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17 minutes ago, kjun12 said:

I started this topic but it has gotten far off tract.  Please stop posting your bullshit and start your own topic if you have something to say off topic.

Actually, to be honest, you really didn’t start a topic of discussion. You merely asked a question about a website being down which was answered shortly after your post.  What more were you actually expecting? 

 Sometimes, some of the most interesting and entertaining threads on any forum are ones exactly like this one. 

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11 minutes ago, kjun12 said:

I started this topic but it has gotten far off tract.  Please stop posting your bullshit and start your own topic if you have something to say off topic.

Well the topic here was the other site "being offline".   That issue seems to have been resolved.   Does that mean THIS thread is DONE ?

I think the transition of this thread is logical, and bears discussion.  People seem interested in talking about it.  Perhaps we may have uncovered a reason why people dont like to participate.   All these directives to close threads by people who dont like the direction a thread takes..  Its disheartening, for a site that has low participation to begin with.  Any participation is good participation, as long as its civil and respectful.  And I do acknowledge that I have crossed the line for "respectful"  with certain posters here.... But the "devil made me do it"....:devil:

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6 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

So you are telling me there is more participation because there is more participation. Not a wise reasoning path.

Come on. It's pretty obvious that if you're looking for an active discussion, one goes to the place with more people in the first place. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, or positive feedback loop. In addition, many people find out about that site because of all of their reviews. Many escorts themselves refer to that site in their own websites or on rentmen. To compete, this place would have to somehow be able to inform others of this place. Unclear how it can do that. I did mention once over there that I stopped posting pictures there and started posting them here, but it's not like I can keep making postings there saying "Boytoy is a better forum" without incurring the wrath of the administrator.

2 hours ago, kjun12 said:

I started this topic but it has gotten far off tract.  Please stop posting your bullshit and start your own topic if you have something to say off topic.

Yes'm. Whatever you say.

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1 hour ago, kjun12 said:

As for Larstrup:  Go fuck yourself.  I didn't like you before and I don't like you now.  You're a nasty little shit.

This is the third time which you have shared that with me in the past week. Twice publicly and once privately. I hope that you'll be capable of finding a way to relieve yourself of whatever it is that bothers you so deeply about me. I'm certain you'll be better off for it once you do.

 

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6 hours ago, kjun12 said:

OK Suckface :P.  I give in because you are correct.  This site needs more traffic and if this topic  is good for that then so be it.  Let's keep rolling. 

As for Larstrup:  Go fuck yourself.  I didn't like you before and I don't like you now.  You're just a nasty little shit.

Read the rules of the board.  You don't need to like everyone.  Just don't be an ass to them and tell them to fuck themselves.

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6 hours ago, unicorn said:

Come on. It's pretty obvious that if you're looking for an active discussion, one goes to the place with more people in the first place. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, or positive feedback loop. In addition, many people find out about that site because of all of their reviews. Many escorts themselves refer to that site in their own websites or on rentmen. To compete, this place would have to somehow be able to inform others of this place. Unclear how it can do that. I did mention once over there that I stopped posting pictures there and started posting them here, but it's not like I can keep making postings there saying "Boytoy is a better forum" without incurring the wrath of the administrator.

Yes'm. Whatever you say.

 

That is slightly better. So you are saying the reviews give them traffic. We do have traffic here, the question is why it is silent.

A friend reached out to me through PM at Daddy's suggesting his explanation, aligned to @Suckrates's theory. He says he visits this site and read the messages but he does not want to post because does not want to be associated with a place called boytoy. It is just one case, but perhaps it is something to consider.

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19 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

Yes, I did notice over there a preference for the older gentlemen, and I do remember pejorative comments made in the other site about boytoy's name.

This conjecture is pure myth, written by a few folks who are bored and don't have anything more interesting to write, or someone with an agenda.

The audience in both places is quite small, in the scheme of things. Follow the numbers. It's not that difficult to do.

The people who participate on both boards are interchangeable. Most here started over there and continue to post on both boards. There is no "preference." If you believe there is a preference, that may be your own biases at work.

The change in names from maleescortreview to boytoy could be a fun discussion for a marketing class. Oz broke all the traditional rules by changing a business name years after the business had become established. The truth is: Boytoy is catchy, with only two syllables. It rolls off the tongue more easily and it looks better in print. Maleescortreview is clunky and wordy, with six syllables. The two ee's together look awkward. It was never a great name.

Oz took a gamble. The audience here is so small, changing the name while the show is already in progress would do no serious harm. Plus, he figured, for the 3-5 readers who typed in maleescortreview because they had not heard about the change, they'd be re-directed automatically to boytoy.com. That's the way a re-direct works when you own more than one URL. No harm, no foul.

Any link of Boytoy to pedophilia tendencies is pure fantasy. Sounds like a rumor deej would start to dampen competition. The word "boy" in gay advertising has immediate impact that cannot be denied. Rentboy is a prime example. The nouns male, men, don't quite pack the same punch.

Most gay men looking for escorts are aged 40 and older. They tend to prefer guys in their 20's, often referred to as "fresh meat," unfortunately, or boys.

Selling a concept is almost always about impact. Business 101.

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6 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

A friend reached out to me through PM at Daddy's suggesting his explanation, aligned to @Suckrates's theory. He says he visits this site and read the messages but he does not want to post because does not want to be associated with a place called boytoy. It is just one case, but perhaps it is something to consider.

Read above.

There's only ONE main reason why Daddy's site is more popular: VOLUME. It's either Coke or Pepsi for most guys. They don't normally want to stock both. Again, the audience is so SMALL, most people want to participate in the game that has the most players. It really is simple math.

The reason that Daddy has more VOLUME is a bit more complicated. And I have no desire to teach that class, one more time, right now.

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21 hours ago, unicorn said:

The only "advantage" of the other site I've heard, other than traffic, so far, is that they allow posts to be altered indefinitely, and this site limits the time one can alter one's posts

By "altered," I assume you mean edit. Every serious writer requires an edit feature. Educated gay men tend to appreciate the written word and love their opportunities to edit their work.

Since I no longer post at Daddy's, I can't speak from experience, but I am familiar with their new software. Daddy controls the amount of edit time.

When I was a contributor there, I often complained about the timed edit. My complaints fell on deaf ears, or I was offered stupid excuses. If true, I think it's great that Daddy is allowing untimed edits. Oz should do the same, immediately.

Some people think the purpose of an edit is to hide something. I happen to think that is a ridiculous excuse. Spell checks, grammar, memory, and intent can all be enhanced via the edit feature. People who take their writing seriously and wish to become better writers can seriously benefit from an edit feature.

I see little reason why an edit should be timed. Why test your contributors? Some of my favorite boards do not time their edit feature. They give you an opportunity to update your information without having to post a new thread or make a new post. Fabulous!

Sometimes, I think of something I left out an hour or two later. Sometimes, the following day, I catch a spelling error.

What is the big deal about letting adult men better their posts? OK, if you have some ridiculous, esoteric reason for a timed edit, why can't the time be pushed to 48 hours and give the aging brain a chance to work properly?

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The Prague and Rio forums here are much better than any other site's and have plenty of volume. Dozens, maybe hundreds, of excellent reviews in them along with real photos and advice. Both have expert OP's who have maintained them well. There's so much gossip on any guy !

I don't understand why that model doesn't translate to more cities, including domestic ones. 

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33 minutes ago, tassojunior said:

The Prague and Rio forums here are much better than any other site's and have plenty of volume. Dozens, maybe hundreds, of excellent escort reviews in them along with real photos and advice. Both have expert OP's who have maintained them well. There's so much gossip on any escort !

I don't understand why that model doesn't translate to more cities, including domestic ones. 

I’m doing what I can, look at the new folder Oz created for escorts reviews. At Daddys my adventures in DC hace immediate responses.

Perhaps boytoy has an international appealing and Daddy’s a more local focus? I have commented about this before, based on the traffic I am getting in my blog. Boytoy gave me a lot of hits for my post about Joel from Buenos Aires, but not do many from my DC boys.

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