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1) In my vast experience, I never met someone who did oral with condom, be it active or passive.
2) Relatively safe. Every few years, that's about 100 interactions with risk of transmission, I catch something which can only be from oral.
5) The window is set by biology (reproduction of the organism), can't be influenced by location (testing in Europe vs. Thailand) or by throwing money at it. There are Pulse clinic in Silom and Pripta in Chamchuri square which offer all kinds of test, i.a. 14 STD from urine by PCR with results between 1 and 7 days (n.b. this is their processing time, if you want results faster you can pay more; not the time between infection and testing).
6) Not for gays. But stickmanbangkok occasionally writes about blowjob bars with ladies.
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On 7/18/2023 at 6:29 PM, Boy69 said:I can understand your Target rates as an long term expat, the ones who come for short periods like me don't have the patience neither the time to try finding boys for 1000 Bht and make long searching and tedious negotiations with potential boys so obviously we pay the going rates accepted in BKK min.1500 Bht for ST.
Well said. Furthermore, some people like me like the hunt, whereas a friend who lives in Bangkok wants it quick and easy, he doesn't even look further than 2 km away on online dating because arranging travel would be too much hassle/delay.
In Cambodia I did statistics, offering 10 USD I got 50% accepting, for 20 USD I would get 90% accepting.
For Thailand I estimate 1000 THB 50% accepting, 1500 THB 90% accepting.
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Even after years, I sometimes judge wrongly. Unless the profile or the boys says so, I assume he meets me for free for fun.
The money boys I meet get 1000 for short time (which for me is at least 1 hour), I reject everyone asking for more. Still plenty of repeat business or new boys for 1000. Not even a question of distance, some travel from the outskirts to meet me in central Bangkok, all for 1000.
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Gayromeo is still around, but of little use outside Bangkok and Pattaya.
My favorite app is Blued, works everywhere I have been in SEAsia.
Tiktok has no messaging system, but most have their facebook or other social media linked, and that's where I messaged the guy I saw on tiktok. One successfull encounter, out of dozens I have messaged.
I'm not on onlyfans because it costs money to join and I don't want to watch, I want to touch.
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On 7/12/2023 at 7:07 AM, Boy69 said:
1. Most of the boys presents on their websites are good looking models who don't actually work there at all and are just a fake cover to attract potential customers.
2. The pictures of the guys who actually working there are heavily photoshop to artificially make them more attractive then they really are.
3. The description of the guys not always in line with reality and often exaggerated.
4. Many guys working there have very limited or non skills in doing proper massage and only concertrate to manipulate you in 'happy ending' to extract as more money as they can from the clients.
4. Most of the working guys are straight.
5. Most of the masseuses have very limited English or non , it's very difficult to communicate with them.
6. The rates are over priced.
1. not in my experience
2. not in my experience
3. cock sizes exaggerated, no problem for me
4a. indeed, in my experience massage skill from poor to okay
4b. indeed, no issue at all for me
5. indeed, no problem because I speak Thai
6. not at all in my opinion. 400 for 1 hour oil massage and 800 minimum tip (I haven't taken anyone quoting a higher minimum tip) = 1200, an amount I can write off a research expenses. Chances for a good encounter are similar here and in gogo bars or expensive massage places, but there the expense is much higher.
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On 7/12/2023 at 5:48 AM, mixskin said:
I touched his dick ( I hadn't seen/ touched it until then) and was disappointed to see that it was not big as I expected ( he is supposed to be a S56). He also had a big lump on his dick which kind of put me off a bit. Fully hard his dick was about 5" .. 😞.
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I will never go back to 15M .
I would not base my choice of masseur on dick size they show, all exaggerated in my experience, and dick size not that important to me anyway.
I had good, average and poor experiences at those places and for me worth a return.
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A friend likes to be the center of a Bukkake party, and got the pleasure in gay massage places (he just walked in, told them what he has in mind and asked who wants to participate). I guess this is easier to arrange, and you have all day time, and cheaper than in a gogo bar.
You could try your luck in orgies in gay saunas as well. I went to several, mostly just watching and touching and nor participating, and and what you describe can take place there. Just at the cost of the entry, but very limited in time (just one or two days of the week, just one hour) and other circumstances are out of your control.
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Last year, I contacted several equatorial continental Africans on gay online dating, and all of them asked for 3500. I left it at that and didn't negotiate.
About 5 years ago, I met a Madagascan in Pattaya for 1000 and was happy with that encounter.
The highest I ever paid was 2000 for overnight with a boy from Soi Twilight in 2013. After that a few times 1500, but most is 1000 for boys in the scene, and sometimes I get one for 500 who doesn't regularly has contact to foreigners.
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I'm not into kissing.
But a friend is and told me he asks boys "do you kiss" and on their reaction (kissing him or verbal) he can judge.
There is no point in being shy, if you want to kiss, ask the boy!
For me, the interest a boys shows in the bar is a poor indicator. Nowadays I do most of my business online, so I have to go back a long time to find examples. 2011 there was a boy who looked dull on stage, showed no interest in anything or anyone, but was great in my room. No clear memory of the opposite, a boy showing interest in me on stage, but boring in bed, but sure that happens as well.
As for rimming/kissing:
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On 5/7/2023 at 5:16 AM, Olddaddy said:
next visit to Thailand on my bucket list is visit every Bangkok shopping mall toilets to see if I could pick up both free and/or paid sex adventures.
Before Covid, there was low activity in shopping malls toilets. Now I guess it's all gone.
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Many years ago, there was a demonstration in a gay disco in Khon Kaen, where a condom was blown up like a ballon, and burst upon touching it with a finger covered in oil, as if it had been touched by a needle. Now that I make that comparison, maybe they indeed secretly touched it with a needle? Some day I might try myself, blow up a condom and touch it with oil.
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No English (all communication in Thai) and working menial jobs, as far as I can judge. Limited world view (just their neighborhood).
Which does not prevent attitude and unreasonable expectations.
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I have been there several times, and will go again. But beware that far more boys are advertised than are available. On their blog, I spotted several I would be interested in, but have never seen on tap when I was there or even in their daily messages on Line about boys available today. Some people might settle for second choice, but I left a few times the two or three boys I like were not in.
On 6/16/2023 at 6:54 PM, vinapu said:why? what makes you think that it may not work for you even if did not work for reader ?
I freely share my positive and negative experiences with service providers. I believe a negative experience is more reproducible than a positive experience.
And there are some peculiarities that might be of interest to others. E.g. I once had a boy in Winner bar sitting with me who was ticklish. Wouldn't work with me. Fortunately this is very rare (ticklish boys).
At 15M massage I had one boy Mueang with average cock and difficulty to get it up, but excelled in other areas and I would like to meet him again, but he left. Another boy (Nueng with neck tattoo) at 15M massage was big cock and hard after a few strokes, but poor performances otherwise and I wouldn't meet him again.
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21 hours ago, TotallyOz said:Last example, in LA once, I met a Japanese lad from Craig's List and he was not good at all. But, I still gave him more than he asked for. He said he hoped to see me again and I told him he was sexy but the sex was not good so it would be a pass for me. He said, you see me again, and I promise it will be amazing. I did and he was. I saw him weekly for the time I was in LA (over 6 months).
I met a few boys who had great bodies, but poor performance. Some of them I met again, based on body, but performance didn't get better.
I think I never overpaid. There was one guy in Pattaya who was, and still is, great in bed. On first encounter, great body, great performance, my happiness about this find, I gave him 1500 which is the highest I ever paid in Pattaya as far as I remember. He just stuck out in all aspect over everyone else I had met for a long time, I had to give a bonus over the usual 1000 I pay for short time. Other regulars, 1000 for ST, get a bonus of 500 after several encounters.
Digressing, back to propositioning boys on the streets. I found that performance in inverse to effort I put in. I remember two who were quick to come to my room and enjoyable and I met them again. I remember three who I had to approach several times over weeks or months to finally get them to my room, useless in bed and I didn't see them again. Starts with boy reluctant to take off his clothes, "shirt up, pants down" is not my style; I want full nudity (with sexy underwear as foreplay) and my hands and lips all over his body and as much skin contact as possible.
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8 hours ago, vinapu said:
market economy at work, you don't expect stellar performance in bed for 500, do you?
I agree that , say 2000 , in not guarantee it will be much better but chances are higher.
I have no proof, but based on my experience I think if I had paid more, I wouldn't have gotten better performance. In my experience, there is no correlation between remuneration and performance. In hindsight, some cases the boy was disgusted at homosexual activities and just grab as much money as possible, do as little as possible and get out as quick as possible.
Now that others have chimed in, I remember two more cases. In one it was actually a passing guy on a mocy who offered me a ride and then told me what his motives are. Another was working in construction in a temple that I was visiting, we got chatting and exchanged phone numbers and met after work. But none of these are reproducible. Both for free.
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On 6/27/2023 at 4:57 AM, Olddaddy said:
I want to know if any of you have luck meeting guys for sex paid or otherwise in shopping centres, retail stores ,bellboys ,security guards , drivers , etc etc for sex in Thailand!
I tried many times, but mostly no success. Either not interested or unreasonable expectations (e.g. 3000; I would offer 500, these are low-class, no English, all communication in Thai; and the few I got for 500 and eager for repeat show that 500 is enough, everyone who asks for more is just greedy), and the usual problems (poor communication, late, no money for taxi, doesn't know the way).
But it depends a lot on you or me as well. I have a Western friend who doesn't speak Thai, but gets boys easily with google translate and with general chatting and beer. He is more outgoing than I am. And lives in the here and now, no problems with space/time and communication by phone. And he has a wider range (everyone with a cock and a pulse).
"Here and now" is important. All those boys I pursued (I didn't get them first time we met, got their social media, chatted with them, passed their place again to repeat my offer), even if I got them after spending a lot of time and money, poor in bed.
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18 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:
I would not recommend SP's Republica to a newbie, especially if he is extra horny.
Are you a newbie in Brazil? Are you extra horny?
Newbie yes (I spent one week in SP in Sep2020, and one week in Rio). Extra horny no, but extra curious.
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On 4/1/2023 at 6:29 PM, buttercawan said:
Too late to checkout Lagoa but ended up visiting some seedy places in república where I am staying for the next few days.
Where exactly, and what is the best time to go and what is available?
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On 3/27/2023 at 7:24 PM, reader said:
On the contrary. Many of the Saphan Kwai shops post penis size along with photo. I've found them to be consistent with what you encounter in the flesh.
I have found dick sizes in gay online dating and these massage shops exaggerated to the extent of lying. Fortunately, for me there are other aspects more important.
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After various negative experiences myself, and other reported by friend, with Vietnamese money boys in Thailand, I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.
A friend put it: Vietnamese boys ask a lot (of money), but don't do a lot (in bed).
But in Vietnam, the boys from online and in sauna all fine. Visa free 14 days for German passport.
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There is various sightseeing in and around (most you can get elsewhere: temples, mountains, caves), as a pretext and daytime activity for me to go again.
Boy-wise, it went like this: I had a good time with A, so I went again to meet him and do sightseeing.
However, A failed to show up, so I went online and met B and had such a good time, that I went again a few months later to meet B.
However, B failed to show up, so I went online and met C and had such a good time, that I went again a few months later to meet C.
However, neither A nor B nor C were available, so I met D (now a drop in quality, not worth going for D, and anyway Covid put an end).
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Shows/orgies in several gay saunas in Bangkok (R3 group and Krubb Bangkok) end in masturbation and I guess (but didn't pay attention) you can have guys from the show and customers cum on you.
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There are no dedicated boy bars in Nakhon Sawan, but in the usual entertainment venues you might find a gay corner.
There is/was some gay cruising in the park (island on lake), but neither numbers nor what's on offer interesting to me.
However in online dating, Nakhon Sawan has been very productive for me.
General sightseeing as well a lot on offer.
Can we tell massage men that oil breaks condoms?
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It's available at Mahidol travel clinic near Victory Monument in Bangkok. I can recommend them, clearly structured website and cheaper than elsewhere, I did several vaccinations there.