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I had one. In Khon Kaen. We smiled at each other in a cheap restaurant, and before long he was following me back to my room. At some point along the walk to the hotel, he mentioned something about needing money because he had just finished his novitiate month - aha, that accounted for his bad haircut, I said to myself - though exactly what the relationship between finishing a month of novice monkhood and needing money I never really knew. But the point was that he made it quite clear that there had to be compensation. I cannot remember now how much it was, but it was commensurate with the lower cost of living in the far Isaan, and did not give me pause.
I remember nothing about the performance in bed, so it must have been something midway between memorable fireworks and throw-the-dud-out.
I did wonder in the days following, if, pre-novitiate, he had been working in the bars of Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket, and thus had the skills to identify horny foreigners from afar, reel them in, and negotiate a price. For all I know, what I paid him could have been spent buying a bus ticket back to Patpong.

Awww, thanks @floridarob for the shout-out. To answer a few questions above,

@tm_nyc - it was a conscious decision to turn off comments. My posts come in spurts and starts, and for months between travels I may not post (nothing to report) and so have no reason to even look at my own site. This may frustrate people who put questions there, and they may think me rude to not reply. I would rather they put their questions here in GayGuides and this way benefit from the collective wisdom of many others, not just me.
@Marc in Calif - Having done the other parts of Bali before, I had no urge to go trekking to the other towns; not even Ubud which I personally think a bit overrated (but that's just me). Furthermore the trip was half work and I didn't want to risk putting myself in the smaller places where wifi might be uncertain.
Even in earlier visits, I have not come across gay places outside of the main urban area in Kuta - Seminyak - and I have not seen mention of any online (except 1 or 2 clothing-optional resorts). So, if you know of some, please share. I may check them out the next time. 
I've never been to any of these advertsed clothing-options places (no real interest) but I once had a longish conversation with someone while we were both stuck in transit at Singapore's Changi airport, waiting for a delayed flight to Manila. I don't fully recall the details (I don't even recall his name now!), but I do recall his general observation that the one (or was it two?) places he had been to were quite isolated, and there was limited choice beyond the in-house staff. Also, he said something about poor customer traffic, thus poor upkeep of the premises. But this is second-hand information. Would certainly appreciate if others had better and more recent information.
 

Tell, tell... please don't leave us hanging.
 

I have never understood how Abomb has survived all these years. I know it changed owners right after Covid, so perhaps there has been frequent changes of owners, each bearing several years of losses before giving up. This bar has had its ups and downs, but I have had great offs from there, so I always make a point of checking it out each time I am in Pattaya - which isnt often nowadays, unfortunately. 
As for negative reviews, there are negative reviews of every bar, and I suspect a lot of that comes from the type of boy a bar has. Those who like fem twinks will be completely disappointed by Abomb. Those who like the bigger guys will be writing negative reviews of bars with fem twinks. And thus, the world goes around.

I have never understood how Abomb has survived all these years. I know it changed owners right after Covid, so perhaps there has been frequent changes of owners, each bearing several years of losses before giving up. This bar has had its ups and downs, but I have had great offs from there, so I always make a point of checking it out each time I am in Pattaya - which isnt often nowadays, unfortunately. 
As for negative reviews, there are negative reviews of every bar, and I suspect a lot of that comes from the type of boy a bar has. Those who like fem twinks will be completely disappointed by Abomb. Those who like the bigger guys will be writing negative reviews of bars with fem twinks. And thus, the world goes around.

There are some gays bars that would celebrate if they got as many as four customers.

I have never understood how Abomb has survived all these years. I know it changed owners right after Covid, so perhaps there has been frequent changes of owners, each bearing several years of losses before giving up. This bar has had its ups and downs, but I have had great offs from there, so I always make a point of checking it out each time I am in Pattaya - which isnt often nowadays, unfortunately. 
As for negative reviews, there are negative reviews of every bar, and I suspect a lot of that comes from the type of boy a bar has. Those who like fem twinks will be completely disappointed by Abomb. Those who like the bigger guys will be writing negative reviews of bars with fem twinks. And thus, the world goes around.

There are some gays bars that would celebrate if they got as many as four customers.

I have never understood how Abomb has survived all these years. I know it changed owners right after Covid, so perhaps there has been frequent changes of owners, each bearing several years of losses before giving up. This bar has had its ups and downs, but I have had great offs from there, so I always make a point of checking it out each time I am in Pattaya - which isnt often nowadays, unfortunately. 
As for negative reviews, there are negative reviews of every bar, and I suspect a lot of that comes from the type of boy a bar has. Those who like fem twinks will be completely disappointed by Abomb. Those who like the bigger guys will be writing negative reviews of bars with fem twinks. And thus, the world goes around.

I have never understood how Abomb has survived all these years. I know it changed owners right after Covid, so perhaps there has been frequent changes of owners, each bearing several years of losses before giving up. This bar has had its ups and downs, but I have had great offs from there, so I always make a point of checking it out each time I am in Pattaya - which isnt often nowadays, unfortunately. 
As for negative reviews, there are negative reviews of every bar, and I suspect a lot of that comes from the type of boy a bar has. Those who like fem twinks will be completely disappointed by Abomb. Those who like the bigger guys will be writing negative reviews of bars with fem twinks. And thus, the world goes around.

I have never understood how Abomb has survived all these years. I know it changed owners right after Covid, so perhaps there has been frequent changes of owners, each bearing several years of losses before giving up. This bar has had its ups and downs, but I have had great offs from there, so I always make a point of checking it out each time I am in Pattaya - which isnt often nowadays, unfortunately. 
As for negative reviews, there are negative reviews of every bar, and I suspect a lot of that comes from the type of boy a bar has. Those who like fem twinks will be completely disappointed by Abomb. Those who like the bigger guys will be writing negative reviews of bars with fem twinks. And thus, the world goes around.

I have asked the same question before!  I asked the boys and the receptionist. No one knew the answer, but instead I got looks that sort of asked me in return: "Why are you even asking such a question? What does it matter to you what colour we (are told to) wear?" 
Lest things escalate with offence taken over this pedantic, busybody tourist, it was wiser to just leave it at that and get to the business of choosing a boy whose chief task in the room would be to discard the orange shirt (and more) post-haste.
 

Kissing is not a requirement for me, so I have never ever asked any boy in advance if that's what he will do, but occasionally, in the heat of the moment while in the room this may seem the natural progression of the one-hour romance. My limited experience is that more often than not I get a response, "I no kit."
While others may have different "survey results", and it will be nice to hear what their experiences are, from my experience, I think the majority will not want to do it. You may need to lower your expectations.
There was a time when I put the no-kissing stance to the fact that the majority of the boys working in gogo bars are straight but I am not so sure anymore. Firstly, how straight can they be if they can get hard as easily as they do? Secondly, I have a feeling the issue is strongly cultural and kissing is seen in a very different light in Thai culture, which therefore means that even the gay boys would attach similar cultural significance (whatever that may be) to kissing.

I found the OP's idea so strange, I just had to do some digging. June 7, 2023 was when the OP made his first post in this forum. He - I assume it's a he - said:
Can someone please help me how much should i pay the go go boys on my visit? A friend of mine who go to thailand last april told him that he was wrong for giving the go go boy too much and also, he was asked by the bar fine much higher compare to others. I really dont have my idea since its my first time visiting thailand. I really appreciate if someone will guide me.
My generous interpretation, if the idea was actually serious, is that it's a temporary flight of fancy that sometimes happens to folks on their first trip to Bangkok. Newbies have been known to be mesmerised by the city's offerings, yet dissatisfied because the scene doesn't completely live up to their fantasies. So as soon as the trip is over (or even before) plans are made to out-do the bars that exist. In this case, we can see from this member's post on June 14 (topic: Celebrity encounter) that the fantasy is that of buying the services of celebrities.
Do you have any experience hiring famous model or celebrity in Bangkok? I mean i dont mind paying 10-20k baht just to have one night with them. 
Naturally, the necessary caution should be to not imagine that there are enough of others with similar tastes (or pockets) to make a market for a business. Jaded old-timers here have seen many a foreigner lose money by the bucketloads setting up bars and businesses to feed their personal fantasy rather than based on a hard-headed business plan. Please don't be the next one.
 

I find it hard to believe that the OP is serious. There are so many legal issues involved, it shouldn't even take any research to be skeptical about its viability. Consequently, and I don't mean to offend, my first reaction was that it was just meant to get a rise out of other readers.
I am intrigued by this. I hope your contact is not some out-of-work mamasan who dreams of making it big on your money.

I found the OP's idea so strange, I just had to do some digging. June 7, 2023 was when the OP made his first post in this forum. He - I assume it's a he - said:
Can someone please help me how much should i pay the go go boys on my visit? A friend of mine who go to thailand last april told him that he was wrong for giving the go go boy too much and also, he was asked by the bar fine much higher compare to others. I really dont have my idea since its my first time visiting thailand. I really appreciate if someone will guide me.
My generous interpretation, if the idea was actually serious, is that it's a temporary flight of fancy that sometimes happens to folks on their first trip to Bangkok. Newbies have been known to be mesmerised by the city's offerings, yet dissatisfied because the scene doesn't completely live up to their fantasies. So as soon as the trip is over (or even before) plans are made to out-do the bars that exist. In this case, we can see from this member's post on June 14 (topic: Celebrity encounter) that the fantasy is that of buying the services of celebrities.
Do you have any experience hiring famous model or celebrity in Bangkok? I mean i dont mind paying 10-20k baht just to have one night with them. 
Naturally, the necessary caution should be to not imagine that there are enough of others with similar tastes (or pockets) to make a market for a business. Jaded old-timers here have seen many a foreigner lose money by the bucketloads setting up bars and businesses to feed their personal fantasy rather than based on a hard-headed business plan. Please don't be the next one.
 

I find it hard to believe that the OP is serious. There are so many legal issues involved, it shouldn't even take any research to be skeptical about its viability. Consequently, and I don't mean to offend, my first reaction was that it was just meant to get a rise out of other readers.
I am intrigued by this. I hope your contact is not some out-of-work mamasan who dreams of making it big on your money.

Kissing is not a requirement for me, so I have never ever asked any boy in advance if that's what he will do, but occasionally, in the heat of the moment while in the room this may seem the natural progression of the one-hour romance. My limited experience is that more often than not I get a response, "I no kit."
While others may have different "survey results", and it will be nice to hear what their experiences are, from my experience, I think the majority will not want to do it. You may need to lower your expectations.
There was a time when I put the no-kissing stance to the fact that the majority of the boys working in gogo bars are straight but I am not so sure anymore. Firstly, how straight can they be if they can get hard as easily as they do? Secondly, I have a feeling the issue is strongly cultural and kissing is seen in a very different light in Thai culture, which therefore means that even the gay boys would attach similar cultural significance (whatever that may be) to kissing.

"Then turn around and I fuck you all night."

I found the OP's idea so strange, I just had to do some digging. June 7, 2023 was when the OP made his first post in this forum. He - I assume it's a he - said:
Can someone please help me how much should i pay the go go boys on my visit? A friend of mine who go to thailand last april told him that he was wrong for giving the go go boy too much and also, he was asked by the bar fine much higher compare to others. I really dont have my idea since its my first time visiting thailand. I really appreciate if someone will guide me.
My generous interpretation, if the idea was actually serious, is that it's a temporary flight of fancy that sometimes happens to folks on their first trip to Bangkok. Newbies have been known to be mesmerised by the city's offerings, yet dissatisfied because the scene doesn't completely live up to their fantasies. So as soon as the trip is over (or even before) plans are made to out-do the bars that exist. In this case, we can see from this member's post on June 14 (topic: Celebrity encounter) that the fantasy is that of buying the services of celebrities.
Do you have any experience hiring famous model or celebrity in Bangkok? I mean i dont mind paying 10-20k baht just to have one night with them. 
Naturally, the necessary caution should be to not imagine that there are enough of others with similar tastes (or pockets) to make a market for a business. Jaded old-timers here have seen many a foreigner lose money by the bucketloads setting up bars and businesses to feed their personal fantasy rather than based on a hard-headed business plan. Please don't be the next one.
 

I find it hard to believe that the OP is serious. There are so many legal issues involved, it shouldn't even take any research to be skeptical about its viability. Consequently, and I don't mean to offend, my first reaction was that it was just meant to get a rise out of other readers.
I am intrigued by this. I hope your contact is not some out-of-work mamasan who dreams of making it big on your money.

Kissing is not a requirement for me, so I have never ever asked any boy in advance if that's what he will do, but occasionally, in the heat of the moment while in the room this may seem the natural progression of the one-hour romance. My limited experience is that more often than not I get a response, "I no kit."
While others may have different "survey results", and it will be nice to hear what their experiences are, from my experience, I think the majority will not want to do it. You may need to lower your expectations.
There was a time when I put the no-kissing stance to the fact that the majority of the boys working in gogo bars are straight but I am not so sure anymore. Firstly, how straight can they be if they can get hard as easily as they do? Secondly, I have a feeling the issue is strongly cultural and kissing is seen in a very different light in Thai culture, which therefore means that even the gay boys would attach similar cultural significance (whatever that may be) to kissing.

"Then turn around and I fuck you all night."

I found the OP's idea so strange, I just had to do some digging. June 7, 2023 was when the OP made his first post in this forum. He - I assume it's a he - said:
Can someone please help me how much should i pay the go go boys on my visit? A friend of mine who go to thailand last april told him that he was wrong for giving the go go boy too much and also, he was asked by the bar fine much higher compare to others. I really dont have my idea since its my first time visiting thailand. I really appreciate if someone will guide me.
My generous interpretation, if the idea was actually serious, is that it's a temporary flight of fancy that sometimes happens to folks on their first trip to Bangkok. Newbies have been known to be mesmerised by the city's offerings, yet dissatisfied because the scene doesn't completely live up to their fantasies. So as soon as the trip is over (or even before) plans are made to out-do the bars that exist. In this case, we can see from this member's post on June 14 (topic: Celebrity encounter) that the fantasy is that of buying the services of celebrities.
Do you have any experience hiring famous model or celebrity in Bangkok? I mean i dont mind paying 10-20k baht just to have one night with them. 
Naturally, the necessary caution should be to not imagine that there are enough of others with similar tastes (or pockets) to make a market for a business. Jaded old-timers here have seen many a foreigner lose money by the bucketloads setting up bars and businesses to feed their personal fantasy rather than based on a hard-headed business plan. Please don't be the next one.
 

I find it hard to believe that the OP is serious. There are so many legal issues involved, it shouldn't even take any research to be skeptical about its viability. Consequently, and I don't mean to offend, my first reaction was that it was just meant to get a rise out of other readers.
I am intrigued by this. I hope your contact is not some out-of-work mamasan who dreams of making it big on your money.