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Great experience yesterday. Arrived from Sydney Australia at 4.30pm, through immigration immediately and waited 10 mins for bag. In the car within 20 mins of getting off the plane. Then 40 mins to Crowne Plaza. So just over an hour which I was very pleased with.

I'll stop in Cancun for couple of nights on my way back home from Brazil next week....I always stay downtown. I haven't been to the bars much lately, because is usually twinky guys looking for other young guys and I learned awhile ago that nothing good happens after midnight, like in the movie Gremlins. There are some hustlers looking on Grindr and also https://mx.mileroticos.com/escorts-gay/quintana-roo/cancun/ Some guys are asking 1500-2000 pesos, like 75-100 usd, which is pricy for Mexico, but the tourists and Mexicans with money pay it. I generally like to be in the 600-800 peso range and guys that charge my rate are usually more humble. The 2 bars downtown are 11:11 & "Laser Hot Bar beer & queer" My advice is beware of your wallet, expert pickpockets....don't drink alcohol, stick with beer, the alcohol is usually pirated (not original) and you won't feel very good the next day....other than that, you'll be fine at the bars as long as you know the exchange rate and know how to count. I always ask the price of anything before I order and I try to pay as I go along, don't run a tab. You'll like the cenotes and chitzen....Mexico is a fun place, Cancun has beautiful beaches and there is a public bus that takes you downtown to the hotel zone for like 12 pesos each way. Restaurants, the only one I try to make it to when I'm there is Patravali Indian, is pretty good and there is no good Indian where I live. Maybe, Taqueria el poblano since you're downtown, there are 2, I usually bring my tricks to the smaller one, on Tulipanes the waiters know I'm a whore and take good care of us, but the food is better at the bigger one on Tulum...both are good for people watching. The hotel zone has all types of food at Miami prices. Taxi's work on flat fees, some are honest and will tell you the correct price right away, others take advantage of tourists and give stupid prices....if it seems expensive, walk away and stop a different taxi. What hotel are you staying in, there's a lot of shit hotels downtown....🤔

Ha ha all of that - and just from you reading one sentence, wow ! You're obviously a little bit unhinged it seems, that explains your various posts to date at least I guess. Have a nice day 🙂

It appears the Night Market is open tonight.

Someone named gayinpattaya defending the venomously anti-gay Putin is ironic, to say the least. They are, after all, the very western corruption that he rails against. This rather makes me question the quality of judgment involved. Certainly, the "you've done bad things, so everybody can do bad things" logic is ludicrous. It's the logical equivalent of saying that since Cain killed Abel, murder has been an unpunishable crime, because well, Cain killed somebody so you can't judge any other murderer.

My opinions are just that: mine, and mine alone; opinions (rather than facts) enjoying 1st amendment protection. On my first evening in Pattaya, I met bkkmfj2648 (henceforth B) for dinner: me - Pattaya newbie, he - local resident; therefore my treat. It turned out much better than my expected guidance meeting, because we really hit it off. B is a GREAT guy; was VERY patient with my too many questions; and since there was chemistry - we spent a LOT of touristic time together during my week there. Thanks again, B! After dinner we still had time before the Boyz3 show at 22:30, so we headed to Sunee. First stop - Nice Boys. We were the only customers. 12 scrawny boys quickly scrambled to the stage, dressed in undies. They stood there, no dancing, most busy with their phones, a few wanking covered dicks. I dont like twinks. I'm also a size queen. I came to P despite knowing that the majority of the boys wldnt fit my bill. I was however hoping to see in NB at least one or two more to my taste. Alas no. Anyway, after a couple of minutes B and I chose together the guy with the most potential, had him sit between us, and took turns at caressing his body and wanking him. He was busy with straight porn vids on his phone. His dick didnt rise to the occasion, so B gave him a 200 tip and off we went. In Winner there were 2 boys 0 cstmrs, so we doubled back just in time for the Boyz3 show. BTW Someone mentioned here the street leading to Sunee from BT as being dangerous, due to Arabs racing motorbikes. Saw nothing of that. The 8 mnts walk is standard and safe (and thus sooo dfrnt from Latin America).

I have Yellow Fever vaccination document, so I don’t recall the ins and outs of whether mixing and matching Colombia & Brazil necessitates such. I don’t think so, but you cannot enter some countries without YF vaxx after having been in one or the other, or both. For example, Panama which is a common connection for SoAmer.

I’ll chime in and suggest Brazil, as a punter having travelled to both, and this winter will be a few months splitting the two. Easier access in Brazil to the types to hire you like, as our tastes overlap somewhat. There’s essentially only one provider sauna in Colombia (St Moritz in Bogotá) analogous to the several on tap in Brazil, and the few curated private massage spa venues that don’t have overlapping club/food features in Brazil will also yield more of your type. Brazil does not have a strip club with private dances, whereas Bogotá has Gigolo Erotic House right above St Moritz. A month in Brazil can fly quickly by particularly if you do more than one city. The problem will possibly be never visiting Colombia as FOMO may take over when considering subsequent bypassing of Brazil. Later today, I’ll try to provide some examples of Brazil tantrica massage spa team images to see if I have interpreted your tastes accurately. They exist in the public domain. In contrast, photos of sauna garotos de programa are discouraged. You will also find escort sites through your searches here.

Thank you very much for your help. I agree that Brazil is more suited for first timers visiting S America looking for fun with men. I will certainly look through the travel reports posted on the forum. I plan to travel late February/ early March.

The bar chick in shenanigans Irish put told me today the market is definitely reopening !

Another thing to keep in mind is that all of the buildings and roads comprising Patpong (1, 2 and the connecting alleys) are on privately owned land. Finding sufficient vendors to rent space on Patpong 1 could be holding up the re-opening. Since the market is dismantled every evening and reassembled the following afternoon, and the display stands stored in a garage off of Patpong 2, the logistical expenses are huge.

Thanks for all the very useful info there which I'll certainly take note of. The hustlers I guess I'll have to pass on this time as I've been reminded by my BF that we're going away for a "normal" holiday together and NOT one of my whoring trips you know ! - "apparently !" 😞 lol But the bars I will check out for sure. And as you say yes I'll try and watch the wallet and all that stuff too 😞 Actually once I started reading up with so many people saying the same thing I started instantly regretting my choice of even going near Mexico as no matter what i was reading it was all just negative and about scams, robberies, staff with bad attitudes and crap but expensive accommodation, but I'll give it a whirl and just hope it's more a case of bad reviews from the type of people who like to leave bad reviews on Tripadvisor and the like rather than it "actually" being the case - hopefully. We're staying fairly central on Av Tulum 4, which if I've did my homework correctly looks reasonably central to downtown and the bars etc and hopefully shouldn't be "terrible". But I do get what you mean re some of the hotels being crap. From the pics you think hmmm maybe, not to bad, and then you read the reviews and OMG do the people who own the hotels not read them, nor care !? Is there just THAT much business in Cancun they just dont have to give a shit perhaps about the condition of their places or what seemingly genuine issues multiple people had raised, as that's certainly what comes across time and time and time when reading multiple different hotel review site for hotels there. As I mentioned I think Bali / Thailand etc has just spoiled me in terms of value for money and pleasant ( on the face of it at least) service. And I'm with you on the Miami prices along the hotel zone, I couldn't believe my eyes some of the hotel and tour prices etc for the dates we were travelling - and they weren't even THAT exceptional in terms of some of the hotels either. I'm more surprised that Americans, who usually expect and demand a reasonably high standard of service and pricing still all seem to flock to Cancun, there's obviously some golden nugget of fun there that I'm missing so far, but we'll see I guess. I'm trying to go with an open mind ( not that you'd think that from reading my above lol) and as always a trip is just what you make it so Im sure it'll be just fine ( after I leave my three spare credit cards and second wallet in my hotel safe in case I'm robbed when out at night that is just in case perhaps ! lol)

He reminds me of some of the men I saw in Buenos Aires. A guy working at an airline counter at the airport in Buenos Aires was the most beautiful man I've ever seen based purely on facial features. Looked like your guy in the video, but with incredible blue eyes, maybe slightly darker skin and more defined cheek bones. Ten years ago and I still remember him. Can't remember what the counter person looked like for a flight I took last week. I'm not sure the blue eyes were legit, are there contacts that will do that. If they were natural, then wow did he ever luck out on genetics. He gave me my boarding pass and I didn't want to leave.

My Pattaya reports are aimed at newbies by a newbie (third time in Thailand, first time in P), so please read and react with that spirit in mind. I decided to offer them thematically rather than chronologically, bcs I think it's more useful for searching info. The hotels: I botched my hotel reservations. Won't bore u with the humiliating story, but it explains why I m able to comment about a number of hotels. Spent 1st night at Avani - $100. The resort justifies the rate; great brkfst buffet. Cmfrtbl 6 mnts walk to Boyz Town. Then moved to Jomtien's Agate. Even though I had been following the forum and researching ahead, I was surprised at how compact the whole gay complex is. The 4 most mentioned hotels are literally within two minutes walk from each other. I had a 1 night rsrvation for Agate, followed by 5 nights at East Suites. However, when I crossed the street to check into the latter, per my reminder of an in-advance request for a quiet room not facing the street, I was told there is no such room (available?). The manager was VERY nice about it; took me to the room; and offered to cancel the rsrvation if I prefer to go elsewhere. I went to check out the others and decided to return to Agate. Their rates for a standard room: Zinq 900 East 1400 Poseidon 1600 Agate 1900 (half Avani's rate). East and Poseidon r small, no more than 12 rooms. Zinq and Agate have scores of them. I liked the way Poseidon looked. The nice Getman manager said the windows have triple noise isolation. Cldnt offer availability; I think I'll try it out next time. I didnt like the way Zinq looked; the open spaced terraced way to the rooms reminded me of a prison. Agate is quite satisfactory. I like the spacious room; brkfst buffet is ok for 200 baht; welcoming attitude and service.

Well … this one? Copenhagen. However, not the chocolate shop chain in Brazil, Kopenhagen. But speaking of newbies in candy shops, you are asking very general questions that have elusive answers. Handsome fit young men are a dime a dozen anywhere, but not priced like that. First things first: are your aspirations hiring or scoring? You have managed to evade attempts at queries about expectations. There is a huge difference and we get tired of second- guessing what advice would be helpful.

Maybe permit is still not ready. But should be up soon for Christmas!

This was taken by a friend about midnight Monday. Unfortunately the night market's promised re-opening didn't occur.

yp11 - AA does have what you asked about - there are about 5 show boys who do individual performances on stage and then circulate amongst customers to gather tips. I am aware of 4 ex New My Way boys - 1 works at AA and does the show - another works at Route 181 Host Bar which is within walking distance of AA in Chang Phuak - another works at Monkey ToysClub Host Bar which is also in Chang Phuak - the 4th boy I have seen working at Circle Pub and AA but he has not been at either in recent times All the venues mentioned have sites on Facebook.

"Woke police"? Someone's been reading too much Daily Mail and believes everything they are told. 🤣

With so many massage shops in the area, you have a much higher probability of finding good time in the vicinity of 1500-2000 baht, tip included. No drinks to buy, no attitude to deal with are there are plenty of eager guys who want your business. And for an extra 500 or so to the house, they'll do outcalls. What's not to like?

Go live in Russia and post under the same user name but change it to Russia and see how that goes for you there and then come back and talk to us perhaps eh....

Mexico has really good food, Colombia has hot guys, Argentina has fantastic steaks and Brazil has hot guys. They all have nice beaches except Argentina I guess. Those are my impressions, though I haven't quite been to Colombia yet... have an air ticket for this winter, fingers crossed I get there. As the others have said what do you want the most. I'm a 100 percent passive guy, for me Brazil has been by far the best place in the world in for masculine tops. I want to go to Buenos Aires at least one more time for the steaks and the hot waiters. I saw an American woman fall instantly in love when the waiter came to her table. Mexico has a fantastic culture, people will start singing anywhere and beautiful colours everywhere.

Need more info to give an opinion, likes, touristy things or just being a ho.....etc....

I'll also believe it when the present demonstrations have subsided. Let's remember the Revolutionary Guard still exists. They are equally hated and basically do as they wish. My heart goes out to most Iranians who for the most part are a lovely, kind, cultured people with an extraordinary history. I can understand why they loathed the corrupt Shah and his murderous Savak Secret Police killing machine and thus welcomed Khomeini with open arms. But like all dictators, as my Iranian guides told me four years ago the present leader and his cronies pocket vast sums of money and have every incentive to do everything possible to stay in power.

Hi, I am hoping to visit Latin America early next year and am trying to plan a travel itinerary. For a month's time visit should I visit more than one country or more? I have in mind a visit to Mexico and Colombia vs going to Brazil and Argentine. Would appreciate any tips and pointers Thank you!

A few Sampa massage spa examples, mostly a bit younger and smaller than my preference but cute for sure. Older and bigger guys can be viewed. For me, younger smaller guys must have the face; physique models all ages or older gym-built guys: really handsome a bonus but not critical. Steroidal acne a turn off. Below images from InHouse Agencia, Gold Therapy, and XtudioLotus. Grand Spazio Masculino not depicted. #3 = #9 (photo chronology gremlins). Provider turnover (inventory, not necessarily position) is rapid. I have only been to InHouse. Secure settings, whereas escort sites have plentiful options but more AYOR.

I believe the Arabs come in their high summer to escape the heat in the Middle East. Hopefully they have gone home for now.

I would love to know the no doubt weird and wonderful reason for that daily build and strip routine. I've always assumed it was either as there's some law that prevents there being a permanent market there unless approved by the authorities / Palace etc OR that the landlords perhaps rent the land to the market owners on the condition that they get the contract to provide all the kit and the manpower labour to build and strip it all every day of the year and THAT is how they're making the REAL money from the deal. As when you consider that the strip can be going on well until the early hours of the morning sometimes, with the build then starting to happen sometimes well before lunch time again on the same day with only a few hours gap in between there must surely be SOME reason behind it happening like that as it makes zero sense otherwise, even when factoring in the whole TIT thing !?

prison with the poll ? that's something ! on top of Jomtien Complex hotels mentioned in report there's The Venue. apparently Agate rates are much lower when one books through the their own website , not booking sites , I was told by one of our members

not in Sochi in summer...

Brazil and Colombia are best bet, least expensive options....they exist in Mexico also, but might be from other countries....including Venezuela but come with a higher price tag since they are not in their natural habitat 😉

I recommend going to massage shops where there are more ladies than men. You ask for a male massuer and he will probably give you a sensual but non-sexual massage.

I agree with all your points regarding Jupiter guys. Definitely cheaper to get massage guy but you can't see massage guys in briefs in advance. Unless you already are having massage by the guy and you see and know him well enough to invite him again for outcall.

This may be what a few of you are looking for. Click on the topic attached below and scroll up/down to relevant posts including from davet. I think I added one or more. Parenthetically, I ‘sexcursioned’ to São Paulo for a repeat months later with the same InHouse escort. Additional months later he currently no longer works these spas. He told me that he gets BRL125 of the 250, but only because I inquired. Therefore, what he provided my first time last winter was extremely generous. He offered to meet off-site the follow-up visit but it was just more convenient to release the 125 part that the venue takes rather than arrange the assignation at my one-night accommodations. And it turns out he could get an additional booking there shortly following our appointment though I cannot imagine he had much jizz left. There are also other posts about these places within other topics if you bother to use the search function. AFAIK there have not been similar venues discussed here, located in Rio, where full sex is on the table, on or off the table. I have not come across any explicitly advertised in searches either, including scanning followers and followed within the social media of the Sampa establishments. Spa H Rio and Solaryon offer tantrica, both on the main commercial drag in Copacabana. Something beyond happy ending? … not sure. You’d have to drill down more about others such as searching ‘tantrica massagem (pl: massagens) spa masculina Rio de Janeiro’.

Well in Pattaya, here’s how the signal works. After about twenty minutes the masseuse will have you flip over onto your back. He’ll be kneeling over your midsection. Tap on his left knee one time with your index finger , signaling to him to chuck wow you. Tap twice and it means mutual chuck wow. If you want him to smoke you, tap his right knee once, and twice to signal mutual smoke. They get annoyed if you get the taps mixed up, so make sure you do it right the first time! If you want him to top you, thrust your mid section quickly into his crotch area. Do this twice if you want to top him. For cuddling, just rotate into the fetal position and clasp your hands together under your head. He’ll get the message. He will get the message that maybe you’re ting tong and end the session. Obviously I’m joking, just do as others have advised. It will come naturally.

It is standard for to be charged for the time that a host or hostess spends with you in Thai-style host bars or karaokes. The charge will either be on an hourly or half-hourly basis, depending on the policy in each venue. The going rate in most Saphan Kwai hostess bars is about 200 baht per half-hour, per girl that you invite over to sit with you. Not sure how that compares with what you had to pay at Hi Club, but I assume that it was somewhere along the same lines.

Although the below is a UK website the products on there are now being sold widely globally it seems and I've noticed that girls here ARE now starting to use the glass cover sticker ( or variations of those) around various nighttime venues now. While the stickers and the like are perhaps a bit much for the average guy to be seen using stlill the drink testing strips could well be a useful addition to a gay mans "travel kit" if you're having visitors back to your room or feel there's something not quite right in a bar you're in ! Sad what the world seems to be becoming eh 😞 https://www.drinksafe.uk

I agree cutting a customer short on the clock is a big no non-no. Forget the "you come, I go" philosophy. You and the shop agree in advance on the time and you have every right to expect the contract will be fulfilled. Some shops will place a clock in the room. When I'm with a guy I haven't used before, I call his attention to the time we begin the massage. If there's no clock, I just show him time on cell phone so we both have the same understanding. As I've observed before, I've been very lucky with my massage experiences on the last few trips. As I get older my expectations have evolved. The most important aspect of a satisfactory massage--beyond good technique--is the sensuality of the experience and the personalty of the masseur. My bottom line is now very simple: did I have fun?

While I realise that it's more of a straight white US citizens tourist trap than any genuine Mexican trip experience, it seems that for a variety of reasons ( of which I am still unaware it seems) my BF has decided that he and I are visiting Cancun for Christmas and New years from the 21st Dec to the 5th Jan for or Christmas break this year ( i.e me having to ensure an actual normal holiday rather than my going off to whore about somewhere with multiple cute guys in abundance 😞 ). So, just wondering does anyone have any tips or suggestions as to where we might go while there bar wise (straight or gay) etc? We're actually staying in Cancun City rather than at the hotel zone ( mainly due to the eye watering prices of the beach hotels over our dates!). We're already booked on several of the usual tourist trap type trips such as swimming in the Cenotes and visiting Chichen Itza etc, so it's more as to if anyone has any recommendations for nice restaurants or good (safe) fun gay bars perhaps ? After reading several reviews for a few gay bars there most were enough for me to think to give them a wide berth due to excessive overcharging / ripping off of tourists and then operating blatant scams and even carrying out some assaults on tourists around the City area, but perhaps they were just random bad reviews for what are ok bars, I dont know. The one thing I am getting so far though is Cancun hmmmm Pattaya / Bangkok it most defintely is NOT thats for sure ! So, any tips or suggestions ( aside from WTF are you thinking even going there to what to me from youtube videos at least is American holidayers straight hell ( which is how I'm seeing it just now) will be gratefully received.

I think you need to decide if you want to visit "Latin" areas of North America, or South America. Secondly, what are your Spanish-language communication skills? As floridarob commented, what are your interests, goals for the trip, expectations?

This demonstrates that having the courage to protest against prejudice and injustice can succeed in making a difference even in countries with repressive regimes. I am in awe of the courage and sacrifice of those Iranians who made this happen. From Chanel News Asia protester holds a portrait of Mahsa Amini during a demonstration in support of Amini, a young Iranian woman who died after being arrested in Tehran by the Islamic Republic's morality police, on Istiklal avenue in Istanbul on Sep 20, 2022. (Photo: AFP/Ozan Kose) TEHRAN: Iran has scrapped its morality police after more than two months of protests triggered by the arrest of Mahsa Amini for allegedly violating the country's strict female dress code, local media said Sunday (Dec 4). Women-led protests, labelled "riots" by the authorities, have swept Iran since the 22-year-old Iranian of Kurdish origin died on September 16, three days after her arrest by the morality police in Tehran. "Morality police have nothing to do with the judiciary" and have been abolished, Attorney General Mohammad Jafar Montazeri was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency. His comment came at a religious conference where he responded to a participant who asked "why the morality police were being shut down", the report said. The morality police - known formally as the Gasht-e Ershad or "Guidance Patrol" - were established under hardline president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to "spread the culture of modesty and hijab", the mandatory female head covering. The units began patrols in 2006. The announcement of their abolition came a day after Montazeri said that "both parliament and the judiciary are working (on the issue)" of whether the law requiring women to cover their heads needs to be changed. President Ebrahim Raisi said in televised comments Saturday that Iran's republican and Islamic foundations were constitutionally entrenched "but there are methods of implementing the constitution that can be flexible". https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/protest-hit-iran-abolishes-morality-police-death-mahsa-amini-3121191

Hmmm, believe it when they are actually disbanded rather than renamed. I hope it's correct.

Calm down and don't post when drunk.....you had been behaving and talking like an adult.....boy problems and you need a drama outlet?

No point in interacting with people who aren't arguing in good faith. Whataboutery (look it up) is the key word here.

my apologies if you feel offended, I have no idea how tall you are so it looks unintentionally I picked up wrong example of fairy tale to believe. I'm genuinely sorry indeed. Otherwise, for the record, I still believe you were wrong calling Peter what you called him and patently wrong by being Putin's apologist and being loud about it. George W perhaps was not any better but you can say that without fear of reprisal which clearly is not a case about saying anything bad about Putin in Russia. Yes, for us in the West is easy to be brave and thanks God and our politicians for that.

PeterRS is able to defend himself but your comment is offensive. Force yourself to be nice , otherwise don't waste any opportunity to be silent As for believing in Putin's terminology I wonder if you still believe in Santa Claus not to mention Sleeping Beauty and her 7 dwarfs, one of them , third from the left mind you, was named gayinpattaya I believe.

You can walk into almost any gay massage parlor and ask for exactly what you described above. Or you could walk in, say you'd like an oil massage, play dumb about any extras and see how far the therapist will go. Think of it as an adventure. There used to be a massage place in front of Pinnacle Lumpinee, for years a favorite hotel among gay tourists. A friend from New York who was with a straight female friend once asked the hotel receptionist to recommend a massage shop that both he and she could enjoy. Basically they wanted a place with no hanky-panky, although probably neither would say no to some fun. Anyway, the receptionist recommended the place right in front of the hotel. They entered, ordered hourlong massages and were put into adjoining — um, what are they? Rooms separated by thin curtains? — well, you get the idea. My friend must have been giving off gay vibes because unbeknownst to him he was assigned a gay therapist, but also an actual masseur, someone with skill. The therapist, I guess sensing he was in the company of another gay man, decided to see if he could arouse his customer with strokes that kept getting closer and closure to my friend's anus, eliciting louder and louder moans with each stroke until a thumb started brushing up against the anus. And then ever so slightly inside. Eventually the therapist asked my friend to turn over. He did, and the masseur repeated the same procedure — long strokes not quite to the crotch but getting closer with every stroke until he was gently caressing my friends balls with his finger tips, but for only a split second before starting the down stroke. My friend said he couldn't contain himself, letting out a stream of moans that gave voice to his pleasure. All along, his female friend on the other side of the curtain was completely silent. Eventually my friend shot a load without even having his erection touched. This was 2004 and to this day he still says it was the best massage of his life. And the biggest load he has ever shot. But he's probably had more fun relating this story than he did during the sensual massage. He first told his female friend who immediately after leaving the shop asked, “Oh my god, what was all that moaning about?” The female friend couldn't believe all that had gone down — or maybe up — just a few feet from her without her realizing it. They had, after all, asked for a no hanky-panky shop.

All of my comments go to direct quotes you've made. They follow the rail you started traveling in the OP. Your intent was to make a wholly unsubstantiated claim that most masseurs were older and/or chubby. But you cite no evidence or experience whatsoever to support it.

Gents, even if you are convinced Olddaddy is a troll, I hope posts on this board will not digress into personal attacks. I have always been opposed to personal attacks. Let Trump be the personal attacker - I hope nobody here wants to take a lesson from him. Your decision of course, but in my opinion personal attacks demean a board. There are many ways to get rid of trolls without resorting to those tactics.

And if you like Kpop these guys have really been pushing boundaries in a very gay-positive way despite Korean conservatism