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It also takes to people to battle.  I know one thing you can do.  Just ignore any further such posts, don't respond, and get on with what you really are on this board to do.  This isn't it.
Believe me, if you just stop we'll all know why and we'll all know how you would have responded.
This post is also the end of me sticking my nose in and involving myself.  I have nothing further I want to say about it.  Battle or truce - your choice. 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

What's the matter with you two?  You're going to war with each other because of a monorail? 
Both of you are important and informative posters on this board.  How about calling a truce and getting back to that? 

I agree with anddy on this one.  And if the current measures fail to significantly curtail Covid, I see things getting far more difficult before they get any better.
I applaud efforts to bring this under control and nobody wants Thailand to become another India, but some of the more absurd rules have found a special place on my "I Don't Get It" list.

I agree with anddy on this one.  And if the current measures fail to significantly curtail Covid, I see things getting far more difficult before they get any better.
I applaud efforts to bring this under control and nobody wants Thailand to become another India, but some of the more absurd rules have found a special place on my "I Don't Get It" list.

Gee whiz - Let's see - unable to leave your quarantine room for 14 days (even prisoners often get 1 hour per day outside), having to clean your room yourself, having to change the bedding yourself, having to eat in your room, and then when released you still can't eat in a restaurant, the bars and all entertainment venues are closed, stores and shopping malls are open under restricted hours, you can't stop in anywhere for a cup of coffee unless you take it away, there's nowhere to go to have a nice breakfast, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your dinner unless you buy a bottle of wine in a shop and eat and drink in your hotel room, if you are not wearing your face mask every time you set foot outside your room you are subject to a 20,000 baht fine, you can't swim in your hotel's pool because the pools are all closed, it is difficult to travel out of the province where you are staying and then return, you can't visit any museums or historical sites, everything closes by 9:00pm - and some even earlier.
Other than that, what's the problem . . . ?

I agree with anddy on this one.  And if the current measures fail to significantly curtail Covid, I see things getting far more difficult before they get any better.
I applaud efforts to bring this under control and nobody wants Thailand to become another India, but some of the more absurd rules have found a special place on my "I Don't Get It" list.

Gee whiz - Let's see - unable to leave your quarantine room for 14 days (even prisoners often get 1 hour per day outside), having to clean your room yourself, having to change the bedding yourself, having to eat in your room, and then when released you still can't eat in a restaurant, the bars and all entertainment venues are closed, stores and shopping malls are open under restricted hours, you can't stop in anywhere for a cup of coffee unless you take it away, there's nowhere to go to have a nice breakfast, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your dinner unless you buy a bottle of wine in a shop and eat and drink in your hotel room, if you are not wearing your face mask every time you set foot outside your room you are subject to a 20,000 baht fine, you can't swim in your hotel's pool because the pools are all closed, it is difficult to travel out of the province where you are staying and then return, you can't visit any museums or historical sites, everything closes by 9:00pm - and some even earlier.
Other than that, what's the problem . . . ?

Gee whiz - Let's see - unable to leave your quarantine room for 14 days (even prisoners often get 1 hour per day outside), having to clean your room yourself, having to change the bedding yourself, having to eat in your room, and then when released you still can't eat in a restaurant, the bars and all entertainment venues are closed, stores and shopping malls are open under restricted hours, you can't stop in anywhere for a cup of coffee unless you take it away, there's nowhere to go to have a nice breakfast, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your dinner unless you buy a bottle of wine in a shop and eat and drink in your hotel room, if you are not wearing your face mask every time you set foot outside your room you are subject to a 20,000 baht fine, you can't swim in your hotel's pool because the pools are all closed, it is difficult to travel out of the province where you are staying and then return, you can't visit any museums or historical sites, everything closes by 9:00pm - and some even earlier.
Other than that, what's the problem . . . ?

Gee whiz - Let's see - unable to leave your quarantine room for 14 days (even prisoners often get 1 hour per day outside), having to clean your room yourself, having to change the bedding yourself, having to eat in your room, and then when released you still can't eat in a restaurant, the bars and all entertainment venues are closed, stores and shopping malls are open under restricted hours, you can't stop in anywhere for a cup of coffee unless you take it away, there's nowhere to go to have a nice breakfast, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your dinner unless you buy a bottle of wine in a shop and eat and drink in your hotel room, if you are not wearing your face mask every time you set foot outside your room you are subject to a 20,000 baht fine, you can't swim in your hotel's pool because the pools are all closed, it is difficult to travel out of the province where you are staying and then return, you can't visit any museums or historical sites, everything closes by 9:00pm - and some even earlier.
Other than that, what's the problem . . . ?

Not anymore in Bangkok and Pattaya.  As of May 1, a 14 day quarantine is required of all arrivals whether you have been vaccinated or not and you are not permitted to leave your room.  I don't know whether going to the hotel restaurant is an exception or if you would be required to use either room service or food delivery service.
In my opinion a trip to Thailand is not exactly a bright idea under present circumstances.

Gee whiz - Let's see - unable to leave your quarantine room for 14 days (even prisoners often get 1 hour per day outside), having to clean your room yourself, having to change the bedding yourself, having to eat in your room, and then when released you still can't eat in a restaurant, the bars and all entertainment venues are closed, stores and shopping malls are open under restricted hours, you can't stop in anywhere for a cup of coffee unless you take it away, there's nowhere to go to have a nice breakfast, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your dinner unless you buy a bottle of wine in a shop and eat and drink in your hotel room, if you are not wearing your face mask every time you set foot outside your room you are subject to a 20,000 baht fine, you can't swim in your hotel's pool because the pools are all closed, it is difficult to travel out of the province where you are staying and then return, you can't visit any museums or historical sites, everything closes by 9:00pm - and some even earlier.
Other than that, what's the problem . . . ?

I, as most of you know, an already in Thailand as a long term expat resident.  From where I sit, the only certainty is uncertainty.  Every time I turn around, the rules change and/or the requirements for entering Thailand change.
I suppose we all can try to guess when farang can go to Thailand again, for all the good that will do, but I believe it all depends on how well Thailand is able to bring Covid under control and how well, vaccine or no vaccine, other countries bring Covid under control.
The next question - even if Thailand were to open for tourists tomorrow, you would be coming to what?  The bars are all closed.  You already can see most of the available boys on the apps - the rest of them have long since returned to their home provinces and obviously are not going back to Bangkok, Pattaya, or anywhere else to work in the bars if the bars are closed.  Another factor the boys have to consider - if the bars reopen, how long will they stay open before yet another shutdown.  And how many customers will there be to take them off?
You can't drink in bars right now because they're all closed.  In restaurants, the ones still open, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your meal.  Just about everything now closes at 9:00pm.  Social distancing, wearing face masks, and use of apps such as Thai Chana are all requirements - and if you know what's good for you, you better comply.
Many hotels are closed.  Even if you make a booking for a hotel, can you be certain it will still be open when you arrive?  And they too have their own social distancing rules.  And their swimming pools are now closed.
For the time being, there are also many rules and regulations if you intend to travel from one province to another, and they all have their own rules. 
As a long term resident I still am very happy I am in Thailand, but my life, for one, is vastly different from being in Thailand as a tourist.  My life is well established.  I have no need for most of what farang tourists come to Thailand for.
I am sorry for coming across so pessimistically, but this is how I am seeing things appearing to be.

I, as most of you know, an already in Thailand as a long term expat resident.  From where I sit, the only certainty is uncertainty.  Every time I turn around, the rules change and/or the requirements for entering Thailand change.
I suppose we all can try to guess when farang can go to Thailand again, for all the good that will do, but I believe it all depends on how well Thailand is able to bring Covid under control and how well, vaccine or no vaccine, other countries bring Covid under control.
The next question - even if Thailand were to open for tourists tomorrow, you would be coming to what?  The bars are all closed.  You already can see most of the available boys on the apps - the rest of them have long since returned to their home provinces and obviously are not going back to Bangkok, Pattaya, or anywhere else to work in the bars if the bars are closed.  Another factor the boys have to consider - if the bars reopen, how long will they stay open before yet another shutdown.  And how many customers will there be to take them off?
You can't drink in bars right now because they're all closed.  In restaurants, the ones still open, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your meal.  Just about everything now closes at 9:00pm.  Social distancing, wearing face masks, and use of apps such as Thai Chana are all requirements - and if you know what's good for you, you better comply.
Many hotels are closed.  Even if you make a booking for a hotel, can you be certain it will still be open when you arrive?  And they too have their own social distancing rules.  And their swimming pools are now closed.
For the time being, there are also many rules and regulations if you intend to travel from one province to another, and they all have their own rules. 
As a long term resident I still am very happy I am in Thailand, but my life, for one, is vastly different from being in Thailand as a tourist.  My life is well established.  I have no need for most of what farang tourists come to Thailand for.
I am sorry for coming across so pessimistically, but this is how I am seeing things appearing to be.

I, as most of you know, an already in Thailand as a long term expat resident.  From where I sit, the only certainty is uncertainty.  Every time I turn around, the rules change and/or the requirements for entering Thailand change.
I suppose we all can try to guess when farang can go to Thailand again, for all the good that will do, but I believe it all depends on how well Thailand is able to bring Covid under control and how well, vaccine or no vaccine, other countries bring Covid under control.
The next question - even if Thailand were to open for tourists tomorrow, you would be coming to what?  The bars are all closed.  You already can see most of the available boys on the apps - the rest of them have long since returned to their home provinces and obviously are not going back to Bangkok, Pattaya, or anywhere else to work in the bars if the bars are closed.  Another factor the boys have to consider - if the bars reopen, how long will they stay open before yet another shutdown.  And how many customers will there be to take them off?
You can't drink in bars right now because they're all closed.  In restaurants, the ones still open, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your meal.  Just about everything now closes at 9:00pm.  Social distancing, wearing face masks, and use of apps such as Thai Chana are all requirements - and if you know what's good for you, you better comply.
Many hotels are closed.  Even if you make a booking for a hotel, can you be certain it will still be open when you arrive?  And they too have their own social distancing rules.  And their swimming pools are now closed.
For the time being, there are also many rules and regulations if you intend to travel from one province to another, and they all have their own rules. 
As a long term resident I still am very happy I am in Thailand, but my life, for one, is vastly different from being in Thailand as a tourist.  My life is well established.  I have no need for most of what farang tourists come to Thailand for.
I am sorry for coming across so pessimistically, but this is how I am seeing things appearing to be.

I, as most of you know, an already in Thailand as a long term expat resident.  From where I sit, the only certainty is uncertainty.  Every time I turn around, the rules change and/or the requirements for entering Thailand change.
I suppose we all can try to guess when farang can go to Thailand again, for all the good that will do, but I believe it all depends on how well Thailand is able to bring Covid under control and how well, vaccine or no vaccine, other countries bring Covid under control.
The next question - even if Thailand were to open for tourists tomorrow, you would be coming to what?  The bars are all closed.  You already can see most of the available boys on the apps - the rest of them have long since returned to their home provinces and obviously are not going back to Bangkok, Pattaya, or anywhere else to work in the bars if the bars are closed.  Another factor the boys have to consider - if the bars reopen, how long will they stay open before yet another shutdown.  And how many customers will there be to take them off?
You can't drink in bars right now because they're all closed.  In restaurants, the ones still open, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your meal.  Just about everything now closes at 9:00pm.  Social distancing, wearing face masks, and use of apps such as Thai Chana are all requirements - and if you know what's good for you, you better comply.
Many hotels are closed.  Even if you make a booking for a hotel, can you be certain it will still be open when you arrive?  And they too have their own social distancing rules.  And their swimming pools are now closed.
For the time being, there are also many rules and regulations if you intend to travel from one province to another, and they all have their own rules. 
As a long term resident I still am very happy I am in Thailand, but my life, for one, is vastly different from being in Thailand as a tourist.  My life is well established.  I have no need for most of what farang tourists come to Thailand for.
I am sorry for coming across so pessimistically, but this is how I am seeing things appearing to be.

I, as most of you know, an already in Thailand as a long term expat resident.  From where I sit, the only certainty is uncertainty.  Every time I turn around, the rules change and/or the requirements for entering Thailand change.
I suppose we all can try to guess when farang can go to Thailand again, for all the good that will do, but I believe it all depends on how well Thailand is able to bring Covid under control and how well, vaccine or no vaccine, other countries bring Covid under control.
The next question - even if Thailand were to open for tourists tomorrow, you would be coming to what?  The bars are all closed.  You already can see most of the available boys on the apps - the rest of them have long since returned to their home provinces and obviously are not going back to Bangkok, Pattaya, or anywhere else to work in the bars if the bars are closed.  Another factor the boys have to consider - if the bars reopen, how long will they stay open before yet another shutdown.  And how many customers will there be to take them off?
You can't drink in bars right now because they're all closed.  In restaurants, the ones still open, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your meal.  Just about everything now closes at 9:00pm.  Social distancing, wearing face masks, and use of apps such as Thai Chana are all requirements - and if you know what's good for you, you better comply.
Many hotels are closed.  Even if you make a booking for a hotel, can you be certain it will still be open when you arrive?  And they too have their own social distancing rules.  And their swimming pools are now closed.
For the time being, there are also many rules and regulations if you intend to travel from one province to another, and they all have their own rules. 
As a long term resident I still am very happy I am in Thailand, but my life, for one, is vastly different from being in Thailand as a tourist.  My life is well established.  I have no need for most of what farang tourists come to Thailand for.
I am sorry for coming across so pessimistically, but this is how I am seeing things appearing to be.

I, as most of you know, an already in Thailand as a long term expat resident.  From where I sit, the only certainty is uncertainty.  Every time I turn around, the rules change and/or the requirements for entering Thailand change.
I suppose we all can try to guess when farang can go to Thailand again, for all the good that will do, but I believe it all depends on how well Thailand is able to bring Covid under control and how well, vaccine or no vaccine, other countries bring Covid under control.
The next question - even if Thailand were to open for tourists tomorrow, you would be coming to what?  The bars are all closed.  You already can see most of the available boys on the apps - the rest of them have long since returned to their home provinces and obviously are not going back to Bangkok, Pattaya, or anywhere else to work in the bars if the bars are closed.  Another factor the boys have to consider - if the bars reopen, how long will they stay open before yet another shutdown.  And how many customers will there be to take them off?
You can't drink in bars right now because they're all closed.  In restaurants, the ones still open, you can't enjoy a glass of wine with your meal.  Just about everything now closes at 9:00pm.  Social distancing, wearing face masks, and use of apps such as Thai Chana are all requirements - and if you know what's good for you, you better comply.
Many hotels are closed.  Even if you make a booking for a hotel, can you be certain it will still be open when you arrive?  And they too have their own social distancing rules.  And their swimming pools are now closed.
For the time being, there are also many rules and regulations if you intend to travel from one province to another, and they all have their own rules. 
As a long term resident I still am very happy I am in Thailand, but my life, for one, is vastly different from being in Thailand as a tourist.  My life is well established.  I have no need for most of what farang tourists come to Thailand for.
I am sorry for coming across so pessimistically, but this is how I am seeing things appearing to be.

Consider yourself very fortunate.
I'll put it this way - Josef Goebbels would have been a great admirer - and vice-versa.

When told Joan Crawford had died, her arch rival, Bette Davis said, "My mother taught me never to say bad of the dead - only good.  Joan Crawford is dead.  Good!"
I think miss Davis might have had similar words for Mr. Limbaugh - if I didn't beat her to it . . .