faranglaw

The audience is young Thai girls. They like clean, gentle, rich boys.  But I’m with you; I’d like to see a little more Isan poor boy action.

These boys in the thai series are all neat and tidy, smartly dressed and good-mannered, mostly coming from well-off hi-so families.
Seems to me that Interesting scenarii could be written as well about behind the scene moh-lam concert stories in Nakhon Nowhere or romantic gossip in Sticksburi technical college.
Give me rough lads / camp boys from isan or northern at any time !
 

I don't think it is hostile. I think it is smart. They are keeping their people safe and I appreciate that.

Schadenfreude: So unseeemly, so immature, so lacking in compassion. And so irresistible.  

moody and indifferent, better to be left alone even with greatest body.
It's why I always advocate offing only guys who smile at us or at least look intensely in our direction

1.  Don't over-think.  
2.  Be open.
3.  Be kind.
4.  Have fun.
 

A rainy Friday night so I headed over to Tawan, thinking there might be very few customers and the guys might  be eager for some tip money. Indeed, when I arrived at 10:15, there was exactly one customer inside. No show, so no cover charge. The guys were wearing street clothes, taking only their shirt off for the on-stage rotation, and looking bored to death. 
I announced that I would buy drinks for any naked boys and immediately had several takers. The only other customer took an off, which left me as the only customer, drinking with a bunch of naked guys. I said I wanted to see a show, so two of them got up on stage and sucked each other's cocks, licked each other all over, etc. It was great fun, they were very good sports about it, and it was much sexier without the silly costumes or masks they normally wear.  In the end, I tipped everybody who had participated, including the DJ and the bartender.
I dropped a couple of thousand baht, but it was worth it for what was essentially a private party, and everybody seemed grateful to have someone actually willing to engage with them. I have been lucky enough to still have work during the virus, so I don't mind sharing a little bit with those who are currently struggling, especially when I get a lot attention in return as I did on Friday. The guys in there have been very good to me over the years and so I was  happy to provide them with a little something during tough times.
I'll probably drop in again in a few weeks and do it again.

Oh please God no...

Oh please God no...

2. List of ASQ ( Alternative State Quarantine) hotels
https://thaiest.com/blog/list-of-alternative-state-quarantine-asq-hotels-thailand

I am old. So, my thoughts may be out of date. But, I do remember years ago that up to 4 full paragraphs of an article could be copies with citation given. That has been what I have tried to do for years.
For this article, I think one misses a lot with just the words as there is so many photos there which are great to view as you read.
Odd that it is now only one article as I found the same. However, I do subscribe to the NYT to support them as well as the Washington Post.  I was doing that for the LA Times but they got more expensive and they require you to call in to cancel. Being abroad, I find I get a lot of great articles from the NYT.

Found it. Club Friday. Episode 2 what a tear jerker.

or as we with wretched manners who hail from that wretchedest of countries sometimes say, “Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?”

but...other than that...

except you're free to come and go, or not go, and, well, everything else.....

Great line...lol.
Their service follows the time-honored recipe for making a roux: it must be continuously stirred while being heated.

After sleeping off my jetlag, woke up very late on Saturday and at 2 pm entered Arena for a massage (on my way to Mahanakhon sky walk). I think I was the only customer there. 25 boys of various types sprung up, a few vying for attention. None were really enticing. I asked the mamasan who had big dicks, he pointed out 4, and I chose Pom. Paid mamasan 600.
Good room and shower. Pom joined me after I has invited him, and soaped my back side. Massage was good; it seems he knew what he was doing. A little English; told me about his daughter at a village and about life in BKK. During massage didn't initiate anything sensual, but didnt shy away when he was positioned for fondling. In Thai terms, his dick WAS big.
After I turned over he asked what I liked. Massaged my groin, and we engaged in mutual oral. Tried his best to please me. Then we showered again. Graded 8 of 10. I think the minimal tip was 1000, and I added 500.
When I asked him if he wants me to advertise him, he was glad about the idea.
Pom   +66 844628261
 

There's a story about a hippie tourist who heard that in Thailand you are supposed to negotiate prices for everything (a la Chatuchak) so he tried to do that at 7-11.

IMNSHO it would have been better if both of you had allowed Divine Madman’s thoughtful post be the last word. My thanks to DM for going a little deeper on this.

How did it come to this, that being born in a poor country, that country becomes a great big prison you are not allowed to leave? Under what ethical system is that really OK?  I agree with the sign held up by a demonstrator here in Boston, demonstrating outside an ICE detention facility:  “No one is illegal.”  Why is it so difficult to say, “My choice of words was inappropriate; thanks for pointing it out.”

you are not alone in that feeling

so it looks that Pattaya's attempts to become family destination are somewhat successful 

I think many/most of the regulars on this board know 2-3, actually often more, guys from Ha Tinh.  (At least those who have kept an open mind about VN guys.)  Indeed, there is rumored to be a statue to Paulsf there.   That may help explain why nerves are raw.
Still, what you or I or any of us write reflects choices and thoughts.  Personally, in my opinion, choosing "IIlegals" as the headline word to describe the victims is fairly open to criticism.  "Undocumenteds" is the neutral term.  Applying the label "illegals" is a choice, and a negative one at that.  Maybe you didn't know that.  Maybe you didn't care.  I don't know.  But why any of that is at the forefront is beyond me.  These were people.  Dreamers and strivers.  
By the same token, choosing to say that the guys here "sell their bodies" is about as demeaning a way to describe them as you can find.  And I think that's the criticism.  Obviously they're prostitutes (sex workers).  The point is, particularly in the context of a tragedy --  but really always -- dignity and respect are called for.   That's not "hand-wringing about prostitution."  If anything, it's the opposite.  It's getting the idea out there that they're young men and sex workers they're and owed all the same respect as any man or woman, and the words we use to describe them should convey that.  So when you have a choice to describe them or what they do, pick the one that shows respect.
One of the downsides of putting anything out there in writing is that it can be picked apart.  Maybe it's an opportunity to learn something.  Or not.  
Also, it's good that this tragedy helped your, and with luck other's, understanding of the economic pressures these guys are under.  I and others are always are urging people to go with the guys to their home villages, spend time really getting to know them, then you can learn this sort of stuff without such a tragedy.  

So what cleaning is for your teeth is ejaculating for your protaste.
The control group 4-7 ej. must indeed have been very small. Certainly they did not recruit people for it in this forum