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    • We went inside Dreamboy just minutes before the show started. I don't remember much about the show. I was in the arms of Music Guy throughout the 2 hours we were there. I saw some Vietnamese guys whom l knew and tipped them. I also saw a number of familiar faces - but these were the customers and not the Dreamboys staff - and it finally dawned on me! I saw them a few hours ago (and naked) at 1/0 sauna! At close to Midnight, forum member and I said goodbye. I went back to Airbnb holding Music Guy's hand and we made delightful music for remainder of the night.
    • Over dinner at Foodland, forum member and I decided tonight we will go to Dreamboy to watch the show. Once we had decided on Dreamboy, I sent a message to Music Guy, the Viet guy at Dreamboy whom I like. I wanted to know if he worked tonight. Yes, he replied. He was in fact on his way to bar. I invited him to eat with forum member and me. Foodland is a quiet place to chat and catch up. Still an hour before the show starts at Dreamboy. We ended up at Midnight for drinks and I had a chance to play checkers against checkers champion. I lost the first game and in fact I got thrashed. I handed over 100 baht. Second game was a tense affair and it ended with equal number of pieces which meant at best a draw but the main fact was that checkers champion had no chance of winning. He sportingly removed his T-shirt, revealing his muscular chest and arms. Music Guy was amused to see this scene. He pretended to be sad and lifted his own T-shirt to signal that he didn't have impressive muscles as checkers champion. I gave him a hug and kissed him on the cheek. "Anh yêu em," I said to him and he smiled. "Anh yêu em" means "I love you" in Vietnamese. ❤️
    • I would add that successful bars tend to have gross profits at about the 60 - 70% level. They would also have net profits at about the 10 - 15% level. Which was why the term "profit margin" and the figure of 30% seemed so odd. The mention of moving to Soi Twilight was another odd thing, although @zombie spoke of it as rumours. There is no more Soi Twilight to move to; hasn't been for 6 or 7 years.
    • A few things about that cited Facebook post in the OP struck me: average monthly turnover of 2.5 to 4 million baht, with "estimated profit margin of over 30%". Firstly, why estimated? Shouldn't there be a precise figure from last audited accounts? Anyway, taking it at face value, the profit -- and this is another issue: what exactly do they mean by "profit margin"? -- would be about one million baht per month. Something tells me "profit margin" may be "gross profit" or "gross margin", to use more specific terminology. This would be earnings before operating costs. Suppose instead the sellers mean an EBITDA of 30%, yet the asking price is only 4 million baht, giving a sort of P/E ratio of 0.33 which is very low indeed. However, this offer may be because they really, really, need a "fast sale". Either the current owners' "other projects outside hospitality" are desperately in need of cash injection or the bar is facing a huge problem in the months ahead and the present owners do not want to be around for that. If the latter, it would be consistent with rumours of lease termination or non-renewal in the very near future. The cost of having to find a new location and outfitting it, with no assurance that customers will stay loyal after a move, may be the very prospect the current owners wish to avoid.  
    • After leaving 1/0 sauna, I had a walk around Silom Road and Surawong Road. Side Bar had closed and was replaced by Hookup BKK bar. Only the bar on the second floor is open. Instead of functional chairs and tables, there are now lush black sofas. Drinks at 69 baht promotion (get the 69 reference? Lol!) They are in midst of converting 3rd and 4th floors into a sauna. Ambitious plan by new owners. They probably sense a market for a new type of hybrid bar instead of traditional gogo bar. One example is Bootcamp on Silom Road which has seen long queues to go in. I had a quick look. There was one customer. I didn't order a drink as I wanted to have my first drink of the night elsewhere. When I passed by the large 7 Eleven store on Surawong Road, I was greeted by the famous Dreamboy welcome man. He was there to grab something to eat before reporting for work. I reached into my bag and happily handed over a packet of cigarettes to him. Then I passed the outdoor foodstalls outside the Pink Panther lady bar and I saw two Viet guys who work at Good Boy bar. They were having dinner. I said hello. I will go to their bar one of these nights. I was supposed to meet forum member for dinner at Foodland but I was early so I popped into Rainbow Dragon to find last night's Myanmar waiter. I ordered a beer and bought him a drink. We chatted. He remembered some of the German and Chinese words and phrases that forum member and I taught him. Today I taught him more Chinese words and phrases. Time passed quickly when in the company of such an inqusitive young man. At 9pm, I had to leave for dinner. "Tomorrow I come again and teach you more Chinese words."
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