Leaderboard

Did you book a flight to give a 1st report?

What you said above must be true as I heard it many times but still there are people, including our members who like that time in Bangkok so I'm tempted to see who is on the right side of the truth. Sad thing is that most miscreants are foreigners , not locals. Certainly i wouldn't carry passport and phone on the street with me at that time. Hottest month sounds even more scary but i so often say ' go and check for yourself' that part of me is tempted to do what I preach

My source informs me Tawan bar will reopen on (believe it or not) 1st April 🤩

That seems unlikely, if one's to believe the surveillance footage. Putin seems to like to murder people in spectacular, outrageous ways, to leave no doubt that he did it, and will do it again with impunity if he so wishes. Putin likes to murder openly, with the aim to instill fear as much as to silence any vocal opponents.

What fucking civics classes did you ever take, wtf is wrong with you people??? Claiming to be Patriots...far from it my friend. This mess is decades old, or did you only become aware of it when Fox told you about it?? The one Trump only built only 80 miles of and Mexico NEVER paid a dime or peso? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46748492 If Republican's were sooo concerned about senseless deaths, and she was one of them....why has zero been done about guns and mass shootings, clearly a more deadly problem. Have you ever visited another country, have you seen what US past policies and interference has done to Central America? Or do you repeat what Sean Hannity says? Get a fucking life.

that's better as thinking that people go voluntarily for aggressive war beyond their country borders makes me cringe. It's one thing to defend St Petersburg from overwhelming Finnish forces but another to try to take Helsinki by force.

You are lucky. Hottest months, esp. in BKK. Watching Thais wash Buddha statues at this time does not compensate for having to carry all your documents, money and phone in sealed plastic bags, or dodging attempts by drunken tourists to throw water on you after sunset (and often it is ice water). You will be doused with water both with your consent and from behind. They will throw water on you when you are decently dressed, walking down the street to have dinner in a restaurant, when you are talking on the phone, when you are riding in a tuk-tuk. Drunk tourists do not know their limits, and they believe that Songkran is not the time when Buddha statues are washed and relatives and people passing by are blessed with this water, but this is a holiday of water hooliganism and mischief. Once I visited this “holiday”, I will never return to Thailand in April.

In the end, both versions seem to function quite well. Never had a reason to reject one that appeared in good health. Given the average age of members, the next one they come head to head with won't be their first rodeo. They pretty much know how they work. Confidence is high you'll come away satisfied.

Hope its not an april fool joke in the making

If you want a gay guide, the webmaster knows one. I, too, know him, for he was my guide when he was 18-19 gorgeous years of age. He's a professional, personable and a cute early 30s and married to a doctor. He'll more than likely NOT deal with the sauna scene or escort scene but will let you experience the other aspects of this sixth largest city of our world. {I recommended the services of Danilo to a friend of mine a few years back. He was pleased overall.} Occasionally,Danilo is on my FB page. ...much less now than two years ago. If you're interested PM me and I could write to him if you're interested. São Paulo is one hell of a large city. That component is what I did NOT like about it. ...traveled there a few years back (4 or 5 trips). ...enjoyed the culture (very different from Rio de Janeiro.). Explored on my own + I had a gay guide (professional) each time that I visited. Was there once with a friend as well.

Mompóx is one of my favourites, but a long trip by car. Feel free to DM me and I can discuss — have driven down to Mompóx from Cartagena and from Tolú. If you want something different, I suspect you would enjoy Bogotá scene over Medellin simply because Bogotá is in your face while Medellin takes a bit to figure out. Just pack for cooler nights. i have been spending my winters here in Medellin for the past 7 years (here now) so feel free to send me specific questions and I will try to answer quickly.

SO why doesn't Trump and the Republicans want to do anything, anything, anything about it? Joe called it out during the state of the union....he agrees, the border is a mess..... better to sit around and blame Joe, yet don't do anything about it? So the border problem is now in the Hands of the republicans....what you going to do about it??

I can vouch for first two , never been to either Socotra or Yemen's mainland though

and Convent road has own share of street food stands but Patpong 1 is the best option as it has plenty of seating although it fills up

I don't know about others but I still have as much fun in Pattaya now than i had when I visited first in 2013. Use ' all we need is one bar and one boy inside we like " principle and fun is never ending

How many people have been killed by Trumps gun crazy MAGA crew?????????????????? How many innocent people have to die before the republicans do something or even care?

Joe's dementia is killing US cities.... And Joe's policies are killing US citizens: Laken Riley. Killed by a "newcomer" invited into the country by Dementia Joe Biden and his open border policy. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-05-overdose-deaths-years-devastating-toll.html Fentanyl deaths are skyrocketing under Dementia Joe Biden's open border policy Thank you Joe Biden for inviting murderers, drug dealers, sex traffickers, and other criminals across the border. Thank you for instituting catch-and-release. Thank you for ending the Remain-in-Mexico policy. The end of this rampage of allowing illegal migrants to: cross the border, murder innocents, assault police officers, and traffic fentanyl will soon be over.

Well.. then listen CIA director Burns. https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/us-news/2024/03/11/not-funding-ukraine-a-massive-and-historic-mistake-cia-director-warns/

Russia Records First Rise in Murder Rate for 20 Years – Kommersant Granted, 7,628 murdered Russians ain't nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of Russians your genocidal sadist is processing into fertilizer. Not to mention all the men, women, and children of Ukraine who those Russian soldiers kill, torture, and rape before they are processed into fertilizer. You're always welcome in California, @Kostik, if it makes you feel safer. And you won't get beaten up, jailed, or killed for being Gay.

I like jodd fairs. I find that it is one of the newer and cleaner night market. There are plenty of food and shopping options. Just take note that they have 2 locations. The original location is very close to rama 9 mrt station but is more crowded. The new location is slightly further from the nearest bts (ha yaek lat phrao) but I find it more spacious and might be more suitable for you.

Sorry I missed it. I see you can hop on the Gold Line going north from Krung Thon Buri BTS station. Yaowarat Road in Chinatown is fun but might be too intense. I was tipped off to it watching Netflix 1st season of Somebody Feed Phil though of course it’s mentioned in all guides. It’s only a few Metro stops northwest of Si Lom station, then short walk south, so it would be easy to backtrack to Patpong if not to the guests’ liking.

If I understand your question correctly, you are asking where Thai same-sex partners can marry nearest to Thailand. While legal in most of the Western Hemisphere, Europe, and Australia/New Zealand, there is so far only one country in Asia (Taiwan) and one country in Africa (South Africa) which allow same-sex marriage. You can find more information on Wikipedia. My understanding is that in Asia, Japan and Cambodia are the most likely to legalize same-sex marriage next. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage Countries in dark blue have full same-sex marriage on an equivalent basis to gender-divergent marriage: Among those countries which do not require visas for Thai citizens (in green), it looks as though the main choices are Taiwan, South Africa, or various South American countries. If a Thai person were to marry a citizen of one of the dark blue countries above, in most cases he'd be allowed to live there permanently, and eventually become a citizen if he stayed clean of the law. If a Thai person were to marry a citizen of the US, EU, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, he would carry two passports which would be very powerful indeed, since he could visit almost every country without a visa, with the exception of some truly weird ones one would never want to visit anyway, such as Venezuela, Algeria, Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, and the Central African Empire (I mean Republic 😉).

NOTE -- Was Barry K reading Vinapu's mind--or recent post--about Pattaya, and Soi 6 in particular? From Pattaya Mail By Barry Kenyon Stickman Bangkok, the leading bar and club commentator since 1998, claims boldly that Pattaya has shaken off its seedy reputation. In his weekly online article, for March 10, he argues Pattaya is moving rapidly towards diversification and respectability. What was once a playground for middle-aged white men is now very much a family holiday destination. For Stickman, Peak Pattaya was from 1998 to 2010 when the resort had transformed from something of a backwater beach destination to a developed (but not over-developed) resort which managed to maintain the old vibes but with more choices of places to go, shop and sleep. It was still a place dominated by middle-aged white men. Today, Stickman concludes, Pattaya is bland by comparison and not anymore off-beat or risque. Most old timers in Pattaya are going to agree with Stickman who, like Martin Luther at the time of the Reformation, said aloud what lots of people were thinking anyhow. Today’s Pattaya is a concrete jungle, as everyone sees on arrival, and is no longer a bargain for the economy tourist. The sex-dominated districts, such as Soi Six and Soi Buakhao, are fewer in number and probably less fun than they once were. Mobile phones have replaced furtive glances as you pass by. The Walking Street has changed beyond all recognition, more upmarket and with a future likely dominated by Indian dance clubs and bars essentially catering for Asian travellers. Stickman does not mention the gay scene centered on Jomtien Complex and Boyztown – he usually claims his readers wouldn’t be interested – but the changes there are significant too. Pickup bars and gogo joints have largely been superseded by businesses offering entertaining drag shows, which even your grandmother might enjoy, and relaxing venues where social rather than sexual intercourse seems to be the dominant conversation. Still, they are busy most nights. Putting the sex back in Pattaya, as you might say, isn’t an option. The Thai government is currently busy offering visa free travel to the diverse mega-markets of Russia, China and India amongst others. As Thailand’s birth rate continues to decline, largely because of the expense of raising families, young Thais have better options than selling their bodies. Pattaya’s successful MICE market (meetings and conventions etc.), the expanding five-star accommodation options, the much misunderstood Eastern Economic Corridor, the diversification of entertainment facilities catering for families (amongst lots of other factors) all point to a future very different from 15 years ago. Nostalgia for the past, of course, is a privilege of advancing years. Stickman acknowledges that, recalling some of the great characters of the past such as Glitterman who rode a beautifully decorated bicycle around Pattaya, or the guy with the parrot which he even took into the immigration bureau to renew his visa, or the lady who covered herself with tarantulas to shock first time visitors. All gone. Perhaps too sex in Pattaya will wither on the vine. Check out Stickman’s article on https://www.stickmanbangkok.com and decide for yourself. ==================== From Pattaya Mail Parliamentary delegation surveys EEC, highlights U-Tapao Airport’s strategic role A high-profile delegation led by Krumanit Sangpoom, Chairman of the Land Transportation Committee of the House of Representatives, embarked on a comprehensive tour of key infrastructure sites within the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC) on March 10. The deputation, aimed to gain valuable insights, receive briefings, and engage in discussions regarding the development of this vital economic zone in Thailand’s eastern region. The visit, facilitated by members of the committee, encompassed three significant locations integral to the EEC’s development trajectory: Laem Chabang Port, U-Tapao Rayong-Pattaya International Airport in Ban Chang District, Rayong Province, and the Map Ta Phut Industrial Estate Office. Throughout the visit, the delegation actively participated in discussions and exchanged viewpoints with relevant authorities, addressing the progress, challenges, and obstacles encountered in advancing the EEC’s infrastructure and economic landscape. The valuable insights and feedback garnered during the visit, encompassing assessments of existing services, identification of areas for enhancement, and strategies for bolstering capacity, will be presented to the Cabinet for deliberation and subsequent action. The delegation reiterated its unwavering commitment to fostering the development of the EEC, acknowledging its pivotal role in shaping Thailand’s future economic trajectory. Furthermore, the strategic positioning of U-Tapao Rayong-Pattaya International Airport was underscored, highlighting its potential to accommodate a significant share of visitors alongside Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang International Airports in the foreseeable future.

A local friend called my attention to this flight/hotel booking site that specializes in SE Asia destinations. Watched him book flight and was impressed by choices. prices and speed of transaction. https://www.traveloka.com/en-en

watching him read from a teleprompter is so painful.....but even worse when he goes off script, no wonder the drugs were out of control at his white house. Going to be funny when he loses AGAIN to senile, sleepy Joe....or how Fox news calls him now "Jacked up Joe", they're pretty good at marketing, even for their opponents, lmao

when I look at my pictures from 1999 or even 2006 I looked much better too

And it's time to learn this skill will be useful in the future! Maybe then you managed to see what the article of КомерсантЪ newspaper is about. In the meantime, you have only US propaganda.

Oh! How well you were brought up by the false American propaganda. As soon as you see the truth about the US situation, about how US residents turn into fertilizers, unable to think, you immediately remember Putin The USA is a stronghold of lies, propaganda, censorship! The USA is a sponsor of terrorism and genocide all over the world! And, of course, the owners in the USA (those who decide which puppet dictator you "choose" for yourself during a circus show every 4 years) do not want to be blamed for this. They have come up with an "enemy" for you and advertise it as much as possible through the media

I know, but we have had a couple of unexplained deaths of Russian dissidents in the UK. One found dead in New Malden, in the next road to friends of mine. Very little publicity about it.

You may be correct. It's been available for me for free since 2017, for belonging to the risk population category Runaway Homo Slut.

Come on, @Kostik. You can do better than that. What with all the genocide Russia is causing, and the hundreds of thousands of Russians Vlad is processing into fertilizer, you mass murderers know more than anyone about murder. All Dementia Joe can do is say murders are down by about 2000 a year in the US. That ain't nuthin compared to Vlad's Glorious Genocide. 'It is historic': US poised to see record drop in yearly homicides despite public concern over crime The year is expected to end with over 2,000 fewer murders than in 2022. Homicides in U.S. set to drop by record numbers this year I suck at math. But let me give this a try. In the US, we have 2,000 fewer murders a year under Biden's leadership. In Russia, we have maybe 200,000 more Russians being processed into fertilizer under Vlad's leadership. Personally, I'm figuring when Vlad orders them to go on offense, which he will, that's maybe 500,000 more Russians processed into fertilizer. Since the common sense rule in Ukraine now is that when you try to advance, or even move, a drone or a gun sees you and kills you. It worked well for Russia on defense. But it still means you had a lot of Russians processed into fertilizer. It will work less well when Russians have to advance through Ukraine's defenses. But it is good for cows, and grass. Obviously this explains why everyone is trying to get into Russia, and no one is trying to get into the US.

Yeah i have a lot of friends from Colombia, mostly from Medellin, some from Bogota, & a couple suggested Tayrona but I think its too far for this trip since we'll mostly be based out of ctg and not bq, & frankly i dont feel motivated enough haha. The beaches look beautiful, & that sounds hot, but I can find plenty of beach action in the summer in new england

the flight isnt booked, just a cancel-able hotel. Id appreciate any insights, as I just wrote in another reply im thinking of flying us to Bogota instead and adding an extra night, because it seems early in the week will be quiet in Quilla, but also to get to see a different side of Colombia outside the caribbean. But im open to all possibilities, if youre willing to share

You might get some ideas from this YouTube vlog. Night markets for food and shopping. https://youtu.be/ZITJZ-TJirY?feature=shared

In my experience, they show no concern at all. This is Japan, and they are doing a job! I have used these services for many years, and always had good service. Not many biys speak English, but, as you will have seen, you order the services you want from a 'shopping list', ant the items are usually faithfully delivered. If you go to a bar, King of College, for example, the manager usually speaks some English, and has a menu you can peruse! More top boys than bottom, usually, they say Western cocks are sometimes too big!

Re-reading original post, sounds like trip to Baranquilla is set already. Happy to share some notes on the nightlife scene there. It is a large city so there is a thriving scene to be certain.

In Cartagena, you have to remember that this is really three cities -- the old Walled city and next-door Getsemani, the Hotels along the water in Bocagrande and the suburban outpost of El Castillo, and the main city of Cartagena proper (including the Manga neighbourhood). You want to spend time in the Walled City, walk around and soak in the ambience. Grab a drink at Cafe del Mar and watch the sun set. Visit Gabriel Garcia Marquez's former home. Have lunch by the pool at the Santa Clara hotel (a former monastery). Explore the graffiti covered streets of Getsemani and walk under the hanging umbrellas that protect you from the sun. As others have pointed out, the beaches along Bocagrande are not great. The best beach is in El Castillo next to the Hilton hotel. It is a public beach so feel free to set up there. Otherwise, you can grab a day charter from Muelle de la Bodegita where dozens of companies will sell you packages for day trips to Cholón (over priced but popular), Playa Blanca and Barú. There are tons of shops, restaurants and smaller bars in Bocagrande-El Castillo, which becomes very lively in the evening. You are definitely going to want to go out at least once. There are dozens of rooftop bars/clubs in the walled city. The best known are Alquímico, Tsunami, and Ajeno. The scene at Donde Fidel (on the street across from the Hard Rock) is fun and you will get different entertainment looking for tips. As far as Baranquilla goes, it is not well developed for tourism. It actually came into existence because of its location on the Magdelana river so it has extensive history and interesting culture. Unless you are very comfortable with the language and know some locals, there is little to see and do outside of Carnaval each year. The suggestions to explore Tayrona and Santa Marta are good ones since both are relatively close. You may also want to just spend more time exploring the many sites around Cartagena such as El Tutumo (mud volcano -- fun half day outing), see the flamingos at the Avario nacional de Barú, swim with photoplankton at night in Barú, learn about AfroColombian culture with a day trip to San Basilio del Palenque, or tour the mangroves outside Cartagena. There are many other options to see - do so I encourage you to keep exploring the many possibilities for your trip here. Enjoy your time in Colombia.

What?

I thought , in circumstances, my time will be better used by not engaging in any further exchange

I wrote here that he was Brazilian quality good sex the 1st time, 2nd night so so, then more downhill from there.....I have a feeling I might be a little more work than you, but that's just a guess, lol

Day 25 I like guys who are not rushing things and won’t go until I let them and he sensed it very well. We kind of overslept so breakfast was out of question , I gave him some money to buy himself something , I packed my few things and went to Jomtien bus station where I had 11.30 bus booked yesterday. When booking I had choice of 11.30 or 14.00. All buses in between were already filled up. With enough time to eat something I grabbed coffee and a sandwich in small place at the station. There was some rain mid way to Bangkok. In Silom first I went to Foodland for lunch greeted by few smiles of staff as I was away for almost week. Room at Bann Silom was ready , I got the same I had last week. Not long after I had guest. N , my occasional visitor not from the scene messaged me this morning that he is free in the afternoon and can come. That is way we operate- he lets me know when he is free (or short of cash or both) and I tell him yes or no. No fuss from either side. We had good , even quite romantic time till 7.30 , broken with KFC treats he ordered on his way. In the evening after he left I went for a stroll poking my head here and there , stopped at Hot Male for a drink, then went to Moonlight where I was surprised how few clients graced an audience. Brave models and floor boys still presented themselves to very few of us , only just before show crowd thickened a bit but not more than half of seats were filled. At times I had impression there were more waiters than spectators. Hope situation improves as all in that is my favorite bar at the moment. I was hoping Y will be there but he did not show up or was already taken so I settled for so called second best AP whom I had already before in hard covid times. Long time no problem as he remembered me well , even hotel where we met but quoted me way more than I was willing to pay so bit firm price reduction was demanded by me before we settled on terms, lol I think in passing that scarcity of customers may have something to do with tips expected. We went to Happy Beer Garden for a dinner and pleasant conversation before we went to hotel for our reunion

It was great to see you again Vinapu and to catch up after 1 year. Firstly, I loved those urinal photos that you took from Phuket. That is very original. I guess the only things that can watch you piss are the bats and birds ? Since you shared with us you offing sexy ARM - I can share that I offed 2 small guys that looked almost like brothers - but one was Thai and the other Cambodian (? was that correct Vinapu ?) - anyway they lived kind of near each other where only the Thai/Cambodian border separated them but they met in Pattaya in the go-go bar scene and then became good friends. I used the usual technique - call down the first guy and see if he is cool with the second guy - which the mamsans confirmed and were elated that Vinapu and myself - we offed 3 of their best looking guys within 30 minutes ? Were mine good ? Yes, we got the deed done in bed but only after I fed them as they were both starving and we made a food stall stop on the way to my place. Then after everybody's respective orgasms - they showered and left - unlike Vinapu - I love to sleep alone - as I find it difficult to sleep with one eye open. And remember Vinapu - I want to join you one time in BKK - because since I retired here in Jomtien since September 2022, I have only been in BKK (other than the airport) 1 single time - and it was for shopping. So, I need a Vinapu training course regarding the delights of BKK and the guys..... But I am not complaining - as Pattaya and Jomtien keep my hands busy....

If this is the same Arm, which I'm sure it is.....things start out amazingly for sex and quickly downhill afterwards, hooks you in to think every night will be amazing, then blah. Was my experience anyway.....I still say hi when I see him, but if other options are available.....which there usually are, I let him "have his life" , lol

Day 22 I woke up at 7 as at 8 I was supposed to join the tour and wanted to eat some breakfast. I found some restaurant already opened on the main street and had quite opulent breakfast for 200. Returned to hotel only to find out that van is already waiting . Since I had my day pack with me I did not even go to my room but got into van to find insider already family of 5 , all my compatriots. It turned out that only other family of 4 is joining us and one stop, few more minutes later we were on the way to the pier. But schedule is schedule so all that fast pick up meant only longer waiting for boat departure. Fortunately there were some snacks , coffee and tea available for free and beer for purchase for 60 baht so waiting was spent nicely. Main goal for me was James Bond Island with famous and photogenic rock but first stop was rock with bat cave . We went there on kayaks and yes , bats were there and stench was so intensive that few people almost threw out. Than another stop at some picturesque mid-sea rocks with another sea kayak round. On the way to James Bond Island we were served lunch and it was filling and tasty. Throughout the cruise some drinks were free and beer was available for purchase. Surprisingly perhaps majority of ship passengers were from Middle East with very strong Omani contingent and it was interested to see cultural differences as some of their ladies were covered had to toe plus face but there were few who were dressed I no more than dental floss sized bathing costumes. Even more interesting , both groups interacted freely and obviously friendly. It must be Thai air dissolving prejudices. On James Bond Island we were given some free time , island is very small but there are numerous nooks and crannies to explore plus several souvenir stall to browse. There are toilet facilities and men’s urinals are truly ones with the view. After ;leaving island there were brief stop for sea swimming by some lonely rock and as sun started to go down we returned to the illustrious shore. By time we were delivered to Patong it was dark. Cruise was truly enjoyable and highlight not only of Phuket part but whole trip. And I had beaten my cousin to the Bond’s rock , seeing which is long dream of his. Life is fair, he dis not see rock, I did not see even one Bond movie. In hotel I refreshed myself and went to have some dinner ( you know what I had ) and ordered taxi to airport for tomorrow at the same kiosk I bought both of my tours.700 baht which seemed price posted in few other places as well. At 10 pm I went to ZAG welcomed by waiter of my adoration yesterday but today because it was much more crowded then yesterday he was much busier to keep me company. Not that I needed it as soon as I gulped my beer I went to Grinder and saw Z, hero of one of my pre-covid trip whom I met in Jomtien and took with me for few days to Bangkok. In covid time he disappeared from the scene and now , unmistakably it was him. Wasted no time to send him a message and basically whole evening and night I was checking if he responded to no avail. At 11 as yesterday we were invited inside where I tipped 100 baht one of their models. As soon as he left scene he came to me and wasted no time to exchange Line as well as extract few drinks from me. We were supposed to meet in my hotel lobby after club closes . I left solving puzzle what happens if Z also responds to time it will actually happen. Shortly before club closed at 2 am I went to lobby and till 3 nether Z responded nor my new Cambodian friend did show up. So I gave up , made stroll through deserted Paradise sois, checked Grindr and Line for messages again to find nothing and went to bed but not before smartly setting alarm clock at 10.am. Not particularly successful night but I was not disappointed nor upset , just tired.

With just two full days and three nights spent there I wouldn't put much weight on what I say on the subject of Phuket. I'm glad I went there, not being much of a sun and sand person did not partake in beach activities at all but beaches seemed nice and water clear and wet enough. Definitely scenery on island is impressive as always where mountains are meeting the sea. Another reason I'm glad I went is I like to see new places. Definitely it' was very tourists infested, much more than Pattaya in my opinion. I don't mind that as I did not encounter any problems with fellow travellers but my forum friend who said ' at times you will forget you are in Thailand " was on something. Some Thais and farangs were complaining abut dominant Russian presence but as everywhere else I never had any problems with Russian tourists other than visible reluctance to talk to strangers, even talking to them in their language. But that I noticed in other places , including where I live. It seems that those tourist hordes are driving prices up. I mentioned 80 baht banana pancake on main street , I saw another one in side soi for 50 , still more than everywhere else. Prices of tours seem to be inflated but from why I overheard it's very easy to bargain it down, sometimes discount is just given. Island tour priced at 1400 I got for 900 before I even asked, on another hand cruise to Bond island ( still to be written about ) I got for list price of 1800 but family of 5 who was on the same tour got it for 1450 a head - volume discount perhaps ? Smart bus from the airport seems great idea as it takes us everywhere for 100 but taxi to airport was still costly at 700 and it's only 30 kms from Patong , roughly Silom -Swampy distance. As for the gay scene everything is close in few sois of Paradise Complex. My two massage experiences were less than thrilling ( too greedy , another too speedy ) but it's only statistic sample of two so perhaps I had bad luck. ZAG club was both nights packed, I had fun but again did not get lucky hooking up with somebody, not for lack of trying , mind you. It seems boys there are skilled in extracting drinks from customers but perhaps I was not attractive enough to get that 'wink, wink , where's your hotel? are you travelling alone? " paradise leading questions. I did not try that new club CRUISE and I'm spitting at myself in the mirror when shaving every morning for good reason. After I left I learned that they had grand opening celebrations at time when I was there and one of guests was Arthur Rangsit , one of my favorite Thai porn actors. Stupid people never had it easy I guess. Nicest thing about Phuket was that airfare out of Bangkok was extremely affordable, sadly it can't be said about flying from Phuket to Utapao (Pattaya ) but I guess volume is not there. Hotel and restaurant prices were I'd say in line, perhaps bit higher but again , my sample is too small. All in all I think for what I need I like Pattaya better but if opportunity comes I can easily envision visiting Phuket , specially Patong with it's gay scene , again. It probably would be nice to rent a car or boy with a car and have sightseeing done at my own pace as opposite to tour rhythm.

Day 21. Morning air and view was quite crisp. Being good friend I went to the lobby to say goodbyes to my friend whose car was already waiting then returned to my room to pack little I have since I won’t be returning there after the tour. My van arrived at 10.00 as promised but it took more than hour to collect all other participants from 6 or 7 hotels. That is one of reasons I’m not big fan of this type of tours but my time at Phuket was short so decided to do some shortcuts. Hiring car with driver would be more expensive but also more time efficient. As usual it was blend of tourist sights – Big Buddha, Wat Chalom and Phuket Old Town and commercial part – honey farm, cashews farm and jewelry shop plus two animal tormenting sites _ Tiger camp and elephant camp. Big Buddha is impressive site with beautiful view but was very crowded, Wat Chalom newish but very colorful and old town the same like Buddha Hill , colorful but crowded. I did not bother with neither tiger nor elephant concentration camps , I don’t like this type of entertainment even if I’m not animal lover I don’t support enslaving and drugging them for somebody’s entertainment. From commercial part I like some offerings at cashews farm- they sold cashews in several different flavors, I found truffle one particularly tasty but not exactly cheap. All in , I still enjoyed tour as it gave me some idea how Phuket looks like. Since I’m changing hotels I alighted in Patong’s center and walked to Paradise Complex where my hotel The Corner is located. Looked as newly built or renovated place intended to work as budget version of Royal Paradise Hotel , towels even bear that hotel signature. I can recommend place as location is perfect , on the , you guessed it, corner of soi where ZAG and new CRUISE gay clubs are located. Aquarious hotel and sauna and massage spas are all within 100 meters or less. Paradise Complex main soi, The Corner is where those green planters are Cruise club across the soi from my hotel, The Corner ZAH club Royal Paradise Hotel is truly landmark, picture taken from door of The Corner As budget place had some , how to say , simplifications? No elevator, no kettle and no safety box but otherwise everything was perfect, AC was working , bed was comfortable and definitely I would stay there again. After setting in I went to eat something, bought cruise to James Bond Island for tomorrow and stroll soi where M to M massage shops are located where I spotted nice looking muscular guy so enrolled him for massage. For some reason he was in rush to finish session , in about ½ he we were done , massage , afters and stamp collection . Second massage in Phuket and second not so special . Too bad as guy was good looking , muscular, exactly of type I like and if he took better care about business I was ready to invite him for private sessions of length of his choice. After dark I went to ZAG for few drinks and watch the show outside. Had fun as on eof their waiters was kind of cruising me and I was cruising him, you know , drink here, wandering hand there. After 11 all were invited to move inside where show continued on the stage broken from time to time with models parade. show at ZAG I tipped two of them red notes and as soon as they finished their part they came to my table to thank me , I offered them drinks so more discreet and not so discreet touches but at end of day or rather night nothing materialized . Thay had other adorates as well , waiter was pretending to be busy so at 2 am I went to hotel alone. Bit excited decided still to do some walking and went to Bangla Road, Patong’s main strip and I was shocked indeed to see how busy at that late time it was , imagine Siam BTS station at rush hour. It was probably 3 when I returned to the room to catch few hours of sleep.

I do take a notes on every trip , not only Thai ones and I do it at least once a day , In Thailand in the afternoon before hitting bars, often also in the morning , after breakfast. Yes , I also keep forgetting things. On another hand not everything from my notes is transferred to trip reports and hope that is understood

and here from central zone of Kamphaeng Phet includin "lion of Kampheang Phet" below

Few more:

@floridarob Just a word of thanks for the tip Nok Laundry. Their service was excellent. In fact, when I asked the lady what time I should come back the next day to pick up my clothes (I sent them in at about 11am) she said to come back at 6pm. today. I did, and they were ready. Note: they close at 7pm. I have now included Nok Laundry in my new map of Pattaya 's gay area: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2023/12/14/map-of-pattayaland-area-december-2023/