spoon Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Hi all, I have just found out about this forum merely 2 days ago. I will be visiting bkk on transit (4 day 3 night) before my trip to japan in approximately 2 weeks from now. Arriving at bkk around 10.10pm and leaving at 2.50pm, so i only have 2 full days to enjoy bkk. Since im not into cities and shopping, my plan is to go ayutthaya on day 2 and maeklong/amphawa markets on day 3. Now abit about myself. Im really into good massage. Been a regular massage goer back in my country (malaysia). I patronized both regular straight massage parlors that have male masseur and gay massage parlors. In KL, if i want really good massage, my best bet is the straight parlor. If i want the HE, gay parlour but with tips of course. I am excited to read here that u can actually have both in bkk from some of the massage parlour in bkk. I am also into muscular guy, not into twink or lean fit. So i guess thats already limit my choices of massage parlor to maybe 3-4. Arena would be my first choice, then maybe v club, prince. As for proper massage most likely on day 3 or if i have time for day 4 before my flight (2.50pm), dr bear massage or prime. Now moving on to sauna, not really a fan of sauna, maybe i lack confidence. Been to 1 time back home, maybe just 10 mins of fun watching a guy getting a bj, and 3 hours of nothing really put me off lol. Went to another sauna in HK and not much diff exp. but i dont want to miss not visiting one in bkk, and looks like r3 and babylon is the place to go. Gogobar would be a totally new experience for me. I dont drink, so i dont even frequent a normal bar. But tawan and jupiter muscle boy makes me want to just go and see whats the hype. Not looking for anal, so i guess my choices are wider than most lol. But going to gogobar for the first time is really nerve wrecking for me. But surely it cant be worse than going in sauna in my towel for the first time right? One small question, do i need to buy alcoholic drink in the bars? Any minimum order? Or just tipping the gogoboy is fine? Appreciate any tips for first timer to bkk. Dont think i get to do all of the above in my visit, so ill just want to have enough fun to get me to come back and do the rest of them haha. From what i gather, minimum tips for massage is printed on their menu/websites. Tips for gogobar seems to be around 2k not sure for how long. Overnight seems to be 3k. Off fee 500-700? Since im not looking for anal, do u think the tips is diff? I dont mind paying more if im satisfied but need to have some ballpark. Thinking of booking a guide from siamroads for 1 or 2 days. Anyone have any recommendations? And what can the guide do and dont do? Looking forward to replies! TotallyOz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggobkk Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Enjoy your visit and make the most of it. Arriving at night, you may be able to check out a gogo show. Certainly, Screwboys which has the latest show most nights. A guide might be of help, Siamroads is gay owned and operated and can create a tour for you that goes to the clubs or massage parlors. Do have a good time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokopelli Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Stop worrying about go-go bars; just order a soft drink or club soda almost same price as alcoholic drink. Also ignore the mamasan's trying to pressure you to buy drinks or have someone sit with you.No need to even speak with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianPFC Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I consider the floating markets tourist traps and wouldn't go again if you invited me. I consider the gogo bars in Bangkok way overpriced. Your numbers are correct, in Pattaya you can get everything for half. "One small question, do i need to buy alcoholic drink in the bars? Any minimum order? Or just tipping the gogoboy is fine?" You have to buy one drink to get in, doesn't have to be alcoholic (some places even have tea or coffee). No minimum order. Tipping up to you (If someone asks me for a tip, he won't get any). "Since im not looking for anal, do u think the tips is diff?" You pay for the time. There are reports of people taking the boys just for dinner or sightseeing, no sex, still full tip expected. DivineMadman, TotallyOz, TMax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Correct....but you may well get an extra (and heart-felt) kiss if you don't do anal. The majority of guys- not all, I emphasise- prefer to avoid it, even those identifying as bottoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 Thanks for all the replies. As this will be my first time. Ill just go with the flow like i always do. My biggest regret during any trip has always been if i missed anything i actually want to visit, thus i always make my travel flexible and go wirh the flow. i do plenty of research though, but dont restrict myself with a tight schedule. Keep more tips coming guys, since i live very close to thailand, this might very well be the beginning of my bkk addiction lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pong Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Ji. Note that Ampawa is only weekends-and late in the day. Its also still faiurly populair among Thai, so not too much of the tipical tourist-trap. Coming back to BKK in the eves may be challenging-except for taxi's. What U write about m2m/normal msg is very much the same here in BKK-me myself came back into BKk 2 days ago and just had a terrific seance yesterday eve. Bars/gogo are very well used to visitors from anywhere and their specific likes-so never will alco be pressed upon you. For just normal msg try any shop, there are 100s in any touristy area of this big city. I would consider that Dr Bear as a tipial m2m-sex aimed place though. Dan selamat jalan, ;lah. Moses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 I wanted to go there mostly for maeklong train market, but since i read amphawa is close, why not. Maeklong should open daily right? If not, ill just spend that day on bkk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 i always make my travel flexible and go with the flow. i do plenty of research though, but dont restrict myself with a tight schedule. that's perfect vacation attitude , specially if place is new to you as one never knows what will draw his attention next minute. You seem very well prepared. Don't worry about being nervous in the go-go bar , it will go away with first sip of water or whatever you will be drinking. If you will have boy sitting with you make sure you tip him, 100 baht will be ok but if you get more clingy with him you should tip a bit more . For Ayuthaya you can book a tour or just take a train at 8.20 for 20 baht and in front of Ayuthaya station you can rent tuk-tuk , drivers will have suggested itineraries, you will see more that way and will not be rushed as is usually a case on daytrips. Here's a link with my post about such trip I made last Dec / page 2 , day 5 /, hope it helps, it's great World Heritage site http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/10161-december-2015-adventures-bangkok-and-pattaya-trip/page-2?hl=trip TotallyOz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMax Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 If you're there on a weekend you can always go to Chatuchak market, get on the MRT and the stop is right at the markets. spoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 There was a mysterious issan food stall in Chtuchak near JJ mall. 3-4 gorgeous hunks with beautiful 6 packs dressed in traditional Thai costume, naked upper body with tiny blue cloth around hips serving grilled chicken etc. You can ogle 6 packs while eating somtums 200 Baht. Lol I thought they are maybe moneyboys doing a day job but unfortunately they speak zero English. Many tourists were taking photos with the boys. TMax, 1moRussian and spoon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanasia Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Correct....but you may well get an extra (and heart-felt) kiss if you don't do anal. The majority of guys- not all, I emphasise- prefer to avoid it, even those identifying as bottoms. This has certainly not been my experience. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 If you're there on a weekend you can always go to Chatuchak market, get on the MRT and the stop is right at the markets. Too bad im not going to be in bkk during weekend, maybe next visit. There was a mysterious issan food stall in Chtuchak near JJ mall. 3-4 gorgeous hunks with beautiful 6 packs dressed in traditional Thai costume, naked upper body with tiny blue cloth around hips serving grilled chicken etc. You can ogle 6 packs while eating somtums 200 Baht. Lol I thought they are maybe moneyboys doing a day job but unfortunately they speak zero English. Many tourists were taking photos with the boys. I guess another reason for my second visit now lol This has certainly not been my experience. YMMV Got to agree that everyone experience will greatly vary. When it involve human, nothing is set in stone. Any review about a masseur i read in KL from other board, i normally went ahead and go try for myself first. Coz you only hear story from one side of the coin, so anything good or bad u hear are just hearsay with no proof. Needless to say, the physical/appearance, cleanliness of the place are what i looked for. Also massage skills, but then again, different people like different kind of massage, but rubbing half a bottle of oil with just 1 motion up and down is not a massage at all lol. The extra part are always uncertain. Your masseur migh have a bad day, or had tonnes of customer before, or the reviewer might be rude, or dirty etc, so extra might not be up to what u need. On the other hand, if the masseur is attracted to u coz u are hot, then of course ur extra will be very special lol. But it is always fun to read others experience, enough to motivate me to try it myself and who doesnt love a steamy story. splinter1949, anddy, vinapu and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Finally touch down and checked in hotel in bangkok. Landed around 10pm local time. Check in hotel at 12 am. Dont think ill go out tonight. But my hotel room is awesome lol got second highest floor (21) room next to elevator with a balcony to view lumphini park. Now i regret not bringing my binocular haha. The bathroom is big, with glass windows next to the bath tub, and a separate shower. the room itself is not that big but the bathroom is awesome. Private balcony is definitely a bonus though i dont smoke. And i only pay a bit more than 100usd per day vinapu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anddy Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 welcome to BKK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Finally touch down and checked in hotel in bangkok. Landed around 10pm local time. Check in hotel at 12 am. Dont think ill go out tonight. what? You prefer to admire your glassy bathroom over checking how streets look like past midnight in such place famous for the night life? On your first visit there? Really? I'm shocked, water pleeease LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Lol. I prefer the comfy bed and sleeping over exploring past midnight on a day where i worked all day and took a night flight to bkk. I only packed my bag after work, for a 13 days trip. Too tired to care haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Fair enough but don't wander the gay areas during the daytime....wait until the lights come on and the guys and punters arrive. My first view of Soi Twilight and Patpong was a terrible disappointment- it was 1100am. Litter-strewn. almost deserted and much of it shuttered. But then I returned at 1900.... That was in 1995 but the same applies today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spoon Posted November 23, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2016 Just got back to hotel at around 5pm to take some rest. Tried to take a nap but couldnt haha. Still undecided whether id visit any of the bar, though tawan is really the first one id visit if i manage to summon enough courage. Today, walked out from hotel to 7e near bts salaedang to buy simcard. Having no thai language knowledge whatsoever, i asked the cashier to do everything for me haha. Took her 15-20min to register. Got the tourist sim pay as u go for 49 with 90mb data. And bought a 99bath topup for another 750mb. Good enough for 2-3 days use. Then took the bts to shapan thaksin, have breafast somewhere outside the station and took the express boat orange flag, 14bath per trip. Went all the way to nothanburi (last pier) and change boat to go back and took off at grand palace. A lot of mourners in all black attires still camping outside the palace with the navy giving out free food/drinks and deserts. Didnt go in the palace, and went straight to wat pho, did tour the temple by myself, definitely must go, and very distinctly different than temples in malaysia, more vibrant in colors and not just gold. And of course i tried the famous wat pho massage center inside the temple, took the foot massage for half an hour, and boy, it was awesome. Ive had foot massage many times and it has always been too painful for me although i can stand the pain, it wasnt enjoyable. But the wat pho massage was strong, on point, and surprisingly enjoyable albeit minor pain that i actually like. I did asked for a male masseur, got quite old masseur that is very skillful in massage. Not sure if the younger one will be as good. After wat pho, went to wat arun and back to sathorn central pier to take bts to chong nongsi and to arena Arrived at arena around 2.30pm, easy to find and the place is actually clean but basic. Went in and i am shocked with the many boys they have there lol. Dont see any other customer inside. I did asked their fb page about some of the masseurs and they suggested a guy that fitted my description, so when im there, i dont have to awkwardly choose the boys like shopping for souvenir in the market. But when i went in, the mamasan immedeately call all the boys to stand and the experience were quite unreal haha. Imagine 20+ mostly muscular, most shirtless trying to gain you attention by showing their muscle, waving hand, smiling. I immediately told mamasan i have someone already suggested by their boss. I admittedly blushed a bit out of shyness and being perplexed with the whole experience. Anyway, i proceeded with 90min oil massage with one very muscular, quite short (circa 1.6m?) tan, very rugged and manly look. If the boss didnt suggest him, i wouldve not pick him as he is wearing singlet when i enter and actually just sitting in the couch close to the counter where i sit. Anyway, he brings me upstair to the room, and i took my shower, and he excuse himself and comeback with towels and other stuff, then he take a shower. When he stripped down, he covers his groin area (expected this from all reading all the reports) but boy his body is really muscular, especially the pecs, almost boob like haha. After shower, he proceeded with massaging my legs. The massage was actually quite good, but ive just had wat pho sifu massage, so the effect is considerably less impactful. But he is quite thorough with a mixed of pinpoint pressure and long strokes all the way to the glutes. Then he massage my back, arms and hands, all done just right, 30-40 in, he asked me to turn around. And the front massage started, with legs and arms my pecs and he started teasing my nipples a bit. Thats my queue to play haha. I started playing with his penis and noticed the beads like the one i read in some reports here lol. Not a major turn off for me, but i could do without those. He is still massaging my front, arms legs while playing with my nipple and then penis, but no rush to make me cum at all. He then kiss my nipple and give me hj, and switch with massage from time to time. Then asked if im a bottom or top. I said top and he said me too, i said its ok since im not really looking for anal sex anyway. So he just proceed with the hj and then take my hand to play with his pecks. I then pull him on the massage bed to lay beside me. No mouth to mouth kissing though, which im fine with, but he did kiss my body, nipple, neck that give me shivers haha. Ok too much details. I eventually came, and looked at the clock and still have around half an hour to go, he went to the shower to clean himself quickly and i thought, could this be another short massage session, 60min even though i paid for 90mins. And i was wrong. After shower, he proceeded with massaging my legs, arms, and necks the pecks and playfully play with my nipple again until its time. I then proceed to shower and he come in the shower with me, cleaning me the whole time, first without soap then with soap. Aftetwards, he stays in the shower to clean himself as i dressed. All in all, one of the best session ive had. Paid the tips and went to pay the massage, since im first timer, mamasan remind me to pay the masseur a bit more, which i dont mind at all. Total dmg 2200bath and worth every bath:) During massage, i did get in a few chat with the masseur. Apparently he had only worked in arena for 5 month, but already worked as masseur for 15 years. He does look 30ish, which could explains the massive muscles lol. He said he used to work at hero and told me hero massage is opening soon next month, and he might go back working there. He also told me some of the boy in arena he dont like because they just play and drink, he didnt mentioned names though. To be continued DivineMadman, TotallyOz, anddy and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Great report, thank you and waiting for a next , evening installment. I's say your first day schedule is perfect and classic for first timers - morning trip by the river to Grand Palace and first massage at Arena, perhaps my most favorite massage place. Good start for I'm sure fun-filled trip TotallyOz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spoon Posted November 23, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2016 Im back with more report. I should warned u guys that i didnt off anyone today. Couldnt get to sleep even though i wanted too. So I just lay down in bed and watched tv until its almost 10pm. Its time to finally go to tawan. I am glad that tawan is out at a different and quiter road because as i passed by soi twilight, i can only imagine the annoyance walking through a bunch of punters when all u want to do is cruising the road. Not much of cruising in front of tawan though. Still hesitates whether i should enter so i walked on the other side of tawan bar. As i passed the door I immediately turn right and went inside rightaway. This is it, today i am no longer gogobar virgin lol. Mamasan immedeately show me to the nearest sit to the door, i scanned quickly through the bar and see some empty seats at the back and asked to sit there. Mamasan nodded, and seat me asked my drink order and pay right away. Seems like a lot of people were already here waiting, though i wouldnt say its a full house. I am glad that i chose my seat where its at the corner but i can still see the stage and enjoy the show. Next to me is one very old chap wearing slacks and shirt, and already a boy no47 sitting next to him talking and flirting. I kinda like that boy as well, but seems like he is occupied. Having seated at the end, i can just observed the stage and the customers alike. And since not many new comers actually asked for seats at the end of the bar, i got the table to myself, and some of the boys actually hanged out at these corners too. The boys are already on stage taking turns to gain attention. I immediately recognised one of them, tong the mr thai, thanks to this forum. He is in great shape and one of the biggest muscle guy there that doesnt have tummy. Half of them are already bearish type, a few have no defined muscle but majority have well defined muscular abs and pecks. The show is about to start and i saw one guy, darked skin, which later i found out he is no45. His body, abs and ass is definitely to die for but his look resemble someone back home that i actually hate lol still good looking though but i feel weird haha. He ended up seating to my right at some point and i just couldnt start a conversation. Ok back to storyline. So I seated next to this old chap, and after no47 get on stage, immedeately some other boy (not to my liking so i dont remember his number) and the. Another boy seat next to this boy, which is just beside me. I keep my cool and just stare at the stage, and the show is about to start. The lights is out and comes no 45 getting ready to go on stage wearing this studded skimpy undie with penis head exposed. And i noticed the boy next to the old chap also took his out for the chap to play a bit. Just a lot of teasing, touching. The other boy starts to try talki g to me but he is not my type so i just say i wanted to just enjoy the show. He obliged but did touch me a bit again after a while, playfully, but i still insists. The show was quite revealing, im pretty sure many here have already explained. Theres flexing show, where they took off their undies in the end, some very show bj show (no45 on stage receiving but he is the only one with his face showing, wouldve been better if he cover his face since i just cant shake the resemblance), then some body wave dancing shows (2 of them wearing the greco wrestling outfit, one of them is no 47, very hot) then theres this short 3some sex show, no actual penetration though but no 45 is in it as the pretend bottom. Another short snm show with oil, hot oil with wax, blindfold, and a rubber paddle. Jerk off show with 3 guys. After the end of the show, the guys all come back on stage, not all. No 45 seats to my left resting, and I immedeately blushed lol couldnt talk to him and definitely not offing him but god his body and ass is to die for. No 47 comes to his old chap but this time 3 other boys are there so he goes in front of him, rubbing his hand on the chaps legs and then goes under his shirt touching is nipple. After a few while the old chap left without off anyone, and i dont see any of the boys gets any tips or drinks. I actually feel sorry for them, especially 47. At this point i already decide not to off anyone, but no47 did glance and smile at me. I just watched a different direction and i see him going the other way. More people leaving, and i decided to leave as well. I did tip 100 for the the guy during jerk off show. And the drink charge, no one else. No off since i got to wake up early for ayutthaya tomorrow, and i already have a very satisfied massage session. Otherwise, i wouldve off at least 3 of the guys i saw today. All 3 of different size. Tong which is the largest, didnt see him do anything today, but he dont really need to i think. No 45, just for that ass slightly smaller build than tong, and 47, which is rather skinny but fair and smooth skin, japanese look, and very nice attitude based on how he treat that old chap. Im pumped to go again tomorrow, and maybe finally gets the courage to off longtime once. We'll see. If not, maybe next trip. Dunno if i want to go to other gogobar yet. Overall, i like the show and glad that i went tonight. There is this almost chubby guy with chinese look doing the show though, dont like him at all, he did the snm show as the master and the pretend sex show as the top. Totally a turn off, maybe he is the owner or something lol. TotallyOz, DivineMadman, Vessey and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2guys Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Does anyone know if they have couple rooms at Arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsf Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Don't always assume boys aren't getting tips because you didn't see it happen. Many customers tip very discreetly. DivineMadman and TotallyOz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Noted paul. Maybe i didnt see. But it is true that the boy will immediately clocked around old guys haha. I guess they have the impression that older mean wealthier and more generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinapu Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Great report from Tawan, brings the best of memories, thank you All the best for your Ayuthaya trip and make sure in the evening you return to Tawan and off somebody , I would not be surprised if your choice will be # 47 , LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...