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Well, well, I had no idea! You learn something  every day!

last Sept I had a 11hr 58min connection in HND on ANA and they tried to tell me I'd have to collect my luggage there and recheck because it was a long layover. I didn't want to do that and reminded them of the 12 hr rule and after she checked with a supervisor, they checked the bag thru to ORD so I could do Tokyo without luggage.

I do a lot of long layovers, mostly on purpose and have friends that work for United at ticket counters, flight attendants and ramp workers....all agree, with United at least, about the 12 hour rule or Overnight connections in the US. If I arrived in Houston for example at midnight and I have a 5am or later flight, I'd have to get my luggage and recheck it in the morning, they don't hold bags overnight.

Maybe Thai is different and I hope the OP reports back how it turned out.

 

Seems like that's the correct term after all.....


 
Group Names
Antelope: a herd
Ants: a colony or an army
Apes: a shrewdness
Baboons: a troop
Badgers: a cete
Bass: a shoal
Bats: a colony, cloud or cauldron
Bears: a sloth or sleuth; Cubs: a litter
Beavers: a colony
Bees: a swarm
Boar: a sounder
Boys: a gaggle or gaggles when there are multiple
Buffalo: a gang or obstinacy
Camels: a caravan
Caterpillars: an army
Cats: a clowder, glaring, pounce, nuisance or clutter; Kittens: a litter or kindle; Wild cats: a destruction
Cattle: a herd or drove
Cheetahs: a coalition
Chickens: a brood or peep; Chicks: a clutch or chattering
Clams: a bed
Cobras: a quiver
Colts: a rag
Cows: a kine, drove, herd or fold; twelve or more cows are a flink
Coyotes: a band
Cranes: a sedge
Crocodiles: a float or bask
Crows: a murder
Deer: a herd
Dogs: a pack or cowardice; Puppies: a litter
Dolphins: a pod
Donkeys: a drove
Doves: a dule
Ducks: a brace, paddling or team
Eagles: a convocation
Elephants: a herd or parade
Elk: a gang or herd
Emus: a mob
Falcons: a cast
Ferrets: a business or fesnyng
Finches: a charm
Fish: a school, shoal, run, haul or catch
Flamingos: a stand or flamboyance
Flies: a swarm, hatch or business
Foxes: a skulk or leash
Frogs: an army or a colony
Geese: a gaggle or flock, a skein when in flight
Giraffes: a tower
Gnats: a cloud or horde
Goats: a herd, tribe or trip
Goldfinches: a charm
Goldfish: a troubling
Gorillas: a band
Grasshoppers: a cloud
Greyhounds: a leach
Hares: a down or husk
Hawks: a cast or kettle
Hippopotami: a bloat or thunder
Hogs: a drift or parcel
Horses: a team or harras
Hounds: a pack, mute or cry
Hyenas: a cackle
Jaguars: a shadow
Jellyfish: a smack or brood
Kangaroos: a troop or mob
Larks: an ascension or exaltation
Lemurs: a conspiracy
Leopards: a leap
Lice: a flock
Lions: a pride
Locust: a plague or cloud
Magpies: a tiding or tittering
Mallards: a sord
Manatees: an aggregation
Mares: a stud
Martens: a richness
Minnows: a steam
Moles: a labor
Monkeys: a barrel, cartload or troop
Mules: a pack, barren or span
Nightingales: a watch
Otters: a family, romp or raft
Owls: a parliament
Oxen: a team or yoke
Oysters: a bed
Parrots: a pandemonium or company
Partridges: a covey
Peacocks: a muster or ostentation
Penguins: a colony
Pheasants: a nest, nide or bouquet
Pigeons: a flock or flights
Pigs: a drift or drove (younger pigs), or a sounder, litter or team (older pigs)
Ponies: a string
Porcupines: a prickle
Rabbits: a colony or warren
Raccoons: a gaze
Rats: a colony, pack, swarm or mischief
Rattlesnakes: a rhumba
Ravens: an unkindness
Rhinoceroses: a crash
Sharks: a shiver
Sheep: a drove or flock
Skunks: a stench
Snakes: a nest or knot
Sparrows: a host
Squirrels: a dray or scurry
Starlings: a murmuration
Stingrays: a fever
Storks: a mustering
Swans: a bevy or lamentation, a wedge when in flight 
Tigers: an ambush or a streak
Toads: a knot or knab
Trout: a hover
Turkeys: a gang, posse or rafter
Turtles: a bale or nest
Vultures: a venue
Wasps: a pledge
Weasels: a colony, gang or pack
Whales: a pod, school or gam
Wolves: a pack or route
Wombats: a wisdom
Woodpeckers: a descent
Zebras: a zeal

Seems like that's the correct term after all.....


 
Group Names
Antelope: a herd
Ants: a colony or an army
Apes: a shrewdness
Baboons: a troop
Badgers: a cete
Bass: a shoal
Bats: a colony, cloud or cauldron
Bears: a sloth or sleuth; Cubs: a litter
Beavers: a colony
Bees: a swarm
Boar: a sounder
Boys: a gaggle or gaggles when there are multiple
Buffalo: a gang or obstinacy
Camels: a caravan
Caterpillars: an army
Cats: a clowder, glaring, pounce, nuisance or clutter; Kittens: a litter or kindle; Wild cats: a destruction
Cattle: a herd or drove
Cheetahs: a coalition
Chickens: a brood or peep; Chicks: a clutch or chattering
Clams: a bed
Cobras: a quiver
Colts: a rag
Cows: a kine, drove, herd or fold; twelve or more cows are a flink
Coyotes: a band
Cranes: a sedge
Crocodiles: a float or bask
Crows: a murder
Deer: a herd
Dogs: a pack or cowardice; Puppies: a litter
Dolphins: a pod
Donkeys: a drove
Doves: a dule
Ducks: a brace, paddling or team
Eagles: a convocation
Elephants: a herd or parade
Elk: a gang or herd
Emus: a mob
Falcons: a cast
Ferrets: a business or fesnyng
Finches: a charm
Fish: a school, shoal, run, haul or catch
Flamingos: a stand or flamboyance
Flies: a swarm, hatch or business
Foxes: a skulk or leash
Frogs: an army or a colony
Geese: a gaggle or flock, a skein when in flight
Giraffes: a tower
Gnats: a cloud or horde
Goats: a herd, tribe or trip
Goldfinches: a charm
Goldfish: a troubling
Gorillas: a band
Grasshoppers: a cloud
Greyhounds: a leach
Hares: a down or husk
Hawks: a cast or kettle
Hippopotami: a bloat or thunder
Hogs: a drift or parcel
Horses: a team or harras
Hounds: a pack, mute or cry
Hyenas: a cackle
Jaguars: a shadow
Jellyfish: a smack or brood
Kangaroos: a troop or mob
Larks: an ascension or exaltation
Lemurs: a conspiracy
Leopards: a leap
Lice: a flock
Lions: a pride
Locust: a plague or cloud
Magpies: a tiding or tittering
Mallards: a sord
Manatees: an aggregation
Mares: a stud
Martens: a richness
Minnows: a steam
Moles: a labor
Monkeys: a barrel, cartload or troop
Mules: a pack, barren or span
Nightingales: a watch
Otters: a family, romp or raft
Owls: a parliament
Oxen: a team or yoke
Oysters: a bed
Parrots: a pandemonium or company
Partridges: a covey
Peacocks: a muster or ostentation
Penguins: a colony
Pheasants: a nest, nide or bouquet
Pigeons: a flock or flights
Pigs: a drift or drove (younger pigs), or a sounder, litter or team (older pigs)
Ponies: a string
Porcupines: a prickle
Rabbits: a colony or warren
Raccoons: a gaze
Rats: a colony, pack, swarm or mischief
Rattlesnakes: a rhumba
Ravens: an unkindness
Rhinoceroses: a crash
Sharks: a shiver
Sheep: a drove or flock
Skunks: a stench
Snakes: a nest or knot
Sparrows: a host
Squirrels: a dray or scurry
Starlings: a murmuration
Stingrays: a fever
Storks: a mustering
Swans: a bevy or lamentation, a wedge when in flight 
Tigers: an ambush or a streak
Toads: a knot or knab
Trout: a hover
Turkeys: a gang, posse or rafter
Turtles: a bale or nest
Vultures: a venue
Wasps: a pledge
Weasels: a colony, gang or pack
Whales: a pod, school or gam
Wolves: a pack or route
Wombats: a wisdom
Woodpeckers: a descent
Zebras: a zeal

I've stayed at Hampton Inn by Hilton Monterrey/Galerías-Obispado and also Tru by Hilton Monterrey Fundidora

No problems at either place....no contact info

 

That's where it gets tricky, because even a dinner or paying for uber is considered payment or gift......stay above 18+ and out of hot water, the prison stories aren't as hot as you think they are, however, they might be for you 😬

I think you're talking about expats of any age for chat, not sex.

If that's so, stop by Cock a 2 bar in Jomtien Complex. There is usually a lcommunal table set out front and the owner Rob, from Australia might be hosting various people that come and go, have a drink a chat....he's super friendly and likeable , you might even get to meet the notorious @gayinpattaya sitting there, he's really much nicer in person, just don't talk about politics with him , you'll walk away wondering , wtf just happened, lol

Just woke up! 

Laws vary from country to country and state to state. I'm not interested in having sex with anyone under 18, but if I were, I would research local laws very carefully. The age of consent may be under 18 in most places, but it may depend with whom and/or under what circumstances. It may be legal to have sex with a 16 year-old, but if he were to complain he was pressured, one could find oneself in deep doo-doo. Just stick to men 18+, and don't stay up all night worrying. I was certainly willing and able to consent when I was 16, but the law can get tricky.

I think you're talking about expats of any age for chat, not sex.

If that's so, stop by Cock a 2 bar in Jomtien Complex. There is usually a lcommunal table set out front and the owner Rob, from Australia might be hosting various people that come and go, have a drink a chat....he's super friendly and likeable , you might even get to meet the notorious @gayinpattaya sitting there, he's really much nicer in person, just don't talk about politics with him , you'll walk away wondering , wtf just happened, lol

Punctual and ready for beers, sounds good to me...

That's where it gets tricky, because even a dinner or paying for uber is considered payment or gift......stay above 18+ and out of hot water, the prison stories aren't as hot as you think they are, however, they might be for you 😬

Honor amongst thieves might be more typical than Honor amongst whores 😆

Thru United's site.... the trick is to change the country that you are purchasing from, Philippines and Mexico offered the same fare, originating in Manila to Boston r/t, 3400usd rt in Business, whereas if I bought it from the US website, it was over 6500 usd.

So I'd check flights from BKK as if you were buying it in THB

I think you're talking about expats of any age for chat, not sex.

If that's so, stop by Cock a 2 bar in Jomtien Complex. There is usually a lcommunal table set out front and the owner Rob, from Australia might be hosting various people that come and go, have a drink a chat....he's super friendly and likeable , you might even get to meet the notorious @gayinpattaya sitting there, he's really much nicer in person, just don't talk about politics with him , you'll walk away wondering , wtf just happened, lol

Honor amongst thieves might be more typical than Honor amongst whores 😆

Bangkok also have a few that still have plenty of boys that will be available for you to choose inside the center. One in particular, has no pic of masseur available through website or line. Reason was to protect their masseurs confidentiality. Arena has never disappoint me though with their selection of hunks muscular masseurs available. 
Vck on the other hand, has both line updates of who is available on the day, and very large number of boys available on site. 
Similar can be said for massage places in silom soi 6, where most available masseurs will be there for choosing. But their line also have listing of boys, but might not be updated.
I actually prefer to go and choose the guy myself, given that tendency of inaccurate/old pics is high, but jeyspa and vck photos are quite accurate, thus for these two, id usually book ahead. 
For arena, early booking is possible if u know the massuer's name. 

Day 2
 Turned out not a bad meeting. He was not in rush in the morning which I like and was clearly happy with his tip and immediately asked about repeat tonight. I was politely noncommitted , if only because T  suggested tonight he will be free to come.
He left at 9.30 , declined hotel breakfast invitation so I had it alone. It started raining but I promised bkkmfj I will buy tickets to Swampy  for noon tomorrow so off I went, it was just rain , not tropical deluge. There’s bank by bus stion so I went there to exchange 100 euro and  asked to get it all , 4400 in red notes to which they happily obliged.   I need something to stuff my multiple pockets I guess.
 When approaching hotel surprisingly T emerged from the alley on his way to the shop. I gave him 300 massage fee and asked him to come to my room in few minutes. We both were happy with such reunion. Of course I secured his presence for long time tonight. He promised to show up at end of his shift after closing the shop. Then jet lag reminded about it’s existence and I slept rest of day till dark.
Next step was another trip to Boyztown hoping that tattooed hunk , noticed last evening, will be offering his massages today as well.
As soon as I approached soi I saw him and noticed increase heart beat rate. 1.5 hr for 1500 was his charge and I motioned him to go. In short, one of best things I did this trip. Body was superb and so was massage. He also had well developed 6th sense and noticed what I like and what I don’t. When time come to turn over I suggested that he must be tired so we better skip that part in exchange for not exactly hand holding session. Wow as they say. If I stay in Pattaya longer I guess I know what I will be spending my time with. Not only I liked him but also was impressed by personality , body and skills.
 After that memorable session I went to BoyzBoyzBoyz for a show welcomed my mamasan who recognized me from days of old and mentioned names of at least  two boys I offed from there in the past.  Scene was packed but with exception of two bare-chested, all boys were fully dressed, jeans and long sleeves. Bar was ¾ full , mostly with usual Chinese visitors and quite a few boys were sitting with girls and drinking. Another reminder that this is boy, not gay bar.
Art, one of bare chested  got a tip , another went to guy who tried to get my attention by smiling in my direction, both by way of patented Vinapu tuck. Show was similar to one I saw multiple times  but BBoys were impressive as always.
I was set for tonight but with off fee of 1000 baht even if I weren’t I’d not be in mood to off from there. While going to songtaew I noticed impressive hunk outside of ABomb. That would be worth 1000 baht off fee perhaps.
I arrived in Agate few minutes before agreed time  and T showed up in few minutes, suggested he will go and buy some beers and managed to do it somewhere even if it was past midnight deadline. I decided not to ask any questions where . We had great time together, so great that when I waked up it was 11.28 am.
 

Title was not misleading for me - as it was truly a Boot Camp experience for me.
The "training" and information sharing that you gave me in BKK is invaluable.
Thanks again Vinapu - I look forward to the next segments of your/our trip - as I love reliving it.

Finally we get to read your trip report!

Tittle is misleading  but was given to this trip by our member bkkmfj who accompanied me  to Bangkok during this short, 2 days in Pattaya and 6 in Bangkok trip to Thailand  last month. I think only terrorizing part were 3 hotel changes three days in row but I booked those before he decided to join in and to sweeten whole thing , all were walking distance from each other.
Day 1
This time I arrived by KLM from Amsterdam and arrival time was great , at 9.30 in the morning.
There was no line up to immigration at all, I just walked in to get stamped and had even option of choosing one of three officers. No waiting for luggage as I was with carry on only. Buying SIM card took few minutes and I found myself with almost 2 hours to kill before my Jomtien bus departure scheduled at noon.
This trip I decided to try something new for me i.e. going to Pattaya straight from airport. With excess time  I went to train station to exchange  some money, then ate something in coupon restaurant by gate 8 and went to the booth to exchange my bus reservation for an actual ticked as instructed when booked on website.
I got moment of enlightenment since it was 10.45 and asked if I can get  seat on 11.00 am bus. Luckily , there was seat but I was charged extra 50 baht for changing reservation.
 Around 1 pm I was already marching to Agate hotel in Jomtien Complex where room was already waiting for me. After desoiling    I went to 7/11 across the street for some goodies and decided to see N, my semi regular there at his massage place nearby.
 No sign of him, as I learned later he went to see his folks at home for few days but consolation was at hand at the same shop. T, whom I never got pleasure with before but got good feedback about from one of our members was at hand so of we went for 1.5 hr session, 400+1200 tip. I was happy to discover that  recommendation was very accurate. Got his Line with intention of asking him for long time in case none of guys I was hoping to see at Dreamboys would not be available. Either tonight or tomorrow.
 It was darkening when I took songtaew to Boyztown where I had a dinner is one of Indian restaurants there. Chicken with cashews there had some distinctive taste   likely due to use some Indian spices but it was great tasting anyways.
 Then to Copa to claim my room. As advised in some thread in spring , in Pattaya to avoid travelling between Jomtien and Boyztown  I often rent cheap 2nd room at either end. Handy just in case either boy or myself doesn’t feel like traveling in the middle of the night.
  As mentioned above I hoped to see #36 and #37 at Dreamboys. #36 was my outstanding  companion when I was there in January. I did not have pleasure with #37 then   but saw him in the bar waiting for his customer and he was extremely handsome HUNK. On top of that I got recommendation from trusted  member who had better luck and engaged him at Christmas time.
 After obtaining key I parked myself with beer on Copa’s terrace where shortly bkkmfj joined me for a chat and ironing our trip to Bangkok after tomorrow. We both noticed very attractive tattooed massage freelancer  offering his services in the soi while sitting on his motorbike.
 At  10pm we went to Dreamboys , me full of hope and excited with anticipation but as soon as we sat down it  was explained to me that neither boys I planned to see is no longer there.
 So much about dreaming about boys at home, first day and already 3 boys from the list MIA.
Disappointed , after we emptied our drinks I suggested checking show at Xboys and it was great idea as show was very progressive with, ahem, some risky numbers. A , veteran there recognized me  but still smarting after Dreamboys fiasco I was in no mood to take him with me tonight although he is worth every penny he may ask for. Great body and personality as well as very qualified to participate in big c…k show.
We returned to Jomtien complex where I have some hope, guy I saw on Grinder, hunk who likes kissing by his own admission on the profile. Bkkmfj knew who I’m talking about and even knew bar he is usually sitting but at that time of night he was gone. Another disappointment.
 But wait, I still have Line of T, the masseur and it was time when his shift should be over so I lined him but answer was “cannot tonight , can tomorrow “ . Ouch. So I gave up hope of having somebody tonight and went to 7/11 to eat problem out with some sandwich. Then I got stubborn and while munching outside hotel I fired up Grindr and found somebody I liked.
 “ I sleep with you if you give me money “ was the answer to obvious question. How much ? 1500. Waiting for you said I. In 10 minutes he showed up. Not looking exactly as in profile with face less cute but built more substantial than I anticipated.  So off we went to my room to check recent acquisition to my and his stamp collections. And it’s how day 1 was over.

Honor amongst thieves might be more typical than Honor amongst whores 😆

Interestingly, on one occasion, a boy I had brought to the hotel for short time, and enjoyed, turned up at breakfast the following  morning with another farang,  and did grin at me!

On several occasions and particularly at the meridien, I've been at breakfast and seen another farang with a guest that has caught my attention and got my blood flowing. The temptation to visit the same breakfast section the guy was at to try to discretely ask for a Line contact has been there, but I agree with Vinapu, it's poor form. I wouldn't like it done to me, so I wouldn't do it to another.
If you see him leaving the hotel alone I'd consider it fair game, but while it's someone else's turn, best to let them enjoy their time and leave it alone. You never know if they have a LLT/bf arrangement or if the farang might have an emotional attachment that could cause him to become upset by it.

still removed from tipping and offing list, last trip I did not even stop at that bar once