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8 hours ago, unicorn said:
Something may be lost in the translation, but in the US, a lawsuit typically refers to a civil case. Offering money to drop a lawsuit is generally called a settlement, and usually quite legal.
different countries may have different legal systems. In some offering money not to start lawsuit would be legal only before case is launched. As soon a s....t hits the fan it's crime
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21 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:
Is that only when your on holiday in Thailand?
Obviously in normal day to day life your in bed earlier?
You retired from work I think you said recently
No, 11.45 is my usual bed time , rarely earlier.
On holidays likely much later, not only in Thailand. I'm strong believer that less you sleep on vacations , longer your vacations are so often I'm terrorizing my long time companions into early 7 am breakfast.
I like rise early too, there's price for it , hours between 6-9 pm are my worst and never ask me for loan at that time, decline is sure thing. After 9 I come back to life
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Jey Spa is now in soi 43 , moved there from soi 41 well before covid debacle.
I had always good experience there in both old and new location and I'm shocked by Oz findings. I wonder who that boy was, perhaps some new , still untrained or God forbid, some hard nosed popular veteran ?.
2 hours ago, roughjock said:Did the boy at least remove his clothing?
I'm curious too, if he did not , that would be disaster as there usually it's first thing they do after closing door.
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3 hours ago, reader said:
Pattaya City has installed signs instruction pedestrians to raise their hand when wanting to cross the road at zebra crossings. This may seem unusual or even humorous at first glance, but it is a serious attempt to address pedestrian safety concerns in some areas. The concept behind this approach is to encourage drivers to yield to pedestrians by visually signalling their intention to cross.
Time will do it's magic. I recall very well when similar idea was raised in country where my sister lives, it was met with laughs at first but after a while it caught on. First pedestrians were shocked that cars stopped, now they are shocked when they don't and this is vary rare occurrence indeed.
Of course hefty penalties and their zealous enforcement sped up that implementation of that module of educating public, both driving and walking.
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2 hours ago, roughjock said:
HELLO WELCOME!
Tomorrow night I will try and off one of these Tawan guys. My plan is to approach them and say "Are you from Tawan?" and negotiate from there. I am hoping they take 2500 THB for a no sex muscle worship session. Honestly, I just want to massage one of their bodies. My likes are particular. I find that rate reasonable but expect to be taken for much more. I'll report back.
I think you are right 2500 for short time is quite generous considering that they even don't have bar to work in now.
I wish you luck and waiting for report. I always maintain that Tawan bay was most friendly of them all and their boys were very approachable.
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12 minutes ago, roughjock said:
These responses are eye-opening! I'm better equipped now and will off someone again soon. Sounds like I should head to Pattaya- muscular guys easy to find there?
not as easy as Bangkok, Pattaya is rather twink kingdom but you will find some hunks in BoyzBoyzBoyz, Dreamboys and Xboys. Forget about Sunee but in passing I saw few hunky guys in Jomtien too.
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5 hours ago, Aiccenboy said:
All I found on google about Gecko is Gecko Nail Salon and Massage. Is this the correct one?
yes
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40 minutes ago, roughjock said:
! Hopefully he doesn't feel bad getting a lower tip on the second round, I will be a repeat customer this month anyway. I'll offer 1500 next.
he won't be feeling bad because 1500 is generous tip anyways but chances are he will mention that last time you gave 2000 and may ask whet is wrong. Happened to me with boy in Maha massage soi 6, bit of awkward situation. Me being me answered plainly ' nothing wrong with you but with me, I used to be generous but now I'm stingy" .
That sufficed for explanation and even generated smile
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6 minutes ago, roughjock said:
Thank you as well! I haven't tried Long Time yet, maybe in the future since the pricing doesn't seem far off from what I'm paying for Short Time. I'm also unaware of how long a boy expects to stay.
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My encounters have all been an hour or less, but that's because most have been disappointing.
Long time I'm big fan of is not for everybody though. You and boy must be both comfortable with each other and higher amount of trust is required. After all each one of you is with stranger during possibly deep sleep stage. At times you may sense that boys may show some hesitation
I tell them always that long time is till breakfast and it's mine breakfast , not theirs, even if it's my habit always offer them a breakfast as listening to my snoring may be hunger inducing. In exchange nothing beats waking up to a warm body beside or even better wrapped around me.
If boy will start making excuses in middle of the night that he needs to go outside because is hungry or needs to smoke, no sense to chain him but definitely not a time to pay him agreed fee. Give them your short time rate and point that rest of tip they get in the morning - chances are they wont return and really - you don't want them to with such an attitude.
Try not to go long time with boy you are taking for first time as chances are you guys ay not be compatible.
6 minutes ago, roughjock said:Research phase, I'im telling myself.
That is proper attitude instead of getting bitter feeling you are ripped off. Costly lesson with that Screwboy though.
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6 hours ago, roughjock said:
Can someone please chime in with what you usually pay (2500 THB is the lowest I've been offered, upwards to 6000 THB- no, I didn't book them)
I rarely do short time preferring massage to that but in Bangkok I would not pay more than 2000 unless guy is already time tested by me then I may throw 500 more. There are few guys I paid more but those were long short times 3-5 hrs but those are exceptional specimens either body or chemistry wise.
Long times 3000-5000 which is my upper limit for tip , 3500-4000 most common. Only once I paid 6000 but that way kind of good bye send off as I decided not to off him again even if I did many times in the past. Instead of haggling down I decided to part ways on generous side.
In Pattaya 1500 st , 2000, sometimes 3000 LT
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I'm not interested in Songkran this year but when combing through that Grindr just for fun I noticed that most visitors in BKK are declaring they will be leaving on 16th or 17th , so my guess is the same like reader's above.
Reliable sources in the know are saying that soi 4 is water dry area in that period
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4 hours ago, Olddaddy said:
When exactly was the "Golden Age,"?
it's always in the past.
Wait till 2030 and you will hear 2024 , that was a year!!! Cheap drinks and off fees at 500, and long time tips paltry 3000-5000. And nobody will mention that baht was 36/ USD in 2024 , not 136 as now
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no compassion here from me. Smell is one thing but more important is discarding improperly extinguished cigarette.
Behavior also not fair to other smokers who manage somehow to hold on indulgence until deplaning
- KeepItReal, reader and Ruthrieston
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2 hours ago, 12is12 said:
I think that's the flag of madgascar
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1 hour ago, Tomtravel said:
....... the pain which was of course very present in the various sex movements.
no pain, no gain as they say
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18 minutes ago, reader said:
He wanted to stand out from the crowd...and looks like i worked.🙂
you mean " it worked" ?
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3 hours ago, roughjock said:
Not as old as most of you here,
I, for one, take consolation in fact that Troy is older than me, 555 ( ha, ha, ha).
As for communication with boys fortunately rarely we discuss with them merits of Thailand adopting riel as currency or Thai politics during II World War so it's fairly easy. They more or less know what we want and we more or less know whet they expect in exchange.
What I found handy to break the ice is to take some interest in them. Even if language barrier prevents us from asking what city they are from or do they have siblings etc I always try to point on something they are wearing ( shoes, watch, t-shirt , tattoo) and thump it up showing I pay attention to them , not only their bulge.
It may even pay in some benefit, when I asked boy from now defunct New Twilight what simple tattoo on his chest means ( names of his parents ) he proclaimed " ok, long time ok ' even if declined idea just two sips of cola before.
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5 hours ago, Olddaddy said:You like it better now?
But ......there's only one Go Go bar in Sunee Plaza now?😲
No dispute that there were more choices in the past. But did most of us really used it? Perhaps expats or people on 3 months vacations.
I like it better now because it's now and presents options I can use currently.
Boys I was drooling about 10 years ago now are often balding , developing respectable waist size and often trying to forget about their past job.
For me no memory substitutes for moment I'm entering bar and spa now, curious as ever what I will find on other side of door . If I dream I rather visualize my first walk next trip through soi 4 toward Jupiter on my way greeted by owner of G'Bangkok or barkers at Banana then recall some exciting first walk through soi Twilight bak in 2015 as much as I miss it. But it's gone .
On merit of Sunee it's easy for me as I never really considered the place substitute to my more favorable digs - Boyztown. I liked Good Boys though but still can't say I missed it since it's not there anymore.
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9 hours ago, Olddaddy said:
I loved Neal , Roseanne 's husband as he liked to be known.
No one actually knew where he is interned
if memory serves me well he died on the flight to USA so likely found his final rest somewhere there
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4 hours ago, xpaulo said:
But I wonder if financial stress and/or homesickness sometimes leads to violent or just generally nasty behaviour from those who had to work to contain their emotions at home.
even if that is the case , it's not excuse to an any degree for getting physical.
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Like JackR said above don't get discouraged by bad experience. It happened to all of us , even very experienced ones.
Skill of navigating system comes only with experience and training yourself with help of what you learn here on forum.
Keep in mind though we posters are showing world as we see through our lenses. Every bar and every boy in them will be either top of the line , not to be missed for some but also run for others.
I said this billion times on this forum that my best and second worst encounter was with the same Tawan boy two years apart
No doubt guy you offed from Screwboys acted as an asshole. As professional he sensed that you are new to the scene and skilfully milked you of money (and some other stuff I gather, as well ). Those things happed but they are rare.
Sometimes we lose head in heat of the moment and ignore warning signals, sometimes we see them but still feel like acting fair by keeping our side of bargain , usually to regret it later.
For me one of those is when boy or mamasan marketing him seem to be too eager or too pushy.
Check your bin in the bar and don't assume you already paid for this or that. If they see you careless with money they may exploit it. If you have doubt, ask.
Thais on the street are very honest bunch but inside of bars many morals are taking back seat in the corner.
You seem to be surprised by advice that you should tip boy sitting with you if you bought him a drink already. Out of that drink he may get 20-50 baht , in few bars only as much as 100. In meantime you are holding him beside, scaring of other prospective customers. It's why you should tip him, at least to compensate for possible loss of earnings.
You will see it for yourself, boy of your dreams sitting with some customer while you are salivating , praying that old , fat troll will go home in 5 minutes.
As Spoon advised above , if you are subsequently taking boy with you, no need to tip him even if you had him sitting for prolonged time.
hope it helped and have luck with Tawan guys