me .
Went to the Hyatt Bangkok to meet him 
He was 56 yo married surgeon  Doctor from India staying in BKK for a conference dark brown skin,big thick cut cock,rammed his thick black dick stretching my old anus wide with no mercy then blew his thick load into my old butthole.
Then rudely told me to get out .
"Get old you old whore I'm not gay he shouted im married," !!

A lot of mature indian guys in Bangkok I noticed on my last trip,although not money boys .
I know because one fucked me .
Went to the Hyatt Bangkok to meet him 
He was 56 yo married surgeon  Doctor from India staying in BKK for a conference dark brown skin,big thick cut cock,rammed his thick black dick stretching my old anus wide with no mercy then blew his thick load into my old butthole.
Then rudely told me to get out .
"Get old you old whore I'm not gay he shouted im married," !!

I remember Neal the big guy who owned a Go Go bar back in the old days  ,used to make Russian customers pay FIRST before getting their drinks !!!😂
It wasn't the indians then it was the Russians 😅
 

Currently in Bangkok with my BF after a week in Bali last week and Pattaya for a couple of nights before that. Mainly been working at a conference but managed to get to Silom for some massages in the area above. Normally not looking for more than a massage so have been using Prime mostly, I’ve been there on previous trips and don’t think I’m aware of anywhere in the world that gives such consistently good massages at good value prices. Between us we’ve had Thai, Oil and foot and all have been excellent. On one of my oil massages I definitely got what I call an “edging massage” he brushed my hole and cock numerous times but always as part of other strokes. Just how I like it. No offers of happy endings for either of us.
We also got a Thai and Foot massage at Relax just around the corner towards 9-teen, both professional but saw a clear negotiation between one customer and a very built/masculine boy while I was getting my foot massage so clearly anything is possible.
Probably going to try 9-Teen tonight, maybe a scrub and oil. Will report back.
 

I love to rim and be rimmed .
Not every guy ( moneyboy) will lick my ass so you have to ask them first 

Wow !
I love to go there one day .
Does anyone know who will win the election ?
I'm going to bet on it 

In my apartment building here in Sydney Australia, a few years ago several Irish traveller guys were arrested after targeting a gay guy from Grindr in my building.
He was a young fem guy who met this Irish guy who tied him to a rocking chair and stuck a dildo up his bum before robbing him.
When the cops were here many were laughing about it when I saw them 🤣

Maybe at 7/11 ?🤑

Yeah, to be honest I thought I’d done a good job trying to communicate; maybe the lad doesn’t deserve the kindness of the benefit of the doubt. But it’s much better for my blood pressure to just move on and not be too annoyed. 
A Google-translated “what can you do when we go together?” came back with a translated reply of “can do anything”. Followed by a top or bottom enquiry for which I was shown a translation as “also”, which I took to mean both, or vers. 
Instead I got a top who also didn’t want to suck.  A small lesson learned, I guess. Maybe I should’ve tried to find a Kmer-speaking mamasan, but I was trying to not involve them 🤷‍♂️

Day 1:
Despite my late night, I wake up early enough to be annoying. I guess the 4 hour difference is worse than I’d thought. 
I get up early anyway, and head off to a surprisingly great breakfast buffet. Even though the food is probably cheaper outside the hotel, I refuse to go adventuring before coffee, and getting the breakfast-included room rate is the easiest way to get the bill shifted to work. The spread here is great, and comes with a tree-top view of Lumphini park, so no regrets. 
 
I have work to do today, but given that the front of my trip has been cut short, I decide to show up late. I head out for a walk towards Silom, to try to get a feel for the place. Luckily, it’s not too hot by about 10am. 
On the street, all Thai people walking by me are still wearing masks - I keep my same approach used back home, and take it off for the outdoor stretches, putting it back on whenever I walk inside. The only maskless faces I see though are a couple of Caucasian ones. I grab a local SIM card, and then decide it’s actually too hot to wander around too much without a plan, and I don’t want to show up sweaty to my next destination. 
 
I get a Grab to Tailor On Ten - also recommended on this forum. I’m looking for a new suit, some shirts and a jacket. 
The staff are a little frantic that I’ve shown up without an appointment, given that someone else with a booking was due shortly after I arrived, but rather than reschedule, they decide to find a second staff member out the back to re-measure the other obvious repeat-shopper. The quality of the fabrics seem good, and I’m looking forward to seeing what is made in a week or so. They tell me I will need another 3 fittings, with the initial one 4 days later. The staff are chatty and I somehow manage to have a bit of a conversation about where some of their Aussie wool comes from, despite knowing absolutely nothing about such things. They grill me on whether or not Australia is so full of snakes and spiders that even visiting a Sydney hotel might not be safe… good to know our national anti-tourism campaigns are working. 
 
After the tailor, I get a Grab to Pak Kret for the afternoon of work, which finishes about 4. I had initially planned to hop back to the hotel via VCK (I promised myself I’ll visit this place before I go home), but I decide that by that time the traffic will be a mess, so I go back to the hotel directly. I decide to pay a visit to Sabaidee instead. 
 
On the map, this looks like it’s only a block or so away, but in reality it’s about a 20 minute walk, if you know where you’re going. I spend ages trying to find it, before I realise it’s essentially under a building in a carpark - not exactly where I was planning to find anything at all, but I guess it kinda fits a seedy gay massage shop. 
Inside, the manager shows me about 6 boys who are available. I’m told that it’s 700 baht for the house for an hour massage, plus an 1100 minimum in-room tip. I put two on my short list, and he calls one out for me to check out in person - “Mr Cow”, who is apparently “Man” and “top and bottom”. Mr Cow is definitely my type - somewhere between boy next door and hunk, with big swimmer-type shoulders, so he gets the nod and we go up one level into a dark massage room, with an in-room shower. Once we are both showered, one at a time, he stays naked, which at that point seems a good sign. The massage is so-so, light on pressure, although that’s ok as I’m looking to relax today, rather than have any knots ironed out. At one point, I notice that off to one side of the room, he’s got his phone playing porn, with a Japanese girl getting rammed by two guys playing on silent. 
After the massage itself finishes, he asks “Fuck? No fuck?”, and we move to stage 2. Unfortunately, it seems his obvious straight preference is an impairment, and he is pretty dependent on his phone to keep going. He tries his hardest, though, and manages to get the job done. Stage 2 is ok, but only really because I find him so good looking, rather than anything else. Afterwards, I ask if he likes just girls, or both girls and boys, and get an emphatic “Girls!” followed by an apologetic “boys are ok too”. I give him a couple of hundred extra for his effort. 
 
After I walk home, my plans to go out for the Friday night swiftly fall away as I pass out and sleep right through until 7am the next day. 

Last time I stayed in Boyztown Le Cafe Royale  was August 2018, the owner apparently a farang told his staff to charge me extra for spilt coffee on the bed sheets as I  didn't book directly thru his hotel and used a booking app so wasn't considered a customer,even though I stayed for 14 nights ,yep 14 nights and still wasn't a customer apparently 
Unfortunately the old fool (I'm presuming he was old) didn't want to show his face so I sent him a email to shove his hotel.
Never stayed there again, hopefully it's changed hands from August 2018 and better management are in charge 

Indian gay use an applications only and arrange for an action during very late at 2-3am in the morning to avoid to be seen. They prefer to visit you instead of doing it at their hotel. Mostly young and eagerly Indians in their early twenties. I had two virgin last trip, quite a memorable sessions. The twentieth year old one came for the second round and confested he just turned 18.  After 15 minutes of rimming, sucking and chewing on his tasty Ass, I placed my cock’s head at his hole, rubbing & poking at the entrance and at the mean time staring into his face. Once the head lodged into his hot hole, he closed his eyes and he was there for me to take until morning. He Received 2 loads in his newly created pussy with a huge gab. Before leaving, he was eagerly to do Ass to Mouth…….. 
since then, I always checked my applications during late night…

I remember Neal the big guy who owned a Go Go bar back in the old days  ,used to make Russian customers pay FIRST before getting their drinks !!!😂
It wasn't the indians then it was the Russians 😅