Olddaddy

What is the gym like there in that hotel, can you go down and have a look for me ?

5000 baht for short time!😳
Even Christianpfc would be outraged!🤣

I think you summed it up there. Just forum stalkers. I've yet to have anyone in any bar in Thailand ask me if I want a MAN. I am always asked if I want a boy. The only time you will hear the term man used is if you ask a boy who is a top if he will bottom. He will be quick to tell you I MAN. But forum stalkers wouldn't understand why that is. 

Unfortunately 
Unfortunately even I am using the term "go go man" or "service providers" as there was some on this board who personal messages me with abusive comments when I referred to the guys as "boys" 
I blocked several of them,I think they are people who never go to Thailand but join this board to "watch " what we say 

Sounds like you never been to Thailand?😳

It's been a year since I went (twice). Both times I left shortly after arriving. I didn't like the staff much, and what was on offer at the moment wasn't great. Well, except the model who wanted 5000baht for a short time which seems high stakes on an unlikely bet.

Pattaya bar fine was 300 in beer bars (2022) 
Go go bars in Pattaya vary but from 300 baht onwards but some 1,000 as mentioned above 
short time ( approx 1 hour) for boy I pay no more than 1000- 1200 baht ,some accept some don't .
Probably double these figures in Bangkok 
But you can never pay too much ,I see less & less guys available nowadays so the more you pay will attract new boys 

Long post ... I returned from Bangkok on Sunday, after spending nine days in Silom.  After all of my planning and worry about missing out on sex in Bangkok; which is why I was busying myself with trying to book guys in massage spas, I ended up not going to any at all.  I changed my Grindr profile to  👀mb🍆 and then used google translate to write a short description - caucasian bottom in Bangkok for 9 days looking for well hung money boy tops.  From the moment I opened Grindr after I arrived in the hotel (Ibis Styles Silom), I was flooded with messages from money boys, and "not-money-boys" but happy to get a little reward for their time...
The first guy I met (Thai) insisted he was a top online but then couldn't get it up and eventually admitted he was a bottom and wanted me to fuck him... wasn't going to happen... I was a top when I first visited Thailand twenty years ago, but not anymore.  He was a beautiful guy though and I loved laying with him in the bed for a couple of hours.  He charged 2000 baht and wasn't watching the clock at all. Next guy (Thai) was hot - gym toned and smooth and a big cock.  He fucked me perfectly and came back another three times before I left Bangkok.  He was 2500 baht each time and also didn't watch the clock.  Over the following days I met a few more guys... They were always either 2000 baht or 2500 baht and none of them were clock watchers.  I only felt that one of them didn't really like me and he still did the job well.  A few seemed to either really like me or the money or both and messaged me constantly.  Three guys are still keeping in touch with me even since coming home, which is amazing to me.
All the guys I met were between 19 and 32 and were all slim to athletic or gym toned.  A few were from Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, one was from Myanmar and two were half Thai mixed.  I have to say that even though I knew that the old story that Asian guys have small cocks was not true, I found out on this trip just how untrue it really is.  From one day to the next I seemed to be getting bigger and bigger cocks to the point where I am sure that I had the biggest cocks I've ever had during this trip to Thailand.  I had two young guys (19-20) that just liked me to suck them off a few times each for 1500 baht which was nice.  One guy brought along his "friend" to put on a fuck show for me in my room - I'd never seen a gay sex show live before so that was really hot and cost me 5000 baht.  For a guy who can't host at home, and rarely organising hotel hook-ups, seeing these incredibly hot toned smooth young guys some with huge cocks undressing in my hotel room, showering and then walking over to the bed proudly swinging their meat as i was about to suck them and take their cock in my ass was just about the hottest thing I have ever seen.
Even though I managed a lot of sex, I still got out and about to see a bit of Thai life and culture on the skytrain, skywalk, metro, at local markets (Khlong Toei and Khlong Thom - wow) and the Maeklong train market at , various temples, the grand palace, Saranrom Park and Lumphini Park.  I didn't hit the bars, even though a few guys offered to show me around.  After getting drenched in sweat on my long walks about town and then head down ass up for a few hours I was exhausted.  But I regret not taking them up on the offer now and wish I had have done a little of the nightlife.  I will sure do that next time.  I am pretty sure that most of the guys I met this time will still be in touch with me next time I visit (via Line app).  Some of the guys were really really nice, and Thai people in general seem really polite and friendly.  I will do some Thai lessons in the lead up to my next visit.
So, I was completely blown away in a good way by my visit to Thailand for the guys, the sex and the experience generally.  It was so much better than my first time to Thailand 20 years ago (when I was a top), though I am not entirely sure why.  Maybe I am a bit more mature or worldly than I was back then... I can really see myself retiring to Thailand in ten years or so to an apartment in Silom or a traditional Thai house on the outskirts of Bangkok (who knows?).  I'd be best to take a few more trips to Thailand between now and then to confirm that's what I want to do.  When is my next trip?  December 2023 already booked! 🙏
PS.  There's not much point in doing individual reviews (as I said I would do in the case of massage spa boys) on the money boys I met off grindr because they change profile names so often and fall off and back on grindr even during my 9 days there.  It's very easy to hook up on Grindr in Bangkok and my success rate of getting exactly what I was looking for was very very high.  But do watch out for guys who do drugs.  I had one go off his face in my hotel room after taking something before he arrived.  After that experience I always made it clear that I wanted no NO DRUGS - NO HI... 
     

There s nothing wrong with giving too much   too little bay cause trouble though.
1500 to 2500( for top quality bodies and performers) for short time(1-3 hrs ), 2500 to 5000 for long time (overnight )
Those are Bangkok rates, in Pattaya  500- 1000 less.
Bar fine in boy bars called off fee is usually 500, I know about 2 exceptions, Boyzboyz Boyz Pattata  charged me 1000 three nights ago, Moonlight in Bangkok  charges 1000 off fee but for models only.
 
 
 
 

Ummmm..... definitely not !
They will probably ask you to leave.😳The drink price is really the entry price , they aren't going to give you a show for free !
I Never forget about 10 years seeing Neil the owner of hot boys Go Go shouting at a group of Russian customers who had brought their own water in from the nearby 711🤣

Whats your definition of "twinks"?
I must say first I'm more into "manly"top  type Asian guys but I gather by twinks you mean young boyish looking?
Yes you buy a "boy drink" sit with them ,talk ,and you like them pay a "off" fee similar name "bar fine" usually around 300 baht then negotiate the service price with the "twink" usually 1000-1500 baht short time 
Sorry I just read your name and see it's Scottish,so do you mean "working twinks" as in moneyboys ?😊
So I gather last time you went you obviously didn't pick up?😳

Ummmm..... definitely not !
They will probably ask you to leave.😳The drink price is really the entry price , they aren't going to give you a show for free !
I Never forget about 10 years seeing Neil the owner of hot boys Go Go shouting at a group of Russian customers who had brought their own water in from the nearby 711🤣

Better late than too late 

Ummmm..... definitely not !
They will probably ask you to leave.😳The drink price is really the entry price , they aren't going to give you a show for free !
I Never forget about 10 years seeing Neil the owner of hot boys Go Go shouting at a group of Russian customers who had brought their own water in from the nearby 711🤣

Ummmm..... definitely not !
They will probably ask you to leave.😳The drink price is really the entry price , they aren't going to give you a show for free !
I Never forget about 10 years seeing Neil the owner of hot boys Go Go shouting at a group of Russian customers who had brought their own water in from the nearby 711🤣

Ummmm..... definitely not !
They will probably ask you to leave.😳The drink price is really the entry price , they aren't going to give you a show for free !
I Never forget about 10 years seeing Neil the owner of hot boys Go Go shouting at a group of Russian customers who had brought their own water in from the nearby 711🤣

Cannabis shops popping up everywhere. While walking on Sukhumvit Soi 11 Sunday night, carts offering cannabis seemed  almost as frequent as food carts. I think this craze must be peaking.

Both of you lose your mind when you see something you like and use the little head to control the wallet.....something that I very, very rarely do 😉

Confirmed, show us at 11 pm. Attended yesterday, bar full for the show. Clocks galore on display in various numbers. Started with scene of simulated or may be even real sex . Can,t say for sure as I was seating in the back.
Big cock show participants did not circulate in the audience in usual feel for the tip routine but grand finale, real thing with two twinks making love and circulating freely , collecting their well deserved tips.
Nothing was simulated there , trust your reporter whose lap was used for part of routine, he, he.

Do BKK, you'll be bored af in CM

CM is certainly worth a visit as touristic place: the old city, the temples and interesting soroundings. For gay pleasures it's a hit and miss. I am in Vinapu camp it's worth the try and visit.

Maybe you talk too much ...might be trying to give you a hint 😉
 

I love the Zing resort 

Friday evening Tawan  bar packed for the show at 10.30.had few, Ok, four, boys sitting with me and one of them noticed that i'm only one of three farangs in audience.
Show included ,ahem, special show ,passive was one of their  twinks  of whom I counted six including original one ,Mas. Again I think it's friendliest bar of them all, BananaClub ,surprisingly perhaps considering fearsome Lucy is mamasaning there  being second.

just go, it's only 1 hr flight, certainly worth day or three. Take massage at Classic House. If you lucky one of their boys may even ask you to buy him a new phone. Happened to me and strangely perhaps I was happy about it, extracting free long time and some commuting in the city