reader Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 From CNBC A federal jury on Friday ordered Rudy Giuliani to pay over $148 million to two Georgia election workers for falsely claiming they committed ballot fraud in the 2020 presidential election. The jaw-dropping figure includes $75 million in punitive damages, along with awards of $20 million to each of the two election workers for emotional distress and more than $16 million each for defamation. Giuliani was in court as the verdict was read aloud by a federal judge. The defamation damage award is the latest in a series of legal blows to Giuliani related to his service as the top campaign lawyer for Donald Trump in efforts to reverse the former Republican president’s loss in that election. Giuliani, Trump, and 17 other defendants were indicted this summer on state criminal court charges in Georgia in connection with their attempts to undo Trump’s defeat. The civil verdict by the jury Friday came a after Giuliani’s lawyer said he would not testify in the case in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., reversing his supposed plans to do so. The plaintiffs in the case, Ruby Freeman and Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, who are mother and daughter, sued Giuliani in 2021 for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress and civil conspiracy. alvnv, stevenkesslar and TMax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelingguy Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 He looks like he is choking. reader and TMax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pete1111 Posted December 15, 2023 Members Share Posted December 15, 2023 Freeman gave quite a sermon after and reminded there is more to come. Is Miss Lindseybelle on this mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10tazione Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 14 hours ago, reader said: $20 million to each of the two election workers for emotional distress If wish I was one of the 2! stevenkesslar and reader 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Neither one will ever see a nickel.... This case will be appealed all the way to the Supreme Court. It will take years. It is likely that the judgment will either be tossed out or the judgment lowered significantly at one of the layers of appeal.. Mayor Giuliani is 79, and not in the best of health. He will likely be flying with the angels in heaven before this case is finalized. He is not stupid. I am sure he is already beginning the process of liquidating his assets so there will be nothing left for these two to claim from his estate. Mavica and Marc in Calif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alvnv Posted December 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, EmmetK said: He will likely be flying with the angels in heaven before this case is finalized. Not likely 3 hours ago, EmmetK said: He is not stupid. Just senile Marc in Calif, TMax, floridarob and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo T Dog Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Rudy has become a joke. Trump used him and let him disgrace himself to ALL of the world. Another Trump casualty now in the dustbin. Bingo looks forward to lifting his leg and peeing on Rudy's grave. stevenkesslar, TMax, unicorn and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted December 20, 2023 Members Share Posted December 20, 2023 Who's Rudy? Barely knew him... He'll appeal: TMax, Bingo T Dog, alvnv and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelingguy Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Probably won’t appeal. He apparently can’t appeal without putting up bond for $146 million. He will never do that. Edited December 21, 2023 by Travelingguy Missing number unicorn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 Not to worry, Rudy. Trump says there's a check in the mail. From CNBC Giuliani files for bankruptcy protection Rudy Giuliani filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in New York on Thursday, citing debts that include a recent nearly $150 million civil judgment against him for defaming Georgia election workers while acting as a lawyer for former President Donald Trump. The filing by Giuliani came a day after a federal judge in Washington, D.C., ordered him to begin paying the two election workers the damages he owed for their lawsuit against him. Giuliani’s filing estimates he has assets worth between $1 million and $10,000, and estimated liabilities of between $100 million and $500 million. alvnv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forky123 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 stevenkesslar and alvnv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelingguy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Apparently bankruptcy may not protect him from a defamation judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavica Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 10:12 AM, EmmetK said: He is not stupid. I am sure he is already beginning the process of liquidating his assets so there will be nothing left for these two to claim from his estate. The Court will examine any liquidations made in anticipation of filing for bankruptcy - attempts to avoid paying his debts. The judgment in the defamation suit will be in full force and effect no matter this filing. He admitted guilt, which means he's 'on the hook' for life. Any income he earns going forward is almost certainly going to be attached for payment to the two women. Bingo T Dog, alvnv and Marc in Calif 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvnv Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Can he claim insanity? That’s not too far fetched at all. I believe that’s why his last law firm dropped him when he lost it and joined Trump’s legal team in April of 2018. reader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mavica said: Any income he earns going forward is almost certainly going to be attached for payment to the two women. The judgement amount against him will almost certainly be lowered. It was an insane amount. Also, he has no income. And is unemployable. Those 2 money grubbers won't see a nickel. alvnv, forky123, Mavica and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pete1111 Posted December 22, 2023 Members Share Posted December 22, 2023 Who will expense dear Rudy his scotch and private transportation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pete1111 said: Who will expense dear Rudy his scotch and private transportation? No one. He'll drink Pepsi and take the subway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo T Dog Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Pete1111 said: Who will expense dear Rudy his scotch and private transportation? His "billionaire" (?????) friend Donald J Plump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited December 22, 2023 by Bingo T Dog Matty told me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo T Dog Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Maybe Giuliani has some classified documents laying around he can sell............................. Mavica and alvnv 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Bingo T Dog said: Maybe Giuliani has some classified documents laying around he can sell............................. ...says the forum's resident Pinocchio. Or perhaps he can be involved in a shady pay-for-play scheme with his son, and shake down leaders of foreign governments like Dementia Joe. Mavica and forky123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelingguy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 The amount awarded cannot be lowered without an appeal, and there cannot be an appeal unless Rudy can come up with a bond of $146 million. So I don’t really see that happening. Mavica, unicorn, EmmetK and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Travelingguy said: The amount awarded cannot be lowered without an appeal, and there cannot be an appeal unless Rudy can come up with a bond of $146 million. So I don’t really see that happening. And that can be appealed also. The judge in the case is a well-known partisan hack. This case will be winding its way the courts for years and years. As I said, these two faux victims will never see a nickel. forky123 and Mavica 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelingguy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Rudy doesn’t appear to be appealing. He instead filed for bankruptcy which will not protect him from the defamation judgement. It may create delays in paying the judgement and that may be his Hail Mary pass. Just another example of a person who destroyed their life for Trump. Mavica 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetK Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Good move Rudy! don't let them get a penny. New York will forever remember you as America's Mayor. Filing for bankruptcy does not prevent an appeal, which in this case is almost automatic. There will be an appeal, and even if he is found to have to pay, the amount will be drastically reduced. A judgement in this range is not legally supportable. Rudy will be ok. He doesn't really have to pay that much. He'll pay as much as OJ has paid the Goldman family. Can't get blood from a turnip. I guess those 2 money-grubbing, minimum-wage election workers won't be living a life of luxury after all.,,, lol. unicorn, Marc in Calif, alvnv and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, EmmetK said: Can't get blood from a turnip. What a perfectly apt metaphor! Mavica, JKane, Bingo T Dog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
