Members stevenkesslar Posted January 25 Members Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, EmmetK said: Joe Biden has thrown out the Welcome Mat to drug dealers No. Donald Trump did. Tens of thousands of Americans died of drug overdose thanks to Trump's ineptitude and failure. God made Trump. And then, right after God made Trump, God made fentanyl. And Trump let the fentanyl pour in from Mexico and kill the Americans God made. That's an old chart. But I posted that to highlight that fentanyl deaths went through the roof under Trump. If having Trump as President was a solution, the problem would have been solved. Instead, both fentanyl smuggling and American fentanyl death skyrocketed when Trump was POTUS. Nobody knew stopping fentanyl was so difficult, it turns out. Certainly not Trump. Trump knows one thing: how to make democracy fail. He is good at taking democracy and turning it into the black hole he lives and thrives in. Everything Trump touches dies. The obvious version of how Trump makes democracy fail is this. When you lose an election, what you do is break the bones of cops. That is what you do under Trumpocracy. You send your mob to the Capitol, try to stop an election, and beat the living shit out of as many cops as you can. That is how Trump obviously makes democracy fail. On border control, Trump stands within a longer right wing tradition of how you make democracy fail. Obama kept a tight border. And all the numbers show it. Obama had an immigration compromise that passed the Senate 2-1 in 2014 and almost became law. It was killed by right wingers in the House. So, since then, there has been no compromise. Trump for sure sucked at compromise. Trump for sure was helpless to do anything as fentanyl flooded in and killed Americans when he was POTUS. All Trump excels at is killing democracy. Biden is now close to a compromise, again. And the danger, once again, is right wingers in the House. And now we can add Trump who, by all accounts, wants to block compromise on immigration that most Americans want. Trump would rather have more fentanyl and more dead Americans than have bipartisan compromise that would make Biden look effective. Just like Biden was able to get the infrastructure law and gun control and health care and other popular compromises that Trump sucked at. Trump urges GOP against compromise on border That is because all Trump is good at is making democracy fail. And not knowing who Nancy Pelosi is, of course. Bingo T Dog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 43 minutes ago, floridarob said: You just sound more like an idiot every time you regurgitate this scare tactic. Have you ever been to another country, especially one where the US has a history of interfering with their elections to install someone that supposedly will do what US corporations wanted.....or where the US consumers fuel the drug trade? Again, have you been anywhere besides your mother's basement? Scare tactic? lol. The border crisis is a "scare tactic"? 75,000 Americans dying each year of fentanyl overdosing is a "scare tactic"? Wrong. These are facts. And the border crisis and many of the drug deaths lie at the feet of the dementia-riddled imbecile residing in the White House! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 50 minutes ago, stevenkesslar said: Oh, the good old days. Now we are down to, "Nobody knew remembering who Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are could be so difficult." 🤪 5 times Trump showed signs of possible mental decline & isn't fit for the White House He thought E. Jean Carroll was his ex-wife, Marla Maples. And it's reported that Ivanka claims the trump stench is because donald sometimes goes days or even weeks without Melania changing his diapers, while Melania says her latest prenup states this is no longer her responsibility and that he's old enough to change them himself. stevenkesslar and Bingo T Dog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, floridarob said: He is to racists what Stonewall and gay pride is to gays. He made it ok for them to come out of their closet and openly hate on other races/nationalities , immigrants, etc..... Racism, racism, racism, blah, blah, blah..,,,, (talk about scare tactics 😁) Trump's support among Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics is rising. They will be part of the coalition that will produce a Trump landslide this fall https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, forky123 said: A picture of people over 1000 miles from the US is newsworthy only to the gullible. Wrong... again. Just a small portion of the millions of unvetted, illegal migrants that make their way up north in caravans in the tens of thousands regularly. They eagerly move forward, and ready to be greeted by Welcome Mat that Dementia Joe Biden has put out out the US southwest border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stevenkesslar Posted January 25 Members Share Posted January 25 23 minutes ago, EmmetK said: 75,000 Americans dying each year of fentanyl overdosing is a "scare tactic"? Why did DONALD TRUMP let this happen? Answer your own question. Why did DONALD TRUMP let fentanyl deaths spike while HE was President? Why did DONALD TRUMP, failed POTUS who hates democracy and compromise, let this happen? Fentanyl deaths spiked in the US to the tens of thousands while this evil, lying, spiteful. democracy-hating brute was leader. Why did DONALD TRUMP let tens of thousands of Americans die of fentanyl death every year on his watch? Why does DONALD TRUMP hate democracy and bipartisan compromise? Factual notes to people who have problems with facts: In 2017, when about 28,466 Americans died of fentanyl, a huge spike from Obama days, Trump was POTUS In 2018, when about 31,335 Americans died of fentanyl, Trump was POTUS In 2019, when about 36,359 Americans died of fentanyl, Trump was POTUS In 2020, when about 56,515 Americans died of fentanyl, Trump was POTUS Trump, all talk and no action, let the problem get completely out of control. He sucks at leading, he sucks at compromise, and he hates democracy. Trump is a loser. He did nothing but spew hate and lies while tens of thousands of Americans died thanks to his horrific mal-leadership. Why would we want this hateful loser back? Trump is against the one thing that can improve the situation: bipartisan compromise from the top down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, EmmetK said: is rising. You can only go up when it's so low.... Never answered me about what countries you've been to, stop being like a politician and pivoting. Are you allowed out of the basement?? Or are you too scared?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 11 hours ago, EmmetK said: illegal migrants that make their way up north in caravans in the tens of thousands regularly.. Caravans financed by republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forky123 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Goober said: Caravans financed by republicans. You'd think when they took photographs they'd either ensure the buses they've been brouht in on would be out of the picture or photoshopped out but they are too stupid even to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Goober said: Caravans financed by republicans. Truly delusional... Just coincidental that during the Trump administration (when the remain in Mexico policy was in effect), there were no caravans of thousands of illegals flocking north, flooding the southwest border. That's because the Welcome Mat wasn't out. They would have to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims were processed. Dementia Joe Biden's wide open border will be the #1 issue in the fall election, and propel Trump back into the White House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Don't fret, EmmetK, you'll make it to front of queue yet. Don't let those hunky Venezuelans keep nudging you to the rear. floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forky123 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 29 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Truly delusional... Just coincidental that during the Trump administration (when the remain in Mexico policy was in effect), there were no caravans of thousands of illegals flocking north, flooding the southwest border. That's because the Welcome Mat wasn't out. They would have to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims were processed. Dementia Joe Biden's wide open border will be the #1 issue in the fall election, and propel Trump back into the White House. Or no one was setting up photo opportunities. Funny how they always show up at election time then disappear till the next election. floridarob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unicorn Posted January 25 Members Share Posted January 25 18 hours ago, Olddaddy said: I don't follow constitutions not even in Australia to a King in the UK I follow whoever is best for me , I don't think all those illegal immigrants are doing America any favours What I see is bad working conditions , people only get 2 weeks annual leave ,low hourly rates ,I read there is no free medical care etc , Is that all true ? Almost all of your talking points would support Democrats, not Republicans. All legislation to improve working conditions have come from democrats, who are the ones, for example, to promote family leave. Minimum wages are lowest in states run by Republicans, and higher in the states by Democrats: The only talking point you've mentioned in which Republicans might do better would be in illegal immigration, though illegal border crossings definitely went up under Trump as well, and he failed to build most of the wall which he said he was going to build. Trump supporters still believe Trump's delusion that Mexico would pay for the wall. The situation is not quite as dire as some might lead one to believe, if one looks at the overall picture (not just illegal border crossings): Many illegals simply overstay their visa. Most of them do work and support the US economy. Biden could do a better job of discouraging illegal crossings, although under no circumstances could I support Trump's policy of separating young children from their parents. Who would do that? That being said, I do believe that if the Republicans in the House have a good plan to address illegal border crossings (I haven't heard of any yet), then Biden would be wise to listen, and at least compromise. Free health care exists only in a few oil-rich countries. The question is how to pay for it (insurance premiums or taxes, in which case which taxes?). stevenkesslar and forky123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, EmmetK said: Truly delusional... Thanks for proving my point. If my post was "truly delusional" you'd be accepting it as absolute fact. forky123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, unicorn said: Almost all of your talking points would support Democrats, not Republicans. All legislation to improve working conditions have come from democrats, who are the ones, for example, to promote family leave. Minimum wages are lowest in states run by Republicans, and higher in the states by Democrats: I noticed that, too, but figured I'd defer to his screen name @Olddaddy as to why his conclusions aren't making much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 15 hours ago, stevenkesslar said: Why did DONALD TRUMP let this happen? Answer your own question. Why did DONALD TRUMP let fentanyl deaths spike while HE was President? Why did DONALD TRUMP, failed POTUS who hates democracy and compromise, let this happen? Fentanyl deaths spiked in the US to the tens of thousands while this evil, lying, spiteful. democracy-hating brute was leader. Why did DONALD TRUMP let tens of thousands of Americans die of fentanyl death every year on his watch? Why does DONALD TRUMP hate democracy and bipartisan compromise? Factual notes to people who have problems with facts: In 2017, when about 28,466 Americans died of fentanyl, a huge spike from Obama days, Trump was POTUS In 2018, when about 31,335 Americans died of fentanyl, Trump was POTUS In 2019, when about 36,359 Americans died of fentanyl, Trump was POTUS In 2020, when about 56,515 Americans died of fentanyl, Trump was POTUS Trump, all talk and no action, let the problem get completely out of control. He sucks at leading, he sucks at compromise, and he hates democracy. Trump is a loser. He did nothing but spew hate and lies while tens of thousands of Americans died thanks to his horrific mal-leadership. Why would we want this hateful loser back? Trump is against the one thing that can improve the situation: bipartisan compromise from the top down. Factual notes to people who have problems with facts: 2020: 56,515 US drug overdose deaths. Trump's last year in office 2021: 106,699 US drug overdose deaths. Dementia Joe Biden's first year in office https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/index.html#:~:text=Drug Overdose Deaths Remained High,1999 from a drug overdose.&text=In 2021%2C 106%2C699 drug overdose,2021 (32.4 per 100%2C000). 2022: 109,680 US drug overdose deaths. Dementia Joe Biden's second year in office. https://www.npr.org/2023/05/18/1176830906/overdose-death-2022-record Biden, all talk. But plenty of action. Dementia Joe flung open the southwest border. His open border policy has allowed drug traffickers into the country from all over the world to poison the youth of America. In one year, Dementia Joe Biden nearly DOUBLED the US death toll due to drug overdoses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo T Dog Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 33 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Factual notes to people who have problems with facts: 2020: 56,515 US drug overdose deaths. Trump's last year in office 2021: 106,699 US drug overdose deaths. Dementia Joe Biden's first year in office https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/index.html#:~:text=Drug Overdose Deaths Remained High,1999 from a drug overdose.&text=In 2021%2C 106%2C699 drug overdose,2021 (32.4 per 100%2C000). 2022: 109,680 US drug overdose deaths. Dementia Joe Biden's second year in office. https://www.npr.org/2023/05/18/1176830906/overdose-death-2022-record Biden, all talk. But plenty of action. Dementia Joe flung open the southwest border. His open border policy has allowed drug traffickers into the country from all over the world to poison the youth of America. In one year, Dementia Joe Biden nearly DOUBLED the US death toll due to drug overdoses! Are people FORCED to take drugs? floridarob and joizy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members stevenkesslar Posted January 25 Members Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, EmmetK said: 2017: 28,466 Americans died of fentanyl, 2020: 56,515 US drug overdose deaths. Trump's last year in office 2 hours ago, EmmetK said: DONALD TRUMP nearly DOUBLED the US death toll due to drug overdoses! Exactly. And you are right that Biden doubled it again. We need bipartisan compromise on immigration to solve a problem that grew under both Presidents. The MAGA crowd ignores reality and believes in magical solutions. And breaking the bones of cops. Trump wants to block bipartisan immigration reform. Just like hard right Republicans have for a decade. Trump is saying Republicans should oppose any bipartisan compromise unless it is "perfect." Just like Mexico was going to pay for a perfect border wall. And instead fentanyl poured in and overdose deaths DOUBLED under DONALD TRUMP. Trump would rather have more drug overdoses than compromise and solutions. He is a failed leader who was fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, stevenkesslar said: Exactly. And you are right that Biden doubled it again. We need bipartisan compromise on immigration to solve a problem that grew under both Presidents. The MAGA crowd ignores reality and believes in magical solutions. And breaking the bones of cops. Trump wants to block bipartisan immigration reform. Just like hard right Republicans have for a decade. Trump is saying Republicans should oppose any bipartisan compromise unless it is "perfect." Just like Mexico was going to pay for a perfect border wall. And instead fentanyl poured in and overdose deaths DOUBLED under DONALD TRUMP. Trump would rather have more drug overdoses than compromise and solutions. He is a failed leader who was fired. It took THREE years for the number of drug overdose deaths to increase by 28,000 (doubling). It took ONE YEAR for the drug overdose deaths to increase by 56,000 (doubling. Open borders have consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forky123 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 45 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Open borders have consequences. even imaginary open borders? stevenkesslar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stevenkesslar Posted January 25 Members Share Posted January 25 43 minutes ago, EmmetK said: It took THREE years for the number of drug overdose deaths to increase by 28,000 (doubling). It took ONE YEAR for the drug overdose deaths to increase by 56,000 (doubling. Open borders have consequences. You completely missed the point. But then, that's predictable. Trump did three things with the border. First, he failed. Second, he failed. Third, he failed. Why bring back failure? Your argument is that a doubling of drug deaths is failure I agree. Trump failed. No matter how many lies Trump tells about winning elections or securing the border, he failed. There are broken cop bones and over 100,000 dead Americans from drug overdoses to prove it. All thanks to Trump. Trump is a loser. Trump failed. We need a bipartisan immigration deal. Republicans want it. Democrats want it. Centrists like Jon Tester are preparing for a big fight to win it. That is the best hope of stopping the fentanyl and stopping the drug deaths. And what does liar loser Trump want? He wants a "perfect" law, or no law at all. Just like his perfect Wall and perfect infrastructure bill and perfect ............................. NOTHING. The man failed at leading, and failed at getting laws passed. He opens his mouth and spreads hate and lies. But he can't get laws passed to deal with the border. Bringing this failed loser back simply means fentanyl deaths will double again. Just like they did when he was POTUS for four years AND GOT NOTHING DONE to stop the drug overdoses and fentanyl from flooding in. If Trump wants less fentanyl and less drug overdoses, he ought to get behind a bipartisan bill to deal with the problem now. Instead, all he wants to do is spread his own hate and lies and failure. joizy and Marc in Calif 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joizy Posted January 26 Popular Post Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2024 at 12:17 PM, Olddaddy said: I don't follow constitutions not even in Australia to a King in the UK I follow whoever is best for me , I don't think all those illegal immigrants are doing America any favours What I see is bad working conditions , people only get 2 weeks annual leave ,low hourly rates ,I read there is no free medical care etc , Is that all true ? Trump did nothing to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into this country. His wall was a joke and a waste of money. Now he is stopping the Senate from signing onto a bipartisan immigration bill because he wants to hurt Biden. He's very transparent about his actions. He tells people why he's doing it, and in this case, he's doing it to hurt the country and improve his chances of winning so he can pardon himself. His only reason for wanting to be president again is so that he can avoid prosecution for his many crimes. He has 91 charges against him. You'd really support a criminal for president? He did nothing to improve medical care in the US. Obama did, and Trump and his gang tried to repeal Obamacare. They kept saying they had a plan. They never produced a plan. He's a zero on that front. He did nothing to improve working conditions, minimum wage or paid family leave. Biden has. Biden is the most pro-union president we've ever had. He had done more to improve our economy, create jobs and increase wages than any president in my lifetime, in spite of Republican opposition. Trump, on the other hand, ran up the deficit, and downplayed a deadly virus costing hundreds of thousands of lives and tanking our economy. His ego would not let him admit that COVID was serious. As a result, many needlessly died, including many of his cult members who took horse medicine at his recommendation. I'm glad you're not registered to vote here because it seems you're not getting accurate information. I hope this helps enlighten you a little. kokopelli3, Goober, floridarob and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridarob Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 16 hours ago, reader said: Don't fret, EmmetK, you'll make it to front of queue yet. Don't let those hunky Venezuelans keep nudging you to the rear. In his dreams, he's a miserable sexless guy, on this board of all places 🙄 14 hours ago, EmmetK said: Biden, all talk. But plenty of action. Dementia Joe flung open the southwest border. His open border policy has allowed drug traffickers into the country from all over the world to poison the youth of America. The illegals force the rednecks to use the drugs, that's a novel idea .... reader, Latbear4blk and Bingo T Dog 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 7 hours ago, joizy said: Trump did nothing to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into this country. His wall was a joke and a waste of money. Now he is stopping the Senate from signing onto a bipartisan immigration bill because he wants to hurt Biden. He's very transparent about his actions. He tells people why he's doing it, and in this case, he's doing it to hurt the country and improve his chances of winning so he can pardon himself. His only reason for wanting to be president again is so that he can avoid prosecution for his many crimes. He has 91 charges against him. You'd really support a criminal for president? And remember he claimed his "beautiful wall" was to be paid for 100% by Mexico. This was his main campaign promise at every rally. When it was obvious this was just another of his lies, he begged the president of Mexico to publicly state that Mexico would pay for the wall. And if trump really cared about the immigration issue, he'd be actually acting like a responsible adult instead of a tantrum-prone three year old and encourage the passing of the Senate immigration bill, promoted by trump's own personal butt plug, Lindsey Graham, saying "To those who think that if President Trump wins, which I hope he does, that we can get a better deal — you won’t” floridarob and joizy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
