[Street Party in Boyztown Pattaya ..]

Places like Toy Boys have always (at least in recent years) marketed themselves as 'boy bars' rather than just gay bars and female customers were always more than welcomed. Not that all the boys were quite so enthusiastic about that. I recall that one night, on a recent holiday, one of my regulars, a very handsome gay boy, broke off from his group of ladies that he was partying with in Toy Boys to come and have a quick word for a couple of minutes. I asked him if he was having a good time and he wrinkled his nose with a pained expression as he complained 'tonight I have to fuck lady' haha

[Gay Guides - New Look and Feel Coming]

Election just been called for Biden, I gather that Trump is playing golf in Virginian

 

[Gay Guides - New Look and Feel Coming]

4 hours ago, Michael said:

My goodness. Don't start a me too movement here. I would have to join in and I have no time.

It is being worked on by programmers but it is the weekend so I don't know when it will be fixed. I have told them they can concentrate on it more once the American election is called and the losing candidate gives a concession speech. So, I'm sure it will be very soon!

I was feeling quite reassured until we got to 'and the loosing candidate gives a concession speech.'  and then my heart sank.

If things play out as seems likely I can't see a certain loosing candidate ever giving a concession speech......  haha

[Gay Guides - New Look and Feel Coming]

36 minutes ago, z909 said:

At present, when I try and load the "Photoshoots of Models" thread, I just get a blank screen and nothing loads.

Does anyone else have the same issue ?

I doubt it's my PC (i5 + 16GB RAM + Windows 10 ought to be adequate)

Cant get on it either, which is a pity as it is probably the most popular thread on the entire forum.

[Street Party in Boyztown Pattaya ..]

Well done for the report and even more well done for your generosity in tips, they must have been deeply appreciated.

I had been alerted that Toy Boys might re-open, although I have also been told that it might only be short-term before hibernation resumes, but its only hearsay. 

[Us election Biden V Trump]

From my side of the pond, I remain astonished that they couldn't have found two better candidates to contest what is arguably the world's top job!

Our news channels are dominated by it (at least it has temporarily knocked Covid19 off the top spot!). Last night I was watching one lot of Trump supporters outside an count screaming 'stop the count' (Trump was currently ahead), and then another lot of Trump supporters screaming 'count every vote' (Trump was currently behind).  Lawyers on both sides rubbing their hands and Trump confident that if it ends up in the Supreme Court it will now go his way. If he ends up going, it won't be quietly! No chance of him being magnanimous in defeat, if defeat it is..

At least it makes me feel quite proud of the UK system for all its foibles. 

[Gay Guides - New Look and Feel Coming]

2 hours ago, z909 said:

 It's not unknown for people to adjust their declared age, but I believe it normally involves reducing the age on apps like Grindr.  

 

Really?, so other people do that too? Haha

[Gay Guides - New Look and Feel Coming]

8 hours ago, Michael said:

Over 9,000 inactive members deleted today. If you were one of them, you will need to recreate your account.

Anyone left ?

 

(Sorry - couldn't resist!  Although actually I have no idea what the membership numbers are/were. Hardly anyone posting these days  )

  

[@Home Bar Anniversary Party]

I love @Home Bar, it is one of the best bars in the Jomtien Complex. It is a well managed and friendly environment with lots of lovely boys there.

You were also there, handing out free food earlier in the year to 100s of people each day.

Sadly I shall be 6,000 miles away for your party, maybe you can post some clips of it on YouTube, or Live on FaceBook.

I look forward to visiting again once travel restrictions to the kingdom are lifted. 

[Pattaya Boyztown: end of an era?]

Because BoyzTown could successfully attract legions of foreign tourists perhaps, its beer prices were significantly higher than other gay venues such as Sunee and Jomtien Complex. 

Now that gay establishements are largely having to try and survive on the ex-Pat community, is it really any wonder that it is Sunee and JC with their cheaper beers that are keeping their heads above water (just), while BT looks like a ghost town?

One of the long-standing boys at Toy Boys tells me that his boss has effectively mothballed the place until there is a significant upturn in tourists, a sort of survival-mode hibernation. Whether the same is true of other B T bars I cannot say. 

[Why this farce?]

7 hours ago, Travellerdave said:

Z909 your last post resonates with me. In the distant past many of the talented people you mention would have been motivated to go into politics both local and national. Very few do that now particularly into local government. The standard of local elected leaders in the U.K. is usually very low. Mainly they are people that have not succeeded in any other field and have a lot of time on their hands. The problem is that the people you mention don’t want to stand for election. A previous mayor of our town told me that he had frequented suggested to good prospects that they might like to stand only to get a negative response.

It is true that English Local Government can produce a very broad spectrum of elected Councillors, and yes, attracting prospective candidates can be problematic. But that broad spectrum can include people from a very wide range of backgrounds and work experiences at all levels from shop-floor to management, from the professions and from the self employed and just about anywhere inbetween. Many retirees become Councillors, and precisely because they have a lot of time on their hands, but they bring with them a lifetime of experience. For me the one principal saving grace about local Councillors is that most, regardless of political persuasion, are there motivated with a simple desire to benefit their own local communities, rather than see their role as a stepping stone to higher political ambitions.

But what of Thai local government? Does anyone have any experience or understanding about how it works, and what sort of people fill City Hall in Pattaya for example? And what sort of influence and decisions they can take a local level?

[Which Bars?]

1 hour ago, Travellerdave said:

I think reminiscing like this is a small antidote to the pain we feel at not being able to travel to the places we love.

 

Thanks that was absolutely my intention,

As to my 'parameters' take them as broadly as you wish - its just a bit of fun to share what we are missing the most and hoping will still be there when we get back. 

[Which Bars?]

So as the tumbleweed blows lazily across this and other forums as we all remain 'confined to barracks' for the foreseeable futue, a little bit of fun perhaps - definitely not to be taken too seriously.

Bars are closing or being mothballed around the town and, stuck at home, we fear for what, of the places we know and love,  that we might still find open and available to us when we eventually return.

So I am giving you now the power to ensure that your two favourite bars will survive and remain open to you once you are back. 

So which two Pattaya Bars would you choose and why?  (I am saying two only because I couldn't decide between the two that I would choose from). It could be location of course, it could be ambience, it could be boys (or a particular boy perhaps), it could be drink prices, it could be a great meeting place. Which two would you miss the most if they were gone?

Ex Pats can obviously take part - although your perspective is probably different haha.

 

For my part both mine would be in Sunee Plaza. Neither picture is mine - both pinched from Google.

The first Nice Boys,

 

 

That wonderfully depraived and joyous boy bar. Boys in their loose-fitting pants, and usually less. Appendages of varying length and thickness everywhere to be paraded on stage and handled for small considerations. Boys sitting aside you with a drink out and pants down. First to cum competitions for the stage boys with your 300 baht cash prize, a boy rushing over with cum in his hand to prove what you have just witnessed. Looks of disappointment from the others so another 300 baht into a wooden bin-cup tapped smartly on the table by the mamasan that gets all their hands working in furious action again. Lights full on so your depravities with the boy next to you are there for all to vicariously share in.  Had one occasion with a boy sitting either side of me, pants down and with both my hands fully 'occupied' - and with the lad on my right being kind enough to lift my beer bottle to my mouth so I could drink keeping both hands going. 100 or 200 baht for just a lenghty play, 300 baht if you got got them to a finish. With the closure of Eros and Good Boys, such happy depravity is rare to find in Pattaya now.  Gay Pattaya without Nice Boys would be far less enticiung for me!   As to boys, currently Nice Boys is home to the legendary Dui!, those that know him will understand, those that dont - well you need to go and find out! Oh god but I love that boy!

 

 

The Second, is Winner Boys

 

 

If Nice Boys is a boy bar, then Winner Boys is a twink bar par excellence. A darker ambiance with dark corners and modesty cushions for those who want to get (really) better aquainted with the boy that has come over to drink with you. Small Twinks in small pants dancing on stage - the very thought can 'stiffen the sinews' even from 6,000 miles away!   Some boys are naturally 'friendlier' than others, but here these modesty cushions are available to hide active hands or mouths (yours or theirs - I have seen both) while you enjoy your beer; the expected rewards being similar to those of Nice Boys I recall. Currently home to two other of my favourite boys Dah and Nam - again those that know, know etc etc. haha.

 

Both bars are great fun and given the parlous state of Sunee bars generally, I can only hope that both will still be around on my return - whenever that will be.

 

[Why this farce?]

All UK consituencies, and local government wards have their boundaries reviewed every few years to try and ensure a level of equality of size of population, although in sparsly populated rural areas that becomes more problematic.

All candidates have comparatively modest, legally set ceilings on their individual election expenses, although political parties do not. Anyone can stand at a local election providing they can get a relatively small number of signatures on a nomination paper. The same is true for parlimentary candidates, although they have to put up a deposit (still relatively modest) that is returnable win or loose providing they get a small minimum number of votes. 

So in the UK money only has a significant role in the blanket advertising etc that political parties can put forward at election times.

It does seem though that in the USA candidates can spend what they like and go to town on outspending each other, so individual 'donors' can become critically important to candidates.

UK television news and political discussion is heavily centred at the moment on the US presidential elections and I must say, as an outsider looking in, that I am astonished that from out of so great a country as the USA, these two candidates were the best it could up with.

[WHERE TO GO THIS WINTER ?]

Gentlemen, there seems to be no corner of the earth at the moment that offers gay opportunities but at the same time is risk free from Corvid19 virus.

I therefore offer two possible solutions to those with blue balls, deep pockets, and a sense of adventure!

First we have the all-body condom. Complete with hood (not illustrated) it offers 100% protection for as long as you can hold your breath, although it may prove a little hot inside and tricky to clean-out between uses. 

 

 

If that doesn't appeal then kit-out the twink of your choice with the full PPE money-boy outfit! Not very flattering perhaps but allows relatively safe and immediate access to the important bits!

 

 

Go enjoy, but above all, stay safe!

[Questions, Queries and Birthdays]

Many of the bar boys seem almost nocturnal - so 4am is nothing for them - just time to move onto the Karaoke bars which can stay open until 7am or later before spilling out onto the streets.

Console yourself with the probability that your boy gained considerable face (at your expense it is true) with the whisky and the general boy tips you disbursed.

Sounds to me like a grand night out with a basically good boy.

Stuck here in the UK I envy you. 

[Cupidol Pattaya]

Cupidol posts regularly on Facebook, and always happy to 'like' their posts, however they do keep continually recycling old pictures, many several years old. Were we, by some miracle, able to return to visit the bar tonight I doubt we would recognise any of the boys shown on their 'recent' publicity pictures.

That said, it seems a failing of so many of Pattaya's boy bars - just keep churning out the same old photographs year after year - Eros was terrible for that. Only X-Boys seems to occasionally update its pictures and clips.

Contrast that with the girl bars of Soi 6 where, for example, the ferocious publicity machine of the NightWish group keeps a constant stream of pictures posted of new arrivals, return of old favourites, etc., a consequence being that they are still attracting a steady stream of (admittedly mostly exPat) customers during these dark months.

[Loving the Boys at Ogasms Spa in Gay Bangkok]

I didn't need to scroll down any further than the first pic (although I obviously did haha). Wow, now he would do for me - if only I could get there that is!  

[Thailand to recruit 10K English teachers]

Do we have anyone here who has direct experience of taking up such a post and could advise on the benefits/pitfalls of such a job? Qualifications needed, experience needed etc etc.

[Rate for 10 Day Trip]

Not quite comparable you might argue, but I had a Pattaya agogo lad stay with me for two weeks last trip as my long-time and paid him 2k baht a day plus his off-fee of 600 baht a night.

We went out,  partied, shopped occasionally, various trips and went out bar-hopping each night together, and he was content, indeed happy, with his remuneration.

In fairness, although he works bar, he is heavily sponsored and was not short of cash.

But with you providing quality resort hotel, well fed and entertained for 10 days in the current financial/tourist climate, he might well have snatched your hand off for 1k baht day.

[Le Stud boy club in Walking Street area..]

As far as I know one of the guys that was involved with G-Star is now involved in this venture and it appears to be following a very similar model. There is probably a whole story behind that which I am unaware of.

One or two of my Thai/Cambodian friends have been visiting and like it - the bottles of whisky they share probably help with that haha.

[Are the GoGo Boys Returning?]

3 hours ago, williewillie said:

 

I just noticed a small circle with a + symbol followed by 1,000, just above number posts.  What’s it for?

 

As far as I know it records the number of 'likes' your posts have attracted.

 

As to the topic, I have a number of boys that I keep in touch with through Facebook and Messenger. Many left Pattaya during the first phase of the virus and went back home, although a few hung-on.

Of those that left all tried to return from home when it became possible for the bars to re-open, but they found few if any customers. Some of the bars in BoyzTown for example soon closed again, or only re-opened at weekends etc.

Those on the ground will know far better than me, but the impression I have from my boys is that Jomtien Complex has fared best, one or two bars in Sunee, such as Nice Boys or Winner Boys, are just about doing ok, but those of Boyztown have fared worst.  Consequently a number of my friends having tried to return to work in Pattaya have given up again and either gone back home again or decided to try their luck in Bangkok instead.

I am using Western Union to help three, or occasionally four, but cannot afford to do more than that despite their pleas.

[Uk to Bangkok....and back?]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel

And yet Thailand appears to make this list?

I am confused  

[Despair ... And Suicide]

Michael, you can happily send me 10 to England LOL, my house is big enough. LOL

Seriously though, of my regulars, of which there are about 10, all have either asked me directly for money, or implied that they need money over the last few months.

Now nothing really new in that, it was always a common plea in Low Season pre-Covid.

And I do occasionally weaken and reach for the Western Union App on my phone. The tricky bit is sorting out the deserving poor, from the undeserving 'poor'.  By that I mean those who really are desitute from those who would like you believe that they are destitute; and that isn't always easy.

For example, one of my main squeezes was asking for money for 'beer' the other day. Now I know for a fact that he has two active sponsors that bring him in 30k + a month, and his FB is peppered with pictures of drinking with his friends (Red Label of course as befits any self-respecting money boy haha) while he dangles his gold jewelry to the camera.  Others are probably more in need, but there again they were to be found posting on FB about their dire impovrishment months before Covid. 

I do send modest sums every now and then, but the trick, like I said, is trying to decide where it is actually most needed. 

[2 Strikes and a Homerun]

I have never had all that much success with the 'Apps' in terms of successful meet-ups, although I accept that right this moment it is probably the only way to go.  

Give me the bar-room interview over a drink any day of the week before deciding whether to pay bar for the lad or not. Only that way can I gauge whether boy is sufficiently 'in to me' or not to give a good time. We can talk expectations - on both sides, and a mamasan is usually around to translate if required (they have heard it all before haha).