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When these boys are caught over-staying, nothing much happens to them the same as happens to farang over-stayers.  Most of the time, if anything happens at all, they are merely sent back to their home country.  And it won't be long before they're right back, whether they entered legally or not.

No matter what reasons to take a boy off from a bar, whether sex is involved or not, you are still obligated to give him the same full tip amount that you would for taking him off for sex.  Don't cheapskate him on his tip.  The tip is the primary reason he agrees to go off with you.  Don't forget that.
The only exception, in my opinion, would be if he knows what to expect and why you are taking him and agrees to take a lesser tip or forfeit his tip entirely. Make certain it is clear to him, fully understood, and agreed before you take him off.
Communicating with him should not be a problem these days.  There are several good apps out there in which you can type in and/or speak English into the app and it will translate for him into Thai - and vice versa.  He can speak into the app and what he says will translate into English.  What comes out is not always perfectly accurate, but close enough.
My personal favorite translator app is Voice Tra, but again, there are plenty of others. Give them a try.

Good question.  It makes no sense.  Meanwhile Thailand is offering all kinds of incentives trying to get Chinese tourists to come back, and so far it is failing miserably.  The Chinese tourist numbers are way down.
Farang expats living in Thailand have similar questions.  Here we are, living here, spending virtually all of our money here, and yet every time we turn around they're coming up with things that make it more difficult for us.  In Pattaya, now it's the requirement to have a TM-30 receipt in our passports in order to get service from immigration.  That is not always so easy to obtain and in all these years has never been a requirement.  Now suddenly it is.  No explanation as to why.  No advance notice.  Nothing about who came up with this.  But without that receipt Pattaya immigration will refuse expats any service, including extending our retirement visas.
Changing the rules without notice is nothing new with immigration.  They've done that several times before and sooner or later they'll do it again.

Unless you are on 1 year or more visas, such as the retirement visa, as it stands now, no matter how you do it the maximum number of days you can stay in Thailand per year is 180.

No matter what reasons to take a boy off from a bar, whether sex is involved or not, you are still obligated to give him the same full tip amount that you would for taking him off for sex.  Don't cheapskate him on his tip.  The tip is the primary reason he agrees to go off with you.  Don't forget that.
The only exception, in my opinion, would be if he knows what to expect and why you are taking him and agrees to take a lesser tip or forfeit his tip entirely. Make certain it is clear to him, fully understood, and agreed before you take him off.
Communicating with him should not be a problem these days.  There are several good apps out there in which you can type in and/or speak English into the app and it will translate for him into Thai - and vice versa.  He can speak into the app and what he says will translate into English.  What comes out is not always perfectly accurate, but close enough.
My personal favorite translator app is Voice Tra, but again, there are plenty of others. Give them a try.

No matter what reasons to take a boy off from a bar, whether sex is involved or not, you are still obligated to give him the same full tip amount that you would for taking him off for sex.  Don't cheapskate him on his tip.  The tip is the primary reason he agrees to go off with you.  Don't forget that.
The only exception, in my opinion, would be if he knows what to expect and why you are taking him and agrees to take a lesser tip or forfeit his tip entirely. Make certain it is clear to him, fully understood, and agreed before you take him off.
Communicating with him should not be a problem these days.  There are several good apps out there in which you can type in and/or speak English into the app and it will translate for him into Thai - and vice versa.  He can speak into the app and what he says will translate into English.  What comes out is not always perfectly accurate, but close enough.
My personal favorite translator app is Voice Tra, but again, there are plenty of others. Give them a try.

Good question.  It makes no sense.  Meanwhile Thailand is offering all kinds of incentives trying to get Chinese tourists to come back, and so far it is failing miserably.  The Chinese tourist numbers are way down.
Farang expats living in Thailand have similar questions.  Here we are, living here, spending virtually all of our money here, and yet every time we turn around they're coming up with things that make it more difficult for us.  In Pattaya, now it's the requirement to have a TM-30 receipt in our passports in order to get service from immigration.  That is not always so easy to obtain and in all these years has never been a requirement.  Now suddenly it is.  No explanation as to why.  No advance notice.  Nothing about who came up with this.  But without that receipt Pattaya immigration will refuse expats any service, including extending our retirement visas.
Changing the rules without notice is nothing new with immigration.  They've done that several times before and sooner or later they'll do it again.

Unless you are on 1 year or more visas, such as the retirement visa, as it stands now, no matter how you do it the maximum number of days you can stay in Thailand per year is 180.

Dr Iain Corness obituary: a Pattaya man of all the talents
By Barry Kenyon   February 1, 2023   One of Pattaya’s best-known foreign residential achievers has died here after a long battle with cancer. Reviewing the life of such a gifted man with so many success stories and fields of interest is no easy task. Iain’s achievements ran from medicine to motor racing and from photography to philanthropy. He was a restaurateur and a raconteur who opened Australia’s first fast-food Thai eatery and later became Pattaya Mail’s most prolific and original contributor. Twenty years ago, special correspondent Peter Cummins admitted he couldn’t decide whether Iain was an over-achiever or an over-whelmer. We now know it’s both.

Born in Northern Ireland in 1941, Iain always stressed he was a Brit of Scottish ancestry. “Just because you are born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse,” he used to say. As a young teen, he was a guest of the Australian government courtesy of the 10-pounds assisted passage scheme for families. The youthful Corness attended Brisbane Boys College and introduced himself to the labour market with jobs as a night watchman and a petrol pump attendant. He took the advice of his nurse mother to study to become a doctor and duly qualified in UK. He paid for his passage back home to Australia by being the ship’s doctor. “I wasn’t too busy, “he recalled, “after one patient with a toothache screamed during the difficult extraction.”
A positive avalanche of activities in Brisbane duly followed. Iain opened his own medical clinic and, subsequently, the Thai restaurant in his spare time. Not to mention getting married. He also indulged his life-long obsession with car racing, building his first MGB model under his house. Successful racing soon caught the attention of British Leyland and the by-then modified MGB was recognized as the fastest of its class in the world. In 1990 he formed his own racing team. He also became a commercial photographer and became accredited to the Institute of Australian Professional Photographers. “The camera was expensive, so it had to earn its keep as quickly as possible.”

Not everything was plain sailing. In 1992, he miraculously escaped from a blazing inferno on the race track losing only his eyebrows and lashes, carrying scars on his back for the rest of his life. After vacationing in Thailand in 1975, Iain planned to start a fresh life here and finally moved permanently in 1997. Asked why he chose Pattaya to domicile, he explained “it was the only place with an auto race track (Bira Circuit).” He never travelled abroad again and explained in 2022, “You see, I absolutely hate filling in forms and the immigration procedures made it impossible for me to consider going abroad.”
Pattaya in 1997 was a very different venue from today. There seemed few opportunities outside of sex and booze. But Iain managed to weave all his qualifications and interests into a truly revolutionary career. Never a retiree waiting for the bars to open, Iain bumped into the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital where he became a non-practicing consultant, work permit and all, where he advised thousands of patients over the years about the real deal and won praise for his empathetic bedside manner. He wrote two books on idiosyncratic Pattaya Expat Life which were a sellout at Bookazine and on Amazon. He was a regular attendee at Pattaya business meetings and social gatherings too numerous to mention. His car racing continued with gigantic enthusiasm until a year before his death.

His connection with Pattaya Mail, the resort’s first and now only print newspaper with daily internet updates, went back almost to the foundation in 1993. Iain wrote regularly and voluminously under his own name – Automania and Modern Medicine – as well as under barely-concealed pseudonyms. He was, of course, the gastronome Miss Terry Dinner, the flash-photographer Harry Flashman and the book worm Lang Reid. Not to mention Dear Hillary, the agony aunt coping with naive expats and their heterosexual wanderings. He also produced news items, one-off columns and multitudes of “fillers”, the bits and pieces between the commercial ads. Iain’s journalistic contributions often revealed common-sense advice to the expat community: don’t fall in love with ladies of the night, be careful when ordering Indian curries which are often too spicy and don’t forget an annual medical if you are middle aged or worse.
Dr Iain Corness, the Good Doctor as he was affectionately known, is irreplaceable in Pattaya annals. Pattaya Mail offers to his family deepest condolences from both management and the general readership. In one of his last public appearances, at the Pattaya City Expat Club last October, I asked Iain what he would do if offered the keys of the city. “Ask for a duplicate set of course.”
Requiescat in Pace Iain Corness: 18 November 1941 – 30 January 2023.
https://www.pattayamail.com/latestnews/news/dr-iain-corness-obituary-a-pattaya-man-of-all-the-talents-423117

What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps.  If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE.  Almost all of them do.  Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine.
If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I  simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there.
Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number.  I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is.  If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him.  I can always block him later if need be.  If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him.
Be prepared to handle the pleas for money.  I don't get many of those, but I do get them.  I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop.  Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO."  The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good.  Not with me, anyway.
The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room"  In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room.
If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth.
Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

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What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps.  If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE.  Almost all of them do.  Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine.
If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I  simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there.
Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number.  I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is.  If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him.  I can always block him later if need be.  If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him.
Be prepared to handle the pleas for money.  I don't get many of those, but I do get them.  I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop.  Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO."  The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good.  Not with me, anyway.
The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room"  In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room.
If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth.
Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps.  If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE.  Almost all of them do.  Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine.
If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I  simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there.
Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number.  I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is.  If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him.  I can always block him later if need be.  If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him.
Be prepared to handle the pleas for money.  I don't get many of those, but I do get them.  I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop.  Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO."  The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good.  Not with me, anyway.
The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room"  In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room.
If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth.
Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps.  If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE.  Almost all of them do.  Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine.
If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I  simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there.
Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number.  I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is.  If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him.  I can always block him later if need be.  If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him.
Be prepared to handle the pleas for money.  I don't get many of those, but I do get them.  I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop.  Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO."  The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good.  Not with me, anyway.
The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room"  In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room.
If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth.
Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps.  If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE.  Almost all of them do.  Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine.
If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I  simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there.
Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number.  I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is.  If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him.  I can always block him later if need be.  If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him.
Be prepared to handle the pleas for money.  I don't get many of those, but I do get them.  I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop.  Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO."  The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good.  Not with me, anyway.
The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room"  In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room.
If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth.
Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

What I do is first find boys that interest me on the apps.  If the chat goes well and I am still interested, I ask if he has LINE.  Almost all of them do.  Then I ask for his LINE ID and I give him mine.
If it is a boy I've met personally, such as a bar boy or someone I  simply met by chance, we trade LINE IDs right then and there.
Something I've never figured out is I get many boys I've neither met nor ever heard of who add me to their own LINE, and the app says they added me by phone number.  I have no idea how they got my phone number, but there it is.  If it is someone who interests me, I go ahead and add him.  I can always block him later if need be.  If the person does not interest me, I don't add him and I don't chat with him.
Be prepared to handle the pleas for money.  I don't get many of those, but I do get them.  I usually won't give them any money because one thing I've learned the hard way, living in Thailand, is if you give the boy money once, now the pleas for money never stop.  Sometimes I'll come up with some excuse and sometimes I'll just say "Sorry - NO."  The boy usually tries to argue about it, but that does him no good.  Not with me, anyway.
The two most common pleas I get are "I not have money for eat" and "I not have money for pay for room"  In all the years I've lived here I have never seen a boy starve to death and I have never seen a boy lose his room.
If I do give money, it is only to a boy I really like and have known long enough to know he is telling me the truth.
Bottom line is be very careful about who is getting your LINE ID.

I certainly am very grateful to Moses for all the help he has provided me and he has never asked for anything in return.  Regarding my board, when problems arise I first try to find and fix them myself.  If I can't, which is most of the time, I ask Moses for help.  He has always been there to help when needed.  My knowledge of complex board or computer problems is quite limited, but Moses is a true guru.  If it wasn't for Moses I probably wouldn't have a board anymore.

I certainly am very grateful to Moses for all the help he has provided me and he has never asked for anything in return.  Regarding my board, when problems arise I first try to find and fix them myself.  If I can't, which is most of the time, I ask Moses for help.  He has always been there to help when needed.  My knowledge of complex board or computer problems is quite limited, but Moses is a true guru.  If it wasn't for Moses I probably wouldn't have a board anymore.

If anyone knows of an idyllic country where everything is perfect, just the way you like it, all the time and never disappointing, please share with the rest of us where it is.

If anyone knows of an idyllic country where everything is perfect, just the way you like it, all the time and never disappointing, please share with the rest of us where it is.

If anyone knows of an idyllic country where everything is perfect, just the way you like it, all the time and never disappointing, please share with the rest of us where it is.

Ok, now we're back to yes, alcohol can be served up to 4am.  Make up your minds . . .
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Thai Deputy Prime Minister Clarifies That Alcohol Sales Will Be Allowed During Extended Entertainment Hours in Four Pilot Provinces
By Kittisak Phalaharn
7 November, 2023
On November 7th, 2023, Mr. Anutin Charnvirakul, the Deputy Prime Minister, clarified to Thai national media about the extension of opening service hours of entertainment districts to 4 AM in four pilot provinces.
At present, the Ministry of Interior is in the process of reviewing and listening to various opinions and complaints from locals and owners of entertainment venues before presenting them to the cabinet, said Anutin.
Anutin apologized for misleading information from the previous statement that the extended-hour services will not cover alcohol sales until 4 AM which is incorrect. He meant to mention service establishments that are similar to entertainment venues that could provide alcoholic beverages until midnight such as late-night restaurants, karaoke, and similar businesses. Qualified entertainment venues in approved, legal, entertainment zones would be allowed to serve alcoholic beverages until 4AM.
Furthermore, entertainment services in hotels in four pilot provinces being Chonburi, Bangkok, Chiang Mai, and Phuket, can provide full services until 4 AM.
Anutin publicly stated that further details on the extended-hour services and related information would later be given by the Director General of the Department of Provincial Administration. However, the policy from the Thai Prime Minister will still be effective on December 15th, 2023.
Meanwhile, the Pattaya Mayor has confirmed that currently legal entertainment zones will participate in the 4AM program effective from December 15th. However, proposals to extend the zones to Jomtien, Naklua, and Easy Pattaya will have to wait until next year.
https://thepattayanews.com/2023/11/07/thai-deputy-prime-minister-clarifies-that-alcohol-sales-will-be-allowed-during-extended-entertainment-hours-in-four-pilot-provinces/

If the bars really will have to stop serving alcohol at 2am, then what is the point of remaining open until 4am?  Between 2am and 4am what are they expecting the bars to sell?  Coca Cola, cups of tea, and Shirley Temples?  After 2am, what would attract customers?  I rarely even drink, but I would have zero interest in going to a bar where they can't sell alcohol.  Go for what?
For some strange reason, no alcohol after 2am seems just a wee bit on the absurd side to me.  We're talking about bars.  Selling alcohol is what bars are in business to do.  I don't know what those behind no alcohol after 2am are talking about.  That idea alone is already on my "I Don't Get It" list.
If the bars will be permitted to remain open until 4am, then let them sell alcohol until 4am.  Otherwise it makes no sense and they might as well make the bars close at 2am, which without being able to sell alcohol, most would do anyway.
Let's offer the fun and then spoil it before anything even happens.  Way to go!